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Create your own political party (or join one)

Postby Thesh » Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:57 pm UTC

ITT you can do the following:

1) Create a Political Party (must list a platform)
2) Join a Political Party (only ones created in this thread)
3) Attack other members and political parties beliefs
4) Argue why you or your party are better than everyone else

Independents are allowed

I am starting the Green Libertarian Progressive Reform Party:

We believe that all people should be able to own firearms, as long as they don't have a criminal history or mental illness
We believe that all firearms should be legal, but destructive devices (grenade launchers, rocket launchers, etc.) should require you get approval by the government
We believe that Nuclear and Solar are the future, and coal needs to go ASAP
We are pro-choice
We are pro-gay marriage
We are pro-polygamy
We are pro-bigamy
We are pro-prostitution
We are pro-gambling
We believe all drugs should be legalized
We support industry-specific patent terms (e.g. pharmaceuticals require long terms for testing and approval, but software should have short terms)
We accept the fact that cats make better pets than dogs
We believe that the only tax should be personal income tax and that all income should be treated equal
We believe that businesses should be regulated when necessary for competition and to prevent the consumers from being screwed over
We believe that all natural monopolies should be government ran
We believe that the first world should make it a primary goal to uplift all third and second world countries to the same level as us (thereby ending immigration as an issue)
We accept people from all races, nationalities, genders, and sexual orientations. Except Canadians. Fuck them.
We are generally anti-war, but support intervening if there are massive human rights violations or intervening to stop a war. Also, we do believe that there needs to be an immidiate preemptive strike on Canada.
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Re: Create your own political party (or join one)

Postby eculc » Tue Sep 04, 2012 10:55 pm UTC

I am starting the Canadian Aggression Neutralization and Destruction Awareness Platform, informally known as team C.A.N.A.D.A cwutididthar?

We believe in everything pro-canada.
Um, this post feels devoid of content. Good luck?
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Re: Create your own political party (or join one)

Postby Thesh » Tue Sep 04, 2012 11:09 pm UTC

When will you people learn that Canada is basically Soviet Russia?

Stalin is from a cold country
Canada = cold country
USSR put troops in Afghanistan
Canada put troops in Afghanistan

QED
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Re: Create your own political party (or join one)

Postby turkbaris13 » Wed Sep 05, 2012 3:37 pm UTC

I am starting the Turkish United Party

We believe that every person should need to educated
We believe that all soldiers needs to get more money
We believe that ecuation is key to success
We believe all the teachers needs to get more money
We believe that all the doctors needs to get money
We believe that all the citizens has freedom of religion
We believe that all the citizens has freedom of press
We believe that all the citizens has freedom of speech
We believe that all the citizens has freedom of meeting
We believe that all the citizens has freedom of to petition to anybody
We are pro Turkish
We are pro capitalist
We are pro security
We are pro education
We are pro nationalist
We are pro patriot
We are pro independence
We are pro democratic
We are pro idealist
We are anti gambling
We are anti racisim
We support factories who supports miliartery
We accept people who are mostly Turkish or half Turkish and other races to, they can be any relgion as long as they know Turkish or a bit, everyone come from any race but not gay, we believe to expand Turkish culture over the world and expand the country over Turkish fluent. We little support war more than peace.

A quick question where our party should be in? in US or where?

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Re: Create your own political party (or join one)

Postby Snark » Wed Sep 05, 2012 4:36 pm UTC

I am starting the Tautuology Party

We believe in things. Not all things. But some things.
We believe that the things we believe in are true.
We believe that the things we don't believe in are false.
We support laws that allow citizens to do things we believe in.
We support laws that prohibit citizens from doing things we don't believe in.

One of the things we believe in is good grammar. We attack the Turkish United Party on the grounds that their first statement "We believe that every person should need to get educated." shows that the TUP document writer should need to get educated before they start telling everyone else that they should need to have getting themselves some learning and educating things.
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Re: Create your own political party (or join one)

Postby Bartimaeus » Wed Sep 05, 2012 4:44 pm UTC

I am starting the "Enlightenment" Party.

We believe in the idea of enlightenment.
We believe that the idea of enlightenment can be achieved by anyone, if they work for it.
We believe that enlightenment can be found by reaching one million posts in the "Count to a Million" thread.
We post in the "Count to a Million," in the hopes of reaching enlightenment.

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Re: Create your own political party (or join one)

Postby Dr. Diaphanous » Wed Sep 05, 2012 4:50 pm UTC

Thesh wrote:When will you people learn that Canada is basically Soviet Russia?

Stalin is from a cold country
Canada = cold country
USSR put troops in Afghanistan
Canada put troops in Afghanistan

QED


Stalin was from Georgia.
Georgia borders Turkey.
Maybe you should attack the Turkish United Party instead.

However, Turkey is about 140 km from Russia at the closest point.
Canada is about 1300 km from Russia.
The USA is about 84km from Russia.

Therefore the USA is the USSR-iest country being discussed.

What is the major power in the cold war?
What country was in the space race?
The first 2 letters are even the same!

Therefore the USA should invade itself.
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Re: Create your own political party (or join one)

Postby Bhelliom » Wed Sep 05, 2012 4:54 pm UTC

Holy shit thesh, sign me up! I dont seem to have the same beef with Canada that you do, but I can look past that.
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Re: Create your own political party (or join one)

Postby Snark » Wed Sep 05, 2012 4:57 pm UTC

The Tautology Party would like to issue a public statement:

For each new member that joins our party, our number of party members will increase by one.

And that's a promise that the TP will keep. Unless we break it.
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Re: Create your own political party (or join one)

Postby turkbaris13 » Wed Sep 05, 2012 5:14 pm UTC

For Tautuology Party one thing we also support is the things to make sense and tell the people what are your ideas are. If you make sense your party will grow if it doesn't, it will fall like your party.

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Re: Create your own political party (or join one)

Postby Lorenz » Wed Sep 05, 2012 5:16 pm UTC

I will join the TP, if I become a member of the TP.

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Re: Create your own political party (or join one)

Postby Snark » Wed Sep 05, 2012 5:20 pm UTC

turkbaris13 wrote:For Tautuology Party one thing we also support is the things to make sense and tell the people what are your ideas are. If you make sense your party will grow if it doesn't, it will fall like your party.
Once again, you're self contradicting. Something very irksome to the Tautology Party, whose members and laws are self affirming.

Lorenz wrote:I will join the TP, if I become a member of the TP.
This is truth if it is correct.
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Re: Create your own political party (or join one)

Postby turkbaris13 » Wed Sep 05, 2012 5:24 pm UTC

And you make no sense again TP

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Re: Create your own political party (or join one)

Postby themperor17 » Wed Sep 05, 2012 5:27 pm UTC

I will join Turkish United Party or TUP since I am Turkish too :)

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Re: Create your own political party (or join one)

Postby turkbaris13 » Wed Sep 05, 2012 5:29 pm UTC

Yes you are welcome to join our party more members better it is

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Re: Create your own political party (or join one)

Postby orangedragonfire » Wed Sep 05, 2012 6:00 pm UTC

I am starting the International Nomical Party.

--- AWESOME PLATFORM OF AWESOMENESS ---

- We believe that our platform should be open to change by our members.
- Currently, any change must be approved of by a majority of its active members in order to take effect.
- Active members are at any point in time members that have posted in this thread in the last week.
- We allow anything to become a member that can express a desire to do so. This includes forum threads, coffeemugs with the inscription "I want to join the International Nomical Party", other political parties and spambots. Anyone who expressed a desire to become a member of this party may do so by expressing a desire to do so in this thread, or having someone express said desire on their behalf if they are unable to do so themselves (coffeemugs, for instance, are notorious for their inability to post in forum threads)
- We also support all Nomic games, and encourage people to play those.

--- END OF PLATFORM ---



Can your cooperate with other political parties?

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Re: Create your own political party (or join one)

Postby Lorenz » Wed Sep 05, 2012 6:13 pm UTC

If I post "I want to join the International Nomical Party" anywhere in this thread, I will become a member of it.
This post includes the phrase "I want to join the International Nomical Party"
I posted my post.
I am now a member of the International Nomical Party

Motion to avoid a bot controlled party:
No more than one spam-bot per household or IP-adress may become a member of the International Nomical Party


I vote in favor of the motion to avoid a bot controlled party


By joining multiple parties, I have become a member of more than one party.

Snark wrote:This is truth if it is correct.

False. My statement is true whether or not it is correct, as long as it's true.

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Re: Create your own political party (or join one)

Postby orangedragonfire » Wed Sep 05, 2012 6:18 pm UTC

I vote for the Motion to avoid a bot controlled party.
It is now part of our party platform.

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Re: Create your own political party (or join one)

Postby Lorenz » Wed Sep 05, 2012 6:37 pm UTC

I am starting the Counting Party:

Mission: To count every countable thing within this thread.

-We believe information is the most sacred resource
-We believe counting is the most basic way to gather information
-In order to become a member, you must increase the amount of gathered information in the "Single Book of Counting"
-All information must be accurate in the current time (i.e current post).
-If information is out of date, it must be specified as to when was the last time it was updated.
-Breaking any of the rules will automatically ban you from the party, until you become a member again (as per the rule on how to become a member)
-If you are a simultaneous member of this party, and the Internationa Nomical Party, you are granted permission to modify this rules, as per the INP rules.

SINGLE BOOK OF COUNTING
- Total count of different BOOKS OF COUNTING: 1
- Posts in thread: 18
- Parties in thread: 7
- Members of the Counting Party: 1
- Members of the International Nomical Party: 2
- Amount of members on all parties: 8
- Amount of posts by Lorentz, within this thread: 3
- Amount of characters in OP (Main post only, excludes signature, title, etc...): 1872
- Amount of approved motions in the International Nomical Party: 1
- Amount of characters in the SINGLE BOOK OF COUNTING: 540
- Amount of counted objects in the SBoC (self-inclusive): 11

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Re: Create your own political party (or join one)

Postby orangedragonfire » Wed Sep 05, 2012 6:42 pm UTC

On behalf of Pure Nomic II, I am hereby expressing the desire to join the International Nomical Party. (see also rule 45 of the Pure Nomic II rules)

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Re: Create your own political party (or join one)

Postby shimavet » Wed Sep 05, 2012 6:47 pm UTC

I want to join the International Nomical Party.

On behalf of the string "I am a string named string 1. I want to join the International Nomical Party. I approve of everything shimavet approves of and vote for everything shimavet votes for. I authorize shimavet to post messages on my behalf in any thread.", I hereby express its desire to join the International Nomical Party.

On behalf of the string "I am a string named string 2. I want to join the International Nomical Party. I approve of everything shimavet approves of and vote for everything shimavet votes for. I authorize shimavet to post messages on my behalf in any thread.", I hereby express its desire to join the International Nomical Party.

On behalf of the string "I am a string named string 3. I want to join the International Nomical Party. I approve of everything shimavet approves of and vote for everything shimavet votes for. I authorize shimavet to post messages on my behalf in any thread.", I hereby express its desire to join the International Nomical Party.
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Re: Create your own political party (or join one)

Postby Lorenz » Wed Sep 05, 2012 6:48 pm UTC

May I say that Pure Nomic II is still not a member?

Awesome Platford of Awesomeness wrote:We allow anything to become a member that can express a desire to do so.


Proposition to allow a poster to speak in behalf of a non-poster:
A member of a different thread, party, object, or any other non-capable-to-post entity, may speak in behalf of said entity, as long as it is expressing the desire of said entity, as per its own rules


I vote in favor or proposition to allow a poster to speak in behalf of a non-poster

Proposition to avoid dictatorships:
A member of the INP, may not award its vote to another member, in any case.


I vote in favor or proposition to avoid dictatorships


Proposition to avoid dictatorships:
A non-active member of the INP, may not award its vote to an active member, in any case.


I vote in favor or proposition to avoid dictatorships
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Re: Create your own political party (or join one)

Postby shimavet » Wed Sep 05, 2012 6:54 pm UTC

I vote in favor of proposition to allow a poster to speak in behalf of a non-poster.
If Strings 1, 2 , and 3 are members, they also vote in favor of proposition to allow a poster to speak in behalf of a non-poster.

--- AWESOME PLATFORM OF AWESOMENESS ---

- We believe that our platform should be open to change by our members.
- Currently, any change must be approved of by a majority of its active members in order to take effect.
- Active members are at any point in time members that have posted in this thread in the last week.
- We allow anything to become a member that can express a desire to do so. This includes forum threads, coffeemugs with the inscription "I want to join the International Nomical Party", other political parties and spambots. Anyone who expressed a desire to become a member of this party may do so by expressing a desire to do so in this thread, or having someone express said desire on their behalf if they are unable to do so themselves (coffeemugs, for instance, are notorious for their inability to post in forum threads)
- We also support all Nomic games, and encourage people to play those.
- No more than one spam-bot per household or IP-adress may become a member of the International Nomical Party.
- A member of a different thread, party, object, or any other non-capable-to-post entity, may speak in behalf of said entity, as long as it is expressing the desire of said entity, as per its own rules.

--- END OF PLATFORM ---

If Strings 1, 2, and 3 are not members, I once again express on their behalves their desire to become members.
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Re: Create your own political party (or join one)

Postby Lorenz » Wed Sep 05, 2012 6:57 pm UTC

Strings 1, 2, and 3 are members, but not active members. Therefore, they cannot vote.

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Re: Create your own political party (or join one)

Postby Thesh » Wed Sep 05, 2012 10:43 pm UTC

turkbaris13 wrote:A quick question where our party should be in? in US or where?


Forum Games, primarily this thread.
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Re: Create your own political party (or join one)

Postby orangedragonfire » Wed Sep 05, 2012 11:06 pm UTC

Will we have elections?

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Re: Create your own political party (or join one)

Postby Thesh » Wed Sep 05, 2012 11:12 pm UTC

Possibly, but we would need more participants.
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Re: Create your own political party (or join one)

Postby Darkname » Wed Sep 05, 2012 11:49 pm UTC

I am starting the Radical Militarized Union Party R.M. U.P.

(used first post as guide)

We believe that all people should be own firearms, and be trained to use them effectively
We believe that all firearms should be legal
We believe that all power sources are to be used and put to use A.S.A.P.
We are pro-choice
We are anti-gay marriage
We are pro-polygamy
We are anti-bigamy
We are pro-prostitution
We are pro-gambling
We believe that all drugs need to be controlled and taxed
We support industry-specific patent terms, any patent terms preventing in furthering the advancement of the military are illegal.
We believe that tax is necessary and will tax almost everything
We believe that all businesses should be regulated
We believe that all natural monopolies should be government ran
We believe that tax dollars should be spent to improve our nation and our nation only
We accept people from all races, nationalities,and genders
We are pro-war, but do want to involve ourselves with any other nations militarily
We believe that grammer is useless


The things that the Tautuology Party Believe are not true and useless, so their core beliefs are untrustable!
BLARG!!

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Re: Create your own political party (or join one)

Postby matt96 » Thu Sep 06, 2012 3:41 am UTC

I am forming the noncontroversial logic party for the advancement of higher learning, technology, and society party (nclpftaofhltasp)
We are pro-logic
We support the development of technologies that allow us to avoid having to have a stance on controversial topics
We are racist against racists who are racist against a group of people who are not themselves racists who don't fit into the category of racist that we are.
We are against hating Canada for being Canada, but not against hating Canada for any other reason.
We are in support of limiting the people allowed to take part in making important decisions to exclude persons who are judged as mentally unfit to make important decisions, as decided by a basic test of logic and reasoning, and having at least basic knowledge of the subject matter of the decision which it is being judged if they are capable of making an informed decision on.
We agree that the importance of the Tautology party is the importance of the Tautology party.
We are against the legalization of drugs which cause moderate to severe damage to the body of the person taking it with no medicinal value.
We are for making it illegal to intentionally administer or aid in the administration of drugs which fit in the category above or poisons to any living person, without explicitly getting permission from the government.
We are in favor of our all persons actually thinking about decisions that need to be made rather than blindly following their party(ies) platform.
We are in favor of standardizing national/global education.
We approve of the bull moose party.
We are for removing bias from history books, and making Tesla more of a household name rather than Edison
We are for having the amount of tax one pays increase with their salary, but against having the amount one earns yearly after tax be a noncontinuous function.
We are against having any of our views being seen as controversial.
We are for gambling, as some types support intelligence and quickly calculating odds and making informed predictions of how well the competition has it, and the other is essentially a tax on the stupid and those who prefer an almost certainty of losing a small amount with an infinitesimal chance of a huge payout, who also fit into the category of stupid.
We are in favor of putting a focus on infrastructure

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Re: Create your own political party (or join one)

Postby orangedragonfire » Thu Sep 06, 2012 2:59 pm UTC

Thesh wrote:ITT you can do the following:
...
3) Attack other members and political parties beliefs
...

I'll be doing this now.

Thesh wrote:I am starting the Green Libertarian Progressive Reform Party:

We believe that all firearms should be legal, but destructive devices (grenade launchers, rocket launchers, etc.) should require you get approval by the government

This shows a major disrespect for human life. Grenade Launchers and Rocket launchers are about as dangerous to humans as firearms, while they are much more dangerous to buildings and other property. So by banning only destructive devices, you are basically saying that you value material things like buildings much higher than human lives.

Thesh wrote:We believe that the only tax should be personal income tax and that all income should be treated equal

All income should be treated equal? If a person slaves for 20 hours a day to get minimal wage, the should pay equal tax to those that get millions just from interest to money they have in a bank? This seems highly unfair to me.

Thesh wrote:We believe that businesses should be regulated when necessary for competition and to prevent the consumers from being screwed over

Just pointing out that "When necessary" is a highly subjective phrase that can be completely abused. Given human psychology and human history we can say safely that if something can be abused, it eventually will be abused.


turkbaris13 wrote:I am starting the Turkish United Party

We believe that all soldiers needs to get more money
We believe all the teachers needs to get more money
We believe that all the doctors needs to get money

And where would you get all the extra money to give these people?

turkbaris13 wrote:We are pro independence

Which fits in how with your general policy of war? How can people stay independent in a war? Soldiers are dependent on the military industry for weapons and ammunition, and civilians are dependent of soldiers to protect them. Not to mention that most people actually don't want to die, so by forcing a war on them, you are taking away their freedom to stay alive.

Snark wrote:I am starting the Tautuology Party

We believe in things. Not all things. But some things.
We believe that the things we believe in are true.
We believe that the things we don't believe in are false.
We support laws that allow citizens to do things we believe in.
We support laws that prohibit citizens from doing things we don't believe in.

I've got nothing. Carry on.


Bartimaeus wrote:I am starting the "Enlightenment" Party.

We believe in the idea of enlightenment.
We believe that the idea of enlightenment can be achieved by anyone, if they work for it.
We believe that enlightenment can be found by reaching one million posts in the "Count to a Million" thread.
We post in the "Count to a Million," in the hopes of reaching enlightenment.

Is this achievement per person? Or does it just have to be 1 million posts total? If so, do people who just posted once get the same enlightenment as those that posted hundreds of thousands of times?


Lorenz wrote:I am starting the Counting Party:

Mission: To count every countable thing within this thread.

Why don't you count the number of things in the SINGLE BOOK OF COUNTING that do not count themselves?

Darkname wrote:I am starting the Radical Militarized Union Party R.M. U.P.

We believe that all power sources are to be used and put to use A.S.A.P.

... so... burn everything we have? (technically, it can be used to make power)

Darkname wrote:We believe that all natural monopolies should be government ran

And how would we know to trust the government? (also, what do you define as natural monopolies? Does water count? Air?)

Darkname wrote:The things that the Tautuology Party Believe are not true and useless, so their core beliefs are untrustable!

... do you even know what a tautology is? Of course they are true, and of course they are useless. That's pretty much integral to the definition of a tautology.

matt96 wrote:I am forming the noncontroversial logic party for the advancement of higher learning, technology, and society party (nclpftaofhltasp)
We are in support of limiting the people allowed to take part in making important decisions to exclude persons who are judged as mentally unfit to make important decisions, as decided by a basic test of logic and reasoning, and having at least basic knowledge of the subject matter of the decision which it is being judged if they are capable of making an informed decision on.

Human in general are pretty much unfit to make important decisions. Our minds have far too many biases, or integral mistakes in our thought processes. This only gets worse if you are put in a position of power; it is natural for humans to abuse such power. So, here's the question: How the heck do you propose that we find people who are capable of making good important decisions?!

matt96 wrote:We are for removing bias from history books, and making Tesla more of a household name rather than Edison

I would argue that this is impossible. You cannot possibly teach all the available information, and all possible interpretations thereof, simply because there isn't enough time. Therefore, you have to choose a limited amount of information about history. Thus the education the children will get will be biased.

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Re: Create your own political party (or join one)

Postby Snark » Thu Sep 06, 2012 5:10 pm UTC

orangedragonfire wrote:
Thesh wrote:ITT you can do the following:
...
3) Attack other members and political parties beliefs
...

I'll be doing this now.

Snark wrote:I am starting the Tautuology Party

We believe in things. Not all things. But some things.
We believe that the things we believe in are true.
We believe that the things we don't believe in are false.
We support laws that allow citizens to do things we believe in.
We support laws that prohibit citizens from doing things we don't believe in.

I've got nothing. Carry on.

:mrgreen:

The Tautology Party believes the following things:
1. If elections are going to be held, elections will be held.
2. For every person that votes for a candidate, the number of votes that said candidate receives will increase by the value of the vote said person cast.
3. When the voting is over and the votes have been counted, the candidate(s) who received the highest number of votes shall have had more votes cast for them than for anyone else.
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Re: Create your own political party (or join one)

Postby turkbaris13 » Thu Sep 06, 2012 5:13 pm UTC

orangedragonfire wrote:
Thesh wrote:ITT you can do the following:


turkbaris13 wrote:I am starting the Turkish United Party

We believe that all soldiers needs to get more money
We believe all the teachers needs to get more money
We believe that all the doctors needs to get money

And where would you get all the extra money to give these people?

turkbaris13 wrote:We are pro independence

Which fits in how with your general policy of war? How can people stay independent in a war? Soldiers are dependent on the military industry for weapons and ammunition, and civilians are dependent of soldiers to protect them. Not to mention that most people actually don't want to die, so by forcing a war on them, you are taking away their freedom to stay alive.
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Well we will have money from taxes, and if a country goes wars and wins them they will get the treasury of the other country that they invaded maybe people won't be happy in beggining but they will when war is over and also I mean we are independent that means we are not dependent on other parties or countries
We make a law we are now anti grammer too

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Re: Create your own political party (or join one)

Postby orangedragonfire » Thu Sep 06, 2012 5:57 pm UTC

turkbaris13 wrote:maybe people won't be happy in beggining but they will when war is over

Yeah... because it's so nice to know that you won a war, robbed another country of their freedom by doing so, and probably lost a relative in the process because they'd been drafted into the army. Oh sure, of course this will make people happy.

turkbaris13 wrote:and also I mean we are independent that means we are not dependent on other parties or countries

Ah, I see. So you are just pro yourself being independent, and don't care about others. Good to know.

turkbaris13 wrote:We make a law we are now anti grammer too

(I'm assuming you mean grammar and not actually grammer)

Woah, hold on. Since when do you get to make laws? We haven't even had an election yet. Also, what would an anti-grammar law look like? "Itt foarbidden iis twoo writte anny wourd corectly oor rithe ourdor iinn."

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Re: Create your own political party (or join one)

Postby Rosewinsall » Thu Sep 06, 2012 6:54 pm UTC

I want to join the International Nomical Party

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Re: Create your own political party (or join one)

Postby turkbaris13 » Thu Sep 06, 2012 6:55 pm UTC

orangedragonfire wrote:
turkbaris13 wrote:maybe people won't be happy in beggining but they will when war is over

Yeah... because it's so nice to know that you won a war, robbed another country of their freedom by doing so, and probably lost a relative in the process because they'd been drafted into the army. Oh sure, of course this will make people happy.

turkbaris13 wrote:and also I mean we are independent that means we are not dependent on other parties or countries

Ah, I see. So you are just pro yourself being independent, and don't care about others. Good to know.

turkbaris13 wrote:We make a law we are now anti grammer too

(I'm assuming you mean grammar and not actually grammer)

Woah, hold on. Since when do you get to make laws? We haven't even had an election yet. Also, what would an anti-grammar law look like? "Itt foarbidden iis twoo writte anny wourd corectly oor rithe ourdor iinn."


No it is just we don't care about grammar like one of the parties did to and since there are two members in my party I am the president right now and soon we will plan our party sytem like voting etc.

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Re: Create your own political party (or join one)

Postby Thesh » Thu Sep 06, 2012 11:11 pm UTC

orangedragonfire wrote:This shows a major disrespect for human life. Grenade Launchers and Rocket launchers are about as dangerous to humans as firearms, while they are much more dangerous to buildings and other property. So by banning only destructive devices, you are basically saying that you value material things like buildings much higher than human lives.


So you are saying that you want a world where everyone takes to the streets and blows people up? And you say I don't care about human life?

orangedragonfire wrote:All income should be treated equal? If a person slaves for 20 hours a day to get minimal wage, the should pay equal tax to those that get millions just from interest to money they have in a bank? This seems highly unfair to me.


Ah, I see you are spreading more misinformation, which I suppose is the only way to get people to support your ridiculous party.

Income treated equally does not mean flat tax! It just means that people investment income won't be treated different than an hourly wage or salary.

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Thesh wrote:We believe that businesses should be regulated when necessary for competition and to prevent the consumers from being screwed over

Just pointing out that "When necessary" is a highly subjective phrase that can be completely abused. Given human psychology and human history we can say safely that if something can be abused, it eventually will be abused.


The point is to stop regulations which only serve to help big businesses and hurts small business and consumers, e.g. the regulations in the US that enforce a three tiered system for alcohol distribution. If you are honestly suggesting we should have no regulation, or we should have a strict definition of what should be regulated, then you are delusional.
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Re: Create your own political party (or join one)

Postby Drowsy Turtle » Thu Sep 06, 2012 11:31 pm UTC

I am forming the Nihilist Association (N/A) party.

We don't believe in anything.
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Re: Create your own political party (or join one)

Postby orangedragonfire » Thu Sep 06, 2012 11:50 pm UTC

Thesh wrote:So you are saying that you want a world where everyone takes to the streets and blows people up? And you say I don't care about human life?

No, I don't think we should allow either firearms nor explosives. Where in my argument did you get the idea that I was for explosives? I was just stating the fact that firearms do tend to do more damage to humans than to property; a man with a gun is as dangerous to a human as a man with a bomb. But a man with a bomb is more dangerous to a house. So what possible reason could you have for supporting the right to bear firearms but not guns? Obviously, it's not human safety, which is already violated if people can bear guns freely. The only thing I could come up with was that you appear to care about the safety of building, and other material things that would not be hurt much by guns, but would be by explosives.

Thesh wrote:Ah, I see you are spreading more misinformation, which I suppose is the only way to get people to support your ridiculous party.

Ad hominem.

Thesh wrote:Income treated equally does not mean flat tax! It just means that people investment income won't be treated different than an hourly wage or salary.

Fine, but my point still stands. If two people earn the same amount, but one of them has to work hard for it, while the other can just relax while he gets interest for a fortune he inherited, it is still unfair to tax them both the same.

Thesh wrote:The point is to stop regulations which only serve to help big businesses and hurts small business and consumers, e.g. the regulations in the US that enforce a three tiered system for alcohol distribution. If you are honestly suggesting we should have no regulation, or we should have a strict definition of what should be regulated, then you are delusional.

I'm not against regulations. The point I was trying to make is that you are making vague formulations which would still give people a lot of power over businesses, which is easy to abuse. And given human nature it will be abused. It doesn't matter what the intentions were, what the point of making this was, or whether you had the best of intentions.

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Re: Create your own political party (or join one)

Postby Thesh » Sat Sep 08, 2012 1:13 am UTC

I think people are sick of your negative attacks.

Join the Green Libertarian Progressive Reform Party! We serve cookies at our meetings and conventions! Like, all sorts of cookies. Either homemade or from local privately owned bakeries. Sometimes I go to my Grandmother's to help her make cookies for me. She has these deep fried cookies called rosettes. They are all in Christmas shapes, but they are awesome year round. They are like this thin batter and you dip an iron in it, and then into the deep fryer. They are really thin and crispy and are dipped in sugar (either powdered or colored).
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Re: Create your own political party (or join one)

Postby Dr. Diaphanous » Sat Sep 08, 2012 2:38 pm UTC

I immediately join the Green Libertarian Progressive Reform Party! Where are the cookies?
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