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by Technical Ben
Sat Jan 12, 2013 9:57 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Religion: The Deuce
Replies: 5301
Views: 587054

Re: Religion: The Deuce

I'll go look up and double check I've not missed it. I'm actually agreeing with you it means "to give for the sake of another", but I see no "destroy/loss" in that statement. Then you're mistaken in your understanding of what I'm saying — in English there is a semantic differenc...
by Technical Ben
Sat Jan 12, 2013 9:33 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Definition of Free Will
Replies: 728
Views: 152080

Re: Definition of Free Will

I think you gave the right answer there. The "mechanism is you". So an argument over what is free and what is will is really without any gain in my opinion. Either way the mechanism has no other definition than "us" as the ones it applies to and who is the mechanism. Even if we a...
by Technical Ben
Fri Jan 11, 2013 9:47 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Government's Right to Impose Religious Restrictions
Replies: 246
Views: 47791

Re: Government's Right to Impose Religious Restrictions

Yep. I agree on that. Is this a location ban? I guess it is. The clothing is only banned in schools? Now, there is a difference though. It is a fear of robbery and deceit that prevents one hiding their face (hats and head coverings are not excluded though I add) in these instances. As I asked, if it...
by Technical Ben
Fri Jan 11, 2013 9:40 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Definition of Free Will
Replies: 728
Views: 152080

Re: Definition of Free Will

Here is a problem for you. I would be interested in how those of the viewpoint on the inability to make "free will" choices see the problem or illustration. I have a table in front of me. It has a cup with water in it balanced on some scales with a fruit on the other side. If I take the cu...
by Technical Ben
Fri Jan 11, 2013 9:05 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Government's Right to Impose Religious Restrictions
Replies: 246
Views: 47791

Re: Government's Right to Impose Religious Restrictions

Left and right is indistinguishable so much so we could not describe it mathematically to someone we are unable to show it to . I'm not sure that that article is rigorous enough proof to make that claim. Any word is indistinguishable from any other word if we continually rule out words we're not al...
by Technical Ben
Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:57 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Religion: The Deuce
Replies: 5301
Views: 587054

Re: Religion: The Deuce

Why does sacrifice require permanent loss? Why can it not be a gift? If the bible says "sacrifice" but is defined by a historic definition, is that a failure of the bible, or a failure of us to understand the historic application? Did the Hebrews see sacrifice as requiring loss, or just r...
by Technical Ben
Wed Jan 09, 2013 10:19 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Religion: The Deuce
Replies: 5301
Views: 587054

Re: Religion: The Deuce

? To not give you anything is not a sacrifice, that we can agree. But do we agree that to give you something is a sacrifice, as it is me doing more than the other action? I wouldn't agree with that. If you have an infinite amount of something, or even an unlimited amount, to give it is not a sacrif...
by Technical Ben
Wed Jan 09, 2013 9:05 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Religion: The Deuce
Replies: 5301
Views: 587054

Re: Religion: The Deuce

The Great Hippo, the expression "omnipotence means omnipotence" is circular and not helpful to me. A better example is one from a dictionary, right? Omnipotence is infinite power, or power to an infinite value. It is not (as our comment put it) power to the value of power (omnipotence is o...
by Technical Ben
Tue Jan 08, 2013 11:35 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Religion: The Deuce
Replies: 5301
Views: 587054

Re: Religion: The Deuce

The Great Hippo, say we don't call the level of power infinite for a moment. To avoid me getting confused over what can be done with such power. Perhaps just give the value of n to "power". Does that comment on the operator we need to apply? That would be a separate statement would it not?...
by Technical Ben
Tue Jan 08, 2013 11:04 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Government's Right to Impose Religious Restrictions
Replies: 246
Views: 47791

Re: Government's Right to Impose Religious Restrictions

If they are incompatible, they contradict or exclude one another though. One of these laws cannot coexist along side the other in the same country can it? Thus there seems to be some "wrongness" somewhere. Nonsense. The rule that cars must drive on the right is incompatible with the rule ...
by Technical Ben
Tue Jan 08, 2013 10:29 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Religion: The Deuce
Replies: 5301
Views: 587054

Re: Religion: The Deuce

How does paying off a debt solve things? If someone looses something, how do they get it back? Does it change things to get the lost thing back? Are results instant when they get the debt paid off? If as people we lose the wage and payment of life, and die, is it not our desire or need to have a rep...
by Technical Ben
Tue Jan 08, 2013 10:02 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Religion: The Deuce
Replies: 5301
Views: 587054

Re: Religion: The Deuce

Thanks The Great Hippo. I really have learnt some new things about how others see the bible. Or general comments about God. I did not realize some of the steps others are taking in their understanding. It is less we disagree, and more we have moved positions as we go along a journey. If I am aiming ...
by Technical Ben
Mon Jan 07, 2013 10:26 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Religion: The Deuce
Replies: 5301
Views: 587054

Re: Religion: The Deuce

I'd just like to say thanks to everyone as the new tone of the thread is very much appreciated. I hope I am doing better in both how I explain my beliefs and observations, and also how I get that conversation and communication across. From what I can tell, desire and need are the same thing in the b...
by Technical Ben
Mon Jan 07, 2013 8:48 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Government's Right to Impose Religious Restrictions
Replies: 246
Views: 47791

Re: Government's Right to Impose Religious Restrictions

Both positions are rational. Just born out of different contexts. Just because the attitudes are different, doesn't imply theres a right or a wrong. If they are incompatible, they contradict or exclude one another though. One of these laws cannot coexist along side the other in the same country can...
by Technical Ben
Mon Jan 07, 2013 7:53 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Religion: The Deuce
Replies: 5301
Views: 587054

Re: Religion: The Deuce

[edit] Sorry, clicked the wrong page and answered the wrong post. My mistake. Have spoilered the reply if it's still relevant to the discussion. Thanks yurell. At the very least the God of the bible is defined. Rather specifically and in detail from what I can see. Would you not agree the God of the...
by Technical Ben
Mon Jan 07, 2013 8:27 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Religion: The Deuce
Replies: 5301
Views: 587054

Re: Religion: The Deuce

Let's take a different example: Say I let my young child ride around on a bike, but I don't absolutely protect them from falling and scraping up their knee? If I can reasonably predict that such a scrape will happen, then we have the same scenario as above, but with scrapes instead of dislocated ar...
by Technical Ben
Mon Jan 07, 2013 8:17 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Government's Right to Impose Religious Restrictions
Replies: 246
Views: 47791

Re: Government's Right to Impose Religious Restrictions

Are you saying such people are not rational, but instead bias due to the influence of either state? As assuming both countries have average of people born in it with the same abilities to form world views, what divide causes one country to say prohibition is ok and the other it is not? Unless we can...
by Technical Ben
Sun Jan 06, 2013 11:11 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Religion: The Deuce
Replies: 5301
Views: 587054

Re: Religion: The Deuce

*(Which is not difficult to consider, a book writer or computer programmer is "god" to their creation and both able to interact with, while unable to be proven within, as they are not part of that "universe".) Unless you're doing some sort of literary role-playing and identify a...
by Technical Ben
Sun Jan 06, 2013 7:41 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Scientists Achieve Negative Temperature in Quantum Gas
Replies: 20
Views: 4205

Re: Scientists Achieve Negative Temperature in Quantum Gas

This has some interesting implications to some concepts to me. If some systems increase in order when we put energy in, does that change our view of entropy in relation to energy states as a whole? (Even if by that I mean the layman's understanding that entropy should increase with energy increases....
by Technical Ben
Sun Jan 06, 2013 6:14 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Religion: The Deuce
Replies: 5301
Views: 587054

Re: Religion: The Deuce

If we can observe the earth though, we can make one of two choices. To get better observations, and thus hopefully more accurate and "correct" knowledge of it, or not to observe it. Likewise, if God exists and has an ability to interact with the universe* then God can also be "observe...
by Technical Ben
Sun Jan 06, 2013 5:57 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Religion: The Deuce
Replies: 5301
Views: 587054

Re: Religion: The Deuce

Thanks for your reply TGH and Trasvi. Do you truly not understand that there is a huge difference between "I am not a woman, but I believe that women exist" and "I have not seen the entire world be flooded, but I believe it happened" ? Yes. I have no actual scientific way to prov...
by Technical Ben
Thu Dec 27, 2012 6:10 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Religion: The Deuce
Replies: 5301
Views: 587054

Re: Religion: The Deuce

I never claimed all of the bible is verifiable by science. Just as all of the hot dinners we have ever eaten or all the time we spend with our family is. But both the bible and our time spent eating dinner with our family are proven in part to exist and be true by verifiable means in science. No, t...
by Technical Ben
Thu Dec 27, 2012 5:15 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Religion: The Deuce
Replies: 5301
Views: 587054

Re: Religion: The Deuce

Thanks Kulantan. But the argument seems to be over when the flood happened, not if. The argument is over the scope of the flood, not if. I believe you are mistaken. Almost everyone else in this thread is contending whether or not the flood happened — we all accept that there have been multiple floo...
by Technical Ben
Sun Dec 23, 2012 3:46 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Religion: The Deuce
Replies: 5301
Views: 587054

Re: Religion: The Deuce

Thanks Kulantan. But the argument seems to be over when the flood happened, not if. The argument is over the scope of the flood, not if. Both the Babylonian historic record and the archeological finds show there was a large cataclysmic flood in the area. When it comes down to dating, I have either t...
by Technical Ben
Sun Dec 23, 2012 3:26 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Religion: The Deuce
Replies: 5301
Views: 587054

Re: Religion: The Deuce

If you wish to show me how to reason and accept "science's" (although I believe you mean "the group of people and the culture of science") viewpoint, such comments are not engaging to me, are they? If someone said their mother called them last Tuesday, we don't s...
by Technical Ben
Sun Dec 23, 2012 2:05 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Religion: The Deuce
Replies: 5301
Views: 587054

Re: Religion: The Deuce

So, what is the level of evidence or reasonable confirmation (say logic, maths, historic records etc) that a global flood would call for? We already agree there were large floods in the past. That some or at least one of these was during the time of human record (thus the historic, though verbal his...
by Technical Ben
Sun Dec 23, 2012 9:17 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Religion: The Deuce
Replies: 5301
Views: 587054

Re: Religion: The Deuce

The Great Hippo, Moses never parted the Red Sea. God did on Moses (and Israels) behalf. Okay. So the claim is that God parted the Red Sea. Prove it. With science. If you wish to show me how to reason and accept "science's" (although I believe you mean "the group of people and the cul...
by Technical Ben
Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:55 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Shooting at CT Elementary School
Replies: 540
Views: 54937

Re: 27 dead in Shooting at CT Elementary School

Some of the ones I was looking to go to as a kid (over 15 years ago :P ) did not have that many entrances and did have keycards to libraries and certain sections. But they were large secondary schools, not small primary schools. The local out of city schools were the opposite. Hence my example of bo...
by Technical Ben
Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:41 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Religion: The Deuce
Replies: 5301
Views: 587054

Re: Religion: The Deuce

DSenette, I choose to concentrate on what I can, see the length of my posts. I really need to consider if I can keep to one line answers. :P The story of Gilgamesh sounds interesting. I find two problems with it. One, it has "gods" who have super human power, but sub human intelligence. I...
by Technical Ben
Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:33 pm UTC
Forum: Gaming
Topic: Kerbal Space Program
Replies: 728
Views: 333491

Re: Kerbal Space Program

We're not going to support the current patcher anymore. We're working on a completely new one, and in the meantime, we've made the game available as a full download from Amazon. Should be quicker and much less painful to just download a 400mb-ish zip file. Thanks for not pirating the game. :) Cheer...
by Technical Ben
Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:09 pm UTC
Forum: Science
Topic: What bug is this?
Replies: 15
Views: 3229

Re: What bug is this?

You can post it here if you want more information. :P http://www.whatsthatbug.com/ask-whats-that-bug/
I thought it was a type of ladybug from the first pictures. But I guess others are right in saying it's a Christmas beetle, as it's got more pronounced plates/wing cases.
by Technical Ben
Sat Dec 22, 2012 10:40 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Shooting at CT Elementary School
Replies: 540
Views: 54937

Re: 27 dead in Shooting at CT Elementary School

(I'm no expert, but from what I've seen) I think higher security buildings in general are harder to get in and run around in. Things like security doors with key codes/badges. While not impervious, do slow things down. Add to that floor/building divides and keys only for the floor/building of use, m...
by Technical Ben
Sat Dec 22, 2012 10:10 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Religion: The Deuce
Replies: 5301
Views: 587054

Re: Religion: The Deuce

I only say that as personally, from what I've seen and read, the bible (or Hebrews) were extremely strict in this regard. If they had a method of remembering genealogy before writing was used, would it have been hap hazard or very well done? If it was all that accurate why did they stop. An unbroke...
by Technical Ben
Thu Dec 20, 2012 10:44 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Religion: The Deuce
Replies: 5301
Views: 587054

Re: Religion: The Deuce

As you posted while I was typing, I'll quickly reply TGH. I don't "trust my priest" (any more than reasonable). I trust the bible (completely). It's written, data, verifiable, checkable. Just as the data by science we also put trust in. Okay. If this is true, we should be able to treat th...
by Technical Ben
Mon Dec 17, 2012 10:22 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Religion: The Deuce
Replies: 5301
Views: 587054

Re: Religion: The Deuce

DSenette, the same way you would check how the claim of a trip to the moon is true. Does it fit what you know to be within the limits of reality or science? Take for example the claim that Eve was from Adams "rib". Sounds mythical right? Well, how is it presented? As a myth, or a matter of...
by Technical Ben
Mon Dec 17, 2012 9:58 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Religion: The Deuce
Replies: 5301
Views: 587054

Re: Religion: The Deuce

Thanks Ubik. But how are those not all also historical checks? If it's a historical check, why is it more scientific for tree rings, lake sediments, carbon decay, then checking a persons ability to record dates? What is the error range in someones counting of days and years? Or of recorded dates in...
by Technical Ben
Mon Dec 17, 2012 6:22 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Religion: The Deuce
Replies: 5301
Views: 587054

Re: Religion: The Deuce

Thanks Ubik. But how are those not all also historical checks? If it's a historical check, why is it more scientific for tree rings, lake sediments, carbon decay, then checking a persons ability to record dates? What is the error range in someones counting of days and years? Or of recorded dates in...
by Technical Ben
Sun Dec 16, 2012 9:17 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Religion: The Deuce
Replies: 5301
Views: 587054

Re: Religion: The Deuce

Thanks Ubik. But how are those not all also historical checks? If it's a historical check, why is it more scientific for tree rings, lake sediments, carbon decay, then checking a persons ability to record dates? What is the error range in someones counting of days and years? Or of recorded dates in ...
by Technical Ben
Sun Dec 16, 2012 1:55 pm UTC
Forum: Gaming
Topic: Kerbal Space Program
Replies: 728
Views: 333491

Re: Kerbal Space Program

This looks so beautiful. A great jump from the Alphas and Betas I played. Might get a copy with my next paycheck. :D
by Technical Ben
Sun Dec 16, 2012 1:45 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Shooting at CT Elementary School
Replies: 540
Views: 54937

Re: 27 dead in Shooting at CT Elementary School

reducing the prevalence of guns does seem to reduce gun violence, as you would predict Actual studies (as opposed to politically charged anecdotes) do not actually support this. True. I think most people just want to stop this type of event though. It's very sad and some way to help is usually desi...

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