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by Quercus
Mon Oct 09, 2017 6:36 am UTC
Forum: General
Topic: Stuff about poverty, race, etc., split from Trump presidency thread in N&A
Replies: 76
Views: 2390

Re: Stuff about poverty, race, etc., split from Trump presidency thread in N&A

Yes, I gave you evidence. List of every socialist country, or really, every country that had ever called themselves socialist. Almost entirely shitholes. When it comes to figuring out the best countries, try to look at things like life expectancy , infant mortality , etc. The best ones are predomin...
by Quercus
Fri Oct 06, 2017 6:23 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 3625
Views: 228554

Re: Trump presidency

On the basis that it counts as publishing for libel purposes I'd say probably yes
by Quercus
Fri Oct 06, 2017 2:49 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 3625
Views: 228554

Re: Trump presidency

Does the Democratic party actually have the funds to contest every race? I've always heard financial constraints as a reason that slim chances aren't contested by them.
by Quercus
Fri Oct 06, 2017 8:52 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 3625
Views: 228554

Re: Trump presidency

While Destructo Child is clearly unfit for the presidency, the R base is the actual problem. A solid third of the country wants what the White House is giving them. How does one deal with that? By which I mean mostly, how does one try to keep oppressed groups protected under those circumstances: wh...
by Quercus
Mon Oct 02, 2017 4:48 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Police misbehavior thread
Replies: 5414
Views: 743645

Re: Police misbehavior thread

The officers in question did not deny the sexual acts occurred, but both claimed they were consensual, according to the New York Daily News. What the actual fuck. It's surely impossible to gain meaningful sexual consent from someone that you are actively detaining (since at that point the p...
by Quercus
Mon Sep 25, 2017 4:33 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Antifa & neo-Nazi Ned in: "Too Many Violence?"
Replies: 398
Views: 15046

Re: Antifa & neo-Nazi Ned in: "Too Many Violence?"

In other words, would you support making genocide-promotion illegal and have the government perform that violence on your behalf? Or again in other words, is the only reason you're promoting this violence now because you believe the government is not willing to change and enforce that law? That's c...
by Quercus
Mon Sep 25, 2017 3:45 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Antifa & neo-Nazi Ned in: "Too Many Violence?"
Replies: 398
Views: 15046

Re: Antifa & neo-Nazi Ned in: "Too Many Violence?"

...the reason I've been bringing up constitutional fetishism is the assumption I see often that the current state of the Constitution has got everything exactly right... I don't see that assumption made. What I see is respect for the thought that went into those original documents That's encouragin...
by Quercus
Mon Sep 25, 2017 3:10 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Antifa & neo-Nazi Ned in: "Too Many Violence?"
Replies: 398
Views: 15046

Re: Antifa & neo-Nazi Ned in: "Too Many Violence?"

Along those lines, I don't think it's at all fair to dismiss the widespread US distrust toward speech restrictions as "constitutional fetishism." Nazis are an extreme case and the things they say are vile, and they cannot be allowed to achieve any of their goals. It's a moral quandary for...
by Quercus
Sun Sep 24, 2017 6:36 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Antifa & neo-Nazi Ned in: "Too Many Violence?"
Replies: 398
Views: 15046

Re: Antifa & neo-Nazi Ned in: "Too Many Violence?"

Wouldn't 'Hey there's a nazi gathering going down at X, please send a swat team.' also warrant a full response? Is genocidal hate speech just too big to be believable? I'm sorta not understanding why nazism =/= terrorism. Genocidal hate speech isn't illegal in the US, and support for changing the f...
by Quercus
Thu Sep 21, 2017 7:05 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: In other news... (humorous news items)
Replies: 14040
Views: 1925972

Re: In other news... (humorous news items)

ObsessoMom wrote:There ought to be some sort of award for the wordsmith who crafted that eloquence, but I'm not sure if it should go to the police or to the reporter.


Free lifetime membership of tautology club?
by Quercus
Wed Sep 20, 2017 2:41 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Antifa & neo-Nazi Ned in: "Too Many Violence?"
Replies: 398
Views: 15046

Re: Antifa & neo-Nazi Ned in: "Too Many Violence?"

That makes sense to me, Quercus...except that many, if not all, white nationalists seem to sincerely believe that their race is the target of an actual, systematic genocide (now or in the future), and therefore the violence in their ends and means is justified, from their perspective, because they ...
by Quercus
Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:01 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Antifa & neo-Nazi Ned in: "Too Many Violence?"
Replies: 398
Views: 15046

Re: Antifa & neo-Nazi Ned in: "Too Many Violence?"

If the following conditions are met: a) A white nationalist or group of white nationalists promotes their views in a way that is likely to pose a credible threat of violence against others (which given their views encompasses most ways apart from vague wishing) b) The normal mechanisms of state-con...
by Quercus
Tue Sep 19, 2017 9:59 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Antifa & neo-Nazi Ned in: "Too Many Violence?"
Replies: 398
Views: 15046

Re: Antifa & neo-Nazi Ned in: "Too Many Violence?"

Okay. Now my understanding is there are those in this thread that believe violence against white nationalists is justified. Does this mean that if someone tweets "I wish all blacks would go back to Africa and leave America for the white race", violence is now justified against them? I'm n...
by Quercus
Wed Sep 13, 2017 6:50 pm UTC
Forum: Food
Topic: Today I Made:
Replies: 4154
Views: 684259

Re: Today I Made:

Fig and peanut energy balls. Given the price of those bounce things, I must have achieved at least a five fold price reduction, even factoring in my time. Interesting texture - crumbly out of the blender, but became putty-like as soon as pressure was applied to form into balls. Quite a dramatic shift.
by Quercus
Tue Sep 12, 2017 5:45 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: In other news... (humorous news items)
Replies: 14040
Views: 1925972

Re: In other news... (humorous news items)

The continued obsession with Princess Diana's death is so odd, I can't think of another case quite like it. Kurt Cobain maybe? Prince Albert? Elvis? JFK? Jesus? Yeah. That's true. Add Marilyn Munroe to that list too. Okay then, I'll amend my comment to the obsession with celebrity death in general ...
by Quercus
Tue Sep 12, 2017 4:50 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: In other news... (humorous news items)
Replies: 14040
Views: 1925972

Re: In other news... (humorous news items)

The continued obsession with Princess Diana's death is so odd, I can't think of another case quite like it. Kurt Cobain maybe? Prince Albert?
by Quercus
Fri Sep 08, 2017 11:09 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: In other news... (humorous news items)
Replies: 14040
Views: 1925972

Re: In other news... (humorous news items)

Deva wrote:No. Owns no firearms, flamethrowers, or lasers.


Due to the demise of optical storage media that might actually be true.
by Quercus
Thu Sep 07, 2017 4:47 pm UTC
Forum: Forum Games
Topic: Can you produce [X] in less than 15 seconds?
Replies: 7118
Views: 520849

Re: Can you produce [X] in less than 15 seconds?

Yes. A bottle of it in a kitchen cupboard, for rinsing off lens cloths after cleaning, to ensure they don't get scratchy mineral deposits on them

A lens cloth/tissue?
by Quercus
Mon Sep 04, 2017 11:00 am UTC
Forum: Movies and TV Shows
Topic: Game of Thrones: The TV Show (novelisation coming soon)
Replies: 2096
Views: 270659

Re: Game of Thrones: The TV Show (novelisation coming soon)

@Chen Not convinced she considers Tyrion a Lannister so, well, Jaime being the stupidest Lannister isn't too big a stressed I'm not sure that Cersei ever considered Tyrion stupid, just evil and treacherous There was an unfinished story with Benjen but just meeting up for a moment is no sort...
by Quercus
Sat Sep 02, 2017 12:29 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Antifa & neo-Nazi Ned in: "Too Many Violence?"
Replies: 398
Views: 15046

Re: Trump presidency

Also, antifa contains rather a lot of anarchists. It's not a very big surprise that a centralised government opposes and denigrates anarchist movements by whatever means they can. Regardless of the level of threat they represent to individuals, they are an openly avowed threat to the institution of ...
by Quercus
Fri Sep 01, 2017 12:04 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Police misbehavior thread
Replies: 5414
Views: 743645

Re: Police misbehavior thread

You need to correct for populations if you want to compare the homicide rate with the absolute number of police killings. Bollocks, so I do. For some reason I was under the impression that the police killing numbers were normalised to populations, but they aren't. Ignore everything I just wrote abo...
by Quercus
Fri Sep 01, 2017 9:45 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Police misbehavior thread
Replies: 5414
Views: 743645

Re: Police misbehavior thread

Lets see, the intentional homicide rate in the US is 4.88 per 100,000, compared to 1.68 for Canada, 0.92 for UK, and 0.85 for Germany. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate So yes, the US is a violent, dangerous bunch and more of us need shot than Germans. Eve...
by Quercus
Fri Aug 25, 2017 1:12 pm UTC
Forum: Movies and TV Shows
Topic: Game of Thrones: The TV Show (novelisation coming soon)
Replies: 2096
Views: 270659

Re: Game of Thrones: The TV Show (novelisation coming soon)

I'm a bit behind, but still wanted to nitpick about episode 1 :) Why the hell is Dragonstone abandoned? Like, nobody is there at all. Yeah, I get that Stannis is meant to have up and left with his whole army for the Wall in season 4, but unless you have gone completely insane you still leave a small...
by Quercus
Fri Aug 18, 2017 9:42 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 3625
Views: 228554

Re: Trump presidency

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/8/18/16169980/arts-and-humanities-committee-resigns-trump-resist The President's committee on the Arts and Humanities has resigned en masse. All seventeen of them. Their letter of resignation spells out the word RESIST in the first letters of it's paragra...
by Quercus
Fri Aug 18, 2017 8:20 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 3625
Views: 228554

Re: Trump presidency

http://www.newsweek.com/breitbart-declares-war-trump-after-bannons-white-house-exit-652245 Oh this gonna be good. I was expecting that Bannon / Breitbart was going to stay pro-Trump after the firing. But I'm (pleasantly) surprised that Mr. Trump is beginning to be branded a "liberal cuck"...
by Quercus
Fri Aug 18, 2017 6:18 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 3625
Views: 228554

Re: Trump presidency

Forgive my foreigners ignorance, but is affirmative action considered a bad thing now? Pretty sure it always has been by some circles. It depends what they mean by "consider". If they mean always inviting an ethnic minority candidate to interview, then I'm pretty sure that would be illega...
by Quercus
Thu Aug 17, 2017 10:11 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 3625
Views: 228554

Re: Trump presidency

Yeah, now that it's a national news topic with the President commenting on it, it's far too late to ignore it. I wouldn't be here talking about it if it were still in the "just ignore them" phrase. I was speaking on general principle as applied to the counter-protestors who were there on ...
by Quercus
Thu Aug 17, 2017 9:49 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 3625
Views: 228554

Re: Trump presidency

CorruptUser wrote:why can't Nazis beat the crap out of me because they "know" they are right?

They can, and they do.
by Quercus
Thu Aug 17, 2017 8:23 pm UTC
Forum: Forum Games
Topic: Can you produce [X] in less than 15 seconds?
Replies: 7118
Views: 520849

Re: Can you produce [X] in less than 15 seconds?

Only an electronic one on my phone (but it's actually stored locally in the memory of my phone, so I think it should still count)

Something colder than 0 oC


Argh! The page-turn bug strikes again. Sorry. Disregard.
by Quercus
Thu Aug 17, 2017 8:01 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 3625
Views: 228554

Re: Trump presidency

Yeah, you're one of the other people who keeps wanting to change the topic and argue against "punching Nazis should always be legal" strawmen. No? I'm trying to get a proper legal framework for "punching Nazis should be legal" that doesn't also create precedent for "punchin...
by Quercus
Wed Aug 16, 2017 9:14 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 3625
Views: 228554

Re: Trump presidency

Virginia State Police Say They Didn't Find Caches of Weapons in Charlottesville Jesus, you guys had me scared for a while. Yeah that was in the twitter thread Belial linked. Very reassuring... The governor of Virginia just irresponsibly sparked unnecessary fear at a volatile moment, and fed Preside...
by Quercus
Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:21 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 3625
Views: 228554

Re: Trump presidency

Also hey everybody should read this Yep. That definitely counts as copious quantities of shit hitting the fan. For those who didn't read that here's a summary from the guardian . Virginia governor Terry McAuliffe revealed on Monday that the far right activists had hidden caches of weapons around th...
by Quercus
Wed Aug 16, 2017 7:22 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 3625
Views: 228554

Re: Trump presidency

He's not calling for people to die, he's calling for... well people to be white. I'm not sure how you get to a stage where people in the USA are all white without most of the black and brown people dying. Either directly, or when wherever they get forcibly deported to (which most definitely counts ...
by Quercus
Wed Aug 16, 2017 7:05 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 3625
Views: 228554

Re: Trump presidency

The Charlottesville crowd attacked a prayer meeting and later they marched on a predominantly black neighborhood. It's probably safe to assume, given all the beatings and sticks, that they weren't going there to sell cookies. The residents of those neighborhoods and antifa fighters turned them back...
by Quercus
Wed Aug 16, 2017 4:28 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 3625
Views: 228554

Re: Trump presidency

CorruptUser wrote:And as long as they don't advocate violence right now, it's legal. So then, how do you stop it?

From an external perspective you lose the USA's fucking first amendment fetishism and make hate speech a crime. Given that that's not likely to happen, fucked if I know.
by Quercus
Wed Aug 16, 2017 4:01 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 3625
Views: 228554

Re: Trump presidency

If people who think sodomy or atheism are worthy of death became the majority, you would be very happy to have that basic level of protection. If such people became the majority we would not have that protection or any other for very long, and it is, IMO, an utterly ludicrous fantasy to suppose tha...
by Quercus
Wed Aug 16, 2017 3:04 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 3625
Views: 228554

Re: Trump presidency

...but we're talking about hunting down {fill-in} because they are a {fill-in}, not because they did {bad thing}. As to the non-equivalence of being born gay (or black) vs adopting an ideology, ok, fair enough. Change "gay" in my example to "Christian" or "Muslim"; bot...
by Quercus
Wed Aug 16, 2017 10:45 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Police misbehavior thread
Replies: 5414
Views: 743645

Re: Police misbehavior thread

If you're trying to argue there's a meaningful difference, it might be helpful to specify what country you're talking about and give a specific example of the kind of law you're talking about then. Ah, sorry - I mentioned in a previous comment that I was talking about the Crown Prosecution Service ...
by Quercus
Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:22 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Police misbehavior thread
Replies: 5414
Views: 743645

Re: Police misbehavior thread

The U.S. has this under the broad umbrella of prosecutorial discretion, which also lets you consider the likelihood the case will succeed and how much it will cost to do so. True, but the pertinent difference for me is that prosecutorial discretion (if I've understood it correctly) lets prosecutors...
by Quercus
Mon Aug 14, 2017 8:07 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Police misbehavior thread
Replies: 5414
Views: 743645

Re: Police misbehavior thread

This is (if applied properly) one of the advantages of the "public interest" test for UK criminal prosecutions, which actually bakes these sort of cases into judicial procedure. Basically if the Crown Prosecution Service (roughly the equivalent of state or federal prosecutors offices) deci...

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