## Pure Nomic

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### Re: Pure Nomic

On the acquisition of gems v. 2
I propose once a day(midnight to midnight) in UTC time zone players can mine for the gems available in the game at the time. This is done by saying I mine x gems. X is to be replaced with the amount of gems rolled by a random dice roll on http://invisiblecastle.com And the gems mined shall be determined the same way.

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### Re: Pure Nomic

Rosewinsall wrote:On the acquisition of gems v. 2
I propose once a day(midnight to midnight) in UTC time zone players can mine for the gems available in the game at the time. This is done by saying I mine x gems. X is to be replaced with the amount of gems rolled by a random dice roll on http://invisiblecastle.com And the gems mined shall be determined the same way.

OK, I've put this on the wiki (assuming you wanted it to replace your previous proposal, obviously). We'd need to all agree on a) how many gems you can get (on the first roll) and b) which number means which type of gems (on the second roll).
dudiobugtron wrote:The jellybean did taste like cockroach, it's just that you'd smoked a marijuana cigarette first so didn't really mind.

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okay flicky works for me.

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how bout the maximum number a person can mine be 10?

Rosewinsall

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Rosewinsall wrote:how bout the maximum number a person can mine be 10?

Are we now discussing the 'loot table'?

The way I see it, a player can just mine once a day (24 hrs), the results of which are up to the roll. This includes both quality and quantity of gems obtained.
So instead of saying "I mine X gems", a player would state something like "I do some MINING." Then the next player (or the player themselves) rolls and posts the result in resp. the next or same post.
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### Re: Pure Nomic

Pjotr wrote:
Rosewinsall wrote:how bout the maximum number a person can mine be 10?

Are we now discussing the 'loot table'?

The way I see it, a player can just mine once a day (24 hrs), the results of which are up to the roll. This includes both quality and quantity of gems obtained.
So instead of saying "I mine X gems", a player would state something like "I do some MINING." Then the next player (or the player themselves) rolls and posts the result in resp. the next or same post.

Yeah, I assumed that was the case. What we need to figure out is the maximum number of gems that can be mined at once - i.e., the number the dice should be able to go up to.
dudiobugtron wrote:The jellybean did taste like cockroach, it's just that you'd smoked a marijuana cigarette first so didn't really mind.

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### Re: Pure Nomic

flicky1991 wrote:
Pjotr wrote:
Rosewinsall wrote:how bout the maximum number a person can mine be 10?

Are we now discussing the 'loot table'?

The way I see it, a player can just mine once a day (24 hrs), the results of which are up to the roll. This includes both quality and quantity of gems obtained.
So instead of saying "I mine X gems", a player would state something like "I do some MINING." Then the next player (or the player themselves) rolls and posts the result in resp. the next or same post.

Yeah, I assumed that was the case. What we need to figure out is the maximum number of gems that can be mined at once - i.e., the number the dice should be able to go up to.

either 10 or 12 I think it should be.

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### Re: Pure Nomic

Rosewinsall wrote:
flicky1991 wrote:
Pjotr wrote:
Rosewinsall wrote:how bout the maximum number a person can mine be 10?

Are we now discussing the 'loot table'?

The way I see it, a player can just mine once a day (24 hrs), the results of which are up to the roll. This includes both quality and quantity of gems obtained.
So instead of saying "I mine X gems", a player would state something like "I do some MINING." Then the next player (or the player themselves) rolls and posts the result in resp. the next or same post.

Yeah, I assumed that was the case. What we need to figure out is the maximum number of gems that can be mined at once - i.e., the number the dice should be able to go up to.

either 10 or 12 I think it should be.

Well, it's your proposition - you can change it to say the amount you want. (Plus which number means which gem on the second dice roll.)
dudiobugtron wrote:The jellybean did taste like cockroach, it's just that you'd smoked a marijuana cigarette first so didn't really mind.

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### Re: Pure Nomic

Acquisition of gems V. 3

I propose once a day(midnight to midnight) in UTC time zone, players can mine for the gems available in the game at the time. This is done by saying I'm going mining for gems. mining is done by doing two separate rolls here. One roll is to determine the amount of gems from 1 to 12
and the second roll is to determine what type of gems.

1. Sapphires
2. Rubies
3. Diamonds
4. Topaz
5. Beryls
6. Emerald
7. Citrine
8. Opal
9.Olivine
10. Peridot
11. Quartz
12. Amethyst

Edit:Queen of Clubs
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Rosewinsall

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OK, I'll replace your old one on the wiki... if you put a playing card there...
dudiobugtron wrote:The jellybean did taste like cockroach, it's just that you'd smoked a marijuana cigarette first so didn't really mind.

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### Re: Pure Nomic

I vote for proposition 12.

dudiobugtron wrote:The jellybean did taste like cockroach, it's just that you'd smoked a marijuana cigarette first so didn't really mind.

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I vote for prop 11. and with that we have a new rule flicky.

Jack of Hearts.

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Rosewinsall wrote:I vote for prop 11. and with that we have a new rule flicky.

Jack of Hearts.

Updated. As far as worth goes, Pjotr, thethunderhawk, and I are now all tying for first place.
dudiobugtron wrote:The jellybean did taste like cockroach, it's just that you'd smoked a marijuana cigarette first so didn't really mind.

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But worth has no meaning yet flicky.

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Rosewinsall wrote:But worth has no meaning yet flicky.

Yeah, but I wanted to at least say something other than just "updated" XD
dudiobugtron wrote:The jellybean did taste like cockroach, it's just that you'd smoked a marijuana cigarette first so didn't really mind.

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also is thunderhawk still in this?

Rosewinsall

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According to his forum profile:

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So... he only actually used the xkcd forum for four days. That's surprising.
dudiobugtron wrote:The jellybean did taste like cockroach, it's just that you'd smoked a marijuana cigarette first so didn't really mind.

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### Re: Pure Nomic

I vote in favor of prop 13.

Rosewinsall

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### Re: Pure Nomic

I cash in all of my starting gems.

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Rosewinsall wrote:I cash in all of my starting gems.

Done.

ANOTHER CHANGE TO RULE 20
I propose that the following gem values are added to Rule 20: Diamonds can be cashed in for 25 points, Topaz can be cashed in for 5 points, Emeralds can be cashed in for 15 points, Citrine can be cashed in for 12 points, Opals can be cashed in for 16 points, Olivine can be cashed in for 4 points, Peridot can be cashed in for 10 points, Quartz can be cashed in for 9 points, and Amethysts can be cashed in for 18 points.

This is really just in case prop 12 is passed.

8 of hearts
dudiobugtron wrote:The jellybean did taste like cockroach, it's just that you'd smoked a marijuana cigarette first so didn't really mind.

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### Re: Pure Nomic

okay

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Rosewinsall wrote:okay

Um... okay? If that's meant to be a vote for it, it's not very clear. And it's missing the card... XD
dudiobugtron wrote:The jellybean did taste like cockroach, it's just that you'd smoked a marijuana cigarette first so didn't really mind.

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### Re: Pure Nomic

I'm for proposal 6.

I propose that people may have several votes, and that the number of votes needed to pass or repeal a motion be raised to 5 (and later even higher when players get more votes) If this motion is accepted, people get votes for the following:
* Playing Pure Nomic - 1 vote
* Membership in the Ethics council - 1 vote
* Seniority (having posted on a page with lower number than half the current page) - 1 vote

Ace of hearts.
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orangedragonfire wrote:I'm for proposal 6.

I propose that people may have several votes, and that the number of votes needed to pass or repeal a motion be raised to 5 (and later even higher when players get more votes) If this motion is accepted, people get votes for the following:
* Playing Pure Nomic - 1 vote
* Membership in the Ethics council - 1 vote
* Seniority (having posted on a page with lower number than half the current page) - 1 vote

Ace of hearts.

That proposal needs a title to be valid.
(Also, I'm thinking you want to change your nickname now...)
dudiobugtron wrote:The jellybean did taste like cockroach, it's just that you'd smoked a marijuana cigarette first so didn't really mind.

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No, I think I like my nickname, and would like to keep it.

Refinement of the voting system.
I propose that people may have several votes, and that the number of votes needed to pass or repeal a motion be raised to 5 (and later even higher when players get more votes) If this motion is accepted, people get votes for the following:
* Playing Pure Nomic - 1 vote
* Membership in the Ethics council - 1 vote
* Seniority (having posted on a page with lower number than half the current page) - 1 vote
Votes may be used once on each proposal. If you do not mention how many votes you use, it is assumed that you use all your votes.

Ace of diamonds
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I vote for prop 14.

Ace of Clubs

Rosewinsall

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anyone still here?
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orangedragonfire

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I am. flicky occasionally is.

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I do make sure to update the wiki within a day of the latest post.
dudiobugtron wrote:The jellybean did taste like cockroach, it's just that you'd smoked a marijuana cigarette first so didn't really mind.

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### Re: Pure Nomic

I vote for proposition 12.

Queen of Hearts
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orangedragonfire

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### Re: Pure Nomic

I'm going mining for gems.

1d12=3, 1d12=2

I get 3 Rubies.
dudiobugtron wrote:The jellybean did taste like cockroach, it's just that you'd smoked a marijuana cigarette first so didn't really mind.

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1d12=6; 1d12=6

I get 6 Emeralds.
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orangedragonfire

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I'm going mining.

1d12=6 1d12=5

I get 6 Beryls.

Rosewinsall

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I choose the nickname Shima.
I'm going mining for gems.
1d12=10, 1d12=9
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### Re: Pure Nomic

I'm going MINING:
http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/search/1073500/
I get 8 Peridots

I vote FOR proposition 13. ANOTHER CHANGE TO RULE 20.

I vote AGAINST proposition 14. Refinement of the voting system.

ON THE PURPOSE OF AN ETHICS COMMITTEE
I propose that the ethics committee be disbanded and rule #14 be repealed, on the grounds that both serve no purpose. If an ethics committee or a similar body is to be in effect, it must satisfy at least the follwing criteria:
(a) it must have a clearly defined purpose
(b) it must be in principle open to any player (the exact method for determining membership in such a body to be determined at the time of its inception).

7 of Diamonds
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In the dance, as it endlessly circles / I linger close to your mouth.
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I vote for prop 15.
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Phew... wiki updated. (I think that's the most I've had to do in one go since I first made the wiki page!)

Also, welcome to the game, shimavet!
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dudiobugtron wrote:The jellybean did taste like cockroach, it's just that you'd smoked a marijuana cigarette first so didn't really mind.

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### Re: Pure Nomic

I'm going mining for gems.

1d12=12, 1d12=7
I get 12 Citrines.

I vote for proposition 15. (New rule!)

3 of Clubs.
dudiobugtron wrote:The jellybean did taste like cockroach, it's just that you'd smoked a marijuana cigarette first so didn't really mind.

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### Re: Pure Nomic

I'm going mining for gems.
1d12=3, 1d12=4
Join Nomic 16.0, a game where changing the rules is a move.
shimavet

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I'm going mining for gems.

1d12=8, 1d12=3
8 diamonds for me.
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