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by Sedition1917
Tue Aug 19, 2008 2:54 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Marxism/Socialism/Communism
Replies: 263
Views: 23876

Re: Marxism/Socialism/Communism

Sedition1917, you started this thread with a challenge for edit: asked people to explain why your theory and policy are defective, but you never articulated either. Instead, you've taken this as an opportunity to parrot clichéd complaints about the Western (and global) economy, and conveniently dis...
by Sedition1917
Tue Aug 19, 2008 10:24 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Marxism/Socialism/Communism
Replies: 263
Views: 23876

Re: Marxism/Socialism/Communism

Why would we want that? Modern production is based on mass production, there isn't really a place for a large number of 'artisans'. Yeah I don’t agree with the artisans point. How well do those calculations work in a post industrial society? We are moving away from a society composed mostly of 'wor...
by Sedition1917
Tue Aug 19, 2008 12:28 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Marxism/Socialism/Communism
Replies: 263
Views: 23876

Re: Marxism/Socialism/Communism

I'm heading to bed now but will try to respond to the other points tomorrow. But just quickly: Then where does the money used to pay the worker? This has always been one of the main points where communism losses me. Because commodities are sold at their value, i.e based on how much value is worked u...
by Sedition1917
Tue Aug 19, 2008 12:10 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Marxism/Socialism/Communism
Replies: 263
Views: 23876

Re: Marxism/Socialism/Communism

Then I fail to see how this gets us a functionally different system than what we have now. Because the removal of the class system means that things are being run directly for need rather than for a profit. And in removing the profit motive and the capitalist class, the workers earn the full value ...
by Sedition1917
Mon Aug 18, 2008 10:24 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Marxism/Socialism/Communism
Replies: 263
Views: 23876

Re: Marxism/Socialism/Communism

Except, of course, that you ignore the value of every other input. If person A can make cool toys, but requires 100 square km of land to do it, while person B can do it in his back yard -- both have the same "price"? Or do you invent a value for the 100 square km of land out of thin air, ...
by Sedition1917
Mon Aug 18, 2008 8:46 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Marxism/Socialism/Communism
Replies: 263
Views: 23876

Re: Marxism/Socialism/Communism

So you can attack capitalism because non-capitalist countries are poor (your remark about people living on 2 dollars a day), but it's okay that marxism doesn't help people outside of its own borders? Worldwide capitalism would benefit those poor people in third world countries too. That's why i giv...
by Sedition1917
Mon Aug 18, 2008 3:00 pm UTC
Forum: Forum Games
Topic: Picture Pwn4ge!
Replies: 8368
Views: 1225122

Re: Picture Pwn4ge!

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Frank Serpico Busts corrupt cops!
by Sedition1917
Mon Aug 18, 2008 2:25 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Marxism/Socialism/Communism
Replies: 263
Views: 23876

Re: Marxism/Socialism/Communism

Creativity will slowly start to stagnate, and in the coming decades, I wouldn't be surprised to see more free-market societies starting to pass me Just a quick point, as I think most of it has been answered, but Socialism in one country most definitely does not work. I agree with trotsky's theory o...
by Sedition1917
Mon Aug 18, 2008 2:22 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Marxism/Socialism/Communism
Replies: 263
Views: 23876

Re: Marxism/Socialism/Communism

You DO NOT elect a communist government. Figures. So if one's in place, the only way to really get rid of it is either ANOTHER revolution, or an endless series of reforms, aka Perestroika Sorry, you most definitely do elect a communist government. In the most democratic way! Not one vote every 5 or...
by Sedition1917
Mon Aug 18, 2008 2:18 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Marxism/Socialism/Communism
Replies: 263
Views: 23876

Re: Marxism/Socialism/Communism

My largest complaints regarding communism deal with the fact that as a fairly bright, hardworking individual, I won't be rewarded as nearly as much under a socialist system as I would under a more open, capitalist system. From the first complaint, comes another - if I won't be rewarded as well, my ...
by Sedition1917
Mon Aug 18, 2008 2:00 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Marxism/Socialism/Communism
Replies: 263
Views: 23876

Re: Marxism/Socialism/Communism

You make an interesting point... How do you propose this would occur? As in the government would assign different jobs based on personal ability? Well the "government" under Socialism is not the top-down, bureaucratic dictatorship of Stalinism or Maoism. It is delegates and representative...
by Sedition1917
Mon Aug 18, 2008 11:40 am UTC
Forum: Forum Games
Topic: Picture Pwn4ge!
Replies: 8368
Views: 1225122

Re: Picture Pwn4ge!

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If Murphy's Law means everything that can go wrong will go wrong, ecstasy means everything seems to go and feel juuuuust right. :wink:
by Sedition1917
Mon Aug 18, 2008 11:30 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Marxism/Socialism/Communism
Replies: 263
Views: 23876

Re: Marxism/Socialism/Communism

Thanks for your reply. Why don't you think a planned economy works for agriculture etc? As for everyone having equal social standing, all that would mean would be that people would not be able to make their money off the back of another's labour. People would be paid differently, have different, mor...
by Sedition1917
Mon Aug 18, 2008 10:11 am UTC
Forum: Forum Games
Topic: Picture Pwn4ge!
Replies: 8368
Views: 1225122

Re: Picture Pwn4ge!

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Javelin Anti-Tank Missile.
by Sedition1917
Mon Aug 18, 2008 9:58 am UTC
Forum: Forum Games
Topic: Wikipedia Spider Game
Replies: 196
Views: 15846

Re: Wikipedia Spider Game

Plasmodesmata>Genome>Biology>Science>Scientific Computing>Computer Programs>Lisp Programming Language>Hackers & Painters>Hacker (Computing)>Jargon File>Computer Jargon (Category - Is that cheating?)>Blinkenlights Ok... Using 'Random Article'... Czech orthography>Jean Fontenay
by Sedition1917
Mon Aug 18, 2008 9:26 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Marxism/Socialism/Communism
Replies: 263
Views: 23876

Marxism/Socialism/Communism

Hi, new to the boards but been a fan of xkcd for a long time. Just looking through I can see this subject has been touched on before, but I'd just like to attack it head on. I'm always interested with why intelligent people disagree with Marx and his theory of Capitalism and the progression of socie...

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