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Sun Dec 11, 2016 6:45 pm UTC
Forum: Logic Puzzles
Topic: Infinite Balls and Jugs [solution]
Replies: 611
Views: 76680

### Re: Infinite Balls and Jugs [solution]

...for the very reason that we have to take an infinite number of steps to count to them. But you haven't shown that we actually count to them after taking an infinite number of steps. You are assuming the consequent ("begging the quesiton"). Nobody here disputes the existence of ω any mo...
Sat Dec 10, 2016 9:25 pm UTC
Topic: 1190: "Time"
Replies: 104964
Views: 30235125

### Re: 1190: "Time"

Yes! The map will allow me to edit my location. I am now located south of Canberra, Australia. If only it could edit my actual location. Click - B a m ! - I'm sitting on a tropical beach! Hmmm... this sand seems more like salt... ...and everyone around is extremely thin, with nearly inscrutable lac...
Sat Dec 10, 2016 6:14 am UTC
Forum: Logic Puzzles
Topic: Infinite Balls and Jugs [solution]
Replies: 611
Views: 76680

### Re: Infinite Balls and Jugs [solution]

I want to reiterate that how we are interpreting the statement "1, 2, and so on" doesn't actually matter. Even if the problem specified that we had some extra balls lying around with infinitely large numbers or fractions or Ucim's missing ham sandwiches, the supertask would never actually...
Sat Dec 10, 2016 4:32 am UTC
Topic: 1770: "UI Change"
Replies: 56
Views: 9921

### Re: 1770: "UI Change"

(for example, they don't learn that "the envelope icon is email"; they learn that "the icon in the top-left corner is email"). This, in spades. I have dear family members who simply cannot get the concept behind things like saving a file, or the difference between "birthday...
Fri Dec 09, 2016 5:29 pm UTC
Topic: 1190: "Time"
Replies: 104964
Views: 30235125

### Re: 1190: "Time"

You live in a very picturesque area. Of course, a good photographer can make anything picturesque, just like your verses make the weather into an awesomeful experience. Looks like you are having good weather now. So are we; a bit chillier though. So there's a "posting mindset", and a "...
Fri Dec 09, 2016 3:45 pm UTC
Forum: Logic Puzzles
Topic: Infinite Balls and Jugs [solution]
Replies: 611
Views: 76680

### Re: Infinite Balls and Jugs [solution]

I have tried to illustrate my thoughts with many alternative scenarios and have been told not to deviate from the original puzzle. Mainly because your deviations are complications and obfuscations. If you want to make progress (either in understanding or in convincing) you have to reduce down to th...
Fri Dec 09, 2016 5:17 am UTC
Topic: 1769: "Never seen Star Wars"
Replies: 85
Views: 11296

### Re: 1769: "Never seen Star Wars"

Isn't that the opposite of what the comic is about? Yeah, I guess so. If an algebraic sign is wrong, change it. :) I'd say it belongs in the class with 8 1/2, which is well known but I don't think lots of people have seen it. But then 8 1/2 is also not a film that "everyone has seen". The...
Fri Dec 09, 2016 5:08 am UTC
Forum: Logic Puzzles
Topic: Infinite Balls and Jugs [solution]
Replies: 611
Views: 76680

### Re: Infinite Balls and Jugs [solution]

"Regarding set partitioning:" Take an infinite set S ={1,1,1,1,....} That's not an infinite set. That's an infinite amount of drivel to describe a finite set - a set with one element, to wit: the first counting number. Take an infinite set N ={1,2,3,...} Append an infinite value. [...] Yo...
Fri Dec 09, 2016 4:35 am UTC
Topic: 1190: "Time"
Replies: 104964
Views: 30235125

### Re: 1190: "Time"

addams , you have such a wonderful perspective on life, and a molpish way of bringing it out to the OTT. And, a wonderful way of bringing the OTT out. Such lovely verse from you, June Bug , taixzo , and Zooman (that one made me smile in a different way!). John Burrows didn't do badly either, and he...
Fri Dec 09, 2016 3:51 am UTC
Topic: 1761: "Blame"
Replies: 138
Views: 19743

### Re: 1761: "Blame"

It's like if I offer you a coffee, and you say "yes": you expect me to deliver on my offer, not to come back in five minutes and say "are you sure?". No, it's more like I offer you a root canal and you say " Oh, I dunno. I guess so. Okay ." So I hand you a bottle of wh...
Fri Dec 09, 2016 3:43 am UTC
Topic: 1769: "Never seen Star Wars"
Replies: 85
Views: 11296

### Re: 1769: "Never seen Star Wars"

One more that everyone must see: Colossus - the Forbin Project . The original, set in the 50s or early 60s. If there is ever a remake, don't watch it; it will be terrible. Yes, it's a bit dated but that matters not a whit. (I find it disturbing that people are still touting the handing over of gover...
Tue Dec 06, 2016 4:57 pm UTC
Topic: Racism debate split from elections thread
Replies: 56
Views: 10903

### Re: 2016 US Presidential Election

I meant to say what do we call someone who's using culture as a proxy to describe what they see as degenerate races (by discussing degenerate culture, instead). Given that exact scenario , the person is racist, but not because they are "using culture as a...", but because they "...se...
Tue Dec 06, 2016 2:00 pm UTC
Topic: Racism debate split from elections thread
Replies: 56
Views: 10903

### Re: 2016 US Presidential Election

So what *is* the correct term for someone who uses culture as a proxy for race to talk about "degenerate races"? Bigot. (And where did the term "degenerate races" come from?)* It sounds like you don't want us using "racist" as a term unless someone carefully qualifies ...
Tue Dec 06, 2016 1:30 pm UTC
Topic: 1190: "Time"
Replies: 104964
Views: 30235125

### Re: 1190: "Time"

but when I see the glass monument UNGed, I wince a little because I feel like that is more about Sandcastle Builder than the OTC (or maybe it's because it didn't come out very well). Oh me yarm that is one of the most awesomeful ones! I can't even imagine what must have been in your head if you don...
Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:43 am UTC
Topic: Racism debate split from elections thread
Replies: 56
Views: 10903

### Re: 2016 US Presidential Election

ucim, if you understand how culture can be a proxy for race, then it sounds like you're not disagreeing with Zamfir or myself. Culture can be a proxy for race. But it isn't always, and calling somebody racist (rather than the correct term) is like calling sparkling wine Champagne rather than Cava, ...
Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:07 am UTC
Forum: General
Topic: Blistering blue barnacles
Replies: 28315
Views: 2573814

### Re: ANGRY NATTERINGS

Ch*rp it Google, I DON'T WANT TO INSTALL AN APP to access your website. DON'T FORCE ME TO! Ditto all the other websites that foist apps on users. (I use google docs, and Google detects that I'm on Android and won't let me access it via the web. I have to download an app, which allows google nearly u...
Tue Dec 06, 2016 1:18 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: 2016 US Presidential Election
Replies: 8482
Views: 727199

### Re: 2016 US Presidential Election

Well, okay; let's try an example. If I told you that the reason black people get shot by the police in the US so much is because black music and black culture encourages rebellion against authority -- which leads them to resist arrest -- how would you describe that belief? First question would be i...
Mon Dec 05, 2016 11:32 pm UTC
Topic: 1190: "Time"
Replies: 104964
Views: 30235125

### Re: 1190: "Time"

What an awesomeful view of and from that greenhouse ggh ! I see you live by the sea. Be careful now, you may think you're safe because you're high up, but the sea is big, and does what it wants. I hope it wants to stay right where it is. :) For my own projects, I'm almost done with another corner of...
Mon Dec 05, 2016 11:06 pm UTC
Forum: Logic Puzzles
Topic: Infinite Balls and Jugs [solution]
Replies: 611
Views: 76680

### Re: Infinite Balls and Jugs [solution]

The labels are important, I don't think they should just be dismissed. Maybe, but if we can't agree on the pure version, we'll never agree on the farded version. Now consider the three-partition L-C-R scenario. At the end of the supertask, all the natural numbers are in L. It doesn't matter how it ...
Mon Dec 05, 2016 5:02 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: 2016 US Presidential Election
Replies: 8482
Views: 727199

### Re: 2016 US Presidential Election

Racism is a bad form of prejudice. But it is not a word that means "bad form of prejudice". It is specifically related to bloodlines. There are other "bad forms of prejudice", and there are words for them. It's just that those words aren't as emotionally powerful, so "racist...
Mon Dec 05, 2016 3:42 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: 2016 US Presidential Election
Replies: 8482
Views: 727199

### Re: 2016 US Presidential Election

One may not be part of the other, but if you're consistently biased against cultural elements that pretty exclusively correspond to one particular race or another, I'm perfectly comfortable calling you racist. You might tell yourself linguistic or cultural lies to justify a dislike of AAVE or dread...
Sun Dec 04, 2016 2:54 pm UTC
Topic: 1190: "Time"
Replies: 104964
Views: 30235125

### Re: 1190: "Time"

This has been a treeish OTTypage or two! Even if ggh 's "Hi, Cue" doesn't "quite" work, it is redundantly self-referential, as it contains a high Q, having itself within itself. Perhaps it's a clue to the source of redundancy, and is why OTTers like haiku. And thunk 's Zanclean -...
Sat Dec 03, 2016 4:41 am UTC
Forum: Forum Games
Topic: Corrupt-a-wish
Replies: 25521
Views: 1762281

### Re: Corrupt-a-wish

Granted. They are done.
In crayon.
By Donald Trump.

He's sending you a bill.
He will see to it that this bill is paid.

I wish the index of the last messages I read from each thread were stored locally on my computer, so that I didn't have to log in to use that feature.

Jose
Fri Dec 02, 2016 10:56 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: 2016 US Presidential Election
Replies: 8482
Views: 727199

### Re: 2016 US Presidential Election

Trump might face more backlash than I was expecting: Trump faces and has faced enormous backlash throughout his campaign. It doesn't sink him. He gets people to line up behind him, despite all the backlash. That's the scary part. That's what tells me this isn't an ordinary "my party lost"...
Fri Dec 02, 2016 10:18 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: 2016 US Presidential Election
Replies: 8482
Views: 727199

### Re: 2016 US Presidential Election

morriswalters wrote:It looks vaguely like a conspiracy theory in the making.
That's what they want you to think.

Jose
Fri Dec 02, 2016 9:24 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: 2016 US Presidential Election
Replies: 8482
Views: 727199

### Re: 2016 US Presidential Election

I'm already figuring that Trump's re-election slogan in 2020 is going to be "Keep America Great." There isn't going to be an election. As Trump keeps tweeting about rigged elections, people continue to lose faith in the actual workings of this democracy. In 2018 a few more Republicans get...
Fri Dec 02, 2016 2:16 pm UTC
Forum: Coding
Topic: Coding: Fleeting Thoughts
Replies: 9762
Views: 1570977

### Re: Coding: Fleeting Thoughts

[canonical encoding] doesn't necessarily mean all functionally equivalent procedures will be considered identical... In that case, what's the point? As to re-ordering of operations, the compiler may (or may not - depends) for example treat (ab-ac) and (a-b)*c differently. One might be easier to und...
Fri Dec 02, 2016 4:34 am UTC
Forum: Coding
Topic: Coding: Fleeting Thoughts
Replies: 9762
Views: 1570977

### Re: Coding: Fleeting Thoughts

Thesh wrote:Umm... Of course there are superficial things. That's the entire reason for canonical encodings.

What are canonical encodings?

Jose
Fri Dec 02, 2016 12:35 am UTC
Forum: Coding
Topic: Coding: Fleeting Thoughts
Replies: 9762
Views: 1570977

### Re: Coding: Fleeting Thoughts

...two functions that differ only in superficial ways... Uhhhh... I'd venture to say that there's no such thing as superficial. Functions make assumptions, and when those assumptions are true, there are rainbows and ponies. When those assumptions are false, there is rain and horseshit, no matter ho...
Fri Dec 02, 2016 12:15 am UTC
Topic: 1190: "Time"
Replies: 104964
Views: 30235125

### Re: 1190: "Time"

ggh wrote:If you think playing an H when you need a Bb sounds bad, try talking about your "fanny pack" where they speak British English.

For me, chocolate acts as a fanny pack. Oooh, heresy! Time for the comfy chair and the S&Ms.

Jose
Thu Dec 01, 2016 4:04 pm UTC
Forum: Logic Puzzles
Topic: Infinite Balls and Jugs [solution]
Replies: 611
Views: 76680

### Re: Infinite Balls and Jugs [solution]

Finally, if you want to understand where the infinite numbers came from in my explanation, consider the ever-expanding labels in this game. Let's skip the labels and the balls and all the distractions. Consider two sets: A and E. Set A contains all the natural numbers. Set E contains all the natura...
Thu Dec 01, 2016 2:57 pm UTC
Topic: 1190: "Time"
Replies: 104964
Views: 30235125

### Re: 1190: "Time"

Yeah, I had the same trouble with yams. Also lemonade, bacon, and my fanny. You have two different fannies with the same name? OTColoreds provided a fitting background beyond the narrow slice of depth, and from there they branched out to, er, less fitting backgrounds and wilder interpretations, whi...
Thu Dec 01, 2016 5:08 am UTC
Forum: Forum Games
Topic: Foil the plans
Replies: 86
Views: 5239

### Re: Foil the plans

I was testing the noise cancelling headphones when you told me not to do drugs. I didn't hear you, and did them. And then I... um... forgot what I did.

Seems writing in the past tense works well too.

Jose
Thu Dec 01, 2016 4:58 am UTC
Topic: 1190: "Time"
Replies: 104964
Views: 30235125

### Re: 1190: "Time"

The river is small . The sea is big! Welcome Quantized ! Glad you discovered the thread - your life is about to change forever. :) And there are many ways to Time; you are welcome here no matter which way you choose. As you have found through personal experience, there are some for whom stepping in...
Wed Nov 30, 2016 10:56 pm UTC
Forum: Forum Games
Topic: Foil the plans
Replies: 86
Views: 5239

### Re: Foil the plans

I make my plans in the shape of wirecutters, so that if/when somitomi foils my plans, they don't actually foil the insulating wirecutters, leaving my plans unfoiled by being foiled. I then submit myself to the comfy chair . Edit: Oooh! Pope! I also decree that this be a valid and legal post, so that...
Wed Nov 30, 2016 10:47 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: 2016 US Presidential Election
Replies: 8482
Views: 727199

### Re: 2016 US Presidential Election

Adding a vague qualifier doesn't change the purpose of the law; practically any incident that includes burning a flag could be interpreted as intimidation towards someone. ... and yet, vague qualifiers are vitally important. When you kill somebody, they are equally dead whether or not you killed th...
Wed Nov 30, 2016 9:56 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: 2016 US Presidential Election
Replies: 8482
Views: 727199

### Re: 2016 US Presidential Election

I wonder what these self-proclaimed activists would do if someone showed them the Flag Protection Act of 2005 and, more to the point, show them who it was sponsored by... Would they try to deny that it was real? Would they try to spin it somehow? Or would their pointy little heads just explode? Wel...
Wed Nov 30, 2016 5:40 pm UTC
Forum: Logic Puzzles
Topic: Infinite Balls and Jugs [solution]
Replies: 611
Views: 76680

### Re: Infinite Balls and Jugs [solution]

The input is the natural numbers in order. The output is two or three sets of natural numbers. The first set can be mapped to N . That doesn't mean the other sets are empty, as demonstrated by the even-odd sorting. You are absolutely correct. The reason the other sets are empty is not that the firs...
Wed Nov 30, 2016 2:21 pm UTC
Forum: Logic Puzzles
Topic: Infinite Balls and Jugs [solution]
Replies: 611
Views: 76680

### Re: Infinite Balls and Jugs [solution]

You never 'use up all the natural numbers'. There are always more. Supertasks are designed to "use up all the natural numbers" in some form or other. Your squishy tower "uses up all the natural numbers" when it collapses. You can "use up all the natural numbers" by put...
Tue Nov 29, 2016 11:28 pm UTC
Forum: Logic Puzzles
Topic: Infinite Balls and Jugs [solution]
Replies: 611
Views: 76680

### Re: Infinite Balls and Jugs [solution]

...except for the fact that there is no mechanism for leaving C empty, since every step leaves something in it. Every step also takes something away, and in the end, there's nothing left. C is the set containing the next natural number. When you have used up all the natural numbers, there is no nex...