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by aph
Tue Nov 08, 2016 9:39 pm UTC
Forum: Science
Topic: The Future of The Brain (2014)
Replies: 55
Views: 3920

Re: The Future of The Brain (2014)

Do you have a background in computer science? If so, are you familiar with the idea of programs that work in isolation, but break down in the wild? Mother nature goes in the opposite direction: Her code operates in the wild, but breaks down in isolation. Because her code relies on pre-existing code...
by aph
Tue Nov 08, 2016 9:22 pm UTC
Forum: Science
Topic: The Future of The Brain (2014)
Replies: 55
Views: 3920

Re: The Future of The Brain (2014)

Yeah, I really don't know why I'm still bothering - exchanges with you underline that you aren't capable of a scientific discourse, as if the last 4 threads didn't already make that point. Females love aggressive scientific discourse. Is it your reproductive period? I think you may be displaying; t...
by aph
Mon Nov 07, 2016 8:58 pm UTC
Forum: Science
Topic: The Future of The Brain (2014)
Replies: 55
Views: 3920

Re: The Future of The Brain (2014)

Your capacity to cherry pick at this point is actually better than your ability to proffer pet theories. Perhaps look to the sentence AFTER the one you quoted? The structure is: if you're saying A, that is trivial. If you're saying B, that is silly. I'm saying A, so I'm quoting A. It is a two choic...
by aph
Mon Nov 07, 2016 7:34 pm UTC
Forum: Science
Topic: The Future of The Brain (2014)
Replies: 55
Views: 3920

Re: The Future of The Brain (2014)

Those simpler brains were also produced by 4 billion years of aggressive optimization running in parallel in every cell of every living organism that's ever existed. Again: You think a computer programmer can simulate that ? Yes, definitely. In fact, we're pretty close to simulating the entire c. e...
by aph
Mon Nov 07, 2016 7:03 pm UTC
Forum: Science
Topic: The Future of The Brain (2014)
Replies: 55
Views: 3920

Re: The Future of The Brain (2014)

An interesting chapter is one by Matteo Carandini: A fundamental mandate of neuroscience is to reveal how neural circuits lead to perception, thought, and ultimately behavior. The general public might think this goal is already achieved: when a news report says that a behavior is associated with som...
by aph
Mon Nov 07, 2016 5:59 pm UTC
Forum: Science
Topic: The Future of The Brain (2014)
Replies: 55
Views: 3920

Re: The Future of The Brain (2014)

Einstein was also a certified physics and mathematics teacher from Zürich Polytechnic. Out of those two datapoints -- 'patent clerk', and 'physicist' -- which strikes you as the most relevant regarding his discoveries in physics? If you have no other datapoints, sure, you can look at someones backg...
by aph
Sun Nov 06, 2016 2:53 pm UTC
Forum: Science
Topic: The Future of The Brain (2014)
Replies: 55
Views: 3920

Re: The Future of The Brain (2014)

gmalivuk wrote:No one thinks of Izawwlgood as any kind of rock star or rockstar analogue in "these parts"

Oh, I'm trolling a bit, it was on the previous topic, this post. See how if I don't care to find out what he thinks, I don't care about 'actual science'. I love that line.
by aph
Sun Nov 06, 2016 2:34 pm UTC
Forum: Science
Topic: The Future of The Brain (2014)
Replies: 55
Views: 3920

Re: The Future of The Brain (2014)

And the human brain? That's more complex than a magnet by several orders of magnitude! The chances of you telling us something about human brains that neuroscientists don't already know is breathtakingly remote! Like the chances of a monkey typing out the Odyssey. Sure. That is why the chances that...
by aph
Sun Nov 06, 2016 11:19 am UTC
Forum: Science
Topic: The Future of The Brain (2014)
Replies: 55
Views: 3920

Re: The Future of The Brain (2014)

Basically, a physicist can't explain to you why magnets attract/repel other magnets unless you're willing to take the time to also become a physicist. And the functionality of the brain is extraordinarily more complex than the functionality of a magnet. When a neuroscientist talks about things like...
by aph
Sun Nov 06, 2016 11:02 am UTC
Forum: Science
Topic: The Future of The Brain (2014)
Replies: 55
Views: 3920

Re: The Future of The Brain (2014)

I think this is the *5th* thread you've started on the same topic, and they all go the same way. You should maybe reread them for a hint at why I at least would be frustrated and not particularly interested in being patient and polite. Don't tone police when frankly at this point it's easy to see w...
by aph
Sat Nov 05, 2016 8:50 pm UTC
Forum: Science
Topic: The Future of The Brain (2014)
Replies: 55
Views: 3920

Re: The Future of The Brain (2014)

And IIRC, we discussed how despite finding a WHOLE ENTIRE BOOK that didn't say we know nothing about the brain, and pointing you towards whole fields of study on brains, you somehow managed to simultaneously admit that you had a lot to learn, that you didn't trust what was known because you were su...
by aph
Sat Nov 05, 2016 3:56 pm UTC
Forum: Science
Topic: The Future of The Brain (2014)
Replies: 55
Views: 3920

Re: The Future of The Brain (2014)

No, I'm just saying you should go suck a bag of nuts. If this is how you're going to react when your ideas are criticized, perhaps this isn't the forum for you? Oh, the drama... You could take that as a literal bag of nuts, though. Also, you haven't noticed how this book talks about neuroscience no...
by aph
Sat Nov 05, 2016 2:12 pm UTC
Forum: Science
Topic: The Future of The Brain (2014)
Replies: 55
Views: 3920

Re: The Future of The Brain (2014)

Copper Bezel wrote: I can't imagine what they're like for Izawwlgood, since he actually knows what we're talking about.

I imagine he is suffering.
It is fine, my child. You tried.
by aph
Sat Nov 05, 2016 12:36 pm UTC
Forum: Science
Topic: The Future of The Brain (2014)
Replies: 55
Views: 3920

Re: The Future of The Brain (2014)

The idea that principles of motor control are preserved across species is more general then specifying which theory of motor control explains it all. There is no smack in that. Of course, I believe it is this specific theory I might have mentioned once or twice, but not yet here, and not in the last...
by aph
Fri Nov 04, 2016 9:06 pm UTC
Forum: Science
Topic: The Future of The Brain (2014)
Replies: 55
Views: 3920

Re: The Future of The Brain (2014)

Well, either way, Feynman is being quoted because even in neuroscience, or in science in general, building computational / mathematical models of processes is the linchpin of understanding. Or at least, that is what a whole bunch of computational neuroscientist and AI people think.
by aph
Fri Nov 04, 2016 6:51 pm UTC
Forum: Science
Topic: The Future of The Brain (2014)
Replies: 55
Views: 3920

Re: The Future of The Brain (2014)

Ok, maybe I do like Feynman a bit too much.
by aph
Fri Nov 04, 2016 6:29 pm UTC
Forum: Science
Topic: The Future of The Brain (2014)
Replies: 55
Views: 3920

Re: The Future of The Brain (2014)

No, I'm just saying you should go suck a bag of nuts. The topic is the book in the title, and "the future of the brain" theories. I don't care much about your opinion about my opinions about the nervous system or theories or feckin feynman.
by aph
Fri Nov 04, 2016 5:16 pm UTC
Forum: Science
Topic: The Future of The Brain (2014)
Replies: 55
Views: 3920

Re: The Future of The Brain (2014)

But, hilariously - [..] Yes! I concur that using model organisms have yielded enormously useful insight into 'the ways things work'! Indeed, my PhD used Drosophila to do just that, indeed, asking numerous questions, and here's the kicker - some even about the behavior of motor neurons. So hilarious...
by aph
Fri Nov 04, 2016 1:11 am UTC
Forum: Science
Topic: The Future of The Brain (2014)
Replies: 55
Views: 3920

Re: The Future of The Brain (2014)

Maybe? I'm not following your train of associations there. There are some common principles in NS topology and function across animal species, so possibly also computationally similar processes are happening, particularly in (or to start with) low-level movement circuits. You make an arena, let the ...
by aph
Thu Nov 03, 2016 8:47 pm UTC
Forum: Science
Topic: The Future of The Brain (2014)
Replies: 55
Views: 3920

Re: The Future of The Brain (2014)

Oh, this again. Oh, piss off. It is probably because of papers like this one [url]http://www.cell.com/current-biology/pdf/S0960-9822(16)30744-8.pdf [/url] The ability of animals to flexibly navigate through complex environments depends on the integration of sensory information with motor commands. ...
by aph
Thu Nov 03, 2016 8:00 pm UTC
Forum: Science
Topic: The Future of The Brain (2014)
Replies: 55
Views: 3920

Re: The Future of The Brain (2014)

There are very small brains that do qualitatively similar things to large brains As far as I'm aware, we have small brains that do small brain stuff, like image recognition. And we have our large brains that can also do small brain stuff. But the interesting parts of psychology are those where our ...
by aph
Wed Nov 02, 2016 8:08 pm UTC
Forum: Hardware
Topic: Stopping my Laptop from Over Heating
Replies: 17
Views: 2105

Re: Stopping my Laptop from Over Heating

jewish_scientist wrote:UPDATE: I decided to open it up and remove any dust I found. To my complete surprise, I could not find any dust. Even more surprising, I could not find the fan!

That's strange. What model is it?
by aph
Wed Nov 02, 2016 4:14 pm UTC
Forum: Science
Topic: The Future of The Brain (2014)
Replies: 55
Views: 3920

Re: The Future of The Brain (2014)

There are very small brains that do qualitatively similar things to large brains, produce very similar behaviors in possibly similar ways, so I wouldn't agree completely on irreducibly of complexity. Nervous systems of fruit fly larvae or adult fruit flies in many ways resemble mammalian systems, th...
by aph
Tue Nov 01, 2016 5:35 pm UTC
Forum: Hardware
Topic: Stopping my Laptop from Over Heating
Replies: 17
Views: 2105

Re: Stopping my Laptop from Over Heating

You might also need to replace the thermoconductive paste between the processor and the cooler. If you feel brave and adventurous, there are a ton of disassembly videos on youtube. Bing your model + disassemble, then clean it and change the paste. Should hold for a year or so.
by aph
Tue Nov 01, 2016 2:36 pm UTC
Forum: Science
Topic: The Future of The Brain (2014)
Replies: 55
Views: 3920

The Future of The Brain (2014)

The title refers to this book: https://www.amazon.com/Future-Brain-Essays-Leading-Neuroscientists/dp/069116276X Subtitle: Essays by the World's Leading Neuroscientists I found it echoing a lot of the stuff I believe, and wrote about last time, but these people say it in a nicer way. Here is the firs...
by aph
Tue Nov 01, 2016 11:44 am UTC
Forum: General
Topic: XKCD, where they talk shit about you in a secret subforum
Replies: 150
Views: 15008

Re: XKCD, where they talk shit about you in a secret subforum

PeteP wrote:I suppose it might in the sense that it brings attention to the thread so theoretically others that think you are talking nonsense might comment because of it.

Yup, something like that.
by aph
Tue Nov 01, 2016 11:22 am UTC
Forum: General
Topic: XKCD, where they talk shit about you in a secret subforum
Replies: 150
Views: 15008

Re: XKCD, where they talk shit about you in a secret subforum

No, I literally just found a bunch of comments about the stuff I wrote, that is the 'meta discussion' I was referring to.
by aph
Tue Nov 01, 2016 6:54 am UTC
Forum: General
Topic: XKCD, where they talk shit about you in a secret subforum
Replies: 150
Views: 15008

Re: XKCD, where they talk shit about you in a secret subforum

From their point of view, sure. From mine, it is a meta discussion I kinda knew was happening, but didn't think I'd see.
by aph
Tue Nov 01, 2016 5:59 am UTC
Forum: General
Topic: XKCD, where they talk shit about you in a secret subforum
Replies: 150
Views: 15008

Re: XKCD, where they talk shit about you in a secret subforum

Oooh. I thought some of the people I discussed with knew each other in RL, or had PM chats about the discussions, because it felt they had weirdly similar opinions. This is like getting a peek into their PMs.
by aph
Wed May 04, 2016 4:34 pm UTC
Forum: Science
Topic: List of All Laws of Nature
Replies: 199
Views: 18181

Re: List of All Laws of Nature

@Soupspoon, thanks!

@PAstrychef & gmalivuk, That is an interesting interpretation of the bold. No further comment. :D
by aph
Wed May 04, 2016 3:29 pm UTC
Forum: Science
Topic: List of All Laws of Nature
Replies: 199
Views: 18181

Re: List of All Laws of Nature

No, the claim is we don't understand even the very basic principles of information transfer in the nervous systems That's an even more moronic claim than the one I thought you were making. Again, depending on what level of detail you want to look, you are demonstrably and factually wrong in this st...
by aph
Wed May 04, 2016 2:10 pm UTC
Forum: Science
Topic: List of All Laws of Nature
Replies: 199
Views: 18181

Re: List of All Laws of Nature

If someone claims to *fully* understand life, he better show up with abiogenesis. And yet, you're the only person around her talking about *fully* understanding anything. Honestly, I think you have a difficult time with nuance - you continually talk about how little we know, and frame it as an issu...
by aph
Wed May 04, 2016 1:47 pm UTC
Forum: Science
Topic: List of All Laws of Nature
Replies: 199
Views: 18181

Re: List of All Laws of Nature

In that case, building a simulation , which is just a mathematical model, will be good enough proof. How good does the simulation need to be? Keep in mind that, despite having known about Newtonian gravitation for centuries, we still can't perfectly simulate the behavior of three or more mutually g...
by aph
Wed May 04, 2016 12:57 pm UTC
Forum: Science
Topic: List of All Laws of Nature
Replies: 199
Views: 18181

Re: List of All Laws of Nature

So, clearly Venter has grabbed three quotes by inspirational people, and popped them into his watermarking tech in his synthetic organisms. Indeed, the Feynmann quote is apropos here, though hardly indicative of Venter believing it's impossible to understand something unless he built it. It's a cut...
by aph
Tue May 03, 2016 6:07 pm UTC
Forum: Science
Topic: List of All Laws of Nature
Replies: 199
Views: 18181

Re: List of All Laws of Nature

(I edited the above post to include Venter) This is a terrible criteria towards understanding things in many (if not all!) biological systems. We can understand a great deal about a cell irrespective of our capacity to build one (from scratch?), and our ability to create synthetic organisms doesn't ...
by aph
Tue May 03, 2016 3:26 pm UTC
Forum: Science
Topic: List of All Laws of Nature
Replies: 199
Views: 18181

Re: List of All Laws of Nature

Yeah, Feynman used an interesting criterion of 'understanding a phenomenon' in science: if you can't build it, you don't understand it. It was mentioned in the context of particular laws - if you can derive a law describing some specific phenomenon from more basic laws (you can build the specific la...
by aph
Tue May 03, 2016 1:05 pm UTC
Forum: Science
Topic: List of All Laws of Nature
Replies: 199
Views: 18181

Re: List of All Laws of Nature

As I've mentioned, there is a possible analogy between Galileo's telescopes and neuroscience's new imaging tools - with his telescope, he observed some very interesting phenomena like Saturn's rings, Jupiter's moons, Sun spots, Moon mountains and so on. Other astronomers also collected data about th...
by aph
Tue May 03, 2016 12:19 pm UTC
Forum: Science
Topic: List of All Laws of Nature
Replies: 199
Views: 18181

Re: List of All Laws of Nature

While the research into things that are classically 'psychiatry' get published in psychiatric journals, I know that neurologists do work on researching them, and as we get a better understanding of how best to treat these conditions, they may well merge into the domain of neurology. Currently the b...
by aph
Sun May 01, 2016 9:47 pm UTC
Forum: Science
Topic: List of All Laws of Nature
Replies: 199
Views: 18181

Re: List of All Laws of Nature

Oh, no linky linky? Last time you said the difference between neurology and neuroscience was a verbal quibble, and now you seem to be mixing research and clinical practice. Kinda doubt you even read what you quoted.
by aph
Sat Apr 30, 2016 1:45 pm UTC
Forum: Science
Topic: List of All Laws of Nature
Replies: 199
Views: 18181

Re: List of All Laws of Nature

:D I'm not saying it is not OK that there is disparity in approaches. It should be with the current state of knowledge. edit: For example, some issues are clearly in the neurology department, like epilepsy or parkinsons. For depression, ADHD/ADD, mania, some types of psychosis and similar, you can g...

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