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by Belial
Fri Aug 25, 2017 3:53 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Let's talk about race, 2017 edition
Replies: 177
Views: 21968

Re: Let's talk about race, 2017 edition

You live in a far different world than I do. Any number of things are scarce by any definition you want to impose. It all depends on how much money and education you have and where you live. What you seem to really mean is they aren't scarce for you. I mean they objectively aren't scarce on a globa...
by Belial
Thu Aug 24, 2017 5:20 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Let's talk about race, 2017 edition
Replies: 177
Views: 21968

Re: Let's talk about race, 2017 edition

Okay, A) we have more resources than we need on nearly every front, the idea that we can't possibly feed, house, and otherwise accommodate these "ridiculously high birthrate" refugees is just handwringing and covers up the real fear of becoming a minority in an ostensibly Democratic govern...
by Belial
Tue Aug 22, 2017 4:50 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 6174
Views: 461894

Re: Trump presidency

I'm having difficulty confirming this but if true, it's great.

The only one I can find info on is the Syracuse rally, which is off.

Edit: well, Breitbart is whining about it so....
by Belial
Thu Aug 17, 2017 10:29 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 6174
Views: 461894

Re: Trump presidency

Something tells me that if Trump wins in 2020, we're going to have to do more than tolerate this, and the number of years becomes wildly unpredictable.
by Belial
Thu Aug 17, 2017 10:14 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 6174
Views: 461894

Re: Trump presidency

why can't Nazis beat the crap out of me because they "know" they are right? They can, and they do. Yeah, I guess I'm confused about why you're under the impression that they're waiting for us to give them permission. It's their entire ideology! They are always already into that! It's kind...
by Belial
Thu Aug 17, 2017 9:26 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 6174
Views: 461894

Re: Trump presidency

Which we care about why?
by Belial
Thu Aug 17, 2017 5:50 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 6174
Views: 461894

Re: Trump presidency

Why does anyone, ever, think I'm making a legal argument? Of course our government isn't interested in legally allowing effective resistance to white supremacy, it only got *kindof* good at *pretending* to be covert in its own white supremacy a few decades ago. So of course most ways of effectively ...
by Belial
Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:31 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 6174
Views: 461894

Re: Trump presidency

Mr Nancy (Compé Anansi) saying "angry is good. Angry gets shit done."
by Belial
Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:23 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 6174
Views: 461894

Re: Trump presidency

Anyway, yes, what about the alt-left Actually, Belial, what really strikes me (no pun intended) about that link is how the necessary and noble violence of some protesters in defense of themselves and others bears absolutely no resemblance to the kind of punch-a-Nazi-simply-because-Nazis-are-inheren...
by Belial
Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:17 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 6174
Views: 461894

Re: Trump presidency

Ask a Nazi what their ideology is, and why they follow it. We're just on the wrong side of that. So "no" then. I've heard Nazi rhetoric, from nazis both historical and contemporary, at length. It is eliminationist, an actual genuine threat of violence. You refuse to actually disagree on t...
by Belial
Thu Aug 17, 2017 3:15 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 6174
Views: 461894

Re: Trump presidency

Would you like to genuinely propose the existence of a version of Nazi ideology that isn't eliminationist, ucim? Not a threat to way of life, but a threat to life ? Do you genuinely believe in such and are you willing to assert it? We're all standing behind our actual beliefs here, so let's talk abo...
by Belial
Thu Aug 17, 2017 2:11 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 6174
Views: 461894

Re: Trump presidency

by Belial
Thu Aug 17, 2017 1:07 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 6174
Views: 461894

Re: Null=Empty Suit President

Like, morriswalters, you're arguing with quite a few white or white passing people who aren't afraid of being mistaken for nazis because we don't go around acting like nazis. Do you get why your "think how scared my poor white self must be" is maybe not an argument that lands? Yeah, I get...
by Belial
Thu Aug 17, 2017 12:52 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 6174
Views: 461894

Re: Trump presidency

"Some people see...." is not an argument. It's meaningless. Some people think the moon landing was faked. Some people think their bodies are infested with alien fibers. We don't waste time worrying about either because they're wrong and also ridiculous and because no one here actually hold...
by Belial
Wed Aug 16, 2017 10:51 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 6174
Views: 461894

Re: Trump presidency

I'm actually convinced this is a third of why rightwing edgelords and protonazis get so upset about "virtue signaling". It makes it harder for them to hide among the general sea of white people. The other two thirds of the aversion are, for those playing along at home: 1) they think all wh...
by Belial
Wed Aug 16, 2017 10:45 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 6174
Views: 461894

Re: Trump presidency

Like, morriswalters, you're arguing with quite a few white or white passing people who aren't afraid of being mistaken for nazis because we don't go around acting like nazis. Do you get why your "think how scared my poor white self must be" is maybe not an argument that lands?
by Belial
Wed Aug 16, 2017 10:42 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 6174
Views: 461894

Re: Trump presidency

When you're hiding weapons caches and outgunning the national guard you're not a protest group, you're an insurgency . An insurgency still "testing the waters", but an insurgency all the same. You know, you certainly represent what the alt right would like to do. If that door were actuall...
by Belial
Wed Aug 16, 2017 10:35 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 6174
Views: 461894

Re: Trump presidency

I mean according to the daily Stormer Heather Heyer started it by being fat and childless so maybe we have to give credence to oh god I can't continue this sarcasm fuck these people
by Belial
Wed Aug 16, 2017 10:23 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 6174
Views: 461894

Re: Trump presidency

You are giving antifa way too much credit. They have a track record of initiating violence at right wing events.


And gods bless them, every one. But we have records of *this* event.
by Belial
Wed Aug 16, 2017 10:14 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 6174
Views: 461894

Re: Trump presidency

Great, does that mean you take back this comment? Are you Natraj? And if not, were you personally at the protest? If Natraj has a problem with my post, I'd like to hear it from them. As stated earlier, I'll take the opinions of people at the event more seriously. My intention in pointing this out w...
by Belial
Wed Aug 16, 2017 10:08 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 6174
Views: 461894

Re: Trump presidency

From a moralistic point of view, you have to keep this in mind. If you are on the right, you have to remember that the right was the side that literally drew blood. For the President to then come out and try to make this an "all sides" issue when a woman is literally dead and 19 others ha...
by Belial
Wed Aug 16, 2017 9:58 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 6174
Views: 461894

Re: Trump presidency

Natraj was.
by Belial
Wed Aug 16, 2017 9:56 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 6174
Views: 461894

Re: Trump presidency

Which piece of caught-on-video Nazi violence is fake news? The mainstream media has been glossing over the actions of their opposition. People on both sides came out for a fight, but the media only want to concentrate on the violence coming from one side, tacitly absolving the likes of antifa for t...
by Belial
Wed Aug 16, 2017 9:47 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 6174
Views: 461894

Re: Trump presidency

"White nationalism" is a weasel term. It's inherently eliminationalist and it relies for camouflage on you not thinking too hard about it and assuming they haven't either. There has never been a "<nation> for <ethnic group> only!" movement that didn't come down to, in practice, v...
by Belial
Wed Aug 16, 2017 9:35 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 6174
Views: 461894

Re: Trump presidency

Maybe decide whether you're speaking as yourself or as some sort of meta-narrative *before* you start talking instead of dodging to whichever one will allow you to scold the left.
by Belial
Wed Aug 16, 2017 9:23 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 6174
Views: 461894

Re: Trump presidency

"If a governor is wrong about a weapons cache, beating a black man into a concussion with sticks in a parking lot on video becomes fine"
by Belial
Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:34 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 6174
Views: 461894

Re: Trump presidency

When you're hiding weapons caches and outgunning the national guard you're not a protest group, you're an insurgency . An insurgency still "testing the waters", but an insurgency all the same. ... and what are you when this insurgency has the backing of the leader of the country? Jose Bro...
by Belial
Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:30 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 6174
Views: 461894

Re: Trump presidency

No but seriously quit comparing minority religions to genocidal ideologies
by Belial
Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:14 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 6174
Views: 461894

Re: Trump presidency

Again. Ideologies aren't blank tokens.
by Belial
Wed Aug 16, 2017 7:57 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 6174
Views: 461894

Re: Trump presidency

In case you hadn't noticed the government is also riddled with nazis so people aren't talking about law they're talking about morality.

Punching nazis is still assault. It's just good, good assault
by Belial
Wed Aug 16, 2017 7:51 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 6174
Views: 461894

Re: Trump presidency

Also hey everybody should read this
by Belial
Wed Aug 16, 2017 7:41 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 6174
Views: 461894

Re: Trump presidency

It seems to me a very small step from 'punching' someone who says they are a nazi (because the original nazis practiced genocide) to punching someone who says other things you find offensive, harmful, triggering, deplorable, politically incorrect, socially unacceptable, or in other ways upsetting. ...
by Belial
Wed Aug 16, 2017 7:27 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 6174
Views: 461894

Re: Trump presidency

Even the historical nazis knew that openly calling for genocide doesn't fly until you've already put people in camps. You just talk about how you're going to magically move all the undesirable ethnicities out of your land somehow and then once you've sold that, you take another step to killing them....
by Belial
Wed Aug 16, 2017 7:20 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 6174
Views: 461894

Re: Trump presidency

But that's not what a lot of people were talking about in this topic. People seem to be talking about offensively taking on the next Neo-Nazi rally. And I don't think that's quite the same thing. If you're willing to stop them when they're on the move toward targets, at some point you have to be wi...
by Belial
Wed Aug 16, 2017 7:07 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 6174
Views: 461894

Re: Trump presidency

I disavow anything that led to folks getting hurt This is the man who organized the rally, the closest thing to the "head" of the rally last Saturday. I know you want to paint all of these people with a broad brush and stereotype them for the violence, but that's simply not the facts. He ...
by Belial
Wed Aug 16, 2017 6:59 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 6174
Views: 461894

Re: Trump presidency

I do find it strange that driving vehicles into crowds apparently isn't harmful enough to the nazi side to counteract nazis being punched by anti-nazis. Yeah... do you know about Abdul Razak Ali Artan? We do not blame the actions of a few on the entire group. There are violent Muslims in the world....
by Belial
Wed Aug 16, 2017 6:51 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 6174
Views: 461894

Re: Trump presidency

It's almost like ideologies aren't just meaningless interchangeable rhetorical tokens and the content of them matters.
by Belial
Wed Aug 16, 2017 6:47 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 6174
Views: 461894

Re: Trump presidency

Hey you know what nazis do when no one's there to stop them using force (aka punching)? Fucking pogroms. The Charlottesville crowd attacked a prayer meeting and later they marched on a predominantly black neighborhood. It's probably safe to assume, given all the beatings and sticks, that they weren'...
by Belial
Mon Apr 24, 2017 5:03 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 6174
Views: 461894

Re: Trump presidency

Hahah yeah it's definitely the diversity that's killing marvel comics and not their recent love affair with Nazi propaganda. Marvel Comics: actually in our universe the nazis won world war II and the universe where they didn't is just an implausible fantasy willed into being by cowardly losers who c...
by Belial
Thu Apr 13, 2017 3:26 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Breaking Up the United States
Replies: 174
Views: 34623

Re: Breaking Up the United States

The relative merits of segregation are not a relevant digression. Also, evil. Back to the topic.

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