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by Wodashin
Tue May 22, 2012 12:33 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Why is sexism universal?
Replies: 265
Views: 46037

Re: Why is sexism universal?

Men Having Sex = Praiseworthy! Women Having Sex = Shameful! I'm sort of pointing at comments like this, Panonadin. So, you know, things pointed out as universal truths are kind of like saying they're universal truths. Or not, maybe "equals" means something different than it did yesterday,...
by Wodashin
Mon May 21, 2012 9:20 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Why is sexism universal?
Replies: 265
Views: 46037

Re: Why is sexism universal?

In what world do you have to live in where you think men who sleep with tons of women are praised by everyone ? Or that women who have sex are shunned by everyone? The kinds of men who sleep with tons of women are also the types to look up to those types. These people live in a vacuum. They also ten...
by Wodashin
Thu May 17, 2012 3:45 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: What makes Royal families Royal?
Replies: 90
Views: 18423

Re: What makes Royal families Royal?

Oh gee, I definitely don't see anything wrong with the state creating new legislation simply to say that property is now owned by them, and not the current holders, without any legal reasoning to do so other than "we don't like these people. Their ancestors from hundreds/thousands of years ago ...
by Wodashin
Thu May 17, 2012 2:05 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Your clothes were asking for it: Now in mens!
Replies: 623
Views: 122112

Re: Your clothes were asking for it: Now in mens!

Well, there were wounds on the back of Zimmerman's head, supposedly from it being bashed against the curb, from what I've heard. If Martin were over him, and Zimmerman perhaps kicked him away or pushed him, then shot him, I'd think that'd cover the range well enough. However, that's conjecture at be...
by Wodashin
Wed May 16, 2012 10:37 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: What makes Royal families Royal?
Replies: 90
Views: 18423

Re: What makes Royal families Royal?

I think that's a great oversimplification of the politics of it all, and seems like more of a "royalty that became royalty when royalty was a thing" rather than pre-regal societies becoming ones with a concept for ruling families over large swaths of land, and not just a single tribe and t...
by Wodashin
Wed May 16, 2012 8:49 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Why is sexism universal?
Replies: 265
Views: 46037

Re: Why is sexism universal?

I didn't know "report news" was such a high standard as to be fantastic. And, in a third world country where men are shamed for things like being abused, you wouldn't think they'd report on the abuse of men as being a serious problem. And if they did, you wouldn't think they'd sensationali...
by Wodashin
Wed May 16, 2012 8:21 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Why is sexism universal?
Replies: 265
Views: 46037

Re: Why is sexism universal?

Mm. Still, you'd think the Kenyan news would be representative of their own problems. That study isn't one I posted, I don't think. I posted videos and articles about the problem.
by Wodashin
Wed May 16, 2012 6:10 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Your clothes were asking for it: Now in mens!
Replies: 623
Views: 122112

Re: Your clothes were asking for it: Now in mens!

Yes, it's speculative, but I don't think it's too out-there to revise and say that Trayvon would be less likely to be killed. It's a sad thing, but Trayvon had everything going against him. Young, black, in a hoodie, and not from around the area. Most young, black, hoodie-wearing kids who weren't fr...
by Wodashin
Wed May 16, 2012 5:56 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Your clothes were asking for it: Now in mens!
Replies: 623
Views: 122112

Re: Your clothes were asking for it: Now in mens!

Specifically, in that area, they were associated with crime. I'm sory if you don't like that fact. There were a rash of break-ins and robberies. All of them by people in hoodies. Ergo, people in that neighborhood will be scared of young men in hoodies, and suspect them of crime. You have to realize ...
by Wodashin
Wed May 16, 2012 5:43 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Why is sexism universal?
Replies: 265
Views: 46037

Re: Why is sexism universal?

"insults, disrespect, scoulding" Nothing bad going on here. I mean, it's not like people look down on men insulting, scolding, and disrespecting their wives, or see that as abuse. And as for cleaning utensils and whatnot, Kenya obviously has a different culture. I wouldn't be surprised if ...
by Wodashin
Wed May 16, 2012 5:18 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Your clothes were asking for it: Now in mens!
Replies: 623
Views: 122112

Re: Your clothes were asking for it: Now in mens!

I haven't read the rest of this thread, but from what we now know about the Zimmerman case, it's safe to say that Trayvon would still be alive if he weren't wearing a hoodie. http://news.yahoo.com/george-zimmerman-prelude-shooting-194235114.html There had been a rash of break-ins and robberies in th...
by Wodashin
Wed May 16, 2012 5:01 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Why is sexism universal?
Replies: 265
Views: 46037

Re: Why is sexism universal?

Mhm. The url is obviously a joke in bad taste. It would be like taking a bruised up woman's picture and going "Domestic Stair Victim". This man suffered intense abuse, as have many others. This is why they are protesting meals cooked at home, to instead congregate with other men and discus...
by Wodashin
Wed May 16, 2012 4:02 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Why is sexism universal?
Replies: 265
Views: 46037

Re: Why is sexism universal?

I'm sorry I was tricked. I googled "Kenyan domestic abuse men" or something like that, and that was one of the pictures used in a news report, I believed it was legitimate. However, I suppose I've been duped, and that news station was duped, and/or purposefully deceitful. So, I guess I'm u...
by Wodashin
Wed May 16, 2012 3:20 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: What makes Royal families Royal?
Replies: 90
Views: 18423

Re: What makes Royal families Royal?

People back then would have to ask themselves, and the royals would ask themselves as well, why are these guys in charge? Well, it's their lineage! What's so special about their lineage that they're ruling? How did their family make their way to the top? It seems so impossible that they couldn't hav...
by Wodashin
Tue May 15, 2012 10:50 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Why is sexism universal?
Replies: 265
Views: 46037

Re: Why is sexism universal?

How is that sexist? Female spiders eat their male sexual partners. Male seahorses give birth. This doesn't reflect on human nature at all. I feel like when you, and many people really, say sexism, they mean "sexism against women". As if they're interchangeable, and as if biology is inheren...
by Wodashin
Tue May 15, 2012 9:47 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Why is sexism universal?
Replies: 265
Views: 46037

Re: Why is sexism universal?

It wasn't a husband on wife, it was just general "man" and "woman", in the case of that one thing I mentioned I saw once in a domestic abuse campaign ad thing. And I doubt it was a study. Queen Elizabeth matters how? If we want, I can say "Boudica" now, and then you can...
by Wodashin
Tue May 15, 2012 8:21 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Why is sexism universal?
Replies: 265
Views: 46037

Re: Why is sexism universal?

And what happens when artificial uterus technology becomes available, then?
by Wodashin
Tue May 15, 2012 4:45 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Why is sexism universal?
Replies: 265
Views: 46037

Re: Why is sexism universal?

Yes, it would be nice if Table 1 could be broken down by sex, but not because any of the other numbers are less reliable without it. Since none of the numbers in the last column are twice the numbers in the third column, there must be people who don't self-identify as domestically abused who noneth...
by Wodashin
Tue May 15, 2012 3:46 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Why is sexism universal?
Replies: 265
Views: 46037

Re: Why is sexism universal?

Well, I'd just like to have all the exact statistics actually charted out so we can actually, well, see the statistics. I'd really just think that section would be null without the actual data. I guess what we can deduce it what had been stated before. Women are more likely to reveal or report, and ...
by Wodashin
Tue May 15, 2012 2:51 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Why is sexism universal?
Replies: 265
Views: 46037

Re: Why is sexism universal?

I would have to hunt around for the data, but from what I've seen in studies, female/female relationships see more abuse than male/male relationships. This could be for many reasons. As stated before, women are far more likely to report their abuse than men, so this could easily play into it. I'm no...
by Wodashin
Mon May 14, 2012 8:26 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: What makes Royal families Royal?
Replies: 90
Views: 18423

Re: What makes Royal families Royal?

Generations of rule. Certain families had ancestors long dead who had somehow made their way to the top of the human hierarchy. Power is, in many/most cultures, hereditary. Nothing makes them inherently special as a person, really. Save for the inbreeding, I guess. The thing is the long lines of who...
by Wodashin
Mon May 14, 2012 6:01 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Why is sexism universal?
Replies: 265
Views: 46037

Re: Why is sexism universal?

However, that's a separate issue from the question of whether there is a stronger tendency toward violence among males. There is . It's one of the differences between the sexes... Let us ask, what are the traits of people most likely to commit violence and crime? More often in poverty. More often h...
by Wodashin
Mon May 14, 2012 2:56 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Why is sexism universal?
Replies: 265
Views: 46037

Re: Why is sexism universal?

Jestingrabbit, I pointed out the mat already. Overall, abuse sees general parity. Severe injury is twenty percent total. Twice as many women get severely abused. As stated earlier, domestic violence shelters do not reflect this.
by Wodashin
Mon May 14, 2012 1:15 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Why is sexism universal?
Replies: 265
Views: 46037

Re: Why is sexism universal?

and raped women are almost always treated with sympathy. This is nonsense . Women who are raped are often labeled as sluts or as "asking for it". Emphasis mine. I'm getting defensive, which is hurting me and throwing off the main point, which is and always has been jestingrabbit's asserti...
by Wodashin
Mon May 14, 2012 11:30 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Why is sexism universal?
Replies: 265
Views: 46037

Re: Why is sexism universal?

The burden of proof for "most women are thought of as sluts" is on the one making the assertion. It's not some undeniable fact of life, and you have an incredibly cynical view of people in the West, then. I do not pretend to think women in some parts of the world are thought of as sluts if...
by Wodashin
Mon May 14, 2012 2:17 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Why is sexism universal?
Replies: 265
Views: 46037

Re: Why is sexism universal?

This seems less like "thinking women are sluts", and more like "not caring about poor people". Your assertion is that we take the rape of women very seriously. Now you're saying that our indifference toward poverty--and it isn't just poverty, by the the way, ethnicity and other ...
by Wodashin
Mon May 14, 2012 2:09 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Why is sexism universal?
Replies: 265
Views: 46037

Re: Why is sexism universal?

This seems less like "thinking women are sluts", and more like "not caring about poor people". E: Also, in terms of pay, the wage gap is a myth. It has been refuted countless times [ http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505125_162-28246928/the-gender-pay-gap-is-a-complete-myth/ ]. The pay...
by Wodashin
Mon May 14, 2012 1:14 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Why is sexism universal?
Replies: 265
Views: 46037

Re: Why is sexism universal?

By placating, I meant that I assumed that people would take what I said as sexist if I didn't throw that in their. Really, I don't think we can measure who has it worse off, and it's beside the point. I really do think both genders have it bad. That's bad enough. Jestingrabbit stated women have had ...
by Wodashin
Mon May 14, 2012 12:12 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Why is sexism universal?
Replies: 265
Views: 46037

Re: Why is sexism universal?

Your posts come off as highly condescending and hostile, so I infer that you have opposing viewpoints, as jestingrabbit's posts have not come under such, at times, ridiculous scrutiny. Maybe I'm just paranoid and feel attacked because I usually do get attacked for saying anything about men's issues,...
by Wodashin
Sun May 13, 2012 11:42 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Why is sexism universal?
Replies: 265
Views: 46037

Re: Why is sexism universal?

Jestingrabbit's assertion was that rape victims were often called sluts. I rebutted by using common sense. Throughout this whole thing, I've been saying nothing but "This is a problem men have. However, women also have problems, obviously, but we already know that, because we always focus on th...
by Wodashin
Sun May 13, 2012 7:45 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Why is sexism universal?
Replies: 265
Views: 46037

Re: Why is sexism universal?

Men get abused just as often as women, about, but they're men, so we shouldn't really have domestic abuse shelters for them. In fact, the fact that we disallow boys over the age of 12/13 (can't remember) to get shelter at these shelters benefits them by teaching them an important life lesson about t...
by Wodashin
Sat May 12, 2012 6:39 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Why is sexism universal?
Replies: 265
Views: 46037

Re: Why is sexism universal?

and raped women are almost always treated with sympathy. Anonymity in rape cases is lifted for the accused, so even the aquitted have their lives ruined by false accusations. We take rape so seriously we suspend justice for the accused. This is nonsense. Women who are raped are often labeled as slu...
by Wodashin
Sat May 12, 2012 2:57 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Why is sexism universal?
Replies: 265
Views: 46037

Re: Why is sexism universal?

There are also no cultures that say women should just give up life and go kill other women on the whim of the state. This is sort of the point I'm getting at here. That you're focusing on these things like they're special. Yes, life for women in the third-world is utter crap. It's horrifying, and te...
by Wodashin
Thu May 10, 2012 8:34 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Did the same pervasive sense of doom exist 30 years ago?
Replies: 76
Views: 14495

Re: Did the same pervasive sense of doom exist 30 years ago?

<offtopic> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debate_over_the_atomic_bombings_of_Hiroshima_and_Nagasaki#Militarily_unnecessary The 1946 United States Strategic Bombing Survey, written by Paul Nitze, concluded that the atomic bombs had been unnecessary to the winning of the war. </offtopic> keyword: winni...
by Wodashin
Thu May 10, 2012 8:09 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Why is sexism universal?
Replies: 265
Views: 46037

Re: Why is sexism universal?

http://www.therainbowtimesmass.com/2012/02/03/cdc-survey-shatters-gender-myths-reports-1-in-4-men-are-victims-of-domestic-violence/ http://www.cdc.gov/ViolencePrevention/pdf/NISVS_Report2010-a.pdf As for the rape, I don't really think any measurement of male rape can be trusted since male rape is on...
by Wodashin
Thu May 10, 2012 7:45 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Did the same pervasive sense of doom exist 30 years ago?
Replies: 76
Views: 14495

Re: Did the same pervasive sense of doom exist 30 years ago?

Nuclear weapons have saved so many more potential lives than they've ever killed, so I don't even see how people can be upset about 'em. You don't see the kinds of wars that plagued Europe over and over anymore. You just don't see huge infantry units going against huge infantry units, with men dying...
by Wodashin
Thu May 10, 2012 12:08 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Why is sexism universal?
Replies: 265
Views: 46037

Re: Why is sexism universal?

40% of the time =/= 40% of men are abused. Of all the people who are abused, it's a men a good portion of the time. If women are being abused more, that's bad, but just throwing away the group of men and focusing on the majority, which isn't even a vast one, is extremely self-defeating. And obviousl...
by Wodashin
Thu May 10, 2012 3:44 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Did the same pervasive sense of doom exist 30 years ago?
Replies: 76
Views: 14495

Re: Did the same pervasive sense of doom exist 30 years ago?

There's always a counter-culture that's upset with the current way things are going, and there're always people who see 1984 happening right then. Sure, it may have been scary for some people, but it's always scary for some people. I mean, the government can now detain anyone for any reason, forever...
by Wodashin
Thu May 10, 2012 3:23 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Did the same pervasive sense of doom exist 30 years ago?
Replies: 76
Views: 14495

Re: Did the same pervasive sense of doom exist 30 years ago?

The 80s weren't exactly a depressing malaise for the most part. 60s, 70s, sure. National morale was low then. Reagan was voted in by a huge margin. There was nowhere near the level of partisanship in the 80s. I would certainly say there wasn't a sense of doom pervading everything like there is now, ...
by Wodashin
Wed May 09, 2012 10:31 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Why is sexism universal?
Replies: 265
Views: 46037

Re: Why is sexism universal?

So the whole is less than the sum of its parts in this situation? Perhaps. I've not looked through each and every study, but I have looked through some of them, and they seem to be reasonable on the whole. And I've seen many studies pointing to the same things, though they may or may not be on the l...

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