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Postby apricity » Fri May 25, 2007 6:22 pm UTC

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rachel wrote:Man, that just reminded me of Who Stole the Cookies from the Cookie Jar something awful.

That couldn't be.


Then WHO? :shock:
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Postby Ren » Fri May 25, 2007 7:15 pm UTC

BELIAL stole the cookie from the cookie jar!
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Postby Gordon » Fri May 25, 2007 7:16 pm UTC

He's in your jarz, stealing your cookiez
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RealGrouchy wrote:I still remember the time when Gordon left. I still wake up in the middle of the night crying and screaming his name.
I do that too, but for an entirely different reason.
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Postby Mighty Jalapeno » Fri May 25, 2007 7:16 pm UTC

Ren wrote:BELIAL stole the cookie from the cookie jar!

Debbie stole the cookies from the cookie jar!

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Postby MFHodge » Fri May 25, 2007 7:19 pm UTC

Ren wrote:BELIAL stole the cookie from the cookie jar!

Were they meat cookies, 'cause I'm pretty sure he is a carnivore.


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Postby Ren » Fri May 25, 2007 7:34 pm UTC

Psh. Everyone likes cookies.
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Postby warriorness » Fri May 25, 2007 7:46 pm UTC

Ren wrote:
Gordon wrote:'Twas me


Fix'd.

"Me" is object. "I" is subject.

GRAMMAR IS AWESOME


Hate to correct you, but that's correct only by the principle of common usage. The proper way to say it is in fact "It was I" (I'm assuming that's how it was originally) because "to be" is a linking verb - the (pro)nouns on either side of it are both subjects. That's why you hear people say "This is he/she" when, say, answering the phone, rather than "This is him/her".
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Postby Gordon » Fri May 25, 2007 7:49 pm UTC

More to the point, don't edit my posts.
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RealGrouchy wrote:I still remember the time when Gordon left. I still wake up in the middle of the night crying and screaming his name.
I do that too, but for an entirely different reason.
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Gordon wrote:How long have I been asleep?!
Our daughter is in high school now.

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Postby warriorness » Fri May 25, 2007 7:54 pm UTC

Yeah, that's what I meant, of course!
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Postby Ren » Fri May 25, 2007 8:20 pm UTC

I've heard that, warriorness, but it's not true. If you say, "It is a ball," 'ball' is the object, which is the same sort of thing as 'It is me.'

But I digress. And I'll stop with the grammaring.

I'll never edit your posts again, Gordon. Ever. Ever. Promise.
Unless I become a ninja, in which case...
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Postby warriorness » Fri May 25, 2007 8:33 pm UTC

Ren wrote:I've heard that, warriorness, but it's not true. If you say, "It is a ball," 'ball' is the object, which is the same sort of thing as 'It is me.'


I maintain the opposite: "ball", as well as "it", is a subject. Find me a source that shows otherwise.

And even so, how can you justify "This is he/she"? Even if the other form ("This is him/her") were proper, that serves as a counterexample, showing that no correcting was necessary in this case.
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Postby Thunderbird4! » Fri May 25, 2007 9:40 pm UTC

I shall now attempt to impart my limited knowledge of grammar.

The ball is red. "Ball" is the subject here.
It is red. "It" is the subject here, red is an adjective.
It is a ball. "It" is still the subject and I would argue that a ball is the same form of speech as red since both of them describe "It" whatever it is.

I am probobly incorrect here as I'm more of a logic and deductions guy than a linguistics guy. Hence my 'deduction' that both red and ball describe it and therefore are the same part of speech.
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Postby Ren » Fri May 25, 2007 10:08 pm UTC

EDIT: It's all gone. All of it. I'm tired and feeling like a stick in the mud.
(except this bit)
Subject pronouns are really objects in disguise.
I'm done. DONE.
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Postby SpitValve » Fri May 25, 2007 10:17 pm UTC

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Usage Note: Traditional grammar requires the nominative form of the pronoun in the predicate of the verb be: It is I (not me); That must be they (not them), and so forth. Nearly every speaker of Modern English finds this rule difficult to follow. Even if everyone could follow it, in informal contexts the nominative pronoun often sounds pedantic and even ridiculous, especially when the verb is contracted, as in It's we. But constructions like It is me have been condemned in the classroom and in writing handbooks for so long that there seems little likelihood that they will ever be entirely acceptable in formal writing. · The traditional rule creates additional problems when the pronoun following be also functions as the object of a verb or preposition in a relative clause, as in It is not them/they that we have in mind when we talk about "crime in the streets" nowadays, where the plural pronoun serves as both the predicate of is and the object of have. In this example, 57 percent of the Usage Panel prefers the nominative form they, 33 percent prefer the objective them, and 10 percent accept both versions. Writers can usually revise their sentences to avoid this problem: They are not the ones we have in mind, We have someone else in mind, and so on. See Usage Notes at I1, we.

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Postby warriorness » Fri May 25, 2007 10:35 pm UTC

EDIT: Also gone. If you (i.e. Ren) want to see this reply, PM me.

Subject pronouns are really objects in disguise.


No, never. You've got subject pronouns, which are used as subjects, and then you've got object pronouns, which are used as objects. "They" is a subject pronoun, but in the sentence "They ate food", if "they" isn't the subject, then what is? "Them" is the corresponding object pronoun, and you would use that if you wanted an object.
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Postby Ren » Fri May 25, 2007 10:43 pm UTC

*bows out*

You're right, I'm not, and I think I should hit the crack less often.

I'm also glad I got rid of that "Deputy Grammar Hammer" thing in my sig. It could only have made this situation more embarassing.

*Sings the "I'm sorry" song*
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Postby RealGrouchy » Sat May 26, 2007 1:39 am UTC

A is B is an equational sentence, and is commutative.

It essentially represents A = B. (and therefore B = A)


Unfortunately, I must agree with Warriornees on this one.


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Postby Berge » Sat May 26, 2007 1:52 am UTC

I can't believe I never noticed the hyphen in warriorness' title till now. Wow.
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Postby no-genius » Sun May 27, 2007 12:07 pm UTC

I think "partially shaved" would be a great title... but not for me? I want mine changed in October (but i don't wanna choose it)
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Postby electoralfraud » Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:25 am UTC

errrr. this is the longest time and posts i've been on a forum. also i completed a years work in three days.
can i have 'Lil' Grappler' or 'PuppetMaster', or 'Grapplepants' (any spelt worng or correctly).
very much obliged. they are references to the irc channel; where i seem to have been able to have make a nuisance of myself.

I also taught bucket to say funny things...
I can make 'it' say more funny things, and you can'ye delete them, it's like johnny five, alive, and such..

so what do you say? huh?
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Postby Bondolon » Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:32 am UTC

I grew horns please, assuming these are still allowed.

To go just a bit off-topic, does anyone know what kind of doctor I would see about having grown horns?

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Postby hermaj » Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:33 am UTC

A... a vet?

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Postby RealGrouchy » Tue Jun 05, 2007 2:07 am UTC

Bondolon wrote:I grew horns please, assuming these are still allowed.

To go just a bit off-topic, does anyone know what kind of doctor I would see about having grown horns?

In the interests of elitism, I'm going to suggest that you wait until you've been around for a few days/weeks/months.

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Postby knight427 » Tue Jun 05, 2007 2:23 am UTC

RealGrouchy wrote:
Bondolon wrote:I grew horns please, assuming these are still allowed.

To go just a bit off-topic, does anyone know what kind of doctor I would see about having grown horns?

In the interests of elitism, I'm going to suggest that you wait until you've been around for a few days/weeks/months.

- RG>


Yeah, you need to wait at least a few days and a few more posts when you will be an old timer like I was. Kids these days are so impoti^Hent.

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Postby Mighty Jalapeno » Wed Jun 06, 2007 7:39 pm UTC

After all that, I didn't even get title'd with "Furniture". What's a guy gotta do?!

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Postby Belial » Wed Jun 06, 2007 8:01 pm UTC

After all that, I didn't even get title'd with "Furniture". What's a guy gotta do?!


Remind me that "Oh yeah, I can title people", apparently.
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Postby GhostWolfe » Wed Jun 06, 2007 10:24 pm UTC

Mighty Jalapeno wrote:After all that, I didn't even get title'd with "Furniture". What's a guy gotta do?!


Grats on the title :)
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Postby Mighty Jalapeno » Wed Jun 06, 2007 10:37 pm UTC

*Does a little dance...*

*Makes a little love...*

*Gets down tonight.*

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Postby Thunderbird4! » Wed Jun 06, 2007 10:48 pm UTC

Where does a [hint]vagabond[/hint] get his hands on some of this dancing furniture?
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Postby electoralfraud » Wed Jun 06, 2007 10:57 pm UTC

I was drunk and depressed; and when i get drunk and depressed I get arrogant and bolshy. I wouldn't have asked for one otherwise; so thanks for not hitting me with a brutal comic one.
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Postby Thunderbird4! » Wed Jun 06, 2007 11:03 pm UTC

I think he needs the title "Drunk and depressed"
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Postby apricity » Wed Jun 06, 2007 11:14 pm UTC

Thunderbird4! wrote:I think he needs the title "Drunk and depressed"


I like "arrogant and bolshy" better. Mostly because I don't know what bolshy means, but it sounds fun.
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Postby RealGrouchy » Wed Jun 06, 2007 11:43 pm UTC

I can't decide either way. One has "bolshy", which is obscure, but the other is alliterative...

I'm glad I don't have to make those tough decisions!

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Mighty Jalapeno wrote:At least he has the decency to REMOVE THE GAP BETWEEN HIS QUOTES....
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Postby bbctol » Wed Jun 06, 2007 11:47 pm UTC

RealGrouchy wrote:I can't decide either way. One has "bolshy", which is obscure, but the other is alliterative...

I'm glad I don't have to make those tough decisions!

- RG>

I submit "Drunk, Depressed, Arrogant, and Bolshy".

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Postby apricity » Wed Jun 06, 2007 11:57 pm UTC

bbctol wrote:
RealGrouchy wrote:I can't decide either way. One has "bolshy", which is obscure, but the other is alliterative...

I'm glad I don't have to make those tough decisions!

- RG>

I submit "Drunk, Depressed, Arrogant, and Bolshy".


DDAB. Or alternately, BADD. Or BADDass.

Too far?
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Postby MFHodge » Thu Jun 07, 2007 12:09 am UTC

lanicita wrote:
bbctol wrote:
RealGrouchy wrote:I can't decide either way. One has "bolshy", which is obscure, but the other is alliterative...

I'm glad I don't have to make those tough decisions!

- RG>

I submit "Drunk, Depressed, Arrogant, and Bolshy".


DDAB. Or alternately, BADD. Or BADDass.

Too far?


Yeah, a little.

Am I to assume that Bolshy is short for Bolshevik?

Would Drunk/Depressed/Arrogant/Bolshy fit on one line?

If not, Arrogant and Bolshy is the way to go. Or Arrogant/Bolshy, cause I like slashes.
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Postby bbctol » Thu Jun 07, 2007 1:07 am UTC

VTHodge wrote:I like slashes.

I understand, and I'm not one to judge in any way. Don't worry, we're an open community.

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Postby Belial » Thu Jun 07, 2007 2:46 am UTC

I can't decide either way. One has "bolshy", which is obscure, but the other is alliterative...


Thank you.
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They/them

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Postby RealGrouchy » Thu Jun 07, 2007 3:26 am UTC

"BRUTALLY Bolshy"! Nice!

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Postby electoralfraud » Sat Jun 09, 2007 12:47 am UTC

[notbolshy]Thankyou Belial; I was pretty much expecting something rather... well, I can't much say brutal now, but more, ah, er, not so nice and shiney as this if anything at all.[/notbolshy]

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