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by Puppyclaws
Tue Sep 19, 2017 4:52 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Antifa & neo-Nazi Ned in: "Too Many Violence?"
Replies: 398
Views: 13558

Re: Antifa & neo-Nazi Ned in: "Too Many Violence?"

I think b. is the point of disagreement I and most people would have in inserting Antifa in that. Antifa haven't intentionally infiltrated positions of power in police and government with the goal of spreading antifascism. Also largely disagree that a. applies to Antifa. This isn't the IRA or a para...
by Puppyclaws
Tue Sep 19, 2017 4:38 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Antifa & neo-Nazi Ned in: "Too Many Violence?"
Replies: 398
Views: 13558

Re: Antifa & neo-Nazi Ned in: "Too Many Violence?"

Okay. Now my understanding is there are those in this thread that believe violence against white nationalists is justified. Does this mean that if someone tweets "I wish all blacks would go back to Africa and leave America for the white race", violence is now justified against them? I'm n...
by Puppyclaws
Tue Sep 19, 2017 5:56 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Antifa & neo-Nazi Ned in: "Too Many Violence?"
Replies: 398
Views: 13558

Re: Antifa & neo-Nazi Ned in: "Too Many Violence?"

They are not. That is nobody's position. Happy to clarify for you.
by Puppyclaws
Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:05 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 3419
Views: 208859

Re: Trump presidency

As I said earlier, no one here is saying "go punch Nazis and make it legal," we're saying "punching Nazis is not a moral atrocity," and in re: where is the line, I have consistently said that advocating genocide is the line.
by Puppyclaws
Wed Aug 16, 2017 7:17 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 3419
Views: 208859

Re: Trump presidency

This is the man who organized the rally, the closest thing to the "head" of the rally last Saturday. I know you want to paint all of these people with a broad brush and stereotype them for the violence, but that's simply not the facts. I'm talking about Nazis who actively identify as Nazi...
by Puppyclaws
Wed Aug 16, 2017 6:49 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 3419
Views: 208859

Re: Trump presidency

Yeah... do you know about Abdul Razak Ali Artan? We do not blame the actions of a few on the entire group. There are violent Muslims in the world. That doesn't mean we blame all Muslims for the actions of a few. Not if you want to keep the moral high ground anyway. You've brought this up a couple t...
by Puppyclaws
Wed Aug 16, 2017 6:26 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 3419
Views: 208859

Re: Trump presidency

I might humbly suggest that even if not a single person associated in any way with the left lifted their finger, Trump would probably still say what he said about both sides, the alt-left, etc. His relationship with the truth is pretty loose and he doesn't care about getting it right, he cares about...
by Puppyclaws
Wed Aug 16, 2017 6:03 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 3419
Views: 208859

Re: Trump presidency

"Nazis are peaceful people who just want you to believe Hitler did nothing wrong" uhhhhhhhhhh Do you disagree with me about this reason or is there another reason to punch Nazis? I think what many of us are saying is not "let's all go punch Nazis." It's "it is not morally re...
by Puppyclaws
Wed Aug 16, 2017 5:10 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 3419
Views: 208859

Re: Trump presidency

Being a nazi isn't something a person is, it's something a person does. Specifically, it is the action of advocating for genocide based on what a person is (there are other bits but they are less important). I don't really care if someone else's moral code says sex is worse than murder. That person ...
by Puppyclaws
Wed Aug 16, 2017 7:11 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 3419
Views: 208859

Re: Trump presidency

Fighting words: "Hey, you're a no good Jew." "That makes me angry." [punch] Not legal. Self-defense: "Hey, you're a no good Jew, so I'm going to get my rifle from my truck and kill you and your whole family." "No, you won't." [Shoot] Legal. (Generally.) I dis...
by Puppyclaws
Wed Aug 16, 2017 4:37 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 3419
Views: 208859

Re: Trump presidency

"wait until they gas a couple million human beings" in other words. But no, I think we know enough about Nazis now that we can safely say that they deserve whatever violence they get. At some point a person is engaging in 'fighting words' and has given up their legal protection against bei...
by Puppyclaws
Tue Aug 01, 2017 10:30 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 3419
Views: 208859

Re: Trump presidency

I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure Trump has alleged as much about the Clintons in the past via twitter and other mediums anyways... Ah look, a washington post article on that very topic So you agree Donald Trump and co. make up shit about their opponents being actual murderers on the regular, a...
by Puppyclaws
Sun Jul 30, 2017 5:02 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 3419
Views: 208859

Re: Trump presidency

I agree with Quercus: Too much populism is as dangerous to the health of a society as being ruled by self-appointed elitist technocrats. My ideal system is a mixture of the two. If you want an analogy, think of a court room: The judge and lawyers are the technocrats and the jury the representatives...
by Puppyclaws
Sun Jul 30, 2017 4:07 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 3419
Views: 208859

Re: Trump presidency

The House of Lords seems like such a terrible system, I can't see someone comparing it favorably to the United States system. I really am surprised by the number of people here who think reducing the amount of direct democracy is a good idea. The Senate has been consistently the chamber of sanity in...
by Puppyclaws
Fri May 19, 2017 5:49 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 3419
Views: 208859

Re: Trump presidency

I doubt any Democratic candidate could win in Chaffetz's district (which includes Provo). The best that Democrats can hope for would be something like Evan McMullin running for and winning the seat.
by Puppyclaws
Wed May 17, 2017 5:32 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 3419
Views: 208859

Re: Trump presidency

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/1 ... ent-238505

"No politician in history — and I say this with great surety — has been treated worse or more unfairly."
by Puppyclaws
Mon May 15, 2017 3:26 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 3419
Views: 208859

Re: Trump presidency

I have to agree that if "he knows exactly what he's doing" which is an argument I hear a lot, I am totally confused by how he keeps losing and making a fool of himself and not really winning much of anything that isn't a gimme. All while maintaining a 40% approval rating. Like, nobody is d...
by Puppyclaws
Tue May 09, 2017 9:39 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: In other news... (humorous news items)
Replies: 13991
Views: 1890317

Re: In other news... (humorous news items)

Conveniently, I also have a vast, never ending stream of anecdotal evidence for my position on the disregard of gay men by other members of the LGBT community.
by Puppyclaws
Tue May 09, 2017 12:10 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: In other news... (humorous news items)
Replies: 13991
Views: 1890317

Re: In other news... (humorous news items)

I don't know about those cases, but gay men are also the most entitled group in the LGBTQ community, and many will very willingly throw other minority groups under the bus. In the absence of hard data I disagree. Other groups have been well known in the community to throw gay men under the bus for ...
by Puppyclaws
Mon May 08, 2017 3:19 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: In other news... (humorous news items)
Replies: 13991
Views: 1890317

Re: In other news... (humorous news items)

Maybe not "right wing people" but certainly "people voting in response to right wing sentiments." I don't really differentiate between "illegitimately afraid of Muslims" and "actively hostile to Muslims". Yoda, etc.
by Puppyclaws
Mon May 08, 2017 3:00 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: In other news... (humorous news items)
Replies: 13991
Views: 1890317

Re: In other news... (humorous news items)

Has the FN shifted, or has it expanded? AFAICT, they do not have much worries about their racist flange, there is no serious alternative hovering up their old-time hardliner voters. That suggest that their move is more a matter of PR management, than a genuine change of course. What else is electio...
by Puppyclaws
Mon May 08, 2017 3:59 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: In other news... (humorous news items)
Replies: 13991
Views: 1890317

Re: In other news... (humorous news items)

Result? Macron in a landslide . 65% counts as a landslide I guess. Much less of a landslide than in 2002 (82% vs 18%). Hoping this is the high point of the FN and not the direction politics in France are going to continue. I don't know why people keep bringing this comparison up; FN has gone way wa...
by Puppyclaws
Wed Apr 26, 2017 3:17 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 3419
Views: 208859

Re: Trump presidency

"Meh"ing at that, SDK, since we're talking about reciprocal behavior during debates/discussions/verbal fights and not a system oppression done by one group on another. It kinda is though, right? You see a middle-aged man with a pot belly in a plaid shirt walk into a bar, what do you think...
by Puppyclaws
Mon Apr 03, 2017 11:46 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 3419
Views: 208859

Re: Trump presidency

The NYT article cited a poll that only 3% of the voters they talked to would change their vote if they could, and only 1% would change it to Hilldawg. It does make things seem difficult. There's a lot of room between Trump and the-worst-possible-president-you-could-possibly-imagine. Maybe I lack th...
by Puppyclaws
Tue Feb 16, 2016 2:15 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: 2016 US Presidential Election
Replies: 8482
Views: 709414

Re: 2016 US Presidential Election

He only said he would not run as a third party as long as he was treated fairly. Given the reality distortion field he's living in, any event could be interpreted as unfair treatment.

I don't think the democrats are that lucky, though.
by Puppyclaws
Tue Feb 16, 2016 2:06 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Education requirements for elected officials
Replies: 70
Views: 12613

Re: Education requirements for elected officials

Over half the senate and 25% of the house already have advanced law degrees. It's not working out so hot. http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/how_many_jd_are_in_congress/ Agreed. Maybe I'm biased, but I think well-educated people tend to have more respect for power. The Smartest Guys in the Room ...
by Puppyclaws
Tue Dec 22, 2015 6:49 am UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1588: "Hardware Reductionism"
Replies: 32
Views: 7207

Re: 1588: "Hardware Reductionism"

I think you're mistaking the "we." Credible studies in neuroscience journals record observations and might make some very tentative guesses about what they might mean. It's when anyone tries to actually use that information that things start to get a little silly. Unfortunately this limit...
by Puppyclaws
Sat Nov 28, 2015 9:05 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: In other news... (humorous news items)
Replies: 13991
Views: 1890317

Re: In other news... (humorous news items, etc)

WRT Yale (not Mizzou or other situations I am not talking about): That Popehat got it wrong and cites several other people (Reason, FIRE) getting it wrong (I also don't take any of those three publications seriously at all) is not very interesting to me. That coverage is inaccurate, all you have to ...
by Puppyclaws
Thu Nov 26, 2015 6:45 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: In other news... (humorous news items)
Replies: 13991
Views: 1890317

Re: In other news... (humorous news items, etc)

Yes actually, I don't expect people in their late teens and early twenties to be as likely to contain their emotions as older adults. I very much doubt a fight would have somehow come about if he had attempted to shout her down in response (the result would probably be an ugly unpleasant shouting ma...
by Puppyclaws
Thu Nov 26, 2015 4:57 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: In other news... (humorous news items)
Replies: 13991
Views: 1890317

Re: In other news... (humorous news items, etc)

Over an ~18 year old getting upset and kind of screaming / crying? That does sound a lot less civilized, yes.
by Puppyclaws
Thu Nov 26, 2015 5:20 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: In other news... (humorous news items)
Replies: 13991
Views: 1890317

Re: In other news... (humorous news items, etc)

The allegedly damaging video shows a single student shouting at Christakis while a smattering of others look on in awe at the weirdness of the situation. But that is not silencing, that is free speech; the student is responding to Christakis' position. Anyway I have never heard of anyone calling for...
by Puppyclaws
Thu Nov 26, 2015 3:12 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: In other news... (humorous news items)
Replies: 13991
Views: 1890317

Re: In other news... (humorous news items, etc)

First, the letter that started it , from Yale's Intercultural Affairs Committee. I understand this asTL;DRing to "do what you want, but please be respectful of others." Then, Erika Christakis' response to some student complaints. This one's TL;DR would be "I understand the objections...
by Puppyclaws
Fri Jul 17, 2015 6:05 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: 2016 US Presidential Election
Replies: 8482
Views: 709414

Re: 2016 US Presidential Election

I'm not surprised you're incapable of understanding that those are actually the same thing but hopefully other people are capable of it.
by Puppyclaws
Fri Jul 17, 2015 5:58 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: 2016 US Presidential Election
Replies: 8482
Views: 709414

Re: 2016 US Presidential Election

There's no "gotcha" or "a little bit" about it; he opposes, fundamentally, the restriction on businesses denying service to people based on race or other protected class. Which is a major defining part of the CRA.
by Puppyclaws
Fri Jul 17, 2015 3:26 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: 2016 US Presidential Election
Replies: 8482
Views: 709414

Re: 2016 US Presidential Election

Rand Paul has never opposed the Civil Rights Act. His dad may have, but probably in the sense that Barry Goldwater (who founded an NAACP chapter) did - wanted a slightly different versions that he didn't view as unconstitutional. But Rand is not his dad, he is a bit closer to the mainstream and pro...
by Puppyclaws
Thu Jul 16, 2015 10:09 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: 2016 US Presidential Election
Replies: 8482
Views: 709414

Re: 2016 US Presidential Election

I just have two criticisms of Bernie Sanders 1) He opposes GMO crops 2) He opposes nuclear energy Given the choice between the above two and a candidate who is pro endless war (every other candidate in the race except Rand Paul, who opposes the Civil Rights Act), I am pretty sure I know which is th...
by Puppyclaws
Wed Jul 08, 2015 4:30 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1548: "90s Kid"
Replies: 32
Views: 6320

Re: 1548: "90s Kid"

I mean, also, who exactly is a "90's kid." I have never understood that to be "people who were born in the 90's." After all, "90's kid" nostalgia seems aimed at people who were around to experience most of the 90's cartoons and pop culture phenomena, which is moreso peo...
by Puppyclaws
Tue Jul 07, 2015 9:56 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Tom Cruise considering leaving Church of Scientology
Replies: 87
Views: 20149

Re: Tom Cruise considering leaving Church of Scientology

"Cult" can have different definitions. In its older senses the meaning is broad enough to encompass any system of worship; the definition that you're talking about, though also valid, is a very particular one that developed in the English-speaking world in the 20th century. Yes, language ...
by Puppyclaws
Tue Jul 07, 2015 4:47 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Tom Cruise considering leaving Church of Scientology
Replies: 87
Views: 20149

Re: Tom Cruise considering leaving Church of Scientology

According to Wikipedia, "religion" is: An organized collection of beliefs, cultural systems, and world views that relate humanity to an order of existence. and "cult" is: a religious or social group with socially deviant or novel beliefs and practices. A cult is just a (mostly n...
by Puppyclaws
Mon Jun 22, 2015 3:39 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: 2016 US Presidential Election
Replies: 8482
Views: 709414

Re: 2016 US Presidential Election

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