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Just came back from it. Was all right? More-or-less what I expected. I wasn't very happy with the ending. Much like other people here, it seems obvious this is Strange's plan. Especially after he made such a big deal of sacrificing Tony and/or Spider Man to save the stone. Also as soon as they &...

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That's a pretty good idea.

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Due to not checking the fridge we have a way too many carrots. What should I make with them? Carrot cake doesn't use up enough. Soup is probably a good option but we just made tomato soup.

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Huh, I wonder if a tongue scraper would work for that. I don't think I've had that issue except with stomach bile or throwing up, where brushing my teeth didn't seem to resolve everything.

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Would you mind spoilering Thanos' plan as well? I don't believe that was described in the trailers, at least I didn't know this. We're watching it Friday night. I don't have particularly high hopes, but I think that's generally true for any Marvel film I watch. For most of them they're enjoyable and...

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I think the bots might just be watching? On reddit someone mentioned the purple color and that sound effect were how Anya's shield works.

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More likely classist. I posit that if these black business-men were dressed for business instead of beards and sweatpants there wouldn't have been an incident. They are certainly free to present themselves as low-class thugs, but then they shouldn't expect to be treated positively when they refuse ...

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Perhaps you should specify you're talking about season 2.

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Ugh, I hate when I plan to do something and it just doesn't seem to work because of distractions or just random mistakes. I'm sure the carbonara turned out good though.

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Which is why natraj provided a lengthy post explaining why people do these things, and the blind spots people with privilege have with regards to the consequences a POC can suffer from an encounter with the police. Anyway, this meta-discussion isn't super relevant.

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I'm not sure what's the point of your post. You say sometimes business managers don't have a choice but to call the authorities - but calling the authorities was a mistake based on mismanagement and racism here (as admitted to by Starbucks themselves). Perhaps instead of bringing in more people with...

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Made some fried rice last night with a bunch of veggies. Turned out pretty decent.

Having friends for dinner tonight so making some roasted potatoes, something with asparagus, and cauliflower with tahini.

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But the problem isn't that the police arrested two people for refusing to leave a place that technically they weren't legally allowed to be in, the problem is that Starbucks called the cops because two black people had the audacity to be in a Starbucks during business hours. You are really into pin...

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Whether everything here was done by the book or not is irrelevant. I think asking the question, "Did this situation result from the protocols police follow, or from police not following their protocols?" is a very relevant question on the Police Misbehavior Thread. What you get for quote ...

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Ah yes, the police, the organization that never has any failure following on their exacting processes.

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Despite your very dramatic post:
1. You know that's not what actually happens.
2. I already wrote if there's no procedure for this, a new one should be created.

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I don't know? If they can't, maybe they should? Whether everything here was done by the book or not is irrelevant. A business being able to call police on two people who aren't being disruptive in any way, and police then detaining them for nine hours, is not an acceptable way to run things. If curr...

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The cops could literally take them in handcuffs/escort them out and just leave them a block away. They were detained for NINE HOURS because they decided to meet for coffee with a friend.

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Yeah, I get that you're saying this is a reasonable and sensible process. I disagree.

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I'm not interested in playing "who's the worst". But yeah, there's absolutely no reason for these people to spend the night in jail. Honestly there's no reason for the two of them not to be escorted out of the store and that's it - why do you need to do anything else to them?

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"It's hard to be critical of the police" in this case means you basically are OK with people having to spend the night in jail for no reason other than their blackness. Like, if everything went "by the book", that's an acceptable and reasonable result?

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My brother's been in town so we went out a lot instead of cooking stuff. But Saturday night I made Smitten Kitchen's fig newtons recipe. The dough was a bit finicky to deal with at first but after I put in the freezer for ~8 minutes it was much easier to work with. I liked the recipe overall, but I ...

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You could also eat a raisin or spit to change your size instantly!

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Can't be that terrible, a thumb isn't even a tenth of your size!

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This forum is for issues with the forum itself, not the website. Your best best (which I find unlikely to work very well...) is to send an e-mail to davean from the About page. That being said, I use feedly on my phone with (I think) the standard RSS feed and it has a button to "show image capt...

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You misunderstand addams. It's not that I don't give a shit about police misbehavior. I'm tired of explaining people's misreadings of my posts.

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Ugh, I don't give a shit anymore.

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As I have explicitly said a program to reduce police violence across the board will lead to fewer deaths than a program that just targets racial profiling, my only conclusion is I am writing in a foreign language and you are unable to understand my words.

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<stuff> That is literally what I wrote. For the THIRD time: POLICE HAVE MANDATORY TRAINING. THEY CAN BE TRAINED ON MULTIPLE THINGS. POLICIES CAN BE MODIFIED. YOU CAN TRAIN POLICE TO ARREST AND CONFRONT FEWER BLACK PEOPLE. YOU CAN TRAIN POLICE NOT TO USE DEADLY FORCE SO READILY. I hope that was clea...

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You are comparing deaths resulting from mob violence and a disease with deaths done by murderous cops and deaths done by murderous cops. And again you're talking about this as a false dichotomy, as if one issue must be treated before the other, when both will achieve what people are interested in, a...

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We were watching a Voyager holodeck episode yesterday and my husband was talking about how he can't think of a holodeck episode he enjoys, and it's something he appreciates about Discovery. On the one hand, the holodeck was definitely overused in TNG and Voyager, no argument there. On the other hand...

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Yes, that's why I said we should do those two things that you mentioned in the post you directly replied to, and the one before that.

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Because they are separate problems that require different solutions to fix. Focus on getting cops to stop harassing black people, and that solves the problem of black people being killed more often. I guarantee you police organizations go through extensive training and are perfectly capable of deve...

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Umm, no zohar, the point is that the cops are harassing black people more often; the deaths are a symptom of that, rather than the direct result of a murderboner that cops get at the sight of black men. Why are you opposed to having two separate issues? Cops kill too many people, and they can kill ...

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I remember the original discussion we had and I disagree with your analysis of the numbers. The point stands - they're capable of doing better, and they're not.

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I'm not sure I understand your point. Police brutality is a recurring issue. We know it can be curbed by policy and training. We know it's avoidable since it doesn't happen in every single encounter. So it should be done. I'm not sure what else you're arguing about.

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The fact police are able of arresting violent white men armed with guns means they can do the same with black men. The rates by which it happens are irrelevant.

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@Zohar Rewatch the video of the Mesa Arizona police killing the terrified white guy. Police shoot unarmed black people more often because they interact with black people more often and thus end up in fight or flight mode with black people more often. You could argue that part of it is because due t...

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Also somehow their brain still manages to function when it's a white person.

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Oh, interesting. I appreciated season 1 overall, though it's hard for me to say I actively enjoyed it.

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