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by fortyseventeen
Thu Feb 17, 2011 5:02 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 0853: "Consecutive Vowels"
Replies: 159
Views: 40136

Re: 0853: "Consecutive Vowels"

Read the whole thread* and didn't find this joke yet, so: It wasn't suspicious to anyone how "queueing" worked on the female, while the male was aroused by "voyeur" with it's questionable sometimes-vowel? Naturally this must have a genetic explanation... http://rst.gsfc.nasa.gov/...
by fortyseventeen
Sat Jun 14, 2008 2:23 am UTC
Forum: Mathematics
Topic: How much of a math nerd are you?
Replies: 95
Views: 9176

Re: How much of a math nerd are you?

antonfire wrote:I'm pretty sure ey was talking about factoriadic representations.


So gender-neutral pronouns go on your list of nerdly traits as well? I never could get behind using them in public...
by fortyseventeen
Thu Jun 12, 2008 3:18 pm UTC
Forum: Mathematics
Topic: How much of a math nerd are you?
Replies: 95
Views: 9176

Re: How much of a math nerd are you?

I draw regular pentagons using Euclid's overly complex golden-ratio method. Then I bring out huge sheets of drafting paper and 10 extend edges to form star 20 circumscribe pentagon around star 30 goto 10 True, I just realised and was about to delete that post. If a member of a board (of judges or wh...
by fortyseventeen
Thu Jun 12, 2008 3:08 pm UTC
Forum: Mathematics
Topic: Your Axiom of Choice is SILLY
Replies: 60
Views: 8097

Re: Your Axiom of Choice is SILLY

do you even know what e^(4πi/3) looks like? Yes. It looks like a dot on the Cartesian plane, distance of one away from the origin, making an angle of π/3 with the vertical axis. Your point? That is merely a representation of the number, but I digress. Thanks, I think my head is sufficiently "a...
by fortyseventeen
Sun Jun 08, 2008 8:02 pm UTC
Forum: Mathematics
Topic: Your Axiom of Choice is SILLY
Replies: 60
Views: 8097

Re: Your Axiom of Choice is SILLY

EDIT: or maybe I'll just change my argument a bit: the axiom of choice seems too abstract to be an assumption, and so the statement that we call an axiom should be more fundamental. I would choose the well-ordering principle for this, since that's what I used in my proof. In other words, we should ...
by fortyseventeen
Sun Jun 08, 2008 4:41 pm UTC
Forum: Mathematics
Topic: Your Axiom of Choice is SILLY
Replies: 60
Views: 8097

Re: Your Axiom of Choice is SILLY

Hmm, okay, maybe I'm stupid. Of course, I still fail to see the usefulness in rejecting the axiom, because in the physical world, there is always a way to arbitrarily choose from a set. Then again, by the same logic, I fail to see the usefulness of a lot of set theory and classifications of infinity...
by fortyseventeen
Sun Jun 08, 2008 4:07 pm UTC
Forum: Mathematics
Topic: Your Axiom of Choice is SILLY
Replies: 60
Views: 8097

Your Axiom of Choice is SILLY

Am I the only one who thinks that this is stupid? A choice function is a function f, defined on a collection X of nonempty sets, such that for every set s in X, f(s) is an element of s. With this concept, the axiom can be stated: For any set of non-empty sets, X, there exists a choice function f def...
by fortyseventeen
Fri Dec 07, 2007 3:56 am UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 0353: "Python"
Replies: 241
Views: 52113

Re: "Python" discussion

Wow, thanks for the thorough reply, Wheat. I will check out Grok. I am aware of the general distaste toward monkey patching (and the history of the term), but it is sometimes a necessary evil. What I mean by "discouragements" in this case were language constructs that made it less than pre...
by fortyseventeen
Thu Dec 06, 2007 11:05 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 0353: "Python"
Replies: 241
Views: 52113

Re: "Python" discussion

But I just want to say this: it's not such a great reason for walking away from a programming language. Obviously what could be done in Python could also be done in another programming language - the thing is, it's the styles of expression that set different languages apart. Understanding different...
by fortyseventeen
Thu Dec 06, 2007 9:25 pm UTC
Forum: Forum Games
Topic: The Arrow game
Replies: 3127
Views: 169072

Re: The Arrow game

^ is of good humor
< lacks ovaries (possibly)
v is not the 22nd item of Latin::SYMBOLS
by fortyseventeen
Thu Dec 06, 2007 9:15 pm UTC
Forum: Forum Games
Topic: Non-Sequitur Showdown.
Replies: 4107
Views: 469500

Re: Non-Sequitor Showdown.

UANAEIAEIEIO!
by fortyseventeen
Thu Dec 06, 2007 8:16 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 0353: "Python"
Replies: 241
Views: 52113

Re: "Python" discussion

Oh, and symbols are for memory savings, FYI. String mutability is dealt with by the convention of cloning, or by freezing it if you're paranoid. he had gone into that by saying the problem with ruby strings is that they arent cached, so the symbol was born. That's right, so because the syntax chang...
by fortyseventeen
Thu Dec 06, 2007 7:48 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 0353: "Python"
Replies: 241
Views: 52113

Re: "Python" discussion

Whoops, left the topic too long... Count me on those who registered to comment about Python. Some people here are talking about whether Python is for those who don't want to learn programming or those who do. Well the thing about Python is that it's BOTH programmaticaly powerfull yet uncomplicated, ...
by fortyseventeen
Wed Dec 05, 2007 7:40 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 0353: "Python"
Replies: 241
Views: 52113

Re: "Python" discussion

Oops, didn't see this one: Seriously, can you define and implement methods in some random file and then mix them seamlessly into any Python class you choose without subclassing and almost implement multiple inheritance? Ruby can.** Like this? # utils.py def method(cls): def decorator(fun): setattr(c...
by fortyseventeen
Wed Dec 05, 2007 7:09 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 0353: "Python"
Replies: 241
Views: 52113

Re: "Python" discussion

Why are we ignoring Ruby and comparing the two P's directly? They're pretty different from each other. Ruby is in the middle ground, or thereabouts. Indeed. Who doesn't? (Well, maybe the people who developed Python don't, because they're religiously opposed to it.) Personally, I think @_ is a better...
by fortyseventeen
Tue Dec 04, 2007 6:10 am UTC
Forum: Computer Science
Topic: How to present CS as awesome to HS students?
Replies: 73
Views: 11685

Re: How to present CS as awesome to HS students?

I still think that getting kids interested in CS should be done before HS, for some reason... Has this video of Alan Kay been posted before? The part of his lecture starting at around 22.5 min. (or 26.5 if you're more impatient) shows what kinds of computer-related tasks that kids respond well to. T...
by fortyseventeen
Tue Dec 04, 2007 3:31 am UTC
Forum: Forum Games
Topic: Thumbtacks - Final Results! I'm not kidding!
Replies: 126
Views: 11253

Re: Thumbtacks - Round 3 Results!

Wow, I completely spaced, and I'm still up there. Is everyone else really that bad at this game? :P

Sorry, school kinda pounced on me. Finals are next week, also, but I'll try to stay in.
by fortyseventeen
Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:19 am UTC
Forum: Forum Games
Topic: Maximize the post:views ratio! (if you look, you must post)
Replies: 36662
Views: 1993838

Re: Maximize the post:views ratio! (if you look, you must post)

Back of the line, Methuselah.
by fortyseventeen
Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:18 am UTC
Forum: Forum Games
Topic: Cheddar Gorge?
Replies: 1294
Views: 141383

Re: Cheddar Gorge?

orthogonal
by fortyseventeen
Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:15 am UTC
Forum: Forum Games
Topic: Non-Sequitur Showdown.
Replies: 4107
Views: 469500

Re: Non-Sequitor Showdown.

So what'll happen after we sprinkle the mole-man powder over the bits of fur and mange?
by fortyseventeen
Fri Nov 30, 2007 6:13 am UTC
Forum: Coding
Topic: Teaching a beginner to program
Replies: 21
Views: 3391

Re: Teaching a beginner to program

In response to those that have recommended Python, I would instead recommend Smalltalk or Ruby. Python has a good number of inconsistencies in its object model, like having to distinguish between methods, functions and procedures, and the non-extensibility of native data types, that I see as potenti...
by fortyseventeen
Fri Nov 30, 2007 5:41 am UTC
Forum: Coding
Topic: What editor do you use?
Replies: 124
Views: 19162

Re: What editor do you use?

I'm currently using TextMate but I'm looking for an open alternative. Vi/emacs don't do what I want without having to learn many shortcuts or heavily configure the interface, although I probably should get to know at least one of them. SciTE looks interesting but is difficult to get running on a Mac...
by fortyseventeen
Wed Nov 28, 2007 11:13 pm UTC
Forum: Forum Games
Topic: Nomic
Replies: 71
Views: 6218

Re: Nomic

Excuse me, but if I know how Nomics work, I'm pretty sure that you would still have to get a majority/unanimity/whatever vote in order to become throned, since the proposal isn't in effect until it has been voted in.
by fortyseventeen
Wed Nov 28, 2007 9:13 pm UTC
Forum: Forum Games
Topic: Non-Sequitur Showdown.
Replies: 4107
Views: 469500

Re: Non-Sequitor Showdown.

1. I am stupid and statement 2 is false.
2. You are stupid and/or statement 1 is false.
by fortyseventeen
Wed Nov 28, 2007 8:59 pm UTC
Forum: Forum Games
Topic: Thumbtacks - Final Results! I'm not kidding!
Replies: 126
Views: 11253

Re: Thumbtacks - Round 2 Results! Round 3 up!

Wow, lucky guess, I guess...

Oh, and way to bluff, Matt. :D

DragonRidr wrote:At the end of the round, twelve thumbtacks (well, ten plus two bloody hands) are stuck into the board. Not thirteen.

Ew. I don't want to be the one to peel those off the board.
by fortyseventeen
Thu Nov 22, 2007 4:52 am UTC
Forum: Computer Science
Topic: Computer science vs. software engineering?
Replies: 39
Views: 42840

Re: Computer science vs. software engineering?

Hammer wrote:Chickens and helicopters split to Religious Wars.


Woah, woah. I thought we had almost reached an agreement! The war hadn't started yet.
by fortyseventeen
Thu Nov 22, 2007 4:23 am UTC
Forum: Religious Wars
Topic: Agile Development or Bad Design? (AKA Chickens with Helicopters)
Replies: 24
Views: 6197

Re: Computer science vs. software engineering?

Who did it the right way? Technically, I did, if you look at the vendor's knowledge base. But his approach also had merit. He and I got to the same place, I just dispensed with the helicopter, picked up the chicken and carried it across the road. Heh. Technically, you just took the chicken out of h...
by fortyseventeen
Thu Nov 22, 2007 4:13 am UTC
Forum: Religious Wars
Topic: Agile Development or Bad Design? (AKA Chickens with Helicopters)
Replies: 24
Views: 6197

Re: Computer science vs. software engineering?

Oh trust me, I've seen some perfectly valid, completely professional solutions to problems that would be dirty in anyone's books. :lol: It's just that it doesn't matter sometimes. :) Quite true, which is why I carefully defined the term to include only cases in which it doesn't matter. I suppose it...
by fortyseventeen
Thu Nov 22, 2007 12:55 am UTC
Forum: Religious Wars
Topic: Agile Development or Bad Design? (AKA Chickens with Helicopters)
Replies: 24
Views: 6197

Re: Computer science vs. software engineering?

EDIT: Note that I don't have anything against coding/hacking (not to be confused with agile development). It's a wonderful way to become familiar with or discover new concepts and frameworks, but trying to pass it off as professional/academic work is shameful. Quick and dirty hacks in the right pla...
by fortyseventeen
Thu Nov 22, 2007 12:46 am UTC
Forum: Computer Science
Topic: Creating and implementing algorithms
Replies: 62
Views: 8548

Re: Creating and implementing algorithms

Hah! "Autodidact"! I've been looking for that word! Thanks, taylor.

Erm, anyway, carry on...
by fortyseventeen
Wed Nov 21, 2007 7:23 pm UTC
Forum: Computer Science
Topic: Computer science vs. software engineering?
Replies: 39
Views: 42840

Re: Computer science vs. software engineering?

In my experience, perhaps unfortunately, most Computer Science programs are largely Software Engineer programs with a fancier name. As mentioned before, an awful lot of CS people mostly code or structure code - exactly what one would expect SE to do - rather than R&D new concepts in how that sh...
by fortyseventeen
Thu Nov 15, 2007 7:12 pm UTC
Forum: Computer Science
Topic: How to present CS as awesome to HS students?
Replies: 73
Views: 11685

Re: How to present CS as awesome to HS students?

Maybe these methods would appeal to people slightly interested in CS, but such people with that much of interest would probably pursue CS without such a stimulus. Most of the things stated are either too boring to interest anyone, or too advanced to peak the interest of someone without a clue about...
by fortyseventeen
Sat Nov 10, 2007 8:26 pm UTC
Forum: Computer Science
Topic: How to present CS as awesome to HS students?
Replies: 73
Views: 11685

Re: How to present CS as awesome to HS students?

Oh, duh, forgot this one: http://hacketyhack.net/ The current version of Hackety Hack is somewhat buggy, but it shows yet another approach: let kids use programming to better facilitate what they do online every day: blogging, watching videos, etc. The next version is due shortly after the developer...
by fortyseventeen
Sat Nov 03, 2007 1:26 am UTC
Forum: Science
Topic: speed of sound=c? (dont dismiss as stupid till you read)
Replies: 46
Views: 5433

Re: speed of sound=c? (dont dismiss as stupid till you read)

Maybe the confusing point here is that in a wave of matter vibration, the second atom's reaction to the first atom's movement depends on how close the atoms are. They have to alternately squish together and repel each other in order to propagate the wave. This introduces a large amount of delay, rel...
by fortyseventeen
Sat Nov 03, 2007 1:11 am UTC
Forum: Mathematics
Topic: millionth derivative
Replies: 18
Views: 2506

Re: millionth derivative

Back to the original problem... D(f(x)) = D(x * e^(-x)) = -x * D(e^(-x)) + e^(-x) * D(x) [product rule] = -x * e^(-x) + e^(-x) = -(x + 1) * e^(-x) = - f(x + 1) From this alone we can inductively find the nth derivative: D^n(x * exp(-x)) = (-1)^n * f(x + n) = (-1)^n * (x + n) * exp(-x) so the million...
by fortyseventeen
Sat Nov 03, 2007 12:48 am UTC
Forum: Science
Topic: Jerk
Replies: 34
Views: 5868

Re: Jerk

Yup. I wonder what that would feel like. Try riding a bus. I will endorse that recommendation. Half of the drivers I've had don't know how to do anything between GAS PEDAL ON FLOOR and BRAKE PEDAL ON FLOOR. :x If the gas pedal is the 'accelerator', then the position of the gas pedal relative to its...
by fortyseventeen
Fri Nov 02, 2007 1:36 pm UTC
Forum: Forum Games
Topic: Another Text adventure
Replies: 124
Views: 9050

Re: Another Text adventure

((Erm, I kinda meant to imply that the character's feet had been cooked to a tasty crisp.))
by fortyseventeen
Fri Nov 02, 2007 1:31 pm UTC
Forum: Forum Games
Topic: Corrupt-a-wish
Replies: 25802
Views: 2105718

Re: Corrupt-a-wish

Granted, but the UN had recently done away with "those useless bits of the week and either end."

I wish my (Mac) laptop would arrive (undamaged) soon.

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