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by Trebla
Wed Aug 30, 2017 1:31 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Let's talk about race, 2017 edition
Replies: 177
Views: 8671

Re: Let's talk about race, 2017 edition

My point is that it's inevitable that we are going to win the war against racism (and sexism and transphobia). It's not a question of how we can win that war, but how we can win it sooner. There are plenty of plausible (if improbable) ways to imagine this not happening, at least not for many genera...
by Trebla
Thu Aug 24, 2017 12:56 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Let's talk about race, 2017 edition
Replies: 177
Views: 8671

Re: Let's talk about race, 2017 edition

deprecate all headstones of those who didn't wear blue. I am unexplainably amused by the thought of walking through a cemetery and seeing half the gravestones with lines drawn through them. (I know this was a typo for "desecrate", but it amused me). You live in a far different world than ...
by Trebla
Mon Aug 21, 2017 7:24 pm UTC
Forum: Gaming
Topic: Hearthstone
Replies: 588
Views: 93851

Re: Hearthstone

Frozen Throne has renewed my interest more than any other expansion I think. I like that the meta has mostly slowed down... maybe 20% of my matches (around rank 10) are against aggro decks. Control Reno-style priest deck has been the most fun deck I've played since Naxx.
by Trebla
Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:59 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 3364
Views: 204732

Re: Trump presidency

Quoting from a friend: The key thing in my statement "Absent any higher collusion" If the Trump campaign actively sought out Russian help in the hacking of the DNC servers and Podesta's emails then yes there is clearly a difference. But Don Jr. simply going to a meeting, as it has been po...
by Trebla
Thu Apr 06, 2017 5:04 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: AI discussion from The Darker Side of the News
Replies: 71
Views: 9473

Re: AI discussion from The Darker Side of the News

Trebla, your timeline for autonomous cars is a tad off........ That direction itself seems to be a bit of a dead end. Projects with ambitions beyond the highway rely on detailed, annotated and regularly upgraded 3d mapping. That is a kind of a halfway point in between augmented roads, and purely se...
by Trebla
Thu Apr 06, 2017 2:07 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: AI discussion from The Darker Side of the News
Replies: 71
Views: 9473

Re: AI discussion from The Darker Side of the News

Computers are pretty good at recognizing something and reacting accordingly. Road curves, turn. Someone moves in front of you, stop. Two decades ago (maybe even one) this would have been a ridiculously absurd statement. I won't say a machine will be able to replace a plumber in any short time frame...
by Trebla
Thu Mar 16, 2017 5:13 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: HR1313 - Workplace Collection of Genetic Information
Replies: 11
Views: 2758

HR1313 - Workplace Collection of Genetic Information

HR1313 Relevant section (emphasis mine): (b) Collection Of Information.—Notwithstanding any other provision of law, the collection of information about the manifested disease or disorder of a family member shall not be considered an unlawful acquisition of genetic information with respect to anothe...
by Trebla
Tue Mar 07, 2017 3:54 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 3364
Views: 204732

Re: Trump presidency

Commentary: Donald Trump's wiretap tweets raise his risk of impeachment by Noah Feldman The argument may be logical, but it's wishful thinking. He's already said it... he could shoot someone on the street (especially if they were a minority... ZING!) and still have support of his followers (and eno...
by Trebla
Fri Mar 03, 2017 2:39 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 3364
Views: 204732

Re: Trump presidency

From a security standpoint, isn't it actually worse to use email hosted on someone else's server? At least with your own server you're ultimately in control of the data. You're leveraging a much larger security system that's much more likely to be patched for any vulnerabilities. It's quite likely ...
by Trebla
Thu Feb 16, 2017 10:23 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Citizen's Wage
Replies: 942
Views: 160450

Re: Citizen's Wage

I know this is going back a page or so and doesn't deal with the socialism vs capitalism discussion recently dominating this thread... But I saw this article today that highlights some of the same things we did in the previous couple pages also drawing a direct correlation between the potential shif...
by Trebla
Tue Feb 14, 2017 9:47 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 3364
Views: 204732

Re: Trump presidency

But uhh Dubya was a threat to many institutional norms in America. Like how we vote, remember how we voted and then didn't get to actually have a President Gore? We didn't have a President Gore because Al Gore didn't win the election. He lost Florida by a slim margin, demanded a recount - and the r...
by Trebla
Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:27 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Abortion - Trump Thread Split
Replies: 21
Views: 3010

Re: Trump presidency

Unwanted children in general is also a problem in many communities. But the line is drawn at birth for some people, between "human" and "tissue". Pro-life supporters simply draw the line earlier. Once a baby is born, it is literally a crime to abandon the baby. Pro-life supporte...
by Trebla
Wed Feb 01, 2017 3:17 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Abortion - Trump Thread Split
Replies: 21
Views: 3010

Re: Trump presidency

IMO the only hope for the Democrats is to recognize that they might be on the wrong side of history regarding abortion. That does not mean they have to oppose abortion. But they have concede to that the right to abortion should be decided at state-level by democratic vote rather than be imposed by ...
by Trebla
Fri Jan 20, 2017 12:12 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: First Tesla Autopilot Death
Replies: 304
Views: 36169

Re: First Tesla Autopilot Death

Tesla cleared by investigators Not necessarily the most re-assuring results... selective quotes from the article: Tesla’s self-driving software, known as Autopilot, has proved adept at preventing Tesla cars from rear-ending other vehicles, but situations involving crossing traffic — as was the case...
by Trebla
Thu Jan 05, 2017 7:22 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: 2016 US Presidential Election
Replies: 8482
Views: 704778

Re: 2016 US Presidential Election

Do you know why every fucking banking site asks you "secret questions" like "What is your pet's name"?? Because it technically counts as two-factor authentication. This is a strongly regulated field as it is. Unfortunately, people don't actually understand what a security postur...
by Trebla
Wed Jan 04, 2017 2:04 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Citizen's Wage
Replies: 942
Views: 160450

Re: Citizen's Wage

Forty-two husks per house, two husks per meal, 2190 husks for a year's worth of crops. 4380 husks are in circulation. Sunlight is free. Everything evens out; there is perfect equality. The husks circulate freely, so sometimes the builder will pay the cook extra for another meal, or the cook will pa...
by Trebla
Tue Jan 03, 2017 9:23 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Citizen's Wage
Replies: 942
Views: 160450

Re: Citizen's Wage

The general thrust of the conversation thus far has been that we should convert over to a citizen's wage in preparation for these technological developments or because it is a better system than current social welfare systems, depending on who is doing the arguing. In either case, a pro-active appr...
by Trebla
Tue Jan 03, 2017 5:14 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Citizen's Wage
Replies: 942
Views: 160450

Re: Citizen's Wage

Let's be fair... the vast majority of the data points on that chart hide the fact that the raw number of workers in agriculture held essentially constant while population exploded. Noting in fact absolute growth in the industry until the early 20th century. From https://www.agclassroom.org/gan/timel...
by Trebla
Tue Jan 03, 2017 4:22 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Citizen's Wage
Replies: 942
Views: 160450

Re: Citizen's Wage

You need evidence. For exceptional claims, you need exceptional evidence. It is not sufficient that it has not been conclusively ruled out as a possibility. You need some good reason why it should be taken seriously. Same, same, all "Jesus is returning" or "the mark of the beast is w...
by Trebla
Tue Jan 03, 2017 2:38 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Citizen's Wage
Replies: 942
Views: 160450

Re: Citizen's Wage

This. I have difficulty with claims regarding automation and AI breakthroughs displacing all jobs, etc. They border on religion when it comes to testability, particularly when they begin talking about the Singularity. You can dismiss absolutes like "AI taking all jobs " easily enough, but...
by Trebla
Sat Nov 12, 2016 2:04 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Problem about free will
Replies: 126
Views: 15899

Re: Problem about free will

If "sentience" is not output from/part of the computer, what is it? ...snip irrelevant dictionary definition that dodged the question... Do you see a computer as a conscious entity and able to have thoughts and feelings? Yes. Absolutely. And if you don't see it as output from/an integral ...
by Trebla
Sat Nov 12, 2016 12:31 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Problem about free will
Replies: 126
Views: 15899

Re: Problem about free will

Trebla "Your little test is meaningless." No. It shows that one can give up his free will to answer as they normally would to answer as I ask. Take it and see that this is a truth. You have now taken the test to prove you do not possess free will, I guess we're done here? "And you al...
by Trebla
Fri Nov 11, 2016 9:30 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Problem about free will
Replies: 126
Views: 15899

Re: Problem about free will

Your little test is meaningless. You make a prediction that is inevitable (and if you were paying attention, you would notice posts that already started with the letter 'I') and then say when it's fulfilled, it proves something unrelated. How about this... you're now playing a game with me. The fact...
by Trebla
Fri Nov 11, 2016 5:58 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Problem about free will
Replies: 126
Views: 15899

Re: Problem about free will

I do not know if a bot could do so or not but if it did, it would still be ignoring it's programming or not depending on the complexity. I do not think you or I can say what a bot is capable of until we find a good one. Emphasis added by me... can you give me any explanation of how a computer can i...
by Trebla
Fri Nov 11, 2016 5:30 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Problem about free will
Replies: 126
Views: 15899

Re: Problem about free will

I have no supernatural belief and if you saw a claim of such then you do not read well. Get the quote where I make such a claim and I will help your vision. I gave you the quote where you claimed supernatural belief... I'll give it to you again. we can see our brains as a biological computer plus s...
by Trebla
Fri Nov 11, 2016 2:52 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Problem about free will
Replies: 126
Views: 15899

Re: Problem about free will

Regardless of who or what the entity is, if it shows will and motion or decision, and it will or it will likely die, we are forced to say that it is his free will causing the motion, unless we can point to some other entity that is manipulating it. This explanation applies to SO MANY THINGS that we...
by Trebla
Thu Nov 10, 2016 3:26 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Problem about free will
Replies: 126
Views: 15899

Re: Problem about free will

You would be whoever you think you are. If you do not know who you are then seek Gnosis. Trivially false... if I think I'm the first (best, strongest, biggest, etc etc etc) man alive, this does not make me that person. Does your computer have "free will"? Can it make choices based on what...
by Trebla
Mon Oct 31, 2016 12:30 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: 2016 US Presidential Election
Replies: 8482
Views: 704778

Re: 2016 US Presidential Election

The BBC had an article on low voter turnout in the US. They interviewed one young woman who said she wasn't voting because she didn't know enough about the candidates' positions, rather than learning more about them... I would be mortified giving an answer like that. What a stupidly lazy route to t...
by Trebla
Thu Oct 20, 2016 1:55 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: 2016 US Presidential Election
Replies: 8482
Views: 704778

Re: 2016 US Presidential Election

What Gore did is fundamentally different though. He never questioned the legitimacy of the process. He appealed the process, but that appeal was also within the rules of the process itself. And he accepted the results (admittedly though, many democrats seem to think he shouldn't have. So it's not j...
by Trebla
Wed Oct 19, 2016 11:44 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: 2016 US Presidential Election
Replies: 8482
Views: 704778

Re: 2016 US Presidential Election

The first paragraph of your quote sucks. I hate people who say they know and won't say how they know. I know things too and I'm not telling you how I know, but I know things. Yeah. I know. It is pretty reminiscent of... just about every conspiracy DT trots out there: "I've got investigators, a...
by Trebla
Fri Sep 16, 2016 3:31 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Police misbehavior thread
Replies: 5322
Views: 730509

Re: Police misbehavior thread

gmalivuk wrote:So about those cops...


I think most cops will use 'G' as a standalone unit. And when they use 'k' they're usually talking about kilograms of some substance or another.

Oh wait, that's not what you meant. :lol:
by Trebla
Tue Aug 23, 2016 2:51 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Problem about free will
Replies: 126
Views: 15899

Re: Problem about free will

Analysis requires the brain, not the legs; either you did not know that or I do not understand your question. The latter is much more likely to be true than the former. Therefor, I do not understand what you are saying. Can you please explain your point again so that I do understand? Analysis requi...
by Trebla
Mon Aug 22, 2016 5:48 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: The Thread To Remind Me We're Living In The Future
Replies: 1548
Views: 212322

Re: The Thread To Remind Me We're Living In The Future

Y'know, I think about community driverless cars, then I think about all the crap in the backseat of my car (jackets, work gloves, rain gear, misc garbage), the crap in the backseat of my roommate's car (hard hat, tools, jacket, high-vis vest, misc garbage), and the crap in my ex-girlfriend's car (b...
by Trebla
Thu Aug 11, 2016 12:27 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: 2016 US Presidential Election
Replies: 8482
Views: 704778

Re: 2016 US Presidential Election

That being said... it's one thing to worry about some of the bullshit he's throwing out about policy; a lot of it's pretty fucked up. But all of this worry over every random bit of crap that he says, and all this parsing and examination, it's just getting silly. But new policy BS doesn't change fre...
by Trebla
Tue Aug 09, 2016 11:45 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: The Thread To Remind Me We're Living In The Future
Replies: 1548
Views: 212322

Re: The Thread To Remind Me We're Living In The Future

IBM's Watson AI saved a woman from leukemia IBM's Watson has done everything from winning at Jeopardy to cooking exotic meals, but it appears to have accomplished its greatest feat yet: saving a life. University of Tokyo doctors report that the artificial intelligence diagnosed a 60-year-old woman'...
by Trebla
Mon Aug 01, 2016 5:44 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: 2016 US Presidential Election
Replies: 8482
Views: 704778

Re: 2016 US Presidential Election

The most important thing I noticed in Trump's comments was that he said "that Khan didn't have the right to claim in front of millions, that I did not read the constitution". Yes, he does. Technically it could be slander on the assumption that it's both false and damages Trump's reputatio...
by Trebla
Mon Aug 01, 2016 3:36 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Problem about free will
Replies: 126
Views: 15899

Re: Problem about free will

Zohar: That's exactly how I see free will too: I don't have free will - instead, I am forced to choose to do that which seems best to me. Fortunately, that's exactly what I'd choose to do if I did have real free will. So tis all good... While I'm inclined to agree, it has been pointed out to me (by...
by Trebla
Mon Aug 01, 2016 1:27 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: 2016 US Presidential Election
Replies: 8482
Views: 704778

Re: 2016 US Presidential Election

The Paradox of Voting and Altruism Theory of Voting are interesting concepts that a lot of people in this thread recently seem to be flirting with. Whether through familiarity with the concepts or just a common sense approach that leads them to the same conclusion, I don't know. Interesting (and fai...
by Trebla
Thu Jul 28, 2016 3:03 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: First Tesla Autopilot Death
Replies: 304
Views: 36169

Re: First Tesla Autopilot Death

Doesn't really matter. Even if the Telsa was going much slower, the truck wouldn't have cleared the intersection in time. Just some back of the envelope calculation here... A quick Google search suggests loaded 18 wheeler can go from 0 to 60 in about 2 minutes. That works out to an average accelera...
by Trebla
Wed Jul 27, 2016 12:57 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: First Tesla Autopilot Death
Replies: 304
Views: 36169

Re: First Tesla Autopilot Death

Those pictures make it pretty clear that this was actually the truck driver's fault. The Tesla clearly had right of way. The truck should never should have attempted to cross that intersection when the road wasn't clear. The Tesla was going 74 in a 65 zone, so over the speed limit, but not so much ...

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