What do you use your programming skills for?

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What do you use your programming skills for?

Postby Umlaut » Fri Oct 26, 2007 3:38 pm UTC

As a casual programmer, I don't program as much as I'd like to because I just can't think of any software to write sometimes. I got into it because I enjoy the process of writing code and debugging more that for the utility of my applications (though that is important too, of course). What is your motivation?
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Re: What do you use your programming skills for?

Postby Robin S » Fri Oct 26, 2007 4:16 pm UTC

I find it enjoyable to see the result of something I have made. I enjoy knowing that, in principle, I could write a program to do more or less whatever I wanted.
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Re: What do you use your programming skills for?

Postby Indon » Fri Oct 26, 2007 5:10 pm UTC

Mostly, I use it for work. But I also make simple programs when I want to grasp a new concept, which I often do in my spare time.

Also, some friends are trying to rope me into UI/Mod development for an MMO I play.
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Re: What do you use your programming skills for?

Postby Pesto » Fri Oct 26, 2007 6:17 pm UTC

Hard question to answer. If I get the job I'm shooting for right now, it will be professional.

I have a project going in my "spare" time, but it is related to other professional pursuits, so I don't know how that would be classified.

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Re: What do you use your programming skills for?

Postby headprogrammingczar » Fri Oct 26, 2007 7:04 pm UTC

I mostly code for fun. My two latest projects have been a fun visualization program using an algorithm I have coined "alpha-blur", and an (unfinished) heuristic sudoku solving/making program. It solves the puzzle one square at a time, then tells you the difficulty of the puzzle when you finish.
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Re: What do you use your programming skills for?

Postby Berengal » Fri Oct 26, 2007 8:02 pm UTC

Mostly casual. If my cs class assignements are considered casual as well, which they should, then only casual.

I program mostly to learn to program, very few utility programs. That is, almost all my software's main purposes are to teach me new concepts, with their utility being second in line, and often non-existant to me (e.g. a program keeping track of how many gold medals an athlete has). Sometimes I create short scripts to solve real-world problems, but they're single-purpose and almost always written directly in the interpreter. For example, today my non-programming math friends and I had to use the Newton method on a function. They had their trusty paper and calculator, I had my laptop. They thought they would be faster, but they thought doing it on the computer meant using a text editor and calculator. I used less than a minute.
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Re: What do you use your programming skills for?

Postby mrkite » Fri Oct 26, 2007 8:45 pm UTC

Professional. Senior Online Programmer. Going on 10 years now.


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Re: What do you use your programming skills for?

Postby photosinensis » Fri Oct 26, 2007 9:04 pm UTC

I was hoping that "good" and "awesome" would be the options. Alas, those hopes were dashed on the rocky shores of reality.

Personally, most of my code is done for shits and giggles, though a fair amount is still done for class. I'm trying to get into a coding position at work, but right now, I'm pigeon-holed in a corner working on support stuff with the clients.
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Re: What do you use your programming skills for?

Postby crazyjimbo » Fri Oct 26, 2007 10:33 pm UTC

I code a lot for fun, and spent the past 6 or so years just hacking around and learning. I've never once produced a full working program but haven't felt in a position to do so until now, both due to no real goals and because of the 'hack around, figure it out and move on' mindset. Now, due to a mixture of getting a part time job coding for a web hosting company, and finally having a project in mind that I want to complete not just for the challenge in coding but for the end product, I feel like I'm now coding at a much more professional level.

Really though, I'm glad that there isn't much of a distinction between my motivation and enthusiasm for my hobby coding and my work coding. Fortunately work still provides interesting challenges.

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Re: What do you use your programming skills for?

Postby umbrae » Sat Oct 27, 2007 1:13 am UTC

mrkite wrote:Professional. Senior Online Programmer. Going on 10 years now.


I've never heard this job title before. What is it you do?

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Re: What do you use your programming skills for?

Postby aldimond » Sat Oct 27, 2007 1:40 am UTC

I code for the lulz.

My work coding definitely falls in this category.
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Re: What do you use your programming skills for?

Postby mrkite » Sat Oct 27, 2007 2:15 am UTC

umbrae wrote:
mrkite wrote:Professional. Senior Online Programmer. Going on 10 years now.


I've never heard this job title before. What is it you do?


At its core it's basically web development, but it goes beyond that and into systems programming where needed.

For example, the CMS I built is designed for large newspaper websites. There's your basic frontend, but also a custom Apache module that provides a SOAP interface to the backend. There's a custom server that talks to QPS (Quark Publishing System) and automatically converts stories from Quark's proprietary binary format into NITF, that server also does photo conversion (from EPS to jpeg, with color correction).

It's a crazy system, and impossible to use just one language for every piece. The conversion software is C++, so is the Apache module. The front end is PHP, and there's glue written in Ruby and Perl (I'm trying to phase out the perl code). Plus it uses XSLT to translate NITF to whatever we need on the fly.

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Re: What do you use your programming skills for?

Postby mrcheesypants » Sat Oct 27, 2007 9:26 pm UTC

Well, what little programming skills I have, for fun. I've never written a full program on the account I can't figure out anything to program. When ever I get an idea, I forget it by the next day. I need to start writing my ideas down :cry:
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Re: What do you use your programming skills for?

Postby RRRR » Sun Oct 28, 2007 8:07 am UTC

I program for a living. "Programmer - Entreprise Systems" for both Production Support team and Projects team. Speaking of which, my boss warned me I'm going to be hammered with work on monday morning :(

But outside of work/soccer I also program for a hobby. I've wrote code for game mods, friends and just for kicks.
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Re: What do you use your programming skills for?

Postby Benny the Bear » Mon Oct 29, 2007 12:33 am UTC

A casual use. I continue to strain myself for ideas for programs that will actually help me in day-to-day-life.

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Re: What do you use your programming skills for?

Postby pieaholicx » Mon Oct 29, 2007 2:02 pm UTC

I pretty much only code for work, due to not really having a need to code anything at home. Though if I ever came up with something I needed, I'd probably look into coding it myself.

As for the reason I got into coding, mostly to feed my slight god complex.
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Re: What do you use your programming skills for?

Postby blob » Tue Oct 30, 2007 12:26 pm UTC

I was hoping the options would be 'for good' and 'for awesome'.

I used to code for fun, but lately I've been coding scripts for usefulness, although the fun is there as a side product.
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Re: What do you use your programming skills for?

Postby __Kit » Wed Oct 31, 2007 5:14 am UTC

Robin S wrote:I find it enjoyable to see the result of something I have made.

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Re: What do you use your programming skills for?

Postby der_bAUer » Thu Nov 01, 2007 12:14 pm UTC

Nowadays, I code for personal use, and I hope that after finishing school and majoring in CS, I will be coding for a living, too.

Just today, I finished a firefox extension to switch our satellite internet on/off remotely (we pay per minute for the ISDN uplink). At the moment, I have three running projects: A sound component for a game that a friend of mine is developing in a small group at his school, my personal information management system (a webapp, including task management, wiki, etc), and exercises for a CS contest.

And I have more ideas in my wiki than I have the time to code for...

Of course, from time to time, there's a quick-and-dirty hacked together throwaway script; like yesterday, when I couldn't find a NPC in Morrowind which I had interacted with before. I googled, found a savegame file format description, and edited the coordinates of the NPC in question (turned out that he had fallen through the ground and had a negative Z coordinate).

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Re: What do you use your programming skills for?

Postby Notch » Thu Nov 01, 2007 3:36 pm UTC

I do a lot of programming. A lot. Heaps, in fact. I write games for a living, I write games for fun. Sometimes I find something interesting, and write a neural net capable of doing math, or a brainfuck-to-java compiler, or a turing complete cellular automata.

There probably is some kind of deep psychological reason behind it, like how I can only really feel content when I let my too analytical mind fully focus on solving creative problems, but I prefer to think it's just because I'm a nerd.

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Re: What do you use your programming skills for?

Postby evilbeanfiend » Thu Nov 01, 2007 5:26 pm UTC

mainly to impress chicks. but yeah i program for fun and profit. mostly on the profit side at the moment.
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Re: What do you use your programming skills for?

Postby Berengal » Thu Nov 01, 2007 6:43 pm UTC

evilbeanfiend wrote:Mainly to impress chicks.

That too.
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Re: What do you use your programming skills for?

Postby fortyseventeen » Thu Nov 01, 2007 8:01 pm UTC

Hey, where's the 'to save humanity' option?
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previously for fun, but as i am now on a 6 month internship, I am writing code for a living. :D

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Re: What do you use your programming skills for?

Postby duaneb » Sat Nov 03, 2007 4:38 pm UTC

I code for fun; I love being able to solve complex problems so elegantly. Aside from that, maybe it'll get me into college.

Currently I'm writing a forth compiler/interpreter.

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Re: What do you use your programming skills for?

Postby maafy6 » Sun Nov 04, 2007 1:27 am UTC

Meal ticket. A math major by education, and as I got closer to graduating and I realized I wasn't motivated enough to complete applications for grad school, I took that as a sign and figured I should try my hand at a job. I figured I could survive as a software engineer, and so I am, though to date I have, aside from doing some coding, done just as much work in the realm of systems/hardware engineering and for the next while I'll get to run around as a tester.

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Re: What do you use your programming skills for?

Postby the human perl script » Mon Nov 05, 2007 1:37 am UTC

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Re: What do you use your programming skills for?

Postby b.i.o » Mon Nov 05, 2007 6:20 am UTC

At the moment for school and fun. Sometime in the future hopefully for work and fun.

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Re: What do you use your programming skills for?

Postby Pobega » Thu Nov 08, 2007 1:16 am UTC

I program mainly casually, but I have been known to do SOME professional programming.

Most of my work though, is scripting configurations for *nix programs, writing add-ons/plugins to programs, and sometimes creating very basic programs for me to do things (I soon plan to start work on a CLI calendar program with all of the functions I need).

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Re: What do you use your programming skills for?

Postby quintopia » Thu Nov 08, 2007 6:03 pm UTC

@OP: If you ever need a project because you can't think of anything, I have quite a few ideas I don't have time to implement, some of which may be profitable. . . .

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Re: What do you use your programming skills for?

Postby thoughtfully » Fri Nov 16, 2007 3:00 am UTC

evilbeanfiend wrote:mainly to impress chicks. but yeah i program for fun and profit. mostly on the profit side at the moment.


Please instruct me in this. I have long felt that my coding skills were not achieving full potential, and now it is clear to me why.

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Re: What do you use your programming skills for?

Postby WraithXt1 » Tue Nov 20, 2007 1:16 pm UTC

I uh....I havent actually coded since I graduated high school. I just havent had a reason. Though I wish someone would give me one, I miss it!

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Re: What do you use your programming skills for?

Postby tetsujin » Tue Nov 20, 2007 9:59 pm UTC

This being xkcd and all I was sort of expecting poll options like "good" and "evil". :D
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Re: What do you use your programming skills for?

Postby jskyhawk » Fri Nov 23, 2007 12:22 am UTC

I code for manufacturing machinery, robotics in a sense. Its really more than just coding for me, its controls engineering. I find it funny that no matter what kind of language you use to program it really all works the same with a little bit different mnemonics and look strangely similar in pseudocode... and > that is the fact that people and nature all have algorithms and your program is what you do when you wake up every morning. put that in your flowchart and iterate it.
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Re: What do you use your programming skills for?

Postby '; DROP DATABASE;-- » Sat Nov 24, 2007 5:49 am UTC

I've done "professional" work a couple times (well, "for pay" might be a better term than "professional" ;)), but most of the time, it's just for something to do, to impress chicks ("hey look I put your name in Mario Kart"), etc.

That reminds me, I need to finish coding that alarm clock. >_>
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Re: What do you use your programming skills for?

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Re: What do you use your programming skills for?

Postby moofius » Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:26 pm UTC

Where is the ninja/superman option? :)
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Re: What do you use your programming skills for?

Postby Hench » Tue Dec 04, 2007 3:45 pm UTC

A bit of both. More casual than "professional" as I'm still an undergrad and haven't had many opportunities to write code professionally. But it has happened.
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Re: What do you use your programming skills for?

Postby Webzter » Tue Dec 04, 2007 7:54 pm UTC

I code for a living - I'm 30 now and my first contract coding job started when I was 15

I code for profit - In addition to the 40-50 my job gets, I put in a few more hours doing freelance work

I code for fun - To learn new concepts, try out ideas... not even in the realm of interesting comp sci work, sometimes just to better internalize a given concept.

Mostly, I code because it beats the hell out of crack.


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