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Sun Jul 07, 2013 8:56 pm UTC
Forum: Logic Puzzles
Topic: Whose garden has the burgundy roses?
Replies: 41
Views: 17209

### Re: Whose garden has the burgundy roses?

Yeah, ok. I started the solution by combining clues. I only posted the latter part of the solution when I had to start making real deductions. Also, you're right about some of the reference things (I only started notating part way through so I missed some obvious things), but part of it is also how ...
Fri Jul 05, 2013 11:29 pm UTC
Forum: Logic Puzzles
Topic: Whose garden has the burgundy roses?
Replies: 41
Views: 17209

### Re: Whose garden has the burgundy roses?

I've just finished rechecking the puzzle with the worksheet I posted above (see here ), and as I went I wrote out a proof that follows that method. The problem I had with that method (which I did try at first) is that a lot of what we know doesn't fit into easy columns like that. We might know abou...
Fri Jul 05, 2013 9:53 pm UTC
Forum: Logic Puzzles
Topic: Whose garden has the burgundy roses?
Replies: 41
Views: 17209

### Re: Whose garden has the burgundy roses?

So, I've been cleaning up my proof making it all neat and easy to follow for posting and I realised that it's possible to leave solving the ages for the very, very last step. As in you solve for ages and know that
Spoiler:
Amelia has burgundy roses
. Feeling kinda silly now.
Tue Jul 02, 2013 7:22 am UTC
Forum: Logic Puzzles
Topic: Whose garden has the burgundy roses?
Replies: 41
Views: 17209

### Re: Whose garden has the burgundy roses?

What about this? The only values of n that satisfy all these conditions are 17 and 19, making the following tuples for (Tim, cream, leftover, lavender): (34, 44, 22, 22) (38, 48, 14, 24) If a 14-year-old owns a house, they probably belong in either Hollywood or Child Protect...
Tue Jul 02, 2013 2:23 am UTC
Forum: Logic Puzzles
Topic: Whose garden has the burgundy roses?
Replies: 41
Views: 17209

### Re: Whose garden has the burgundy roses?

I really want to sit down and solve the puzzle again so I can try to figure out what you're missing, but I've been working a lot and simply don't have the time. The best I can do for now is try to find anything wrong with your proof (or ways to eliminate more options) to help you out. Immediately, ...
Mon Jul 01, 2013 4:53 pm UTC
Forum: Logic Puzzles
Topic: Whose garden has the burgundy roses?
Replies: 41
Views: 17209

### Re: Whose garden has the burgundy roses?

Ok, here it is and I'm fairly sure it's all correct this time. I'm also now pretty sure that Age proof: I'm keeping this separate both because it's long, and because I tackled this in the middle of my other proof because I assumed that ThirdParty had solved the puzzle correctly. ThirdParty said that...
Sun Jun 30, 2013 6:32 pm UTC
Forum: Logic Puzzles
Topic: Whose garden has the burgundy roses?
Replies: 41
Views: 17209

### Re: Whose garden has the burgundy roses?

This is not true; you made mistakes in the third and fourth lines. You reference this mistake repeatedly throughout your proof ("Lavender =/ 31, because Cream would be 62 and 62 minus 10 is not equal to 62 divided by 2" etc.) Wow, yeah, that's bad. I'm looking at my original notes and I'm...
Sun Jun 30, 2013 12:58 pm UTC
Forum: Logic Puzzles
Topic: Whose garden has the burgundy roses?
Replies: 41
Views: 17209

### Re: Whose garden has the burgundy roses?

Okay, I've gone over all my notes and I'm posting my proof. I'm more than willing to concede that I screwed up somewhere though (probably more than I caught). My previous post about ages had some incorrect information because when I was solving for lavender I solved for lavender using C/2 on one pag...
Fri Jun 28, 2013 10:40 pm UTC
Forum: Logic Puzzles
Topic: Whose garden has the burgundy roses?
Replies: 41
Views: 17209

### Re: Solvable through straight deduction?

The puzzle is definitely solvable (as ThirdParty and Garzahd1 have shown), and has one unique answer. Prior to posting it I deliberately tested and confirmed those two aspects by two different solution techniques, and I've also verified the outcome since. The puzzle can be solved through straight d...
Sat Jun 01, 2013 1:37 pm UTC
Forum: Language/Linguistics
Topic: Begging the Question
Replies: 19
Views: 10849

### Re: Begging the Question

You and I obviously have very different definitions of specificity if you think some is lost when the exact same thing can be specified in the same number of words even if this phrase does stop being used for the fallacy. I do not object to your opinion, you're perfectly entitled to it. What I do o...
Sat Jun 01, 2013 11:19 am UTC
Forum: Language/Linguistics
Topic: Begging the Question
Replies: 19
Views: 10849

### Re: Begging the Question

I just demonstrated that the "lovely precision" of the old meaning of beg the question is not lost so it is irrelevant to the discussion. Furthermore, statements to do with "watering down the language" and changes occurring due to "laziness" are so nebulous and subject...
Sat Jun 01, 2013 10:42 am UTC
Forum: Language/Linguistics
Topic: Words you choose to mispronounce
Replies: 242
Views: 93488

### Re: Words you choose to mispronounce

Erm, I think that your aesthetic concerns may be due to a misspelling. The word is flautist and is pronounced (at least in RP, I can't really generalise) with an /ɔː/ not an /aʊ̯/ (the vowel in bought not the vowel in flout). Interestingly, the word flout's etymology is uncertain, but it has been s...
Sat Jun 01, 2013 10:38 am UTC
Forum: Language/Linguistics
Topic: Begging the Question
Replies: 19
Views: 10849

### Re: Begging the Question

We haven't lost anything. Begging the question is a type of circular reasoning described as such. If you want to be more specific, you can just say that someone's assuming the conclusion or if you really want to be fancy, you can call it petitio principii. What you call it doesn't matter, but we ce...
Sat Jun 01, 2013 9:47 am UTC
Forum: Language/Linguistics
Topic: Begging the Question
Replies: 19
Views: 10849

### Re: Begging the Question

Begging the question means something very distinct, and so if we give up and say "sure, it means raises the question now" then we're losing a great phrase with specific usage. And we don't need "begging the question" to mean "raises the question" because we can say &quo...
Sat Jun 01, 2013 9:34 am UTC
Forum: Language/Linguistics
Topic: Words you choose to mispronounce
Replies: 242
Views: 93488

### Re: Words you choose to mispronounce

I pronounce floutist flautist (thanks for the correction eSOANEM) as Flute - ist instead of Flout - ist. It's just such an ugly word if you pronounce it properly. Floutist would be a wonderful word if it was describing someone who flouted things, but it's not and I haven't found occasion to ...
Sat Jun 01, 2013 9:25 am UTC
Forum: Language/Linguistics
Topic: Size-based intensity for written laughs
Replies: 13
Views: 8871

### Re: Size-based intensity for written laughs

This is a fascinating question and I'm not sure if my answer will help, but here it is. I rarely actually type out haha or anything like that. If I find something funny I'll say so, but if it's funny enough to make me physically laugh out loud then I'm not typing, I'm laughing. When I stop laughing ...
Sat Jun 01, 2013 8:54 am UTC
Forum: Logic Puzzles
Topic: Whose garden has the burgundy roses?
Replies: 41
Views: 17209

### Solvable through straight deduction?

Ok, I've been over my notes several times and I don't think this is solvable. Not that there's not one unique answer (though I'm not entirely sure that there is) but that I don't have enough information to find it using straight deduction. I'd have to plug and play a lot of stuff in some very long c...
Sat Jun 01, 2013 1:01 am UTC
Forum: Logic Puzzles
Topic: Whose garden has the burgundy roses?
Replies: 41
Views: 17209

### Re: Whose garden has the burgundy roses?

Here's my excel chart for anyone starting with this. I've organised it so that you can see all the parameters you're working with at once and so that you can tag information as you go. It's also got a colour coding system set-up for men and women. Not sure how much help it will be. I made it after g...
Mon May 27, 2013 3:03 am UTC
Forum: Logic Puzzles
Topic: Whose garden has the burgundy roses?
Replies: 41
Views: 17209

### Re: Whose garden has the burgundy roses?

Are there any limits on the unknown parameters aside from the fact that they must be unique? Meaning, can someone leave for work at 2am or 8pm? Can they only be away from there house for 30mins? Can one of the ages be 1? Because I'm stuck. And sure, I could be missing something obvious. That's alway...