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by Belial
Mon Jul 14, 2014 7:33 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Is White Dominance Exaggerated?
Replies: 348
Views: 63998

Re: Is White Dominance Exaggerated?

So if you're wondering how white people can still wield disproportionate societal power in countries where they are not, in fact, a numerical majority (which is, let's be real, most of them):

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by Belial
Fri Jul 11, 2014 5:58 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Orange is the New Black gets gender bent IRL
Replies: 14
Views: 4043

Re: Orange is the New Black gets gender bent IRL

Question: wouldn't a male officer be charged with rape or something similar? Past performance would seem to indicate that a male officer would, 90% of the time, be charged with nothing at all. Then they need to crack down on it. Guard-prisonner sexual relations shouldn't happen, ever. Agreed, but u...
by Belial
Fri Jul 11, 2014 5:41 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Orange is the New Black gets gender bent IRL
Replies: 14
Views: 4043

Re: Orange is the New Black gets gender bent IRL

PolakoVoador wrote:Question: wouldn't a male officer be charged with rape or something similar?


Past performance would seem to indicate that a male officer would, 90% of the time, be charged with nothing at all.
by Belial
Wed Jul 09, 2014 6:51 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Mayday PAC against SuperPACs
Replies: 28
Views: 6557

Re: Mayday PAC against SuperPACs

Limiting spending is essentially limiting the amount of message propagation that occurs. It also helps the truly best candidates to be the ones who get elected. If somebody has a legitimately good idea, people will want to spread his/her campaign. Likewise, if someone is a bumbling idiot, people wi...
by Belial
Fri Jun 13, 2014 8:22 pm UTC
Forum: Food
Topic: Controversial opinions about food
Replies: 1068
Views: 190354

Re: Controversial opinions about food

Chicago style is fine, it's just different. Satisfies a different food craving.
by Belial
Tue Jun 03, 2014 8:37 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: 12-yo girls stab friend 19X to impress Slenderman (meme)
Replies: 44
Views: 15109

Re: 12-yo girls stab friend 19X to impress Slenderman (meme)

Considering that their account of the myth of SlenderMan is so bad, I think they're just bad Liars. There is no hierarchy of monsters, there are only creepy stories. You apparently didn't hang out with girls when you were in middle school. There's this weird feral mystical stage that a lot of them ...
by Belial
Tue Jun 03, 2014 6:48 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: 12-yo girls stab friend 19X to impress Slenderman (meme)
Replies: 44
Views: 15109

Re: 12-yo girls stab friend 19X to impress Slenderman (meme)

Considering that their account of the myth of SlenderMan is so bad, I think they're just bad Liars. There is no hierarchy of monsters, there are only creepy stories. You apparently didn't hang out with girls when you were in middle school. There's this weird feral mystical stage that a lot of them ...
by Belial
Fri May 23, 2014 3:56 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: [Trigger warning: classic literature]
Replies: 314
Views: 36567

Re: [Trigger warning: classic literature]

Can we please, as a thread, drop the "you can't effectively warn for every possible trigger therefore the idea of warning for any of them is stupid and should be abandoned" nirvana fallacy nonsense? Just, like, as a favor to my poor beleaguered neurons? It's not merely a nirvana fallacy. ...
by Belial
Fri May 23, 2014 3:53 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1357: "Free Speech"
Replies: 1346
Views: 159016

Re: 1357: "Free Speech"

So... you're just gonna continue not actually reading the thread or addressing any of the arguments therein? Honestly, no, I'm not interested in reading through 30 pages of message board debate on the topic. Speaking as someone who has followed the whole discussion from page 1, I can definitely sta...
by Belial
Fri May 23, 2014 3:45 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: [Trigger warning: classic literature]
Replies: 314
Views: 36567

Re: [Trigger warning: classic literature]

Can we please, as a thread, drop the "you can't effectively warn for every possible trigger therefore the idea of warning for any of them is stupid and should be abandoned" nirvana fallacy nonsense?

Just, like, as a favor to my poor beleaguered neurons?
by Belial
Thu May 22, 2014 4:15 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: [Trigger warning: classic literature]
Replies: 314
Views: 36567

Re: [Trigger warning: classic literature]

As far as I see it, if we can agree that "we have a list of triggers, we act toward the things on the list in this prescribed way" is a good policy, the content of the list is irrelevant to the validity of the policy. The content of the list can be decided (and redecided ad infinitum) ind...
by Belial
Thu May 22, 2014 3:00 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: [Trigger warning: classic literature]
Replies: 314
Views: 36567

Re: [Trigger warning: classic literature]

Just about everything else. Hippo covered why the "don't bother tagging violence" point is off-base (I will point out that the second most common cause of PTSD, after rape, is combat), so I guess I can cover the others. It seems to me that no one here is making an argument for the kind of ...
by Belial
Thu May 22, 2014 1:49 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: [Trigger warning: classic literature]
Replies: 314
Views: 36567

Re: [Trigger warning: classic literature]

Sigh. Did you seriously just use the words "forcible rape" like...a bunch of times? Like...as contrasted to all the other kinds?

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by Belial
Thu May 22, 2014 1:41 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: [Trigger warning: classic literature]
Replies: 314
Views: 36567

Re: [Trigger warning: classic literature]

From the handwringing professor in the article Okay, so you realize that that's a terrible source, right? The fact that this professor is vocally worrying about something does not imply that that's a thing that is actually going to happen, or even a thing anyone has suggested. In a similar article ...
by Belial
Thu May 22, 2014 5:42 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: [Trigger warning: classic literature]
Replies: 314
Views: 36567

Re: [Trigger warning: classic literature]

Because you can't know every possible trigger for every person in your class. How could you prepare for the fact that somebody in your class has a trigger to moths (as someone in this thread posted earlier)? And if the consequence of getting it wrong is a disciplinary hearing that could lead to you...
by Belial
Thu May 22, 2014 5:14 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: [Trigger warning: classic literature]
Replies: 314
Views: 36567

Re: [Trigger warning: classic literature]

That the theme EXISTS in the book is an assertion that may be controversial in many cases. For the purposes of avoiding triggers, if it looks and quacks like a duck, it counts. And that's still not a moral judgment. It's an acknowledgement of how triggers work. And you CAN'T just "play it safe...
by Belial
Thu May 22, 2014 4:13 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: [Trigger warning: classic literature]
Replies: 314
Views: 36567

Re: [Trigger warning: classic literature]

Im all for encouraging professors to think of their students' welfare. Im not at all in support of a mandated formulation, the topic of the OP , which would set up penalties that force teachers to choose between self censorship or facing lawsuits from any instance of trauma, even the real ones, tha...
by Belial
Thu May 22, 2014 3:16 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: [Trigger warning: classic literature]
Replies: 314
Views: 36567

Re: [Trigger warning: classic literature]

I'm not really sure why judgement on the level of individual professors is strictly better than judgment on the level of individual colleges (based on feedback from students). In fact, the entire reason institutions have policies on an institutional level is that sometimes things are better handled ...
by Belial
Thu May 22, 2014 2:46 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: [Trigger warning: classic literature]
Replies: 314
Views: 36567

Re: [Trigger warning: classic literature]

But the point it, EITHER by attaching a trigger warning to the particular work, OR by NOT putting a trigger warning on the work, the authorities are taking an explicit political and moral stance on the content of the work specifically. Nope! You are literally only informing the reader that this the...
by Belial
Tue May 20, 2014 6:49 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: [Trigger warning: classic literature]
Replies: 314
Views: 36567

Re: [Trigger warning: classic literature]

And if you think narratives that blindside you with a rape scene you weren't expecting and which isn't central to the themes of the narrative (and therefore likely to be included in the syllabus) are rare or unheard of, you haven't been watching for them. Which is understandable, as you aren't trigg...
by Belial
Tue May 20, 2014 6:02 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: [Trigger warning: classic literature]
Replies: 314
Views: 36567

Re: [Trigger warning: classic literature]

I'd just like to take this opportunity to point out that I wasn't the one who brought the western literary canon into this. I literally just said that it is valid to criticize the inclusion of any given book in a curriculum based on criteria like being a bigoted piece of trash with no redeeming qual...
by Belial
Tue May 20, 2014 5:23 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: [Trigger warning: classic literature]
Replies: 314
Views: 36567

Re: [Trigger warning: classic literature]

tl;dr the canon is not sacred That's if the purpose of the canon is simply to be "these are really good books whose message we should take to heart." I don't agree that's it, though; it seems to me that it's much more effective in understanding why our culture is the way it is -- and that...
by Belial
Tue May 20, 2014 5:09 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: [Trigger warning: classic literature]
Replies: 314
Views: 36567

Re: [Trigger warning: classic literature]

We have a literary canon - it is updated, but infrequently. That makes sense, absent the assumption that the modern day is inherently more enlightened, and the modern way of thinking is unequivocally superior. If a work has been considered important for millennia and *you* think it's not, odds are ...
by Belial
Tue May 20, 2014 4:47 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: [Trigger warning: classic literature]
Replies: 314
Views: 36567

Re: [Trigger warning: classic literature]

Controversial material is dropped from the curriculum. University faculties become even more ideologically lopsided than they already are. I posted an example scenario earlier in the thread. It's a short hop, once you accept that students should be forewarned to avoid course material, that those wh...
by Belial
Tue May 20, 2014 4:29 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: [Trigger warning: classic literature]
Replies: 314
Views: 36567

Re: [Trigger warning: classic literature]

Actually, in response to Kryten and Ormurrin, I'm going to go ahead and walk back to where omgryebread started from, and ask: how does a content note that you may feel is frivolous actually hurt anything? If your nightmare scenario comes to pass and the establishment of academia becomes too label-ha...
by Belial
Tue May 20, 2014 4:18 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: [Trigger warning: classic literature]
Replies: 314
Views: 36567

Re: [Trigger warning: classic literature]

even completely absent trigger warnings, they can still speak with their lecturers at the beginning of the term and request special dispensation. No one is arguing against accommodating these people. In other words "explicitly discuss your personal trauma with a stranger in the hopes that they...
by Belial
Tue May 20, 2014 4:06 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: [Trigger warning: classic literature]
Replies: 314
Views: 36567

Re: [Trigger warning: classic literature]

Once again, people are *already* conflating trauma triggers with "I don't want to read about patriarchy" In the very communities driving this change. Why should I believe that these activists, many of whom literally want me dead, are acting in good faith here? Because it doesn't matter. T...
by Belial
Tue May 20, 2014 4:00 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: [Trigger warning: classic literature]
Replies: 314
Views: 36567

Re: [Trigger warning: classic literature]

Oh, shit, the p-word got busted out. Here's the part where we ignore logic, science, data, and simply do whatever we think is best for the minorities. Of course, plenty of those decision makers are not themselves minorities or the like, but it's cool to paternalistically assume that they are fragil...
by Belial
Tue May 20, 2014 3:41 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: [Trigger warning: classic literature]
Replies: 314
Views: 36567

Re: [Trigger warning: classic literature]

No, I'm not. I covered actual trauma triggers earlier in the post you're selectively quoting. I'm discussing the weaker "Content Note" which doesn't cause a trauma trigger but refers to content that upsets people. The CN:patriarchy, CN:colonialism type notices. Care to engage with the poi...
by Belial
Tue May 20, 2014 3:22 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: [Trigger warning: classic literature]
Replies: 314
Views: 36567

Re: [Trigger warning: classic literature]

The vast sums of money/debt is another issue, and one that trigger warnings will do little, if anything to alleviate. It's relevant because the students in question have invested quite a lot of resources to get this education. Making the learning environment hostile to them is, therefore, much more...
by Belial
Tue May 20, 2014 11:04 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: [Trigger warning: classic literature]
Replies: 314
Views: 36567

Re: [Trigger warning: classic literature]

but some of its examples seemed to be proposals for institution-wide policies. Rules, not courtesy. Institution-wide policies are rules, yes, but they're not laws, and the wisdom and basic decency of considering the comfort and well-being of the students who are paying vast sums of money (or, more ...
by Belial
Tue May 20, 2014 4:17 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: [Trigger warning: classic literature]
Replies: 314
Views: 36567

Re: [Trigger warning: classic literature]

Come now, what constitutes courteous and considerate is something mutable. It isn't the same in all places and times, and there is no particular reason to consider this fairly recent, unsupported, and often unknown practice to be particularly sacred. Why must one conflate the use of trigger warning...
by Belial
Tue May 20, 2014 12:33 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: [Trigger warning: classic literature]
Replies: 314
Views: 36567

Re: [Trigger warning: classic literature]

More broadly, do you require data in order to be courteous and considerate to other people, especially upon request?
by Belial
Mon May 19, 2014 6:34 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: [Trigger warning: classic literature]
Replies: 314
Views: 36567

Re: [Trigger warning: classic literature]

Oops. Sorry. The whole Trigger Warning thing is new to me. I don't think I ever saw one, or if I did I didn't register it, prior to a month or two ago, when I saw it in a title on this forum. I am sure it has been around a lot longer, I just didn't happen to notice it as a thing. My knee-jerk react...
by Belial
Mon May 19, 2014 6:16 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: [Trigger warning: classic literature]
Replies: 314
Views: 36567

Re: [Trigger warning: classic literature]

You need to put a trigger warning on the thread title. Trigger warnings make me uncomfortable. Look. Do not do this thing you are doing. More broadly, to the thread at large: if you are formulating a reply intended to make light of the idea of trigger warnings, ridicule people who feel they need tr...
by Belial
Mon May 19, 2014 3:44 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1370: "President"
Replies: 68
Views: 16758

Re: 1370: "President"

With a response from the little girl like that, I'd have gone a different way. The prompt was clearly ridiculous, but the response was acidly smug, self-righteous, instantly unlikeable, and does nothing to say why Internet-raised candidates would actually be good at the job. If her go-to mode of de...
by Belial
Sat May 17, 2014 3:12 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Ex-wife takes down husband's suicide note from the internet
Replies: 57
Views: 14862

Re: Ex-wife takes down husband's suicide note from the inter

I'm quoted a minor one before.. from your own source in fact: "... that in some cases perceptions of gender bias may discourage fathers from seeking custody and stereotypes about fathers may sometimes affect case outcomes." A perception of bias in the system is not actually bias in the sy...
by Belial
Sat May 17, 2014 7:52 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Ex-wife takes down husband's suicide note from the internet
Replies: 57
Views: 14862

Re: Ex-wife takes down husband's suicide note from the inter

Even if you disregard the data due to being old, old data is better than no data, and I've yet to see any data that actually supports the idea that the family court system is biased against men. Just a lot of people saying it like it's obviously true and everyone knows it already. I don't think I re...
by Belial
Fri May 16, 2014 9:24 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Ex-wife takes down husband's suicide note from the internet
Replies: 57
Views: 14862

Re: Ex-wife takes down husband's suicide note from the inter

What about other issues regarding divorces like visiting rights, child's support, marital home, etc? Why just focus on child's custody? Because it's the one most often claimed. When someone starts claiming that the family court system is biased against men, it's the most common example used and it'...
by Belial
Fri May 16, 2014 6:46 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Ex-wife takes down husband's suicide note from the internet
Replies: 57
Views: 14862

Re: Ex-wife takes down husband's suicide note from the inter

I think everyone here is in agreement, however, that often Males are often treated unfairly in court in regards to divorces and rape cases. You're just wrong. In the case of rape, you're wrong in a way that is tricky to prove, but in the case of divorce cases you're provably, testably wrong. Or rat...

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