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by morriswalters
Sat Jun 12, 2010 2:53 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: If you don't know, can it hurt you?
Replies: 76
Views: 7726

Re: If you don't know, can it hurt you?

Ambiguity is a function of the language not the philosophy. The problem is one of information. Language represents incomplete information. English has a poor signal to noise ratio because of ambiguity of meaning(I don't believe any language is much better). How do you state the philosophy in an unam...
by morriswalters
Sat Jun 12, 2010 2:21 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Nihilism, The Last Man
Replies: 88
Views: 11737

Re: Nihilism, The Last Man

I have a conceptual problem. If you propose that an AI could be developed and programmed in a way so as to benefit man to the exclusion of itself, is it alive? My reasoning is thus. Life exists. For life to continue to exist then continued existence must be the primary purpose of life. This is infer...
by morriswalters
Sat Jun 12, 2010 12:27 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: If you don't know, can it hurt you?
Replies: 76
Views: 7726

Re: If you don't know, can it hurt you?

If Utilitarianism is the greatest good for the greatest number then for cheating to be acceptable you would have to show that as a behavior it provides a greater good or greater happiness. Since cheating is a selfish behavior I find it difficult to state a condition where it serves a possible positi...
by morriswalters
Fri Jun 11, 2010 9:57 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Defining the function of Society
Replies: 8
Views: 6346

Defining the function of Society

I offer the following as a starting point for a discussion. I would be interested in seeing what other people think. In this context society and government are almost interchangeable. The discussion is about purpose not implementation. Societies exist because they offer individuals benefits difficul...
by morriswalters
Fri Jun 11, 2010 7:51 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Does the Lotto make people blind and stupid?
Replies: 183
Views: 21601

Re: Does the Lotto make people blind and stupid?

This is complex so I may not get it completely right. It's not complex. If two people win, you need to split the pot. This possibility reduces your average expected winnings. Your buying the possibility of winning not the expectation of winning. Therefore the number of people you might have to shar...
by morriswalters
Fri Jun 11, 2010 6:15 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Does the Lotto make people blind and stupid?
Replies: 183
Views: 21601

Re: Does the Lotto make people blind and stupid?

Lotto acts like a very good plot device. I think that serves the purpose well. Lotto does make people figuratively blind and stupid, but not all of them. Anyone can just play for fun, but you can ignore those guys since there are some people who aren't having fun yet flushing money on the toilet. A...
by morriswalters
Thu Jun 10, 2010 11:18 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Does the Lotto make people blind and stupid?
Replies: 183
Views: 21601

Re: Does the Lotto make people blind and stupid?

The number comes from the operators of the lottery. The number is independent from the play. The odds are determined from the number of possible combination's of winning numbers. But your prospective winnings from the jackpot decrease as the number of people playing increase, which skews your odds ...
by morriswalters
Thu Jun 10, 2010 6:47 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Does the Lotto make people blind and stupid?
Replies: 183
Views: 21601

Re: Does the Lotto make people blind and stupid?

I argued that it didn't matter and that it is equally unlikely that you will win no matter number you play. The people who had taken statistics classes argued that because you hit the number it was less likely to come up again, because the odds of a number coming up twice in a row were very high. Y...
by morriswalters
Thu Jun 10, 2010 5:07 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Does the Lotto make people blind and stupid?
Replies: 183
Views: 21601

Re: Does the Lotto make people blind and stupid?

Time to move on. Yakk you seem to bound and determined to think that I don't understand how unlikely it is that I will win the lottery.(The number is 1 in 195,249,054.00) It seems as if you choose to assume that I would not buy lottery tickets if I perceived the odds as well as you do and that becau...
by morriswalters
Thu Jun 10, 2010 1:31 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: If you don't know, can it hurt you?
Replies: 76
Views: 7726

Re: If you don't know, can it hurt you?

Frame the question in better terms and apply it to your dilemma. Look at your assumptions in a behavioral context. Receiving a reward reinforces a behavior, in this case sex is the reward and cheating the behavior. Each time you get away with the behavior you reinforce it. Eventually the reinforceme...
by morriswalters
Thu Jun 10, 2010 9:18 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Does the Lotto make people blind and stupid?
Replies: 183
Views: 21601

Re: Does the Lotto make people blind and stupid?

There is a conceit here. Am I to believe that anything which doesn't show a positive return on the balance sheet, is "foolish"? So by the logic in place here, movies, games, dining out, books, sporting events, in point of fact, any activity not related to acquiring wealth, is "foolis...
by morriswalters
Thu Jun 10, 2010 12:29 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Nihilism, The Last Man
Replies: 88
Views: 11737

Re: Nihilism, The Last Man

Again, I point out that HT's world primarily relies on ousting cruelty to the AI. Cruelty, dominance, and such evils still exist (destruction of everything but that which relies on the chemicals and mental state of hedonic pleasure), but its servants are free from its actions and implications. Ther...
by morriswalters
Wed Jun 09, 2010 9:31 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Nihilism, The Last Man
Replies: 88
Views: 11737

Re: Nihilism, The Last Man

Hedonic Treader The point about removing intelligence that I was making is not about removing pain or pleasure. The example would be not to change that skunks stink, rather it is to remove the ability to wonder why the skunk stinks. However I need to look at Hedonism a bit closer before I walk off t...
by morriswalters
Wed Jun 09, 2010 9:16 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Does the Lotto make people blind and stupid?
Replies: 183
Views: 21601

Re: Does the Lotto make people blind and stupid?

There is a conceit here. Am I to believe that anything which doesn't show a positive return on the balance sheet, is "foolish"? So by the logic in place here, movies, games, dining out, books, sporting events, in point of fact, any activity not related to acquiring wealth, is "foolish...
by morriswalters
Wed Jun 09, 2010 2:46 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Market Anarchy
Replies: 209
Views: 22687

Re: Market Anarchy

I believe that the initiation of violence is never warranted, sure, but that has nothing to do with whether or not the argument against the initiation of violence can be applied consistently and universally. Yes, you can. You're trying to criticize violence under the ludiculous premise that moral s...
by morriswalters
Wed Jun 09, 2010 1:44 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Does the Lotto make people blind and stupid?
Replies: 183
Views: 21601

Re: Does the Lotto make people blind and stupid?

The lottey is no more of an investment than a hand at the blackjack table. It's a gamble. While you personally may be able to interchange those two words without causing any long term ill effects, the two words simply are not synonymous. I argue that any financial transaction involving money can be...
by morriswalters
Wed Jun 09, 2010 12:24 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Market Anarchy
Replies: 209
Views: 22687

Re: Market Anarchy

I'm sorry, I wasn't clear. When I say absolute isolation I mean without any social context. And? Drunkenness can still be morally unacceptable if you're on a desert island. Then there's the better example of dietary codes. Does living on a desert island excuse a Muslim eating pork or a vegetarian e...
by morriswalters
Tue Jun 08, 2010 3:50 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: The basis of ethics and morality
Replies: 148
Views: 14878

Re: The basis of ethics and morality

Ok, I was intrigued to see a mention of Ayn Rand in this discussion, and as I consider myself an objectivist, I'd like to address some issues regarding logic. Why is logic logical? What does the question "Why is logic logical?" mean? I would interpret to mean why is the study of reasoning...
by morriswalters
Tue Jun 08, 2010 4:20 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Market Anarchy
Replies: 209
Views: 22687

Re: Market Anarchy

Vaniver wrote:
morriswalters wrote:Can you name anything that is moral or immoral for one man in absolute isolation?
Under many moralities, yes. For example, someone who considers drunkenness immoral could get drunk in absolute isolation.


I'm sorry, I wasn't clear. When I say absolute isolation I mean without any social context.
by morriswalters
Tue Jun 08, 2010 3:40 am UTC
Forum: General
Topic: INTRO THREAD THE THIRD
Replies: 10845
Views: 1868737

Re: INTRO THREAD THE THIRD

Hi,

I'm Morris Walters, I'm old , ugly and opinionated.

I like Science Fiction(old)
My Kindle
And being alive.

Toodles
by morriswalters
Mon Jun 07, 2010 10:17 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Market Anarchy
Replies: 209
Views: 22687

Re: Market Anarchy

People alter their whims, wants, and actions without a moral system - so a purely internal morality continues to seem entirely conceptually unneccessary. Why would we need a description for a concept that at most means to change your mind? For that reason, I should say it already has more significa...
by morriswalters
Mon Jun 07, 2010 5:52 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Does the Lotto make people blind and stupid?
Replies: 183
Views: 21601

Re: Does the Lotto make people blind and stupid?

I invest 4 dollars a week playing the lottery, sometimes less. It brings me amusement. I can afford it. And I don't plan my life around it. That investment is classified as a high risk investment. I will probably lose my investment. If however, that risk pays off, then I will recoup my investment ba...
by morriswalters
Mon Jun 07, 2010 5:18 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Nihilism, The Last Man
Replies: 88
Views: 11737

Re: Nihilism, The Last Man

I like to believe that I am reasonably intelligent, but this thread has my head spinning. I gather, and I apologize if I am wrong, that Hedonic Treader believes that in pursuit of pleasure man can find meaning. And that the most effective way to do that is to let an Uber Intelligence filter reality ...
by morriswalters
Sun Jun 06, 2010 7:29 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Market Anarchy
Replies: 209
Views: 22687

Re: Market Anarchy

Government is voluntary, even though it may be difficult to see it that way. Immigration is a manifestation of that. In addition participation in society is variable. Some people participate fully, some are invisible. As an individual you have a number of choices. You can participate to whatever deg...
by morriswalters
Sun Jun 06, 2010 1:03 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Market Anarchy
Replies: 209
Views: 22687

Re: Market Anarchy

I have read this thread with interest. I'll comment on the thread title first. If the title refers to the economic philosophy talked about in the Wikipedia then I wonder at the ability of Philosophers to create nonsense and publish with a straight face. I'll argue this in detail if anybody wishes to...
by morriswalters
Fri Jun 04, 2010 8:42 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: The basis of ethics and morality
Replies: 148
Views: 14878

Re: The basis of ethics and morality

Is reproduction what you think that rape is about? That's interesting. Okay, I'll play. If reproduction is the point of the rape than it is moral for the rapist. However not for the group. The stability of the group comes from not having to defend the pairings within the group. By offering this to m...
by morriswalters
Fri Jun 04, 2010 5:31 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: The basis of ethics and morality
Replies: 148
Views: 14878

Re: The basis of ethics and morality

I was unsure about how to enter this discussion. So I thought that I would put forth a statement of what I believe as a starting point. I believe that Ethics/Morals are social constructs developed by societies to reduce conflicts thereby making it easier to live in groups. They have no absolute mean...

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