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by hawkinsssable
Mon Apr 29, 2013 1:16 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Animal Rights Activists Trash Italian Lab
Replies: 170
Views: 13950

Re: Animal Rights Activists Trash Italian Lab

So: Animal liberationists don't think that there are any morally relevant differences between humans and most animals. The reasoning I'm most familiar with goes something like this: "What's wrong with racism? Differences in skin colour are real, but they aren't morally significant enough to ju...
by hawkinsssable
Sun Apr 28, 2013 1:56 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Animal Rights Activists Trash Italian Lab
Replies: 170
Views: 13950

Re: Animal Rights Activists Trash Italian Lab

But I also don't think anything you just complained about the 'anti-anti-animal testing' group does is unique to them; plenty of anti-animal testing activists will 'smush together a mix of good, bad, staggeringly bad, and contradictory arguments together, then give themselves a nice little pat on t...
by hawkinsssable
Fri Apr 26, 2013 5:48 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Animal Rights Activists Trash Italian Lab
Replies: 170
Views: 13950

Re: Animal Rights Activists Trash Italian Lab

Yes, the police are not pressing charges. No arrests have been made following the 12-hour drama, which took place on Saturday, although the university says that it will press charges against the protesters. I don't imagine they're going to hand over more animals at the same time as pressing charges...
by hawkinsssable
Thu Apr 25, 2013 6:45 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Animal Rights Activists Trash Italian Lab
Replies: 170
Views: 13950

Re: Animal Rights Activists Trash Italian Lab

You pointed out a similarity between what these activists did and what Oskar Schindler did. That's textbook comparison. No? Incidentally, we do typically think it's okay for people to operate outside official institutions when those institutions are corrupt, not reformable, and/or outside of our po...
by hawkinsssable
Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:15 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Animal Rights Activists Trash Italian Lab
Replies: 170
Views: 13950

Re: Animal Rights Activists Trash Italian Lab

You pointed out a similarity between what these activists did and what Oskar Schindler did. That's textbook comparison. No? I pointed out that a certain line of argument ("the only legitimate response available to people who object to the actions of a particular institution is to join said ins...
by hawkinsssable
Thu Apr 25, 2013 4:53 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Animal Rights Activists Trash Italian Lab
Replies: 170
Views: 13950

Re: Animal Rights Activists Trash Italian Lab

They caused you to Godwin this thread and compare breaking into a lab and switching around labels to Oskar Schindler because...that's reasonable... Given that animal rights activists think that lab animals should have rights comparable to humans, and Nazis actually did a lot of experiments on human...
by hawkinsssable
Thu Apr 25, 2013 3:58 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Animal Rights Activists Trash Italian Lab
Replies: 170
Views: 13950

Re: Animal Rights Activists Trash Italian Lab

All I'm trying to say here is that there are fairly straightforward, internally-consistent reasons the protestors might have acted like they did, and disdainfully laughing at their inability to think things through because the animals will die anyway is smug and irrelevant. Better to disdainfully l...
by hawkinsssable
Thu Apr 25, 2013 3:47 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Animal Rights Activists Trash Italian Lab
Replies: 170
Views: 13950

Re: Animal Rights Activists Trash Italian Lab

So far as I know, most activists in this vein tend to target research of dubious-to-nonexistent scientific value, because they (like me) essentially can't understand how and why it is we've come to treat animals as though their well-being and our treatment of them, in labs and in intensive farming,...
by hawkinsssable
Wed Apr 24, 2013 3:46 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Animal Rights Activists Trash Italian Lab
Replies: 170
Views: 13950

Re: Animal Rights Activists Trash Italian Lab

The amazing thing about the article is that the author apparently didn't think to interview ANYBODY from Stop Green Hill, associated with Stop Green Hill, or in any way opposed to any of the research being conducted at the uni. Source #1: Researchers at the university ("it will take years to re...
by hawkinsssable
Wed Apr 24, 2013 6:17 am UTC
Forum: Movies and TV Shows
Topic: Hannibal (NBC T.V. series)
Replies: 32
Views: 16706

Re: Hannibal (NBC T.V. series)

The heavy dream imagery makes it kind of disorientating, but the way I saw it How would she know about the connection between the murders and the deer her father hunted? The first sign her father was up to something, from her point of view, was him slashing her mother's throat, and she's be...
by hawkinsssable
Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:39 pm UTC
Forum: Movies and TV Shows
Topic: Game of Thrones: The TV Show (novelisation coming soon)
Replies: 2096
Views: 270619

Re: Game of Throngs

As for the soldiers' issue with Danny, I agree with SlyReaper's opinion above - she's made a political move that has no actual cost to herself - the soldiers won't suddenly become free, but people will say she's kind. Also, she did free the slaves in the city instead of killing them...
by hawkinsssable
Mon Apr 22, 2013 3:22 am UTC
Forum: Movies and TV Shows
Topic: Hannibal (NBC T.V. series)
Replies: 32
Views: 16706

Re: Hannibal (NBC T.V. series)

I loved the pilot mostly for the Will / Hannibal interactions and beautiful visuals, but kinda felt like most of the characters (except for Hannibal) weren't really fleshed out enough. Female psychologist in particular, but also (to a lesser degree) Will - it would have been nice to see a bit more c...
by hawkinsssable
Mon Mar 18, 2013 4:17 pm UTC
Forum: Logic Puzzles
Topic: The truthteller and the politician
Replies: 65
Views: 24564

Re: The truthteller and the politician

I feel like there's a loophole that lets you shift the odds at least a little bit, assuming you have a die in your pocket and they take weird requests on bending the truth / lie issue. Would it be possible to do something along these lines: "Roll the die. If you roll a 3 or above, tell me the t...
by hawkinsssable
Sun Mar 17, 2013 4:32 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: John Cheese: Politicians don't understand poverty
Replies: 324
Views: 40472

Re: John Cheese: Politicians don't understand poverty

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/money/2011/09/13/news/economy/poverty_rate_income/chart-census-poverty.top.jpg You see, the problem is, around the time that the global financial crisis hit, all of these poor people got really lazy, forgot how to save money, and stopped pursuing economic opportunities inte...
by hawkinsssable
Thu Mar 14, 2013 2:14 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Hugo Chavez dead
Replies: 50
Views: 5627

Re: Hugo Chavez dead

I thought that this was a pretty interesting. http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2012/oct/04/venezuela-hugo-chavez-election-data# A very mixed bag. GDP per capita has more than doubled, but their currency isn't worth much at all. Extreme poverty has gone from a little under a quarter to a litt...
by hawkinsssable
Tue Feb 05, 2013 1:34 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: The War on Sex Workers
Replies: 251
Views: 17978

Re: The War on Sex Workers

I'd like to expand on the odd dichotomy of making porn being legal while prostitution is not. You're having sex for money? Bad. You're having sex for money...with a camera? Legit. What does the camera add, really? A purpose other than simple pleasure is all I can think of. Then, is the differentiat...
by hawkinsssable
Tue Feb 05, 2013 8:38 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: The War on Sex Workers
Replies: 251
Views: 17978

Re: The War on Sex Workers

@Nordic Einar : That was an incredible post. There are some things I still, for now, want to defend after refining them a little; a few things (time and motivation willing!) I'd love to just clarify and talk about and discuss; a few things I've realised I actually need to read way more about before...
by hawkinsssable
Mon Feb 04, 2013 11:35 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: The War on Sex Workers
Replies: 251
Views: 17978

Re: The War on Sex Workers

I'm only going by gut feeling in all this because how exactly do you scientifically quantify how one form of stigma affects one person vs how a different form of stigma affects another? Either you can take Hippo's approach of not daring attempt to grade them lest you be imprecise in your language o...
by hawkinsssable
Mon Feb 04, 2013 3:24 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: The War on Sex Workers
Replies: 251
Views: 17978

Re: The War on Sex Workers

Criminalization is a form of stigmatization. Not the only one, mind, but being arrested, imprisoned, etc carries negative connotations. Therefore, decriminalization is absolutely a part of fixing the stigma issue. Agreed. But this only takes you to "working as a prostitute should be decriminal...
by hawkinsssable
Sun Feb 03, 2013 5:04 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: The War on Sex Workers
Replies: 251
Views: 17978

Re: The War on Sex Workers

Make pimping illegal. EDIT: Or, at least, tightly regulate what pimps can and can't do. This strikes me as very similar to the drug solution Panama proposed: Make drug use legal (or create an alternative system to provide a support network for those who are using drugs)--then do everything you can ...
by hawkinsssable
Fri Feb 01, 2013 4:32 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: The War on Sex Workers
Replies: 251
Views: 17978

Re: The War on Sex Workers

@ Nordic Einar: Being told, in no uncertain terms, by somebody with actual authority and relevant first-hand experiences that you're completely wrong is the kind of thing that shakes you, makes you re-evaluate your beliefs, and/or figure out where, exactly, the miscommunication is, or where, exactly...
by hawkinsssable
Fri Feb 01, 2013 12:59 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: The War on Sex Workers
Replies: 251
Views: 17978

Re: The War on Sex Workers

Now: Can you imagine what working in this field would feel like, for you? Because I can't. I can't relate to any of it. I have no fucking idea. *shrug* There's a lot of things so different from my lifestyle that I can't relate to them. Traditional hunter-gatherer lifestyles practiced by tribes in t...
by hawkinsssable
Fri Feb 01, 2013 12:29 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: The War on Sex Workers
Replies: 251
Views: 17978

Re: The War on Sex Workers

Back on the sex work topic. I think banning sex work (no matter if by banning sales of purchases) is not to my liking. Arguments as following. 1)Either sex worker has no other economic opportunity, and would starve etc. So how is banning someone from earning their next meal gonna help them? Effort ...
by hawkinsssable
Fri Feb 01, 2013 11:37 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: The War on Sex Workers
Replies: 251
Views: 17978

Re: The War on Sex Workers

The actor is the company coming in and putting the factory there. If they Did not put it there, those people starve and die If he does put it there, they have horrible conditions but probably live. If it was required to have good conditions and wages, it wouldn't be built there. The Factory is ther...
by hawkinsssable
Thu Jan 31, 2013 12:42 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: The War on Sex Workers
Replies: 251
Views: 17978

Re: The War on Sex Workers

That's (obviously) a considerably more nuanced position than what the article presented it as; I'd now be deeply curious to see a quotation from Steinman along the lines of what the article claims Steinman's position is (and in the absence of such a quotation, would be prone to assume the article d...
by hawkinsssable
Wed Jan 30, 2013 3:52 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: The War on Sex Workers
Replies: 251
Views: 17978

Re: The War on Sex Workers

If New Zealand is anything like Australia, it would be physical isolation combined with stronger immigration policies. It would not be cheap or easy to traffic someone across the 'border' without a really legitimate looking reason for them to be there. By all accounts I've come across, internationa...
by hawkinsssable
Fri Jan 25, 2013 2:15 pm UTC
Forum: Movies and TV Shows
Topic: American Horror Story (aka, people in gimp suits)
Replies: 41
Views: 25275

Re: American Horror Story (aka, people in gimp suits)

I don't know exactly when it was that American Horror Story stopped being an enjoyable albeit clunky show and became the weird, beautiful, genuinely gripping show I want to throw awards at, but at some point this season the show moved from "yeah, I'll download it each week and watch it when we ...
by hawkinsssable
Wed Jan 23, 2013 3:55 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Gun Control
Replies: 2237
Views: 319335

Re: Gun Control

The whole 'That Recent Mass Shooting Was Fake And An Attempt To Force Gun Control Laws On Us So The Genocide Of The American People Can Begin' is a narrative that crops up after every mass shooting. I assumed it was some amazing, hilarious one-of-a-kind piece of spam from some especially crazy orga...
by hawkinsssable
Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:10 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Gun Control
Replies: 2237
Views: 319335

Re: Gun Control

In other-yet-oddly-appropriate news, I just received one of the most remarkable spam e-mails I've ever come across: From: VoiceOfFreedom@Inter.net [mailto:VoiceOfFreedom@Inter.net] Sent: Monday, 21 January 2013 11:24 PM Subject: Sandy Hook Shooting Didn't Happen [PROOF]Subject: Sandy Hook Shooting D...
by hawkinsssable
Tue Jan 15, 2013 1:29 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1159: "Countdown"
Replies: 77
Views: 17313

Re: #1159: Countdown

thyristor wrote:I guess we should have been worried.
BBC - 12 January 2013 - Spectacular scenes as Russia volcano erupts


The part where something startles the guy standing right near the eruption and he somewhat hurriedly turns around terrified me.

Spoiler:
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by hawkinsssable
Fri Jan 11, 2013 2:21 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Gun Control
Replies: 2237
Views: 319335

Re: Gun Control

Fair point. Test it both ways, see if the correlation still holds, and if it does you're in the clear. I guess it's just a shame that the survey didn't cover guns in the house prior to the death. And I think it's probably a stretch, in absence of said data, to assume that there are enough cases of r...
by hawkinsssable
Fri Jan 11, 2013 1:08 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Gun Control
Replies: 2237
Views: 319335

Re: Gun Control

to put it in terms of humorous hyperbole one could say that staying armed until you're senile enough to no longer be trusted with a gun could help you stay alive long enough to go senile. This is my new favourite argument for anything. though more seriously: I don't have time at the moment to re-re...
by hawkinsssable
Fri Jan 11, 2013 5:45 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Gun Control
Replies: 2237
Views: 319335

Re: Gun Control

my point was that that implies there's something wrong with that data. I'm quite prepared to believe that 72% of people who committed suicide had a gun. I'm quite prepared to believe that 42% of murder victims had a gun in the house. 32% of people who died by all other means however is utterly craz...
by hawkinsssable
Thu Jan 10, 2013 3:10 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Gun Control
Replies: 2237
Views: 319335

Re: Gun Control

if I've got the dates right I think the first author was a sociology student doing her sociology PHD, the second was some kind of director who was probably a supervisor of some kind while the third, I think was from the stats department so best guess is the phd did the research then the paper was c...
by hawkinsssable
Thu Jan 10, 2013 2:56 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Gun Control
Replies: 2237
Views: 319335

Re: Gun Control

Anatomy of a fuck up: I read the whole of the first post you wrote and the part that stuck in my mind was the correlation =/= causation part at the top, including this quote: if you live on the wrong side of the tracks over a crack house and under another crack house then you'd be stupid to not arm ...
by hawkinsssable
Thu Jan 10, 2013 4:20 am UTC
Forum: General
Topic: Thoughts for ships
Replies: 89782
Views: 6552680

Re: Screechings of the Great Unwashed (Meander to the Morgue

20-30 if I keep tweeting perhaps someone will love me Well I can't speak for the rest of my age bracket, but dang you hit the nail on the head there for me. I still don't understand how more people are following me than I'm following. Mark freaking Bradtke favourited a tweet of mine the other day (...
by hawkinsssable
Thu Jan 10, 2013 2:16 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Gun Control
Replies: 2237
Views: 319335

Re: Gun Control

http://www.theonion.com/articles/mentally-ill-man-not-in-mood-to-gun-down-strangers,30829/ Yeah, "mental illness" as a broad category seems spectacularly inadequate and more than a little offensive, even if there is a correlation for some mental illnesses (psychopathy, anyone?) actually t...
by hawkinsssable
Wed Jan 09, 2013 1:40 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Gun Control
Replies: 2237
Views: 319335

Re: Gun Control

As for the stats, they're from wikipedia. Hell if I remember which page, but overall, it's pretty clear that we don't see any clear correlation. Like you say, which crime is high does tend to vary a bit depending on country and culture and reporting methods. Culture is a pretty huge factor when doi...
by hawkinsssable
Mon Jan 07, 2013 2:25 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Gun Control
Replies: 2237
Views: 319335

Re: Gun Control

it's not a fair comparison. cows have a very low lethality point from the get go. they could fall on you, or gore you if they have horns, or trample you if they get moving, but on the whole, even a trained killer cow is kind of stupid. all guns can kill within their lethal parameters. they all shar...
by hawkinsssable
Sun Jan 06, 2013 4:05 pm UTC
Forum: Movies and TV Shows
Topic: The Hobbit
Replies: 217
Views: 73196

Re: The Hobbit

I just saw it and even though all kinds of things about it everybody here has already flagged irritated me (man were those stone giants were cringe-worthy), I really really really enjoyed it. What I don't get is all the hate for the supposed extensive discussions between Frodo and Bilbo / a long, po...

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