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by plytho
Thu Sep 20, 2018 5:31 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Wams chaos game day 3
Replies: 731
Views: 6843

Re: Wams chaos game day 3

Skipped this due to mpolo showing up: Well, tone doesn't always carry over in a written form. I saw analytical!plytho in those posts. I guess it doesn't. I was almost literally jumping up and down as I tried drag out my reveal in the hope that someone would stumble over it. I envy Madge's expressive...
by plytho
Thu Sep 20, 2018 5:16 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Wams chaos game day 3
Replies: 731
Views: 6843

Re: Wams chaos game day 3

Sabrar wrote:Madge already claimed VT, I don't see a second vanilla (especially a survivor) to be an option.
mpolo claimed vanilla too in a way.
by plytho
Thu Sep 20, 2018 5:12 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Wams chaos game day 3
Replies: 731
Views: 6843

Re: Wams chaos game day 3

I believe the resurrected double voter is town.

Mpolo didn't have a double vote D1
by plytho
Thu Sep 20, 2018 4:26 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Wams chaos game day 3
Replies: 731
Views: 6843

Re: Wams chaos game day 3

moody7277 wrote:As much as it annoys me to say, plytho's idea of the current state of the game being 3-1-1-1 makes the most sense.
Well, that really annoys me too. You're way too comfortable with that state of the game. Even if you're mafia that scenario leads to your loss.
by plytho
Thu Sep 20, 2018 4:12 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Wams chaos game day 3
Replies: 731
Views: 6843

Re: Wams chaos game day 3

Btw, kayaking was a lot of fun, the weather was nice and I'm sure I'll feel my muscles tomorrow.

Mpolo knows he's be back, right?
by plytho
Thu Sep 20, 2018 4:05 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Wams chaos game day 3
Replies: 731
Views: 6843

Re: Wams chaos game day 3

So you had this read-list where you say "I'd be surprised if scum shared these results". An hour later ConMan is at the bottom of the list but you are just 'needling' him about the order of the list. You vote him before he posts his defense but you "only really thought ConMan was scu...
by plytho
Thu Sep 20, 2018 1:09 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Wams chaos game day 3
Replies: 731
Views: 6843

Re: Wams chaos game day 3

Madge wrote:Do you agree that moody and Sabrar are both scum?
moody, yes probably. Sabrar, I don't think so.
by plytho
Thu Sep 20, 2018 7:51 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Wams chaos game day 3
Replies: 731
Views: 6843

Re: Wams chaos game day 3

Huh, that's right. I guess I took that more seriously than I remembered.
by plytho
Thu Sep 20, 2018 7:08 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Wams chaos game day 3
Replies: 731
Views: 6843

Re: Wams chaos game day 3

I'm about to get into a kayak for the rest of the day.
by plytho
Thu Sep 20, 2018 7:07 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Wams chaos game day 3
Replies: 731
Views: 6843

Re: Wams chaos game day 3

Oh, yeah, I get it. The original point about the order and calling ConMan suspicious for it was just some needling. I expected something along what jimbob said about another redirect happening. I only really thought ConMan was scum after his defense. Btw, I'm not that comfortable with moody being ha...
by plytho
Thu Sep 20, 2018 6:25 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Wams chaos game day 3
Replies: 731
Views: 6843

Re: Wams chaos game day 3

Sabrar wrote:I also want to come back this at some point because I feel that plytho's issue was not what I described and he later shifted to it. It might just be misunderstanding though but I want to see clearly.
My issue was that ConMan's explanation for the discrepancy between the lists involved him manipulating mpolo's position.
Madge wrote:I'm interested if Plytho has anything to say.
I've been talking quite a bit so far, anything specific you want me to talk about?
by plytho
Wed Sep 19, 2018 9:55 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Wams chaos game day 3
Replies: 731
Views: 6843

Re: Wams chaos game day 3

Hmm, yeah, an unwinnable role does not match the boldconfirmed rules. Unless you have a secret wincon you are unaware of, which would be extremely bastard.

Bedtime here.
by plytho
Wed Sep 19, 2018 9:29 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Wams chaos game day 3
Replies: 731
Views: 6843

Re: Wams chaos game day 3

Are you saying you are in an unwinnable scenario? (after a quick Google turned up a star trek reference)
by plytho
Wed Sep 19, 2018 9:26 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Wams chaos game day 3
Replies: 731
Views: 6843

Re: Wams chaos game day 3

moody7277 wrote:@plytho & somi

Would you consider a Kobayashi Maru role to be high bastardy?

I'm not familiar with that?
by plytho
Wed Sep 19, 2018 8:25 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Wams chaos game day 3
Replies: 731
Views: 6843

Re: Wams chaos game day 3

I'm a little worried because
moody7277 wrote:If I get lynched, I lose,
and
moody7277 wrote: I just want to be the last name crossed off your list before you do the town happy dance
seem contradictory.
by plytho
Wed Sep 19, 2018 7:54 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Wams chaos game day 3
Replies: 731
Views: 6843

Re: Wams chaos game day 3

Thoughts on a moody lynch: I think lynching moody is a terrible idea now as we'd go into the night with three town and two kills. With no cross kills that leaves 1 town vs two mafia with a guaranteed town loss. (assuming we actually have 3 town left) If it is 3-1-1-1 we're essentially at lylo (barri...
by plytho
Wed Sep 19, 2018 7:20 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Wams chaos game day 3
Replies: 731
Views: 6843

Re: Wams chaos game day 2

jimbobmacdoodle wrote: From my role PM, I know that Vicarin was the same alignment as me.
Right, that's pretty clear.
by plytho
Wed Sep 19, 2018 7:06 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Wams chaos game day 3
Replies: 731
Views: 6843

Re: Wams chaos game day 3

Note: I won't be available for most of tomorrow so any proper analysis of D3 content will have to wait for Friday .
by plytho
Wed Sep 19, 2018 7:04 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Wams chaos game day 3
Replies: 731
Views: 6843

Re: Wams chaos game night 2

First thoughts: -we can trust ConMan's redirection list (at least we can trust he was honest about it) -bessie had a lot more interactions than Mark so we might have an easier time finding mafia B -Vicarin was probably town (based on jimbob's claims) -Neither mafia B nor C were eliminated so we're s...
by plytho
Wed Sep 19, 2018 9:36 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread
Replies: 31505
Views: 2142438

Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Chaos

Spoiler:
What to do, what to do..
by plytho
Tue Sep 18, 2018 5:24 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Wams chaos game day 3
Replies: 731
Views: 6843

Re: Wams chaos game day 2

I'm tempted to place my vote on ConMan now. If somebody really wants to hammer, they'll just get lynched tomorrow (I'm looking at you, moody). Does anybody else have anything they want to discuss? not me. I'm not too bothered by a tied vote between ConMan and Madge, because it still leads to a scum...
by plytho
Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:33 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Wams chaos game day 3
Replies: 731
Views: 6843

Re: Wams chaos game day 2

@somitomi: your thoughts please on these developments?

Btw, since deadline is vague I really wouldn't like to stay around 3v3 too long.
by plytho
Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:31 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Wams chaos game day 3
Replies: 731
Views: 6843

Re: Wams chaos game day 2

bessie wrote:I would like to vote for ConMan but that would be L-1 with moody able to switch and hammer.


unvote

go ahead bessie.
by plytho
Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:27 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Wams chaos game day 3
Replies: 731
Views: 6843

Re: Wams chaos game day 2

I think plytho's issue is not relevant. I disagree. The order that ConMan gave us is in fact very logical (original player list order but grouping together those who were redirected to the same player). Sure. Therefore plytho's original inquiry is not well-founded, the explanation that mpolo was mo...
by plytho
Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:56 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Wams chaos game day 3
Replies: 731
Views: 6843

Re: Wams chaos game day 2

Did that make things clearer?
by plytho
Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:20 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Wams chaos game day 3
Replies: 731
Views: 6843

Re: Wams chaos game day 2

Note that ConMan didn't say: "well, that's the list I got from wam, I had no control" he said "It looks like that because I moved mpolo"
by plytho
Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:14 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Wams chaos game day 3
Replies: 731
Views: 6843

Re: Wams chaos game day 2

any reference to moving stuff is irrelevant to the lists you posted? Exactly, that's the slip. The lists I posted, one directly from wam, one from wam by way of ConMan, show an discrepancy in mpolo's position. The way ConMan posted his list shows the left column (original targets) following the pla...
by plytho
Tue Sep 18, 2018 11:16 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Wams chaos game day 3
Replies: 731
Views: 6843

Re: Wams chaos game day 2

I assume we're referring to ConMan putting mpolo in place 11 (not at the end)? Nope. The point is that the two lists I referenced were made by Wam. One is the player list and the other is the "random" redirect. I noticed a discrepancy in mpolo's place in the left side of the redirection l...
by plytho
Tue Sep 18, 2018 9:12 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Wams chaos game day 3
Replies: 731
Views: 6843

Re: Wams chaos game day 2

jimbobmacdoodle wrote:
plytho wrote:Yeah, pretty sure that was a slip.
Assuming this is what I think it is, I'm not convinced it's an alignment-indicative slip.
Why not?
by plytho
Tue Sep 18, 2018 8:06 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread
Replies: 31505
Views: 2142438

Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Chaos

Spoiler:
D2 turned out to be much more exciting then I expected after those flips, with moody outing himself and ConMan slipping.
by plytho
Tue Sep 18, 2018 7:47 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Wams chaos game day 3
Replies: 731
Views: 6843

Re: Wams chaos game day 2

somitomi wrote:
plytho wrote:Yeah, pretty sure that was a slip.

What was?
Isn't it obvious? It feels pretty obvious to me.
by plytho
Tue Sep 18, 2018 7:34 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Wams chaos game day 3
Replies: 731
Views: 6843

Re: Wams chaos game day 2

@somitomi: please vote.
by plytho
Tue Sep 18, 2018 7:28 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Wams chaos game day 3
Replies: 731
Views: 6843

Re: Wams chaos game day 2

wam wrote:Not Voting: Hueristically Alone, Moody7277, Plytho, Bessie, Somitomi

I believe moody and I are voting.
by plytho
Tue Sep 18, 2018 7:19 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Wams chaos game day 3
Replies: 731
Views: 6843

Re: Wams chaos game day 2

Yeah, pretty sure that was a slip.
by plytho
Tue Sep 18, 2018 6:37 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Wams chaos game day 3
Replies: 731
Views: 6843

Re: Wams chaos game day 2

Sabrar, like BoomFrog/ConMan and bessie are the one’s for whom Vicarins flip would have been very useful in determining their alignment. If Vicarin was town one of them could have janitored him to protect themselves. On the other hand, Vicarin’s scumbuddy could have janitored him to make Sabroomssi...
by plytho
Tue Sep 18, 2018 6:00 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Wams chaos game day 3
Replies: 731
Views: 6843

Re: Wams chaos game day 2

ConMan wrote:Nope, that's because I got the list in a slightly different format, then when I re-wrote it into this form I realised I missed mpolo so I stuck him on the end.
Do you mean you stuck him at 11?
by plytho
Mon Sep 17, 2018 9:53 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Wams chaos game day 3
Replies: 731
Views: 6843

Re: Wams chaos game day 2

Right, so there's 9 of us now. (1)If we lynch moody, without crossfire/protection we end up with 5 people left tomorrow. Two of whom have a kill. (2) Same goes for any mislynch. Although in that case town is definitely in the minority vs moody and at least two scum (3) If we lynch right (remaining m...
by plytho
Mon Sep 17, 2018 9:40 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Wams chaos game day 3
Replies: 731
Views: 6843

Re: Wams chaos game day 2

Less than 24h until deadline, it's time to vote.
by plytho
Mon Sep 17, 2018 9:39 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Wams chaos game day 3
Replies: 731
Views: 6843

Re: Wams chaos game day 2

Vote: ConMan

For now. Need to think about moody.
by plytho
Mon Sep 17, 2018 9:22 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Wams chaos game day 3
Replies: 731
Views: 6843

Re: Wams chaos game day 2

@plytho - why did you say that mpolo didn't have any reads? Yes, early on that was the case, but later in the weekend, he gave some. Hmm, you're referring to this post , right? I think I kind of dismissed that as not saying much at the time, seeing it more as a promise for content. You're right tha...

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