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by The Great Hippo
Thu Nov 30, 2017 3:26 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Sexual Harrassment Epidemic
Replies: 538
Views: 38167

Re: Sexual Harrassment Epidemic

Hippo, the step you're missing in your analogous-paraphrase is where someone proposed banning money as a solution to your bat-people-beating-you-up-for-money problem, in which case bringing up all the legitimate uses of money is relevant. It doesn't solve your bat-people problem, but it rules out o...
by The Great Hippo
Thu Nov 30, 2017 3:10 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Sexual Harrassment Epidemic
Replies: 538
Views: 38167

Re: Sexual Harrassment Epidemic

"I think outlawing sexual relationships where there are power imbalances would have negative consequences on the prospects of legitimately consensual relationships where there are power imbalances . So it might not be a real solution without more refinement." "We're not talking about...
by The Great Hippo
Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:36 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Sexual Harrassment Epidemic
Replies: 538
Views: 38167

Re: Sexual Harrassment Epidemic

So the problem isn't the power imbalance, the problem is that the power imbalance creates a problem. Forgive me if that strikes me as a pedantic distinction. The problem is people are getting sexually harassed and sexually assaulted. They are getting sexually harassed and sexually assaulted because...
by The Great Hippo
Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:03 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Sexual Harrassment Epidemic
Replies: 538
Views: 38167

Re: Sexual Harrassment Epidemic

And the reason that's unacceptable is due to the power imbalance, correct? Nope. It's unacceptable because there's a strong likelihood that if you do it, you'll be engaging in some form of sexual assault or abuse. The more power you have over someone, the harder it becomes to determine whether or n...
by The Great Hippo
Wed Nov 29, 2017 11:45 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Sexual Harrassment Epidemic
Replies: 538
Views: 38167

Re: Sexual Harrassment Epidemic

Flag on the play: moving the goalposts. slinches was responding to a post which included the following: "Don't make sexual advances toward people who directly work for you or people who you have significant amounts of economic control over" seems like a pretty good place to start. Giving ...
by The Great Hippo
Wed Nov 29, 2017 10:31 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Sexual Harrassment Epidemic
Replies: 538
Views: 38167

Re: Sexual Harrassment Epidemic

That's only part of an effective solution. It helps punish bad behavior, but does nothing to promote good behavior. Supporting and believing people who claim to be harassed and/or abused isn't promoting good behaviour? It is more complicated than you're claiming. There are always power imbalances t...
by The Great Hippo
Wed Nov 29, 2017 8:46 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 6177
Views: 463880

Re: Trump presidency

At this point, if he started throwing out shit like "n*****" -- and people still gave him a pass for it? -- wouldn't even be surprised. I can already imagine the press conferences defending it; the blubbering sounds that would come out of Sean Hannity's fat head to justify it. If we someho...
by The Great Hippo
Wed Nov 29, 2017 8:31 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Sexual Harrassment Epidemic
Replies: 538
Views: 38167

Re: Sexual Harrassment Epidemic

What work should I go out and do to help solve this systemic social problem? When someone says that they've been harassed or abused, don't just dismiss it. When others dismiss it, speak up. When you see people around you -- people you work with, people you interact with -- objectifying, demeaning, ...
by The Great Hippo
Wed Nov 29, 2017 5:32 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Sexual Harrassment Epidemic
Replies: 538
Views: 38167

Re: Sexual Harrassment Epidemic

But that power imbalance is *not* the cause of the abuse. There is a power imbalance to one degree or another in any work place in the world where workers have a boss (which is most work places). And since the great majority of those bosses manage to refrain from groping, harassing, or making unwel...
by The Great Hippo
Tue Nov 28, 2017 9:07 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 6177
Views: 463880

Re: Trump presidency

It wasn't just 'misrepresentation' it was trying to feed a fake story to WaPo, that's a lot further than most undercover reporters go, who usually are undercover to be able to report on some sort of malpractice/fraud they find in business or government. This wasn't just misrepresentation, it was en...
by The Great Hippo
Tue Nov 28, 2017 10:49 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 6177
Views: 463880

Re: Trump presidency

Like penetration testing in computer security. You're trying to see if something you want to rely on (the computer system or the media) would fail in the face of certain kinds of attacks, by perpetrating those attacks, and then rather than exploiting that weakness for your own gain, publishing the ...
by The Great Hippo
Thu Nov 23, 2017 4:45 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Crossing Divides - A Social Platform
Replies: 76
Views: 10009

Re: Crossing Divides - A Social Platform

This is another quandary I have. When I talk to people, most of them will readily agree that our polarization, our tribalness, our filter bubbles and echo chambers are a big problem. And they shrug and say, "What can we do? It's human nature." How can we all know it's a problem but have n...
by The Great Hippo
Thu Nov 23, 2017 3:35 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 6177
Views: 463880

Re: Trump presidency

It's really easy to not accept any of this evidence if the personalities you trust either ignore those accusations completely, or insist that it's all lies meant to disparage Moore and his socially conservative base. Hardly anyone actively seeks out information that challenges their beliefs. This m...
by The Great Hippo
Thu Nov 23, 2017 1:12 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 6177
Views: 463880

Re: Trump presidency

If you genuinely believe Moore is innocent, it's reasonable to still support him. It's a position I disagree with, but I don't see those who hold it as human garbage (or worse). How many accusers are we up to, now? Twelve? All with credible stories corroborated by friends, family, and coworkers? Co...
by The Great Hippo
Wed Nov 22, 2017 1:51 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 6177
Views: 463880

Re: Trump presidency

You sound like a Christian. Fuck that. Unlike you, I don't have pretensions of pacifism. So I don't get my hate on when things don't go the way I would like. We'll see who is what come December 12. ... Hippo, Hillary had choices available to her that most women don't. She didn't have to carry Bill'...
by The Great Hippo
Wed Nov 22, 2017 8:20 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 6177
Views: 463880

Re: Trump presidency

Last I heard the plan was to elect Moore, then get the Senate to shut him out, making the governor select a new (Republican) candidate. I'm sure a lot of people voting for Moore would be hoping for that outcome. Whether the Senate would actually do that or not... People are supporting him. And not ...
by The Great Hippo
Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:24 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 6177
Views: 463880

Re: Trump presidency

It's not child rapist vs Democrat, it's one man who has abused a dozen or so teens 30+ years ago vs another who wants to murder thousands of babies if we elect him. Like, so what -- if his opponent was extremely anti-abortion, they'd all suddenly accept the accusations made against Moore? What sort...
by The Great Hippo
Wed Nov 22, 2017 5:41 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 6177
Views: 463880

Re: Trump presidency

I appreciate that you feel strongly about this. But you can't walk away from it, she would have put a sexual predator in the White House. I had a choice between a woman married to a sexual predator and a man who is a sexual predator. I picked the woman. I don't blame anyone who said "Nope, not...
by The Great Hippo
Wed Nov 22, 2017 3:07 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 6177
Views: 463880

Re: Trump presidency

For what it is worth most the GOP politicians in Congress has repudiated Moore and asked him to quit(although not the case with the President). Not that it really makes me like the GOP pols any better but it does seem Moore crossed a line with them. The voters on the other hand.... It helped, a lit...
by The Great Hippo
Wed Nov 22, 2017 2:17 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 6177
Views: 463880

Re: Trump presidency

I know a few people who decided not to vote partly because of President Clinton's infidelity. They didn't want that sort of shit attached to the first female president. Because this looks so much better in the history books, right? I'd hope it would be the allegations of sexual assault and predator...
by The Great Hippo
Wed Nov 22, 2017 1:49 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 6177
Views: 463880

Re: Trump presidency

I'm just going to remind you that a number of Democrats made just that calculation when they voted for Hillary. That would have put Bill back in the White House as first husband. There is ample evidence that he was a sexual predator. Certainly Hillary herself made that calculation when she chose to...
by The Great Hippo
Wed Nov 22, 2017 12:13 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 6177
Views: 463880

Re: Trump presidency

This kind of talk is how Trump got elected. Like I'm not even exaggerating. He preyed on people's desires for simplistic confident solutions. There is no part of my brain that thinks violence would solve any of this. Also, I'm extremely skeptical that Trump got elected on the basis of a constituenc...
by The Great Hippo
Tue Nov 21, 2017 11:02 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 6177
Views: 463880

Re: Trump presidency

I feel like we'd all be better off if the Republican party ceased to exist. I don't know about that far, but I certainly think it would be better for the human race in general if the current breed of republican would age out of office, or be replaced with...just about anyone else who isn't Republic...
by The Great Hippo
Tue Nov 21, 2017 9:55 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 6177
Views: 463880

Re: Trump presidency

Trump on Alabama Race: We Don't Need a Democrat in the Seat . I don't even know what to say at this point, anymore. There are evangelicals in Alabama backing Moore. Backing him. There's a chance he might actually win the election. I kept hoping, y'know, at some point -- people might finally say: &q...
by The Great Hippo
Sun Nov 12, 2017 7:45 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 6177
Views: 463880

Re: Trump presidency

...could Putin possibly be gas-lighting Trump? If so, wow, that's some next-level shit.
by The Great Hippo
Thu Nov 02, 2017 5:14 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 6177
Views: 463880

Re: Trump presidency

The relevant stuff, if your intent is to establish a connection to Trump, happened prior to 2014. ...but, again, why would this be your intent? Getting people to flip on other people isn't about establishing a connection between them; it's about finding enough dirt on one of them so you can get the...
by The Great Hippo
Wed Nov 01, 2017 2:41 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 6177
Views: 463880

Re: Trump presidency

Except that the stuff Manafort allegedly did all took place between 2006 and 2014... which means that it's a bit of a reach to infer a connection with the 2016 Trump campaign. At least legally. Even if this was the case (and it's apparently not?), Manafort was part of Trump's presidential campaign....
by The Great Hippo
Tue Oct 31, 2017 6:35 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 6177
Views: 463880

Re: Trump presidency

Because news of the indictment is more important to them than the actual indictment. They're beating the grass to startle the snakes. There is simply no way a special prosecutor and his team of a dozen investigators are going to be even remotely satisfied with Manafort and this list of charges afte...
by The Great Hippo
Tue Oct 31, 2017 10:16 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 6177
Views: 463880

Re: Trump presidency

The timing of the charges is a little suspect, too. Just when things are turning ugly for the Democrats over the Fusion GPS deal, Mueller jumps out with "We're filing an indictment! Look over here! Oh, but we won't tell you all about it until Monday. Still ... look this way all weekend. Talk a...
by The Great Hippo
Fri Sep 22, 2017 4:26 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Antifa & neo-Nazi Ned in: "Too Many Violence?"
Replies: 409
Views: 40152

Re: Antifa & neo-Nazi Ned in: "Too Many Violence?"

Is that what everyone thinks? Is that what everyone will continue to think if we let Nazis continue to publicly promote genocide? "Better to let the Nazis think people aren't really that opposed to them than make them think twice before appearing in public." "Better to show vulnerabl...
by The Great Hippo
Thu Sep 07, 2017 7:47 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Statue Removal--the Saga Continues
Replies: 17
Views: 5334

Re: Statue Removal--the Saga Continues

Not to Godwin the thread, but if the medical community can decide to change the names of things named by Nazis, then surely they can acknowledge that you shouldn't have statues of people who experimented on slaves/other minorities. But isn't that, like, ALL medical researchers prior to the 20th cen...
by The Great Hippo
Thu Sep 07, 2017 7:40 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Let's talk about race, 2017 edition
Replies: 177
Views: 22241

Re: Let's talk about race, 2017 edition

Right, and an element of race that tends to get lost in the "race isn't real" sub-discussion: Racism presumes race is real, and defines your race for you . For example: It doesn't really matter if you're not Arab; if you "look" Arab, you'll be exposed to anti-Arab racism. I do th...
by The Great Hippo
Thu Sep 07, 2017 1:32 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Let's talk about race, 2017 edition
Replies: 177
Views: 22241

Re: Let's talk about race, 2017 edition

But a policy like that would help the poor; you improve the middle class, and they have more money for nannies, gardeners, maids, etc. So you really aren't doing a good job on selling the whole "harming the middle class is beneficial to the poor" thing. So, I'm completely lost regarding t...
by The Great Hippo
Thu Sep 07, 2017 12:57 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Let's talk about race, 2017 edition
Replies: 177
Views: 22241

Re: Let's talk about race, 2017 edition

I think that adding institutional racism to counter institutional/structural racial inequality is a dangerous path. Using racially non-discriminatory policies may not be quite as direct, but that path doesn't risk breeding contempt for minorities among the poorer of the majority population when one...
by The Great Hippo
Thu Sep 07, 2017 12:36 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Let's talk about race, 2017 edition
Replies: 177
Views: 22241

Re: Let's talk about race, 2017 edition

Sorry, but it seems clear to me that the real problem is beliefs and policies (such as critical race theory or identity politics) that encourage people to see themselves has victims, and rewards them when they do. And of course, if there is a victim there must also be an oppressor, and we all know ...
by The Great Hippo
Wed Sep 06, 2017 9:55 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Let's talk about race, 2017 edition
Replies: 177
Views: 22241

Re: Let's talk about race, 2017 edition

Stupid question. Is inequality that's the result of internal culture, e.g., Jehovah's Witnesses refusing higher education, a form of structural inequality? I suspect that it's mostly a matter of semantics? We differentiate institutionalized racism from more 'naturally occurring' racism because the ...
by The Great Hippo
Tue Sep 05, 2017 11:46 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Let's talk about race, 2017 edition
Replies: 177
Views: 22241

Re: Let's talk about race, 2017 edition

I somehow thought that might be the case. Well toodles. I can provide you with statistics on interracial murders if they're important to you; I just don't see the relevance of those statistics when I'm specifically talking about police and government sanctioned murder/incarceration rates. I'm also ...
by The Great Hippo
Tue Sep 05, 2017 8:47 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Let's talk about race, 2017 edition
Replies: 177
Views: 22241

Re: Let's talk about race, 2017 edition

Yeah your right. We should discuss who is killing who. You got any statistics? How many people killed in interracial murders? How many killed by white supremacist's? I'm not really interested in going down the rabbithole of 'interracial murders', because I think that's a little too complex for the ...
by The Great Hippo
Tue Sep 05, 2017 6:51 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Let's talk about race, 2017 edition
Replies: 177
Views: 22241

Re: Let's talk about race, 2017 edition

I suspect I already know the response this post will engender, but I am not offering it as an argument to change your minds or sway your opinions; I know that will not happen. I am simply providing it as a public service. If you want to know why more and more people are ignoring--or even worse, *em...
by The Great Hippo
Sun Sep 03, 2017 6:10 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Antifa & neo-Nazi Ned in: "Too Many Violence?"
Replies: 409
Views: 40152

Re: Trump presidency

Then there's nothing left to discuss. There's no need to drag something out if you agree with the core principles of my words. I don't agree that political violence is on the rise, and I don't agree that Trump was right to say that 'all sides' have committed violence (in the same sense that I don't...

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