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by HungryHobo
Fri Feb 20, 2015 8:56 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Chapel Hill Muslim family murdered in possible hate crime
Replies: 73
Views: 14412

Re: Chapel Hill Muslim family murdered in possible hate crim

I edited my post with two easy-to-find examples from other (white) mass murderers. (And the puppy screenshot turns out to have been fake, so I removed it from my post and from the discussion.) Gmal.... I was away from this forum for 4 or 5 years. I remembered you as the slayer of bad arguments back...
by HungryHobo
Sun Feb 15, 2015 11:40 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Chapel Hill Muslim family murdered in possible hate crime
Replies: 73
Views: 14412

Re: Chapel Hill Muslim family murdered in possible hate crim

One dimentional people are much easier for the media, someone who spends years obsessing and writing a set of manifestos blaming [race] or [religion] while being horrible to everyone and then go and murder lots of people... they're easy. Someone who is a bit of a dick, does some good things, some ba...
by HungryHobo
Sat Feb 14, 2015 10:08 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Chapel Hill Muslim family murdered in possible hate crime
Replies: 73
Views: 14412

Re: Chapel Hill Muslim family murdered in possible hate crim

Which I guess is why the imdb has it filed under crime, drama, and thriller. I don't really remember anything to laugh about, at all. Both the wiki and the reviews talk a lot about the gallows humor and describe it as a dark comedy. Which matches my memory of it. It's not the normal american in you...
by HungryHobo
Sat Feb 14, 2015 1:44 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: The Darker Side of the News
Replies: 4639
Views: 726084

Re: The Darker Side of the News

And the 0.5% number was the one I accepted as correct. But you calculated the expected rate of all murders of trans people and concluded that six consecutive weeks of trans black women being murdered wasn't really all that out of the ordinary. (The average skew toward black victims roughly balances...
by HungryHobo
Fri Feb 13, 2015 5:01 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Existence of the Patriarchy
Replies: 202
Views: 49690

Re: Existence of the Patriarchy

Seriously, I can provide quotes Given you can't even get his name right. http://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=2119 If you’ve been following this at all, then please, please, please read Scott Alexander’s tour-de-force post. To understand what it was like for me to read this, after all I’ve been thr...
by HungryHobo
Fri Feb 13, 2015 4:36 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Existence of the Patriarchy
Replies: 202
Views: 49690

Re: Existence of the Patriarchy

The difference is that in the Israeli case the law would allow men to accuse their victims of statutory rape, which is nonsensical; the Indian case is about rape in general. again... that seems to be your... very loose interpretation of the article and nothing I see there implies that. it lists rap...
by HungryHobo
Fri Feb 13, 2015 4:01 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Existence of the Patriarchy
Replies: 202
Views: 49690

Re: Existence of the Patriarchy

would allow adult male rapists to use the language that child victims can and claim that, “she made me do it.” again, no more than is the case in countries with gender neutral rape laws. If you go to the police about some guy in the US he can try claiming he was the real victim and never gave conse...
by HungryHobo
Fri Feb 13, 2015 3:28 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Existence of the Patriarchy
Replies: 202
Views: 49690

Re: Existence of the Patriarchy

However, this proposed change is dealing with statutory rape . This is a type of rape where consent is abrogated not by overt coercion, but by the inability of one participant to legitimately consent. So it would make absolutely no sense to try and amend this law to also address adult-woman-on-adul...
by HungryHobo
Fri Feb 13, 2015 1:50 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: The Ethics of Genetic Engineering
Replies: 215
Views: 47412

Re: The Ethics of Genetic Engineering

We don't have units of ingenuity but some people are demonstrably better at coming up with novel practical ideas, better at solving real world technical problems, better at understanding complex systems, faster at learning new material and those people tend to be what people would call highly intell...
by HungryHobo
Fri Feb 13, 2015 1:33 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Chapel Hill Muslim family murdered in possible hate crime
Replies: 73
Views: 14412

Re: Chapel Hill Muslim family murdered in possible hate crim

He used to watch a movie about a man who goes on a shooting rampage over and over again. His ex-wife said he found the film hilarious. I have very little to add about the specific case... other than when I see things described like this it sets off alarm bells for me. As in cutting carefully around...
by HungryHobo
Fri Feb 13, 2015 12:25 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Existence of the Patriarchy
Replies: 202
Views: 49690

Re: Existence of the Patriarchy

The way it's written, women could be easily charged with rape if they admit that intercourse happened, even if any sane person could see that the man raped the woman. Like, if a man murdered the woman forcibly violating her, with a gun and everything, the worst kind of rape that even died-in-the-wo...
by HungryHobo
Thu Feb 12, 2015 6:04 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Existence of the Patriarchy
Replies: 202
Views: 49690

Re: Existence of the Patriarchy

I found the following paragraph to be the memorable bit So, for example, we are told that the patriarchy causes male rape . We are told that if we want to fight male rape, the best way to do so is to work hard to promote feminist principles. But once feminism has been promoted, the particular femini...
by HungryHobo
Thu Feb 12, 2015 5:48 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: The Darker Side of the News
Replies: 4639
Views: 726084

Re: The Darker Side of the News

Your numbers are way off, anyway, Hobo. To quote somebody who made a good argument and convinced me to go with a higher figure than the one I'd previously been going with: 0.4% is the number I'm personally going to accept as reliable going forward. (It may even be an underestimate for the reasons d...
by HungryHobo
Thu Feb 12, 2015 5:19 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: The Darker Side of the News
Replies: 4639
Views: 726084

Re: The Darker Side of the News

Firstly, the original claim is not based on statistical analysis. It is based on a series of murders that apparently are targeting transgender women because of their sexual identity. Whether this is true or not is another matter, but if it is happening - and it is happening here in South Afric a - ...
by HungryHobo
Thu Feb 12, 2015 3:39 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: The Darker Side of the News
Replies: 4639
Views: 726084

Re: The Darker Side of the News

Is it even valid to scale national statistics down to a small number of cases over a short time period like this? I'm no sociologist, but clustering like this happens by chance a good deal more than intuition would suggest, so I would imagine the confidence intervals would be too wide to make meani...
by HungryHobo
Thu Feb 12, 2015 3:33 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: The Ethics of Genetic Engineering
Replies: 215
Views: 47412

Re: The Ethics of Genetic Engineering

"Eugenics" covers literally everything from governments forcible sterilizing people to parents choosing embryo that won't lead to a child who's skin falls off, to parents choosing to edit out a mutation that would cause colorblindness to ,indirectly, you personally when you choose a partn...
by HungryHobo
Thu Feb 12, 2015 12:34 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1485: "Friendship"
Replies: 78
Views: 17767

Re: 1485: "Friendship"

I took bromance to be more a gentle mocking of the macho "Totally Not Gay" guys who insist they're not gay but have actually fallen for each other. 2 guys in a friendship: "friendship" 2 gay guys in a friendship: "friendship" 2 gay guys in a romance: "romance"...
by HungryHobo
Thu Feb 12, 2015 12:06 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: The Darker Side of the News
Replies: 4639
Views: 726084

Re: The Darker Side of the News

I agree, I was just expanding on the grim context as otherwise people might think there was a serial killer on the loose.
by HungryHobo
Thu Feb 12, 2015 10:55 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: The Darker Side of the News
Replies: 4639
Views: 726084

Re: The Darker Side of the News

hmm. so in the us there's 14,827 murders per year in the US. If it was completely random (it's not) you'd still expect at least 74 of them to be trans (0.5%) or an average of about 3 every 2 weeks. But then few of those 0.5% are out. There's also a heavy skew towards murder victims being poor and bl...
by HungryHobo
Thu Feb 12, 2015 10:25 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: The Ethics of Genetic Engineering
Replies: 215
Views: 47412

Re: The Ethics of Genetic Engineering

Intelligence is a multifaceted thing, and for that reason is notoriously hard to quantify. My sister is a brilliant physicist. I personally believe that much of her brilliance is due to the fact that her dyslexic brain processes and organizes information in non-traditional ways. Would a eugenicist ...
by HungryHobo
Wed Feb 11, 2015 7:00 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: The Ethics of Genetic Engineering
Replies: 215
Views: 47412

Re: The Ethics of Genetic Engineering

negative socioeconomic influences AKA lumping together all the other factors. You know what's not tenuous or controversial? The effect environment has on IQ. Right, so you've made it clear. you're simply arguing against a strawman. Solved. lovely. Lets make it clear. I utterly utterly agree that if...
by HungryHobo
Wed Feb 11, 2015 6:35 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: The Ethics of Genetic Engineering
Replies: 215
Views: 47412

Re: The Ethics of Genetic Engineering

I think what you may be struggling with is the assumption that I'm implying heritability has nothing to do with intelligence. I'm claiming no such thing. I'm being quite specific in what I'm actually claiming. Right, you do however keep downplaying it and phrasing things such as to imply that it is...
by HungryHobo
Wed Feb 11, 2015 6:07 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: The Ethics of Genetic Engineering
Replies: 215
Views: 47412

Re: The Ethics of Genetic Engineering

" intelligence *is* heritable, but it also accounts for *less* than the variation you see between family members anyway, the variation you see between random members of the population, and variation you see due to environmental factors." you keep repeating that as if you think you're maki...
by HungryHobo
Wed Feb 11, 2015 5:29 pm UTC
Forum: Science
Topic: Whats happening in MS patients?
Replies: 71
Views: 13426

Re: Whats happening in MS patients?

to police the medical system and prevent mistakes. Where would writing "NO! OTHER LEG! NO!" in permanent black marker on the leg that isn't supposed to be amputated fall on this scale.... My mother always reads her charts and double checks everything she's been proscribed because junior d...
by HungryHobo
Wed Feb 11, 2015 5:00 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: The Ethics of Genetic Engineering
Replies: 215
Views: 47412

Re: The Ethics of Genetic Engineering

Why can't loyalty be developed faster? To steelman the position, imagine we bred for intelligence similarly to how people have bred for egg weight in chickens in the past. you can get a lot of returns in a small number of generations but eventually it tops out and you also find you have ultra-aggre...
by HungryHobo
Wed Feb 11, 2015 4:12 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: The Ethics of Genetic Engineering
Replies: 215
Views: 47412

Re: The Ethics of Genetic Engineering

Variability between individuals in a given family is pretty significant, but you know what's more significant on intelligence? Environmental toxin exposure and poverty. You want to raise the collective IQ of our civilization, stop blathering about GE or eugenics or mandatory breeding programs - sta...
by HungryHobo
Wed Feb 11, 2015 1:23 pm UTC
Forum: Science
Topic: Whats happening in MS patients?
Replies: 71
Views: 13426

Re: Whats happening in MS patients?

Basically, while doctors may have more overall knowledge about medicine in general, they may not have a deeper understanding of your own particular case. Also being a doctor isn't the same as being a scientist or being exceptionally good at critical thinking and woo detection. Or reading research p...
by HungryHobo
Wed Feb 11, 2015 10:23 am UTC
Forum: Science
Topic: Whats happening in MS patients?
Replies: 71
Views: 13426

Re: Whats happening in MS patients?

Unfortunately this world also contains lazy small-town doctors who don't care. Or local doctors who just are utterly unfamiliar with particular conditions. It can very very much be worth having a couple of family members who know if there's some promising trials starting or, at the most basic level,...
by HungryHobo
Tue Feb 10, 2015 6:39 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: The Ethics of Genetic Engineering
Replies: 215
Views: 47412

Re: The Ethics of Genetic Engineering

That's an odd sentence to quote when complaining about "completely unsubstanciated statements",Izawwlgood. I would have expected a one of the more flimsy ones but if you really want me to dig for research papers on how much high-IQ individuals care for their parents.... So I guess this is ...
by HungryHobo
Tue Feb 10, 2015 5:59 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: The Ethics of Genetic Engineering
Replies: 215
Views: 47412

Re: The Ethics of Genetic Engineering

If only condoms caused pregnancy rather than prevented them (and people were otherwise sterile), so that only the people who could figure out how to use them could breed... While some models suggest a very small very gradual decline in human intelligence over hundreds of generations currently it's ...
by HungryHobo
Tue Feb 10, 2015 4:41 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: The Ethics of Genetic Engineering
Replies: 215
Views: 47412

Re: The Ethics of Genetic Engineering

again, lets point to the basketball again. Same generation times, only slightly longer training times. http://slatestarcodex.com/2015/02/01/talents-part-2-attitude-vs-altitude/ We can do some very rough Fermi calculations for the next couple standard deviations. 34% of the US male population is 5’9 ...
by HungryHobo
Tue Feb 10, 2015 4:14 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: The Ethics of Genetic Engineering
Replies: 215
Views: 47412

Re: The Ethics of Genetic Engineering

Indeed, but using good old-fashioned selective breeding. The difficulty of extracting useful information from the human genome has consistently surprised people since the 1990's. In that respect it's more like nuclear fusion than Moore's law. Don't worry, I'm remarkably aware of the difficulty of t...
by HungryHobo
Tue Feb 10, 2015 3:52 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: The Ethics of Genetic Engineering
Replies: 215
Views: 47412

Re: The Ethics of Genetic Engineering

hey,
they already have a program to produce extra tall people for basketball.

I can see them doing something similar for intelligence. it follows the same sort of distribution and is similarly heritable.
by HungryHobo
Tue Feb 10, 2015 2:57 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: The Ethics of Genetic Engineering
Replies: 215
Views: 47412

Re: The Ethics of Genetic Engineering

Intelligence is not the same thing as value. Intelligence is not the same thing as ethics. Intelligence is *the* tool that allows effective understanding of values. Intelligence is *the* tool that allows effective consideration of ethics. Most of the best ethicists are also very intelligent people....
by HungryHobo
Fri Feb 06, 2015 5:24 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: What is (social) tolerance?
Replies: 39
Views: 15429

Re: What is (social) tolerance?

And if Bob wears see-through PVC and it offends Alice, Bob is unreasonable... depending on who you talk to. though we seem to have switched from "harm" to "offends" quite smoothly there. If they want to imply he's doing harm they'll talk about Bob being an "exhibitionist&quo...
by HungryHobo
Fri Feb 06, 2015 3:30 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: What is (social) tolerance?
Replies: 39
Views: 15429

Re: What is (social) tolerance?

Tolerance is actually fairly simple. "We should tolerate anything that does not cause any significant harm to others". Gay marriage? Doesn't harm you, no matter how much your gods say otherwise, so shaddup. People burning abortion clinics? That causes harm, not tolerated. People are remar...
by HungryHobo
Fri Feb 06, 2015 2:29 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: What is (social) tolerance?
Replies: 39
Views: 15429

Re: What is (social) tolerance?

Sometimes calling your own actions "tolerance" is just a way of sluring the other side. Personally I like the definition of If I had to define “tolerance” it would be something like “respect and kindness toward members of an outgroup”. Your real outgroup, not just people who are somewhat d...
by HungryHobo
Fri Feb 06, 2015 12:22 pm UTC
Forum: Science
Topic: Whats happening in MS patients?
Replies: 71
Views: 13426

Re: Whats happening in MS patients?

Everyone has a different way of dealing with it. Part of your way is to learn more about the disease and the treatment; there is nothing wrong with that. I advise you to bear in mind a few things, however. One, knowing more about the disease will not cure your girlfriend and will not bring the situ...
by HungryHobo
Fri Feb 06, 2015 11:50 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: In other news... (humorous news items)
Replies: 15152
Views: 2668639

Re: In other news... (humorous news items, etc)

What makes this doubly ironic is that most Far Left Far Right groups have the opposite goals but the same methods (horseshoe theory). I also quite like the Geo-libertarians who take the position that while you have the right to the fruits of your labor, your labor didn't make the land: ie, they hol...
by HungryHobo
Thu Feb 05, 2015 3:39 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: In other news... (humorous news items)
Replies: 15152
Views: 2668639

Re: In other news... (humorous news items, etc)

Also, players are now required to wear one of these. https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSjuM_ssdQDFXIZUDmHLP71HVCdrDF3LxO7qLdZippSi94NkrTk And instead of ice and ice skates, it will be a ball pit. And instead of sticks, they will have foam gloves. And instead of Hockey it will be...

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