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by elasto
Sat Mar 23, 2019 4:31 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Police misbehavior thread
Replies: 6807
Views: 1071406

Re: Police misbehavior thread

Judaism also had forgiveness of debts every 7 years, and something even more special every 49 (the freeing of all slaves too maybe?)
by elasto
Sat Mar 23, 2019 12:59 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Police misbehavior thread
Replies: 6807
Views: 1071406

Re: Police misbehavior thread

I mean, I agree -- but that's not what police are intended to do. Police are intended to enforce the law, and you enforce the law by punishing people. Again, police sometimes have *arrest quotas*. They're *supposed* to be ruining people's lives. That's their function. That's their function in the U...
by elasto
Sat Mar 23, 2019 12:42 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Police misbehavior thread
Replies: 6807
Views: 1071406

Re: Police misbehavior thread

No, it is not. The function of the police is to enforce the law. To do that, they have the power to arrest. But having a power doesn't mean it's their purpose to use it. What do you think enforcing the law means? How do you enforce the law? Can you give me an example of enforcing the law that doesn...
by elasto
Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:24 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: British EU referendum in June [update: Leave wins 52% - 48%, politics ensue]
Replies: 1390
Views: 224268

Re: British EU referendum in June [update: Leave wins 52% - 48%, politics ensue]

I'm going on the march tomorrow, if anyone wishes to join me (and at least, like, 47 others), PM me. You get to score 10 points on the 'meet-a-mod' scoreboard we have at the xkcd office. I live too far away and have young kids, but I'll be there in spirit. Good for you though, much props! The petit...
by elasto
Fri Mar 22, 2019 3:21 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: British EU referendum in June [update: Leave wins 52% - 48%, politics ensue]
Replies: 1390
Views: 224268

Re: British EU referendum in June [update: Leave wins 52% - 48%, politics ensue]

You have to laugh: How does the EU see it? EU leaders were reportedly unconvinced by Theresa May's assurance that she could convince the UK Parliament to back her withdrawal deal. Mrs May made her case for a delay in a 90-minute presentation to her European counterparts and then left the room and th...
by elasto
Fri Mar 22, 2019 3:12 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: British EU referendum in June [update: Leave wins 52% - 48%, politics ensue]
Replies: 1390
Views: 224268

Re: British EU referendum in June [update: Leave wins 52% - 48%, politics ensue]

How does the process of putting forward bills work anyhow, does anyone know?

I imagine revoking A50 has to be via primary legislation, so does that mean only the government can propose it, or would a Labour front-bench or random backbencher motion count?
by elasto
Fri Mar 22, 2019 2:45 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: British EU referendum in June [update: Leave wins 52% - 48%, politics ensue]
Replies: 1390
Views: 224268

Re: British EU referendum in June [update: Leave wins 52% - 48%, politics ensue]

Touché... My youngest is like that sometimes. I'll ask her what she wants for dinner, and she says she doesn't know. So I'll go through, like, 20 choices and she'll refuse all of them. I tell her that unless she chooses something, I'll be the one deciding, and maybe she'll end up with something she ...
by elasto
Fri Mar 22, 2019 2:37 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: British EU referendum in June [update: Leave wins 52% - 48%, politics ensue]
Replies: 1390
Views: 224268

Re: British EU referendum in June [update: Leave wins 52% - 48%, politics ensue]

The rising prospect of a no-deal Brexit does focus the minds, that's true.

But the politicians voted that a no-deal Brexit couldn't happen, so it's all fine! Nothing to see here!!
by elasto
Fri Mar 22, 2019 2:21 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: British EU referendum in June [update: Leave wins 52% - 48%, politics ensue]
Replies: 1390
Views: 224268

Re: British EU referendum in June [update: Leave wins 52% - 48%, politics ensue]

I signed it. Though I don't think it'd be right or even feasible to just cancel Brexit, I think it will give succour to those calling for a second referendum, which I think is the only way forward, politically and practically. It's growing fast (it's already at 3.3m) but it must be approaching a har...
by elasto
Fri Mar 22, 2019 9:52 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Class vs class
Replies: 81
Views: 13049

Re: Class vs class

It's grating isn't is.

Maybe it offends our sense of natural justice: We try to maintain a pretence that 'bad things don't happen to good people and good things don't happen to bad people', but when someone totally lacking in class flaunts their gains it's something of an affront.
by elasto
Thu Mar 21, 2019 2:22 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Police misbehavior thread
Replies: 6807
Views: 1071406

Re: Police misbehavior thread

Any of the posts after which one? My one?

Apologies, I can't see any recent posts describing the legal obligations of firefighters in your country?

(And it was a genuine question because I'm not American, there was no need to jump down my throat!)
by elasto
Thu Mar 21, 2019 1:18 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Police misbehavior thread
Replies: 6807
Views: 1071406

Re: Police misbehavior thread

AFAIK the US doesn't have Duty To Rescue laws: you're not obligated to save someone. And you're definitely not obligated to risk your life to save someone. So firefighters in the US can get off scot-free letting people burn alive in a fire simply because they haven't paid their taxes? There'd be no...
by elasto
Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:37 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Police misbehavior thread
Replies: 6807
Views: 1071406

Re: Police misbehavior thread

Doesn't the US have animal cruelty laws? Certainly you can be jailed in the UK for torturing a dog, say.

One would think that being burned alive would count as torture...
by elasto
Wed Mar 20, 2019 10:50 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Being Rich is Against Anyone's Rational Self Interest
Replies: 37
Views: 2026

Re: Being Rich is Against Anyone's Rational Self Interest

Exactly. The more dysfunctional and corrupt an economy, the more the already rich can exploit and entrench themselves within it. And the bigger the disparity between rich and poor, the more desperate the poor will become, undercutting and tearing at one another like dogs snatching at the scraps fall...
by elasto
Wed Mar 20, 2019 9:48 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Proportional Minimum Wage
Replies: 24
Views: 2394

Re: Proportional Minimum Wage

I agree fully. I am just not convinced that a UBI is a good answer. And ditto robots taking all our jobs (and with it in many cases, our sense of worth). I just don't know what the answer is if UBI isn't it. AI and robots are going to dominate the workforce, and we have to find an answer to that. I...
by elasto
Wed Mar 20, 2019 2:03 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: British EU referendum in June [update: Leave wins 52% - 48%, politics ensue]
Replies: 1390
Views: 224268

Re: British EU referendum in June [update: Leave wins 52% - 48%, politics ensue]

Surprise surprise, Donald Trump Jr thinks the only valid form of democracy there is is a populist strongman; A representative democracy which tries to act in the best interests of voters apparently isn't a valid thing: The current deadlock over Brexit and possible delay to the UK's planned leaving d...
by elasto
Wed Mar 20, 2019 1:48 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Police misbehavior thread
Replies: 6807
Views: 1071406

Re: Police misbehavior thread

By being good cops, they ceased to be cops. I should also note the difference between "being good" in this instance and being a "good cop" in general; if this is where they drew the line, where did they not draw the line? It's the eternal dilemma of whether it does more good fig...
by elasto
Tue Mar 19, 2019 3:31 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: British EU referendum in June [update: Leave wins 52% - 48%, politics ensue]
Replies: 1390
Views: 224268

Re: British EU referendum in June [update: Leave wins 52% - 48%, politics ensue]

It's also a bloody disgrace that the Tories (and probably the other parties too, had they been in power) are too scared of losing votes in a new election to call another referendum, especially since there's now much more clarity about the consequences than there was in 2016. Not to mention the fact...
by elasto
Mon Mar 18, 2019 10:06 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: British EU referendum in June [update: Leave wins 52% - 48%, politics ensue]
Replies: 1390
Views: 224268

Re: British EU referendum in June [update: Leave wins 52% - 48%, politics ensue]

OTOH, if the UK is still contributing heavily to the EU budget during the extension period, which surely we would have to (in fact the talk is the EU may impose penalty charges), it'd be a bit rough not to get a say at all. No taxation without representation and all that. But, yeah, it's an absurd s...
by elasto
Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:29 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: The Darker Side of the News
Replies: 4476
Views: 662737

Re: The Darker Side of the News

This would be an example of where right and left-wing social media activists have tactics that are not dissimilar. While right-wing social media activists attempt to rally around a shared social identity/experience based on race or nationality, left-wing social media activists attempt to rally aroun...
by elasto
Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:53 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: British EU referendum in June [update: Leave wins 52% - 48%, politics ensue]
Replies: 1390
Views: 224268

Re: British EU referendum in June [update: Leave wins 52% - 48%, politics ensue]

I get the impression that there is more to it. Labour has internal divisions, and quite some of their MPs would have voted against. Presumably, enough to lose the vote. In that case, the vote would not accomplish anything , but it would expose the internal fault line in a way that might not be repa...
by elasto
Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:02 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: British EU referendum in June [update: Leave wins 52% - 48%, politics ensue]
Replies: 1390
Views: 224268

Re: British EU referendum in June [update: Leave wins 52% - 48%, politics ensue]

I presume it's something along the lines that if that amendment passed, the motion as a whole would then have been shot down and we'd be out of time. That actually does make sense. I guess that's the difference between an amendment and primary legislation: Could be pointless (or even counterproduct...
by elasto
Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:25 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: British EU referendum in June [update: Leave wins 52% - 48%, politics ensue]
Replies: 1390
Views: 224268

Re: British EU referendum in June [update: Leave wins 52% - 48%, politics ensue]

Problem is that parliament can't agree on anything. Parliament taking control over the Brexit process means that Parliament would be negotiating with the EU (by proxy, but still). There is nothing that Parliament can come up with, which will carry a majority and not cross any EU red line. I'm not s...
by elasto
Thu Mar 14, 2019 5:07 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: British EU referendum in June [update: Leave wins 52% - 48%, politics ensue]
Replies: 1390
Views: 224268

Re: British EU referendum in June [update: Leave wins 52% - 48%, politics ensue]

Tusk has tweeted this, he's pushing for a long extension: https://twitter.com/eucopresident/status/1106115929539334144) Wow, I seriously didn't expect that. That's pretty generous of their negotiating team (even though it may not come to pass). Britain has to come with a proper plan when asking the...
by elasto
Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:34 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: British EU referendum in June [update: Leave wins 52% - 48%, politics ensue]
Replies: 1390
Views: 224268

Re: British EU referendum in June [update: Leave wins 52% - 48%, politics ensue]

Short version. No deal will happen no matter what. The only feasible way out is that parliament votes for May's deal eventually. Round 3 is already planned. If that doesn't go horribly, there's going to be a round 4. That's pretty much the EU's view: A European Commission spokesperson said: "T...
by elasto
Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:10 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: British EU referendum in June [update: Leave wins 52% - 48%, politics ensue]
Replies: 1390
Views: 224268

Re: British EU referendum in June [update: Leave wins 52% - 48%, politics ensue]

I'm pretty sure that parliament has the right under EU law to unilaterally cancel Brexit. But that would be politically infeasible unless they paired it with a second referendum. If they did everything you say and nothing else then we'd default to a no-deal Brexit since parliament already legislated...
by elasto
Wed Mar 13, 2019 4:13 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: British EU referendum in June [update: Leave wins 52% - 48%, politics ensue]
Replies: 1390
Views: 224268

Re: British EU referendum in June [update: Leave wins 52% - 48%, politics ensue]

The UK parliament has once again rejected May's deal. The EU insists there can be no more negotiation and lays blame directly at the UK and the fact that "parliament did not decide, or rather was never consulted about, what kind of Brexit it wanted before negotiations began - even when everyone...
by elasto
Mon Mar 11, 2019 6:53 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: The Darker Side of the News
Replies: 4476
Views: 662737

Re: The Darker Side of the News

I was speaking of today's hard-left - the activists you find everywhere in the media, in politics and so on. They are extremely keen to use the state to impose their worldview on the majority, and tick off many of the items on your list. Could you give examples of some of these people, and the worl...
by elasto
Mon Mar 11, 2019 3:49 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: The Darker Side of the News
Replies: 4476
Views: 662737

Re: The Darker Side of the News

Natraj: What does 'aoc' mean? Let me point out that I don't consider Bernie to be hard-left, for example. I am a European, and in my political terms he's still pretty right-wing. I'd consider myself to be to the left of him despite having voted for the 'right-wing' choice in my own country... No, it...
by elasto
Mon Mar 11, 2019 3:15 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: The Darker Side of the News
Replies: 4476
Views: 662737

Re: The Darker Side of the News

I for one wasn't speaking of socialism, because that isn't hard-left. Nor was I speaking of communism or Nazism - both of which are a mix of hard-left and hard-right. I was speaking of today's hard-left - the activists you find everywhere in the media, in politics and so on. They are extremely keen ...
by elasto
Mon Mar 11, 2019 2:43 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: The Darker Side of the News
Replies: 4476
Views: 662737

Re: The Darker Side of the News

What??? How? Those things aren't leftism, which is explicitly egalitarian while fascism is explicitly anti-egalitarian. Why are you talking of leftism? I explicitly said the hard-left. Rightism isn't authoritarian in nature any more than leftism is until you get to the extremes. In fact, one of the...
by elasto
Mon Mar 11, 2019 2:12 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: The Darker Side of the News
Replies: 4476
Views: 662737

Re: The Darker Side of the News

There's something that really creeps me out about your statement. I agree that a woman's body autonomy should prevail over other arguments, but that shouldn't negate the fact that a man may desire to become a father. Sure, he's poor, unemployed, and probably not good at parenting, but he's also a h...
by elasto
Mon Mar 11, 2019 10:08 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: The Darker Side of the News
Replies: 4476
Views: 662737

Re: The Darker Side of the News

It's fascism. Everything on the right makes more sense when you remember that they are fascists. https://medium.com/nonzerosum/umberto-eco-ur-facism-9d9cc1e9f317 Almost all of those points equally apply to the hard left though. Which makes sense because the hard left and the hard right are both inc...
by elasto
Tue Mar 05, 2019 6:06 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Breastfeeding and bodily autonomy thought experiment
Replies: 33
Views: 2636

Re: Breastfeeding and bodily autonomy thought experiment

Yes, from the OP's own response here . Apologies, I went back and reread the thread and just saw that too. But they did clarify by saying "For the record, I do think that the mother should be obliged to feed her child, but I just can't prove it to myself. The reasoning is not self evident I th...
by elasto
Tue Mar 05, 2019 5:32 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Breastfeeding and bodily autonomy thought experiment
Replies: 33
Views: 2636

Re: Breastfeeding and bodily autonomy thought experiment

And if you try to discuss this situation on its own without asking questions about, for example, systemic issues that brought this scenario about, you're asking incredibly simplistic and boring philosophy questions. Well, to be frank, you could make the same charge of a lot of philosophy questions ...
by elasto
Mon Mar 04, 2019 11:57 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Breastfeeding and bodily autonomy thought experiment
Replies: 33
Views: 2636

Re: Breastfeeding and bodily autonomy thought experiment

That being said, while it's certainly no ideal, a five day old infant is capable of surviving for two days without being fed. Hydration is actually of much greater concern - plain water would suffice for that. Next on the list would be exposure; keep them from being overly hot or cold. Does the mot...
by elasto
Mon Mar 04, 2019 2:21 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Breastfeeding and bodily autonomy thought experiment
Replies: 33
Views: 2636

Re: Breastfeeding and bodily autonomy thought experiment

If you don't pay your taxes you'll end up in jail, which is one of the stronger acts against someone's bodily autonomy there is. Technically, that's the right to liberty, not bodily autonomy. You give up that right when you choose to commit a crime. But yes, it is an example of rights being given u...
by elasto
Sun Mar 03, 2019 2:50 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Breastfeeding and bodily autonomy thought experiment
Replies: 33
Views: 2636

Re: Breastfeeding and bodily autonomy thought experiment

Bodily autonomy has nothing to do with paying taxes. Of course it does. If you don't pay your taxes you'll end up in jail, which is one of the stronger acts against someone's bodily autonomy there is. It is about a humans right to deny outside entities from interfering with their body, or acting on...
by elasto
Sun Mar 03, 2019 12:18 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Breastfeeding and bodily autonomy thought experiment
Replies: 33
Views: 2636

Re: Breastfeeding and bodily autonomy thought experiment

What an odd debate all around. Whilest the benefits might get oversold, breast milk is evolved over hundreds of millions of years to contain all the nutrients a baby needs, most likely including nutrients we don't know about yet (eg. there was a time formula didn't contain any omega fatty acids). Bu...
by elasto
Wed Feb 27, 2019 4:41 pm UTC
Forum: Science
Topic: What if the second law was breakable?
Replies: 71
Views: 3968

Re: What if the second law was breakable?

Solune: I absolutely loved that book! Must be 20 years since I read it though :/

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