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by KrytenKoro
Thu May 11, 2017 1:30 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 8644
Views: 853524

Re: Trump presidency

Overall unfair privilege and other assorted dysfunctions are very much zero-sum, and getting them to zero (i.e., removing all the inequalities in the system) is very much the goal. In a lot of cases they aren't really zero sum. Take police brutality. Right now white people have significant privileg...
by KrytenKoro
Fri May 05, 2017 6:32 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 8644
Views: 853524

Re: Trump presidency

A bit of a flawed premise because privilege isn't something you can measure and "race" is at best a rough estimate of that privilege. You'd be much better off tying this into concrete and measurable things like finances, employment or educational opportunities in which case, yes, a larger...
by KrytenKoro
Wed May 03, 2017 9:55 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 8644
Views: 853524

Re: Trump presidency

(individuals who had nothing to do with that oppression) Proceeds from a crime are still proceeds from a crime. The people alive today don't have to have *committed* the crime to still be illegitimately profiting from it. We can debate the pros and cons of things like affirmative action, but if it ...
by KrytenKoro
Tue Feb 07, 2017 8:52 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 8644
Views: 853524

Re: Trump presidency

Democrats can't really be satisfied with ignoring republicans and being ignored by them. It's not working out well for them. Appealing to more voters may not be a moral necessity, but it is a practical step to getting more balance of power. If the Democrats pivot right on most of their core issues ...
by KrytenKoro
Thu Jan 05, 2017 11:58 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Gamergate
Replies: 700
Views: 154839

Re: Gamergate

That seems reasonable if the connection between Gamergate and Breitbart can be made. But I don't think anybody around here would disagree with the idea that Breitbart news is awful or that Milo Yiannopoulos is a jackass. The main issue is that while Milo Yiannopoulos is definitely a "reporter&...
by KrytenKoro
Thu Dec 15, 2016 5:01 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Gamergate
Replies: 700
Views: 154839

Re: Gamergate

If your only argument is "but they didn't make the exact same pedantic distinction I did", I must point you that you are picking technical nits with an argument that you yourself have constructed, and it's unlikely that their word choices are identical to yours. They would almost certainl...
by KrytenKoro
Wed Dec 14, 2016 8:39 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Gamergate
Replies: 700
Views: 154839

Re: Gamergate

I'm pointing out that your argument of "they're hypocrites because they do the same thing they disliked being done to them" doesn't work as a general rule, and doesn't seem to be very valid. ...in what way does it not work as a general rule? Seriously. Despite your assertion, it is absolu...
by KrytenKoro
Wed Dec 14, 2016 8:05 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Gamergate
Replies: 700
Views: 154839

Re: Gamergate

The only way you get around this is by acknowledging that the actions are indeed identical, but focus on picking nits with the definition, such that the given action is acceptable for your group, and not for that group, because you're targeting different people. Such nitpicking can be used to dispe...
by KrytenKoro
Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:36 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Gamergate
Replies: 700
Views: 154839

Re: Gamergate

I think the point is that neither group actually holds as a value "You shouldn't make people feel shitty". As I understand it, what KrytenKoro is arguing is that if Gamergate is opposed to censorship, then they shouldn't be using censorship as a way to advance their goals. In the abortion...
by KrytenKoro
Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:24 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Gamergate
Replies: 700
Views: 154839

Re: Gamergate

I see nothing wrong with responding to, say, a protest with counter-protest, or to a boycotts by boycotting in turn. That seems really fair, actually. Proportional. Neither do I. The reason I don't see anything wrong with it is because I'm not claiming that it's ethically wrong to boycott in the fi...
by KrytenKoro
Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:07 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Gamergate
Replies: 700
Views: 154839

Re: Gamergate

and it just seems to me that you think that Gamergate's morality is beyond redemption. Well, at this point, yes. The things they publicly suggest practicing are fundamentally opposed to what few laudable principles or goals they try to claim (and I'll admit that stuff like the "gamers are dead...
by KrytenKoro
Tue Dec 13, 2016 11:16 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Gamergate
Replies: 700
Views: 154839

Re: Gamergate

Penalties like "this company stole money, so now we're taking it from them" are often seen as just, not hypocrisy. Yet, it's basically the same thing. "This company stole my platform, so now I'm taking it back" would be justice. If the whole operation was centered around working...
by KrytenKoro
Tue Dec 13, 2016 10:57 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Gamergate
Replies: 700
Views: 154839

Re: Gamergate

*shrug* The "they did it first, so we're doing it back" is old as hell. Pretty much a standby of every major political party at this point. Also, many justice systems. Yes, definitely, and those political parties deserve little to no respect as well. They are obstacles to be dealt with, n...
by KrytenKoro
Tue Dec 13, 2016 10:33 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Gamergate
Replies: 700
Views: 154839

Re: Gamergate

Beyond that, Operation Disrespectful Nod and Operation Baby Seal were standard, run-of-the-mill "invasions" which rally up a core group of supporters, then spam emails and/or phone calls as a form of protest. Standard /b/ culture honestly. I guess it was more common to call them "let...
by KrytenKoro
Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:22 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Gamergate
Replies: 700
Views: 154839

Re: Gamergate

Based on my experience talking with Gamergaters, most of them just seemed pissed at the "censorship" that various Reddit moderators took to their own hands. And that's where the line in the sand was drawn. Which is bizarre and childish. No private person owes any other a platform to spew ...
by KrytenKoro
Sat Dec 10, 2016 12:35 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: 2016 US Presidential Election
Replies: 8482
Views: 1149953

Re: 2016 US Presidential Election

Pro-trump white supremacists in my town have also been posting flyers about America being a nation for the whites, ripping down pro-diversity flyers, and breaking parade violations by lying to the city organizers in order to turn it into a white supremacy March. So yeah, definitely not getting any s...
by KrytenKoro
Thu Dec 08, 2016 6:09 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: 2016 US Presidential Election
Replies: 8482
Views: 1149953

Re: 2016 US Presidential Election

Relevant to the discussion Knight said had to be continued here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskTrumpSuppor ... o/daxnkxz/
by KrytenKoro
Mon Dec 05, 2016 6:18 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Gamergate
Replies: 700
Views: 154839

Re: Gamergate

KrytenKoro: you do not hold a monopoly on "caring" for issues. I care and that's why I respond at all. On Gamergate, my caring level has greatly diminished in the past two years however. I'll reserve my hyperventilating for the actual Donald Trump topic. As for the rest of your post: Ad H...
by KrytenKoro
Fri Dec 02, 2016 4:02 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Gamergate
Replies: 700
Views: 154839

Re: Gamergate

This is the issue. You label someone as "your enemy" and then you perpetually attack them to make them seem unreasonable. Ignoring the main issue of "criticizing the accuracy of the other person's argument is the main way to prove their suggestion is unworkable", you somehow did...
by KrytenKoro
Fri Dec 02, 2016 3:52 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Gamergate
Replies: 700
Views: 154839

Re: Gamergate

Are you suggesting to me that Christina Hoff Summers is "Alt-Right" ?? Because she's taken the side of Gamergate? I can't say that I've followed her very specifically, but I see that she has several publications in "The Huffington Post", and doesn't seem to be a radical figure a...
by KrytenKoro
Fri Dec 02, 2016 3:33 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Gamergate
Replies: 700
Views: 154839

Re: Gamergate

Here's what is bothering me about your post KrytenKoro... and I think The Great Hippo put it best. An uber-macho fascism that describes the enemy (for there always must be one) as both laughably impotent and horrifyingly powerful What is Gamergate, in a nutshell? It was a shitty online drama that o...
by KrytenKoro
Fri Dec 02, 2016 3:16 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Gamergate
Replies: 700
Views: 154839

Re: Gamergate

Breitbart got in bed with gamergate, that's not something that can be argued. And that fact contradicts my post how exactly? Breitbart is the "bigger fish" compared to gamergate. No, it's saying that Breitbart took advantage of the controversy and played to one side of it to bolster suppo...
by KrytenKoro
Fri Dec 02, 2016 2:41 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Gamergate
Replies: 700
Views: 154839

Re: Gamergate

But I don't think it is any more fair to associate /r/The_Donald with GamerGate. They are uniquely different movements. ...it's literally the same people almost all of the time. Look at KiA, look at the posting history of people on Donald. For fuck's sake, Yiannapolous is a major figure in both cam...
by KrytenKoro
Thu Nov 17, 2016 3:11 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1756: "I'm With Her"
Replies: 446
Views: 95067

Re: 1756: "I'm With Her"

Since my mom was the example person we were previously discussing, I can give you the reasons she seems to have for wanting to get rid of those two groups. For the Muslims, it's just that they're not Christians, and are therefore the enemy of her religion which is the right religion because it is. ...
by KrytenKoro
Tue Nov 15, 2016 4:10 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1756: "I'm With Her"
Replies: 446
Views: 95067

Re: 1756: "I'm With Her"

But heck, now that you mention it, and if you don't mind my asking, what are you hoping to accomplish here? Read. Read the whole dang thing. It's the bulk of the paragraphs you're responding to. When did I say the point of my posts was electioneering? Putting aside that "it's the fault of thos...
by KrytenKoro
Mon Nov 14, 2016 1:40 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1756: "I'm With Her"
Replies: 446
Views: 95067

Re: 1756: "I'm With Her"

The more you agree with the basic view that KrytenKoro is espousing, the more you need to push back against these kind of tactics. Curious if you'd like to state what my "basic view" is, or if you're going to once again falsely insist that it's "government (and liberals) knows what t...
by KrytenKoro
Mon Nov 14, 2016 1:26 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1756: "I'm With Her"
Replies: 446
Views: 95067

Re: 1756: "I'm With Her"

It's not a matter of claiming to know their interests better than them, it's a matter of believing them when they say what their interests aare, and then knowing enough history and economics to make a good guess about what candidates and policies will serve those interests. Hardly. In Phorrest's ex...
by KrytenKoro
Fri Nov 11, 2016 9:01 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1756: "I'm With Her"
Replies: 446
Views: 95067

Re: 1756: "I'm With Her"

Except proving someone wrong doesn't mean you're right. It just means you're a better debater than your opponent. Its an issue I get when I was discussing politics with my mom (she is a Trump supporter). She's less informed than I am on virtually every issue. Not demeaning her or anything, I'm just...
by KrytenKoro
Fri Nov 11, 2016 8:44 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1756: "I'm With Her"
Replies: 446
Views: 95067

Re: 1756: "I'm With Her"

You took a single parameter -- your mom's government income -- implicitly declared it to be the most important measure of her well-being, made a guess as to how it might change in the future, assumed this to be Objective Science Fact, and then publicly impugned her sanity because she won't accept t...
by KrytenKoro
Wed Nov 09, 2016 2:52 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1756: "I'm With Her"
Replies: 446
Views: 95067

Re: 1756: "I'm With Her"

EDIT: Removed prior, omgryebread already handily rebutted it. Also, the use of "sacred cow" as an insulting and derisive reference mocking the Hindu religion. It really demonstrates what cowards some people are, who would never use a term such as "n*gger rigged" (and would likely...
by KrytenKoro
Tue Nov 08, 2016 2:08 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1756: "I'm With Her"
Replies: 446
Views: 95067

Re: 1756: "I'm With Her"

DOUBLE REPLY
by KrytenKoro
Tue Nov 08, 2016 2:00 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1756: "I'm With Her"
Replies: 446
Views: 95067

Re: 1756: "I'm With Her"

DOUBLE REPLY
by KrytenKoro
Tue Nov 08, 2016 1:50 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1756: "I'm With Her"
Replies: 446
Views: 95067

Re: 1756: "I'm With Her"

That's a rather vague, general statement lacking any particularity. I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't think the Constitution allows us any effective way to stop it, (Commerce Clause, she's a real witch.) Or if he simply disagrees with all of the specific plans that have been proposed to deal wi...
by KrytenKoro
Tue Nov 08, 2016 4:01 am UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1756: "I'm With Her"
Replies: 446
Views: 95067

Re: 1756: "I'm With Her"

On one end, I kind of hoped there would have been no endorsements. Now when I read comics, I'll think 'this person voted for Hillary', which, as much as I hate admitting it, will color my opinion of future (and probably past) comics. I'm in no way a Trump supporter, but I'm also not a Hillary suppo...
by KrytenKoro
Tue Jul 05, 2016 1:43 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: British EU referendum in June [update: Leave wins 52% - 48%, politics ensue]
Replies: 1474
Views: 243992

Re: British EU referendum in June [update: Leave wins 52% - 48%, Cameron to resign by October]

I know Protestants like to spread the idea that they're the only Christian sect with room for disagreement, Chum, I'm Catholic. but the Catholic Church also has the means to negotiate its positions with its followers, or otherwise they would still be selling indulgences up to this day, for example....
by KrytenKoro
Fri Jul 01, 2016 3:20 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: British EU referendum in June [update: Leave wins 52% - 48%, politics ensue]
Replies: 1474
Views: 243992

Re: British EU referendum in June [update: Leave wins 52% - 48%, Cameron to resign by October]

....No. I'm implying that just because some leader of some movement says or promotes something, that those who participate in his campaign will not necessarily share his motives and will vote for the same reason he does. Which is why I find absurd the idea that just because some political campaign ...
by KrytenKoro
Fri Jul 01, 2016 3:19 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: British EU referendum in June [update: Leave wins 52% - 48%, politics ensue]
Replies: 1474
Views: 243992

Re: British EU referendum in June [update: Leave wins 52% - 48%, Cameron to resign by October]

So, you're talking about people who are Catholic because their parents were Catholic, rather than out of any deep-seated conviction that Catholicism implies those priorities, and those priorities imply Catholicism. If you're comparing this to Brexit voters, you're implying that the Brexit voters jus...
by KrytenKoro
Thu Jun 30, 2016 6:43 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: British EU referendum in June [update: Leave wins 52% - 48%, politics ensue]
Replies: 1474
Views: 243992

Re: British EU referendum in June [update: Leave wins 52% - 48%, Cameron to resign by October]

My standard of evidence is a survey where the respondents give their many reasons for voting for a side of a debate instead of assuming that because some posters by some campaigners is representative of the whole. I think it's pretty disingenuous to wave it off as "some posters by some campaig...
by KrytenKoro
Wed Jun 15, 2016 3:54 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: 2016 US Presidential Election
Replies: 8482
Views: 1149953

Re: 2016 US Presidential Election

*shrug* This is the expected outcome of people screaming racist at every turn. It poisons dialogue. Everything gets ignored. Yeah, it's frustrating *now*, but it's a little bit late. This is the real cost of Basic Human Decency. It's even more frustrating that the people choosing to minimize the cr...

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