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Need to confirm my thinking on a probability problem

Postby newbie » Sun Apr 22, 2012 10:15 pm UTC

Hi this is a homework problem, so I am not looking for an answer. Just want to confirm my thinking is right, because this seems too simple. We are given
\xi is a random variable following the standard normal distribution. Find E\left( {\xi |{\xi ^2}} \right).
It seem given {{\xi ^2}}>0 we only have two possibilities for \xi of opposite sign with equal probability. So E\left( {\xi |{\xi ^2}} \right)=0

Am I missing something???
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Re: Need to confirm my thinking on a probability problem

Postby Macbi » Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:08 pm UTC

newbie wrote:Hi this is a homework problem, so I am not looking for an answer. Just want to confirm my thinking is right, because this seems too simple. We are given
\xi is a random variable following the standard normal distribution. Find E\left( {\xi |{\xi ^2}} \right).
It seem given {{\xi ^2}}>0 we only have two possibilities for \xi of opposite sign with equal probability. So E\left( {\xi |{\xi ^2}} \right)=0

Am I missing something???
I don't think your missing anything. But that is a really weird question, maybe you should double check that you've read it correctly?

(Or maybe your professor doesn't like conditioning on events with probability zero, so if you answer the question they'll laugh at you because you should have written "undefined" or something dumb like that.)
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Re: Need to confirm my thinking on a probability problem

Postby z4lis » Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:50 pm UTC

How was E(X|Y) defined for you?
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Re: Need to confirm my thinking on a probability problem

Postby newbie » Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:31 pm UTC

Indirectly, assume S is a sigma algebra induced by the random variable {\xi ^2} then \int_A {\xi P\left( {d\omega } \right) = \int_A {E\left( {\xi |{\xi ^2}} \right)P\left( {d\omega } \right)} \;\forall A \in S}
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Re: Need to confirm my thinking on a probability problem

Postby z4lis » Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:39 pm UTC

Right, so I believe it suffices to assume that A is of the form \xi^2 \in B for a measurable subset B of the real line. Now you want to use the symmetry of the normal distribution.
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Re: Need to confirm my thinking on a probability problem

Postby newbie » Tue Apr 24, 2012 1:59 am UTC

Yep, that is the way I was viewing it. Thanks for the confirmation.
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