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by Eutychus
Sun Jun 30, 2013 10:00 pm UTC
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Topic: 1190: "Time"
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Re: 1190: "Time"

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by Eutychus
Sun Jun 30, 2013 9:51 pm UTC
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Angua wrote:Could the silence of their night mean anything?


It's Christmas Eve? (something for the astromathematicians to chew over...) :D
by Eutychus
Sun Jun 30, 2013 9:40 pm UTC
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However, an obvious possibility is the northern shore of an expanded (due to sea level rise) San Pablo Bay flooding into the Napa Valley, and the Napa River. Problems, though: the bay has several feet of tide (what would it take to close off the Golden Gate to turn the bay into an inland sea?), and...
by Eutychus
Sat Jun 29, 2013 8:06 pm UTC
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What are the three stars in a line that have swung into view at the top right? That looks like Orion's belt to me but I'm not able to situate it compared to other constellations...

[ETA foilman: ooooooooooh!]
by Eutychus
Sat Jun 29, 2013 8:00 pm UTC
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GONG.
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by Eutychus
Sat Jun 29, 2013 7:38 pm UTC
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NoMouse wrote:Meteor!


Yes, but after my premature (but prescient) "discovery" of a star that turned out to be dust on my monitor, I had to check it wasn't cat hair.
by Eutychus
Sat Jun 29, 2013 6:06 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1190: "Time"
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That seals the case for far-future. Now to see if there are any other dates besides 13291-04-10. I've asked this before, but I don't think any of the resident astronomers have answered: is it not just as possible (from an astronomical point of view) that it's in the far past ? /Still a Randallversa...
by Eutychus
Sat Jun 29, 2013 6:02 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1190: "Time"
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Just popped in for a second to help a tribe member. At the top of any page, look for text like this: Post a reply First unread post • 38759 posts • Page 969 of 969 Click on the last bit: Page xxx of yyy. You will get a form to fill in with a page number. It will take you directly there. Hi to all. ...
by Eutychus
Sat Jun 29, 2013 5:25 pm UTC
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Topic: 1190: "Time"
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Back on page 199 there is talk of the text directly beneath the name. It is fairly interesting talk. So does anyone have a quick and simple way of reaching page 199? http://forums.xkcd.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=101043&start=7920 Last number is [page wanted-1]*40 Great, thanks!
by Eutychus
Sat Jun 29, 2013 5:09 pm UTC
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AmONG other things...

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by Eutychus
Sat Jun 29, 2013 5:07 pm UTC
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Topic: 1190: "Time"
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TheMinim wrote:Back on page 199 there is talk of the text directly beneath the name. It is fairly interesting talk.
So does anyone have a quick and simple way of reaching page 199?
by Eutychus
Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:47 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1190: "Time"
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Hah!

"Mustard growing in a Napa Valley vineyard" :D

Spoiler:
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by Eutychus
Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:35 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
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If this really is set 11000 years in the future, it makes me think of Ursula K. Le Guin's book called Always Coming Home. Has anyone read it? It's also set something like that time, and it features a sparsely populated Earth. I can't think of any other congruences, though. The Napa valley, on which...
by Eutychus
Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:08 pm UTC
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If we could only find the river. We had quite a bit of detail about the river mouth layout didn't we? But things could have changed a lot in 11000 years so he could have adjusted for it. For those looking for things that might have survived 10,000 years across a band of the US, I think waterfalls o...
by Eutychus
Sat Jun 29, 2013 11:43 am UTC
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Topic: 1190: "Time"
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I have some non-astronomical questions about the 13291 date. It seems unlikely that Megan and Cueball would build sandcastles that so closely resemble our stylised idea of castles over 10,000 years later. It also seems unlikely that a specific type of headgear - LaPetite's beret - should have stood ...
by Eutychus
Sat Jun 29, 2013 7:03 am UTC
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Well either he heard something, or he needs a wee.
by Eutychus
Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:29 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1190: "Time"
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Finally, to add to the music collection, can I suggest What a wonderful world ? Or possibly Israel Kamakawiwoʻole's mashup of it with Somewhere over the rainbow ? Well, Eutychus, I hope this meets your expectations. My first commissioned OTTificaparotimeodyfilk. Original song link is above in quote...
by Eutychus
Fri Jun 28, 2013 5:50 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1190: "Time"
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Finally, to add to the music collection, can I suggest What a wonderful world ? Or possibly Israel Kamakawiwoʻole's mashup of it with Somewhere over the rainbow ? Well, Eutychus, I hope this meets your expectations. My first commissioned OTTificaparotimeodyfilk. Original song link is above in quote...
by Eutychus
Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:15 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1190: "Time"
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Re: 1190: "Time"

This talk of multi-millennial axial precession reminds me again of The Clock of the Long Now . That would be as neat and wow a thing as an astronomical observatory for Megan and Cueball to find atop the mountain. The current active and planned clock locations for the Long Now project are both in No...
by Eutychus
Fri Jun 28, 2013 7:28 am UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1190: "Time"
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BlitzGirl wrote:Aha! It is Earth! And has been all along!


Back to front though. That probably explains all those problems with hemispheres and the direction in which the sun set :D
by Eutychus
Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:13 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1190: "Time"
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I am going to have to coma now. I can't add much to the science or astronomy so I'll just have to add my musings. I agree with those who find this series of newpix particularly beautiful as the stars wheel across the night sky. That anomaly is something too. Imagine that we did get a universe swap-o...
by Eutychus
Thu Jun 27, 2013 8:08 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1190: "Time"
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BlitzGirl wrote:I think it's more likely we have the wrong Time. Where did "9:30 UTC" come from?

Here. Don't ask me for an explanation!
by Eutychus
Thu Jun 27, 2013 8:03 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1190: "Time"
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I think the apparent lack of moon rules out the eastern hemisphere. We're looking at west africa if the moon appears in the next frame or two (about 1/3 from the left) or central america if it appears in about 5 or more frames (around the center of the frame). But look at the SunCalc graphic. Your ...
by Eutychus
Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:57 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1190: "Time"
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Re: 1190: "Time"

I think the apparent lack of moon rules out the eastern hemisphere. We're looking at west africa if the moon appears in the next frame or two (about 1/3 from the left) or central america if it appears in about 5 or more frames (around the center of the frame). But look at the SunCalc graphic. Your ...
by Eutychus
Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:51 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1190: "Time"
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Re: 1190: "Time"

thirds wrote:Again, if your time of 9:30am UTC is correct, they have to be somewhere around the Solomon Islands or Papua New Guinea to be seeing the sunset.


The SunCalc app I found confirms this.
by Eutychus
Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:38 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1190: "Time"
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Here is something I just found that I think lets you play with various sun trajectories for Kieryn's proposed date...
by Eutychus
Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:33 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1190: "Time"
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thirds wrote:North of the Tropic of Cancer (!) the sun always sets L->R. South of the Tropic of Capricorn, the sun always sets R->L. In between, it depends on the season.
This is making my head hurt. So if it's November and in the southern hemisphere...?
by Eutychus
Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:25 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Thanks for that explanation.

If I'm wrong and this is Earth, is this the start of a new doomsday cult? :shock:
by Eutychus
Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:16 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1190: "Time"
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Kieryn wrote:Seeing as the moon has not shown up it yet, I think it really puts it in the western hemisphere.
What about the Baobabs? And this sun-setting-left-to-right business

/Still a Randallversalist or at least a Cassinist

[edit: ninja'd on the baobabs]
by Eutychus
Thu Jun 27, 2013 6:48 pm UTC
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mscha wrote:
Kieryn wrote:Australia, early November. 9:30 AM UTC.
EDIT: (That's around 7.30 pm local time)

Also - the position of venus indicates that it is THIS year.

Won't that conjunction occur again far into the future (or past)?
by Eutychus
Thu Jun 27, 2013 6:11 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1190: "Time"
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Kieryn wrote:It's actually ONG earth!
Maybe it's the Earth Mark 2.

/can we go looking for fjords in Africa and/or artificial dinosaur skeletons?
by Eutychus
Thu Jun 27, 2013 5:27 pm UTC
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I've just had a thought about that mysterious glow below and to the left of the "sun" as it set.

Could it have been the reflection of the sun off the Sea*?

*big, remember.
by Eutychus
Wed Jun 26, 2013 4:35 pm UTC
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Ok. My 2nd theory, if not clouds and assuming that the darkening is actually due to a setting sun: The changing lighting indicates to me that a larger brighter sun actually already just set and the one remaining is a smaller not quite as bright star. I am now completely confused about hemispheres b...
by Eutychus
Wed Jun 26, 2013 4:18 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1190: "Time"
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Ok. My 2nd theory, if not clouds and assuming that the darkening is actually due to a setting sun: The changing lighting indicates to me that a larger brighter sun actually already just set and the one remaining is a smaller not quite as bright star. I am now completely confused about hemispheres b...
by Eutychus
Wed Jun 26, 2013 3:52 pm UTC
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Topic: 1190: "Time"
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Yes I am astronomically minded... Its coming down fairly steeply at about 30 degrees from virtical - we must be looking roughly west for this to happen. This must be in the southern hemisphere, and between 10 degrees south (at Northern Summer solstice) and 50 degrees south (at Southern Summer solst...
by Eutychus
Wed Jun 26, 2013 3:30 pm UTC
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Topic: 1190: "Time"
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Wai i it... is the Sun getting smaller? Is it going away, thus causing the darkness and the strangeness of tides? ETA: And the cold? i t for It certainly looks as if it's getting smaller to me. But it reminds me more of the videos of the recent Russian meteorite. If it's setting, can somebody more ...
by Eutychus
Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:01 am UTC
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Topic: 1190: "Time"
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Did Megan jump because of their curious reluctance to get immersed in water (like when Cueball held Megan back from the sea)?
by Eutychus
Mon Jun 24, 2013 7:03 pm UTC
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Anyway, a theory came to me about Cuegan over the weekend. I don't think I've seen it here so I'll share. These "simplified" versions of our characters are AI simulations inside a computer in the XKCD universe. They know facts out of context from their initial database and they're trying ...
by Eutychus
Mon Jun 24, 2013 3:52 pm UTC
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A "straight line home" may lead them into more unknown territory. Let us not forget Lucky. Such a predator came from somewhere, and in that place there may be more. A "straight line home" may very well lead through more, unknown dangers. I agree. But then again, Lucky apparently...
by Eutychus
Mon Jun 24, 2013 2:04 pm UTC
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How can it be quicker to go home from the top of the mountain than to turn round?

And why has the Book of Aubron suddenly stopped showing anything beyond the first 80 or so frames?

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