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by Thesh
Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:54 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: The Darker Side of the News
Replies: 4118
Views: 547879

Re: The Darker Side of the News

The sky is pretty big, and aircrafts are all moving pretty fast. It's unlikely it just happened to be in the way of the beam for long enough to guide the missile to it, more likely it just happened to get between the AA missile and the F-16, and far more likely to have been targeted by the AA crew.
by Thesh
Fri Sep 14, 2018 4:02 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 7208
Views: 537771

Re: Trump presidency

Donald Trump being President is more the product of an extremely massive propaganda effort by Republicans and wealthy right-wing activists, combined with an extremely undemocratic process for selecting Presidents, than Trump's ability to market himself. If it wasn't for their willingness to all apol...
by Thesh
Tue Sep 11, 2018 2:58 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Where Aren't They Now (Obituaries)
Replies: 278
Views: 59070

Re: Where Aren't They Now (Obituaries)

Gene Wilder has been dead for two years.
by Thesh
Mon Sep 10, 2018 3:39 am UTC
Forum: Food
Topic: Controversial opinions about food
Replies: 1068
Views: 190277

Re: Controversial opinions about food

British accents.
by Thesh
Sun Sep 09, 2018 6:57 pm UTC
Forum: Food
Topic: Controversial opinions about food
Replies: 1068
Views: 190277

Re: Controversial opinions about food

I always just assumed that Worcestershire was the name of a city in England.
by Thesh
Sun Sep 09, 2018 3:41 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 7208
Views: 537771

Re: Trump presidency

That's all a random quirk, rather than the result of the design of the electoral college. With the electoral college, it makes it possible for a handful of states to decide the President; if Texas and Florida flipped solid blue, then no voters in red states would have any say in who is President. Wi...
by Thesh
Sun Sep 09, 2018 1:52 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 7208
Views: 537771

Re: Trump presidency

In reality, a popular vote system also spreads the vote out over the country, because states aren't homogeneous. The actual effect is that everyone who isn't in a swing state is ignored, and it's a lot easier to manipulate the system so that a less popular candidate can win. Stop trying to make excu...
by Thesh
Sat Sep 08, 2018 6:37 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Libertarianism
Replies: 856
Views: 27390

Re: Libertarianism

It's not super-optimistic; the amount of work you are talking about is fairly small compared to the amount of people, and I'm not expecting everyone to work. You don't need everyone to nearly as much as we do today for a functional society. It's also a matter of structure; our society is not structu...
by Thesh
Sat Sep 08, 2018 2:17 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Libertarianism
Replies: 856
Views: 27390

Re: Libertarianism

Goods and services will never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever run out. That you think this will happen tells me you are a sociopath who would rather die than risk someone else benefiting from your labor without compensation. Who’s going to volunteer to do shitty, unfulfilling jobs...
by Thesh
Fri Sep 07, 2018 11:51 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Libertarianism
Replies: 856
Views: 27390

Re: Libertarianism

The fact that they are consuming things that require labor, and not laboring is the problem. Why is that a problem? That you don't like it doesn't mean it's economically unworkable. People get paid without working all the time; hell, when I talked about people spending millions they didn't work for...
by Thesh
Fri Sep 07, 2018 11:29 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Libertarianism
Replies: 856
Views: 27390

Re: Libertarianism

The fact that they are consuming things that require labor, and not laboring is the problem. Why is that a problem? That you don't like it doesn't mean it's economically unworkable. People get paid without working all the time; hell, when I talked about people spending millions they didn't work for...
by Thesh
Fri Sep 07, 2018 11:01 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Libertarianism
Replies: 856
Views: 27390

Re: Libertarianism

Ever done group projects in college? Free rider problems exist, even in small groups that all know one another, and still have some impact on one's own results. This is the same principle dialed up to a ridiculous degree. The remaining direct reward from your work is so small as to be negligible. W...
by Thesh
Fri Sep 07, 2018 10:45 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Libertarianism
Replies: 856
Views: 27390

Re: Libertarianism

I've expended my time and effort, and am effectively no better off for it. Of course you are. You can feel better about yourself, the group will give you status, and you may even enjoy your work, plus what else is there to do? And again, if no one works, then what? Everyone starves. So people will ...
by Thesh
Fri Sep 07, 2018 10:23 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Libertarianism
Replies: 856
Views: 27390

Re: Libertarianism

You have not proposed any solution to the lack of incentive. But there is a UBI; everything you can possibly make isn't simply taken from you, it's distributed to everyone, including you, and you always make more from working than not working. In fact, if absolutely nobody works, everyone starves t...
by Thesh
Fri Sep 07, 2018 10:17 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Libertarianism
Replies: 856
Views: 27390

Re: Libertarianism

Money only matters so long as it represents value. Nobody is motivated to go to work, since they are paid the same either way. As people cease going to work, goods and services stop being produced. At this point, the fact that there is plenty of money ceases to matter, because we have shortages. Th...
by Thesh
Fri Sep 07, 2018 9:50 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Libertarianism
Replies: 856
Views: 27390

Re: Libertarianism

2) Yes, one can tax property, but ultimately, if nobody can make money via work, they can only pay off existing property ownership for so long. If nothing new's coming into the pool, and you're constantly spending, you'll exhaust any static reserve. This methodology incentivizes the purchase of ser...
by Thesh
Fri Sep 07, 2018 8:52 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Libertarianism
Replies: 856
Views: 27390

Re: Libertarianism

1) Untested, sure, but you claimed unworkable
2) Property taxes
by Thesh
Fri Sep 07, 2018 8:41 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Libertarianism
Replies: 856
Views: 27390

Re: Libertarianism

But there is a UBI; everything you can possibly make isn't simply taken from you, it's distributed to everyone, including you, and you always make more from working than not working. In fact, if absolutely nobody works, everyone starves to death. If people do enough work so that people have enough t...
by Thesh
Fri Sep 07, 2018 8:25 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Libertarianism
Replies: 856
Views: 27390

Re: Libertarianism

A 100% tax rate results in an unworkable system. If you have examples of a system that kept functioning after the imposition of a 100% tax rate, I'd like to see them. If the result is "people avoid the tax rate by routing through another system, not paying taxes", then I'd question the id...
by Thesh
Fri Sep 07, 2018 8:01 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Libertarianism
Replies: 856
Views: 27390

Re: Libertarianism

With 0% overall tax rate, the government can still borrow/print money in order to pay for it's services, and with a 100% tax rate there will still be voluntary labor, and prices simply will represent the relative costs of non-labor resources. It doesn't seem like there is any rate at which things ar...
by Thesh
Fri Aug 31, 2018 9:33 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Libertarianism
Replies: 856
Views: 27390

Re: Libertarianism

At some point, production goes down and it just causes inflation. But as I've said, we generally try to maintain an inflation target of 2% every year. If we start with a relatively small amount, such as 5% of GDP, and then increase it by whatever we determine is the limit such that we maintain our i...
by Thesh
Fri Aug 31, 2018 3:58 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Police misbehavior thread
Replies: 6429
Views: 938136

Re: Police misbehavior thread

The tense is confusing because the information that the shoplifter shot through the garage came out recently via the affidavit, but the incident itself happened last week. So the house wasn't destroyed until after he barricaded himself in it.
by Thesh
Thu Aug 30, 2018 9:19 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Libertarianism
Replies: 856
Views: 27390

Re: Libertarianism

Either you don't have anything to say in response to my initial argument, or you think that inflation will inevitably wipe out minimum wage gains after a point. If you can keep increasing minimum wage above inflation, it will get closer and closer to mean wage. As minimum wage approaches mean wage, ...
by Thesh
Thu Aug 30, 2018 8:35 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Libertarianism
Replies: 856
Views: 27390

Re: Libertarianism

Demonstrable fact: Minimum wage increases result in wages at the bottom increasing more than inflation. My Argument: Increasing minimum wage every year so that we maintain our inflation target will result in increasing ability from people to move from the bottom to the middle and from the middle to ...
by Thesh
Thu Aug 30, 2018 8:19 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Libertarianism
Replies: 856
Views: 27390

Re: Libertarianism

I'm sure that sounds good in your head, but it is completely irrelevant to what is being discussed; I'm sure you don't realize this, as you don't think. We are talking about increasing minimum wage every year, so that every year they get closer and closer together over time.
by Thesh
Thu Aug 30, 2018 8:02 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Libertarianism
Replies: 856
Views: 27390

Re: Libertarianism

Again, you look for the one thing that makes your argument sound good to you, and you completely stop looking further. You put no thought into anything you write: because you are arguing about the minimum wage, the only possible reason that housing prices could have gone up is because of the minimum...
by Thesh
Thu Aug 30, 2018 7:33 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Libertarianism
Replies: 856
Views: 27390

Re: Libertarianism

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MDSTHPI The whole state averaged 3% since 2012. The minimum wage increases you are talking about started in 2015. See how the graph did absolutely nothing? That's how much a difference $7.25 to $10.10 makes. All in all, a minimum wage worker in Maryland is both mor...
by Thesh
Thu Aug 30, 2018 7:12 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Libertarianism
Replies: 856
Views: 27390

Re: Libertarianism

https://us.spindices.com/indices/real-estate/sp-corelogic-case-shiller-us-national-home-price-nsa-index So US housing prices has averaged 6% per year in increases from June 2012 to June 2018. That article you cited says that housing prices increased 2% per year, which you are attributing to a minimu...
by Thesh
Thu Aug 30, 2018 6:34 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Libertarianism
Replies: 856
Views: 27390

Re: Libertarianism

Which you have failed to back up your argument. You are assuming that rents will always increase to absorb prices, as that is the only way you can argue against minimum wage/UBI, but in order to do that you have to dismiss the possibility that regional housing prices will affect local housing prices...
by Thesh
Thu Aug 30, 2018 6:18 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Libertarianism
Replies: 856
Views: 27390

Re: Libertarianism

Now your entire argument falls apart if you compare anything but poverty vs mansions, but if that's the only possible way you can avoid the point, that's the only possible way you can avoid the point.
by Thesh
Thu Aug 30, 2018 5:48 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Libertarianism
Replies: 856
Views: 27390

Re: Libertarianism

Rents on a national, regional, and local level are going to be heavily influenced by income distribution. When the minimum wage goes up on a national level, it will push real income up more in poor areas, less in areas closer to median wage, and down in wealthy areas. Real rents will adjust accordin...
by Thesh
Thu Aug 30, 2018 5:37 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Libertarianism
Replies: 856
Views: 27390

Re: Libertarianism

Either you are 1) ignoring that people care about rents relative to real incomes and just plain don't have a point but are trying to pretend like you do in order to make some sort of argument against minimum wage increases or 2) claiming that the inflation will increase by so much that it will wipe ...
by Thesh
Thu Aug 30, 2018 5:04 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Libertarianism
Replies: 856
Views: 27390

Re: Libertarianism

Now you are making assumptions contradicting what I wrote and you wrote, without actually addressing the point where I made that argument. So now you are saying that rents will necessarily increase by enough to wipe out all minimum wage increases, something that is just plain wrong based on past evi...
by Thesh
Thu Aug 30, 2018 4:52 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Libertarianism
Replies: 856
Views: 27390

Re: Libertarianism

As usual, you deliberately refuse to read what I wrote or even attempt to understand the point.
by Thesh
Thu Aug 30, 2018 4:23 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Libertarianism
Replies: 856
Views: 27390

Re: Libertarianism

With regards to minimum wage, while it does cause inflation, that inflation is typically less than the amount that wages increase at the bottom. Over the long run if we do as we have been and just let the real minimum wage drop with inflation then eventually it will be wiped out, but as long as mini...
by Thesh
Sat Aug 25, 2018 3:15 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 7208
Views: 537771

Re: Trump presidency

That was old news by the time I posted.
by Thesh
Sat Aug 25, 2018 4:39 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 7208
Views: 537771

Re: Trump presidency

So to end the week it comes out that both the Trump Org CFO and the ratfucker's aide have been granted immunity. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/crime-courts/trump-org-cfo-allen-weisselberg-given-immunity-prosecutors-testify-n903566 https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/24/politics/andrew-miller-roger-stone-aide...
by Thesh
Fri Aug 24, 2018 10:38 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Firearms Regulations
Replies: 213
Views: 15797

Re: Firearms Regulations

https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/ascii/vdhb.txt

It's one million if you define home invasion as a burglary with someone present, and a quarter of that if you only count those with threats of violence.
by Thesh
Fri Aug 24, 2018 2:05 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Libertarianism
Replies: 856
Views: 27390

Re: Libertarianism

You've already said that people are poor primarily because they are uneducated.

Let's say you implement a Libertarian capitalist economy and it turns out there are still people in severe poverty, and charity isn't enough to go around. How do you fix it, and how do you determine who is at fault?
by Thesh
Fri Aug 24, 2018 1:31 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Libertarianism
Replies: 856
Views: 27390

Re: Libertarianism

The problem is that the libertarian "fix" for the situation is to just declare every problem to be not a problem or not resolvable, and ultimately blame the victim for lacking personal responsibility.

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