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by BoomFrog
Sat Aug 11, 2018 3:28 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D4)
Replies: 868
Views: 9008

Re: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D3)

And why'd you kill heauy?
by BoomFrog
Wed Aug 08, 2018 7:23 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D4)
Replies: 868
Views: 9008

Re: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D2)

I'd rather no lynch then lynch wam, but Vic sabotaged any chance of that happening. Lynching wam is a risk, if we get it wrong and the night goes poorly we will have to guess correctly between the cops. But that's the game. Wam is pretty likely to be scum. In fact a Vic/wam team is looking very like...
by BoomFrog
Wed Aug 08, 2018 3:22 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D4)
Replies: 868
Views: 9008

Re: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D2)

@Vic: Bessie, mpolo and Madge aren't going to happen at this point. You might as well move your vote to NL now to give it a chance.

@wam please give all the details (paraphrased) of your secondary win con.
by BoomFrog
Wed Aug 08, 2018 5:18 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D4)
Replies: 868
Views: 9008

Re: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D2)

Vic should still target Madge for sure. If he lives and isn't roleblocked then that's the best result we can get (unless Madge is killed). But if we have a doc Madge is the only non-macho valuable target so she has a good chance of protection. More thought there is just helping scum plan. Bessie, yo...
by BoomFrog
Wed Aug 08, 2018 4:13 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D4)
Replies: 868
Views: 9008

Re: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D2)

I've been assuming the roleblocker was town, but Vic raises a valid concern. I guess we need to lynch Cop. No actually LaserGuy was right. If we no lynch scum are forced to resolve the issue or let a cop (or 2) live. If the doc gets a save we are gaining valuable cop results. If the roleblocker is t...
by BoomFrog
Wed Aug 08, 2018 2:43 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D4)
Replies: 868
Views: 9008

Re: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D2)

Hmm, I thought I'd made it clear I was sunfish.
by BoomFrog
Tue Aug 07, 2018 11:18 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D4)
Replies: 868
Views: 9008

Re: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D2)

@Mark: I like your read. Just to add to it, I have a personal meta read of Madge that she is very likely to be town this game. So if you end up having to decide if you should trust her or someone else, I'd say trust her. (of course don't take this as fact until you are confident of my alignment.)
by BoomFrog
Tue Aug 07, 2018 7:48 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D4)
Replies: 868
Views: 9008

Re: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D2)

heuristically_alone: Mostly unobjectionable content. Interesting that he refused to take a side on the cop issue. I noted a few comments that could be informed depending on how the cop situation resolves itself. If both cops are Town, then I think it's likely that he'll flip scum, but probably Town...
by BoomFrog
Tue Aug 07, 2018 3:46 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D4)
Replies: 868
Views: 9008

Re: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D2)

Unofficial vote LaserGuy

Wam might be indy though.
by BoomFrog
Tue Aug 07, 2018 3:39 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D4)
Replies: 868
Views: 9008

Re: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D2)

I don't see a potential scum partner for wam... : /. That means probably one of the cops is fake. But we can determine the answer with night actions. @Vicarin: Do you agree proving you are town is more valuable right now then you getting another result? It's like getting a result in yourself for eve...
by BoomFrog
Tue Aug 07, 2018 1:49 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D4)
Replies: 868
Views: 9008

Re: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D2)

I unofficially vote for wam.

If it's needed to push the correct lynch I will vote if able.

If our theory is town-Vic was supposed to be messed with but scum was roleblocked doesn't that indicate LaserGuy is scum?
by BoomFrog
Tue Aug 07, 2018 5:50 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D4)
Replies: 868
Views: 9008

Re: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D2)

Wam, laserguy, sabrar, and madgewho would you vote for if you didn't vote for a claimed cop? If we don't lynch Vicarin, I'd probably go for No Lynch at this point. I might do wam in a pinch, but the other options are better IMHO. Why throw away our chance at an extra lynch if we get an extra save? ...
by BoomFrog
Tue Aug 07, 2018 5:48 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D4)
Replies: 868
Views: 9008

Re: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D2)

Yes, you say you were reluctant. But what made you decide to share? You've been dropping hints and said you've "practically revealed it already" when no one had any idea what your claim was. You've wanted to claim since the start of the day. I wanted to claim very much on a personal level...
by BoomFrog
Tue Aug 07, 2018 5:36 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D4)
Replies: 868
Views: 9008

Re: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D2)

@LaserGuy: Do you think BoomFrog is just not trying, or that he's a Godfather or something? Looking more closely, I actually think that it may be that he is avoiding interacting with me personally for some reason. I will endeavor to return the favor. What? Okay, I do recall a quip or two that I ign...
by BoomFrog
Tue Aug 07, 2018 5:06 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D4)
Replies: 868
Views: 9008

Re: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D2)

An insane cop would get a guilty result on a godfather generally. But they are almost never used in the same games.
by BoomFrog
Tue Aug 07, 2018 5:03 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D4)
Replies: 868
Views: 9008

Re: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D2)

and why were you so eager to claim today? I wasn't eager . I've considered it for a long time. Honestly, you're not really paying attention. Yes, you say you were reluctant. But what made you decide to share? You've been dropping hints and said you've "practically revealed it already" whe...
by BoomFrog
Tue Aug 07, 2018 1:16 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D4)
Replies: 868
Views: 9008

Re: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D2)

Wam, laserguy, sabrar, and madgewho would you vote for if you didn't vote for a claimed cop? If we don't lynch Vicarin, I'd probably go for No Lynch at this point. I might do wam in a pinch, but the other options are better IMHO. Why throw away our chance at an extra lynch if we get an extra save? ...
by BoomFrog
Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:42 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D4)
Replies: 868
Views: 9008

Re: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D2)

We can probably find the first two scum in one of these pairings: { bessie , LaserGuy } or { Vicarin , BoomFrog }, ties to the rest of the players is murky so they get the ordered list: Town Mark_Cangila - liking the claim plus good D1 vibes heury - had a town read on him ever since the first line ...
by BoomFrog
Mon Aug 06, 2018 11:58 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D4)
Replies: 868
Views: 9008

Re: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D2)

@heauy: why are you town-reading mpolo?
by BoomFrog
Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:38 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D4)
Replies: 868
Views: 9008

Re: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D2)

Sabrar wrote:Why don't you ask the Doctor why he didn't protect the Cop? Afraid that LaserGuy will claim to be Doc and your whole theory falls apart?

If it looks like you are going to be lynched, and LaserGuy is the doctor then yes he should claim at that time, because the whole thing does fall apart.
by BoomFrog
Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:54 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D4)
Replies: 868
Views: 9008

Re: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D2)

@Bessie: I lost the quote, but I don't think you are naive because naive+insane cop seems too cruel, and naive as only cop seems too weak. Although, town seems fairly strong with 1-2 cops and watcher and tracker, so maybe I should reconsider. I'm getting overloaded with the possibilities to be honest.
by BoomFrog
Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:47 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D4)
Replies: 868
Views: 9008

Re: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D2)

Would sanities be revealed on flip after death?
by BoomFrog
Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:46 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D4)
Replies: 868
Views: 9008

Re: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D2)

Simple. I kill Vicarin. My reasoning is that there must be a mechanic in the game to prevent the classic 'Follow the Cop' strategy to be working, so I assume we would have Strongman. If not then we should have roleblock, or a Framer/other mind-warping power. In that case we use that on Vicarin and ...
by BoomFrog
Mon Aug 06, 2018 5:00 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D4)
Replies: 868
Views: 9008

Re: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D2)

wam wrote:I disagree with the two town cops as if one is scum leaving both alive is exactly what the teammate(s) should be pushing.

That would only fit the data if I or heauy were the teammates. Do you think one of us is?
by BoomFrog
Mon Aug 06, 2018 3:50 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D4)
Replies: 868
Views: 9008

Re: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D2)

Sabrar wrote:
BoomFrog wrote:Who would you have Night killed if you were the mafia?
Who is/are my partner(s) in this hypothetical scenario? Or do I need to give you dozens of answers accounting for every possibility?

For simplicity, let's say LaserGuy.
by BoomFrog
Mon Aug 06, 2018 3:39 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D4)
Replies: 868
Views: 9008

Re: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D2)

EBWOP: And why?
by BoomFrog
Mon Aug 06, 2018 3:38 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D4)
Replies: 868
Views: 9008

Re: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D2)

Also, Sabrar wouldn't withhold to make this claim. More likely the kill was stopped by a roleblock or doctor and he is taking the opportunity to 'confirm' his safeclaim. You don't get to play the 'kill was blocked otherwise' card without proving yourself. Find the person who blocked me or find the ...
by BoomFrog
Mon Aug 06, 2018 3:36 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D4)
Replies: 868
Views: 9008

Re: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D1)

Thank you BoomFrog for setting him straight. lol what? What did you think I meant, BoomFrog? For the record, this exchange D1 is Bessie trying to trip me up by referring to Vic and I having Day Chat. I was sincerely confused but Bessie didn't trust her test. :mrgreen: Anyway, the point is, Bessie w...
by BoomFrog
Mon Aug 06, 2018 3:05 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D4)
Replies: 868
Views: 9008

Re: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D2)

@heauy: Wam is pro lynching Bessie first, that doesn't make sense as a scummate.

Also, Sabrar wouldn't withhold to make this claim. More likely the kill was stopped by a roleblock or doctor and he is taking the opportunity to 'confirm' his safeclaim.
by BoomFrog
Mon Aug 06, 2018 3:00 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D4)
Replies: 868
Views: 9008

Re: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D2)

Also, I should add, the fact that LaserGuy proposed No Lynch, does indicate non-scumness in the two town cops scenario. Which is why I'm not fully satisfied with my conclusions yet.
by BoomFrog
Mon Aug 06, 2018 2:53 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D4)
Replies: 868
Views: 9008

Re: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D2)

Also, Sabrar said he's basically claimed his night result, but I'm not seeing anything resembling that. What in particular did you get? You need to learn to read between the lines . I was Bulletproof. Who would possibly be so cruel as to NK you again N1? Bessie would never do such a thing after 50+...
by BoomFrog
Mon Aug 06, 2018 2:47 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D4)
Replies: 868
Views: 9008

Re: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D2)

The very next read I want to see is from LaserGuy. He had very pointedly avoided drawing any conclusions. This was heavy handed. I'm happy for others to continue speculation about each other, but I want LaserGuy to be the next one to give an opinion about the 2 cops issue. Also, the fact that you p...
by BoomFrog
Mon Aug 06, 2018 2:36 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D4)
Replies: 868
Views: 9008

Re: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D2)

I am also highly suspicious of those advocating leaving both cops alive. Whilst I can see the possibility of an insane cop and a sane cop (I have done the same thing as mod) I think it's a lot less likely than a scum false claim. @boom if you think both are town who are your scum reads. Sabrar for ...
by BoomFrog
Mon Aug 06, 2018 2:29 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D4)
Replies: 868
Views: 9008

Re: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D2)

Sabrar wrote:
Madge wrote:What did I claim that nobody's confirmed?
You claimed that it would be beneficial to us if people would target you.

I really don't think Madge (or anyone else) should be claiming more unless we are doing a full claim. Why would you possibly be pushing her to reveal more?
by BoomFrog
Mon Aug 06, 2018 2:28 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D4)
Replies: 868
Views: 9008

Re: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D2)

Sabrar wrote:
BoomFrog wrote:Anyway, if Vic is mafia his partner is Sabrar or wam, and I think probably Sabrar.
This also applies to you. You of all people here should know my aversion to bussing.

You're right, I didn't consider this connection seriously enough because I think Vic is town. You two are not partners.
by BoomFrog
Mon Aug 06, 2018 2:38 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D4)
Replies: 868
Views: 9008

Re: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D2)

Vicarin wrote:Can always prod him aggressively tomorrow, or let other people do so if I get NKed.

That doesn't make sense. Didn't you say if wam is non-town and another non-town is lynched first then you lose your secondary win?
by BoomFrog
Mon Aug 06, 2018 12:12 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D4)
Replies: 868
Views: 9008

Re: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D2)

Are you suggesting that LaserGuy lied about being roleblocked? No, I'm mostly just can't figure out what result Sabrar could have that indicates there isn't a cult. Even if he knows he prevented the NK somehow that doesn't mean we don't have both Mafia and cult. What do you think of the insane cop ...
by BoomFrog
Mon Aug 06, 2018 12:10 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D4)
Replies: 868
Views: 9008

Re: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D2)

Well, ignoring claims I think you're both town, and in that scenario we mislynches twice more and we've surely lost twenty dollars and my self respect. If one cop is scum and we lynch the correct one, The other dies at night. However, if we don't lynch a cop and a cop isn't NKed we get another resul...
by BoomFrog
Sun Aug 05, 2018 10:07 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D4)
Replies: 868
Views: 9008

Re: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D2)

Does your result preclude LaserGuy being cult leader?
by BoomFrog
Sun Aug 05, 2018 9:52 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D4)
Replies: 868
Views: 9008

Re: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D2)

Let me reconsider, you may have misunderstood my reasoning. I think they are obviously not scummates. It's still theoretically possible Vic is Indy and Bessie is mafia. But that is a truly unlikely set of events. Actually, Vic could be a cult recruit... Not much we can do there. Also, I'm offended a...

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