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cost of space flight

Postby lucaswschmidt » Tue May 20, 2008 3:03 am UTC

does anyone know how much a single soyeuz mission costs in american dollars, and the costs of any other comparable space flights? also, i know the price of a single virgin galactic seat but does anyone know how much a single flight is gonna cost the company themselves?

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Re: cost of space flight

Postby evilbeanfiend » Tue May 20, 2008 8:05 am UTC

iirc unmanned launch costs are usually around the $10,000 per kg area, though you also need to build what ever you want to launch which ain't cheap. not really sure what additional overheads are incurred by having reusable craft capable of transporting passengers, though its possible it will still be comparable for the launch itself.
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Re: cost of space flight

Postby Solt » Tue May 20, 2008 8:58 am UTC

There's this website, http://www.google.com. Check it out some time.

In any case, since I too am curious:

http://www.physorg.com/news5901.html

A single Soyuz mission costs about $65 million.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shut ... gram#Costs

Considering the full cost of the program, the Space Shuttle has cost about $1.3 Billion per launch so far. However, actual mission costs are as low as $60 million per since the shuttle is reusable. Keep in mind that the Shuttle carries 7 astronauts compared to 3 for the Soyuz, and the shuttle's payload capacity is about 23,000 kg to low earth orbit while Soyuz can carry about 8,000 kg.
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Re: cost of space flight

Postby lucaswschmidt » Thu May 22, 2008 2:20 am UTC

Solt wrote:There's this website, http://www.google.com. Check it out some time.

In any case, since I too am curious:

http://www.physorg.com/news5901.html

A single Soyuz mission costs about $65 million.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shut ... gram#Costs

Considering the full cost of the program, the Space Shuttle has cost about $1.3 Billion per launch so far. However, actual mission costs are as low as $60 million per since the shuttle is reusable. Keep in mind that the Shuttle carries 7 astronauts compared to 3 for the Soyuz, and the shuttle's payload capacity is about 23,000 kg to low earth orbit while Soyuz can carry about 8,000 kg.


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Re: cost of space flight

Postby Solt » Thu May 22, 2008 1:02 pm UTC

lucaswschmidt wrote:2. you're an asshat.


haha, yea...





Why did you want to know, anyway?
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Re: cost of space flight

Postby bigglesworth » Thu May 22, 2008 5:50 pm UTC

I've heard proposed costs of around $1000 a kilo with a space elevator.
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Re: cost of space flight

Postby Robin S » Thu May 22, 2008 8:35 pm UTC

I can't imagine how anyone could get even a ballpark figure for something like a space elevator until a practical design is well on its way to completion.
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Re: cost of space flight

Postby Yakk » Thu May 22, 2008 9:52 pm UTC

The marginal costs for a space elevator tends to be energy based.

Although, there are also capacity problems -- which would mean that the cost of building the elevator folds into the cost of the elevator.

You can always use the elevator, however, to build more elevators cheaper...
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Re: cost of space flight

Postby lucaswschmidt » Fri May 23, 2008 12:36 am UTC

Solt wrote:
lucaswschmidt wrote:2. you're an asshat.


haha, yea...





Why did you want to know, anyway?



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the problem is that many things that are considered general knowledge in america are very specific knowledge in japan that the average person won't understand :(

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Re: cost of space flight

Postby lucaswschmidt » Fri May 23, 2008 1:05 am UTC

Yakk wrote:The marginal costs for a space elevator tends to be energy based.

Although, there are also capacity problems -- which would mean that the cost of building the elevator folds into the cost of the elevator.

You can always use the elevator, however, to build more elevators cheaper...


speaking of space elevators, they're gonna be the end of mankind. has anyone heard or read of the bacteria found on MIR that can dissolve titanium? they developed as a result of normal earthy bacteria being brought up into space and exposed to high levels of solar radiation, mutating, and finding that there's large amounts of food hidden away behind titanium paneling.

if we start putting space elevators into common use we're going to be sending shipments up to space and back very regularly. killing all of the bacteria on every shipment is going to be impossible so we're going to be exposing a large amount of everyday bacteria to solar radiation.

you do the math.

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Re: cost of space flight

Postby jmorgan3 » Fri May 23, 2008 4:53 am UTC

lucaswschmidt wrote:speaking of space elevators, they're gonna be the end of mankind. has anyone heard or read of the bacteria found on MIR that can dissolve titanium? they developed as a result of normal earthy bacteria being brought up into space and exposed to high levels of solar radiation, mutating, and finding that there's large amounts of food hidden away behind titanium paneling.

if we start putting space elevators into common use we're going to be sending shipments up to space and back very regularly. killing all of the bacteria on every shipment is going to be impossible so we're going to be exposing a large amount of everyday bacteria to solar radiation.

you do the math.


You forget that the radiation will also give us superheroes. I'd say that evens it all out.
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Re: cost of space flight

Postby UmbralRaptor » Fri May 23, 2008 8:26 am UTC

Very roughly between 20 and 50 million. Depends on the exact setup and how good you are at negotiating.
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