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Re: Screechings of the Great Unwashed (Meander to the Morgue

Postby Menacing Spike » Sat Nov 05, 2011 1:25 am UTC

Anyone else get meta déjà-vu rather often? "I think I already thought having seen this before, so this is now the third time, but that can't be?".

This is gosh-darned annoying.

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Postby Jplus » Sat Nov 05, 2011 11:24 am UTC

I don't have it often, but I know someone who's experiencing quite a lot of déjà-vus.

Unrelated: I once had a shared déjà-vu together with two other people. We were sitting in a bus, which was driving, and we passed the same bus stop twice, with the same person standing in it with the same posture, the two events separated by about 10 to 20 minutes. It was bizarre. Especially if you consider that we were talking about The Matrix.
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Postby I Am Raven » Sat Nov 05, 2011 12:27 pm UTC

Today I bought flint for an old Zippo I had lying around, and also bought a brand new one. Then I went gift shopping for my mum's birthday. I intended to buy her a George Clooney calendar (because she's always joking around how handsome he is, and whatnot), but couldn't find one. Finally someone referred me to a shop that definitely would have it, but they closed down the day before yesterday... So I ended up buying her a plastic scorpion (because that's her Zodiac sign), and a tiny tiny Cupid, because she's in a wonderful relationship right now after a lot of years of solitude.

And I had an awesome one night stand yesterday. BOOYA!

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Postby Amarantha » Sat Nov 05, 2011 12:37 pm UTC

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Does anyone know of things that could help solve these problems? Like, a site with projects to program (like... Project Euler but with more programming and less pen-and-paper math hypothesizing) or something akin to a free online class or tutor? Those would be really helpful.
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Postby pseudoidiot » Sat Nov 05, 2011 2:24 pm UTC

Jplus wrote:Unrelated: I once had a shared déjà-vu together with two other people. We were sitting in a bus, which was driving, and we passed the same bus stop twice, with the same person standing in it with the same posture, the two events separated by about 10 to 20 minutes. It was bizarre. Especially if you consider that we were talking about The Matrix.
As described that doesn't really sound like déjà vu.
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Postby The Cat » Sat Nov 05, 2011 4:05 pm UTC

And I had an awesome one night stand yesterday. BOOYA!

That would be all.


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Postby elminster » Sat Nov 05, 2011 4:57 pm UTC

BMI is rather funny, I'm 26.6 which is "overweight" because of a stocky build. It's really such a bad indicator, I don't know how any professional could advocate it.

I'm not sure exactly how the calculations are done, but I don't see how 1-2 biscuits is equal the number of calories taken to run 1km at a moderate pace (10kph, 2degree incline)... according to product information and treadmills anyway (Just over 100 calories for each).

On a similar topic, the closest reasonable sized gym to me only has barbells that go up to 40kg, which is absolutely pitiful and weird since they have up to 30kg dumbbells.

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Postby SlyReaper » Sat Nov 05, 2011 5:12 pm UTC

30kg dumbbells? Holy crap, you'd have to be built like a brick shit-house to be able to use those properly.
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Postby micco » Sat Nov 05, 2011 6:54 pm UTC

Apparently someone living near me has a pair of wireless headphones that operate on the same frequency as my pair. And it sounds like they are watching porn at the moment.
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Postby You, sir, name? » Sat Nov 05, 2011 7:05 pm UTC

micco wrote:Apparently someone living near me has a pair of wireless headphones that operate on the same frequency as my pair. And it sounds like they are watching porn at the moment.


Get a microphone and send them messages from god through their headphones.
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Postby Magnanimous » Sat Nov 05, 2011 10:10 pm UTC

You, sir, name? wrote:
micco wrote:Apparently someone living near me has a pair of wireless headphones that operate on the same frequency as my pair. And it sounds like they are watching porn at the moment.


Get a microphone and send them messages from god through their headphones.

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Postby Deva » Sun Nov 06, 2011 1:55 am UTC

Do not forget to travel back in time by one hour, time travelers. Be wary of elderly males in vehicles equipped with flux capacitors. May result in erasure from photographs, newspapers, and the time stream.
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Postby elminster » Sun Nov 06, 2011 1:57 am UTC

SlyReaper wrote:30kg dumbbells? Holy crap, you'd have to be built like a brick shit-house to be able to use those properly.
Not really; it all depends on the exercise. I'm not "big", but I use the 28 kg for weighted side bends, up to 28kg for one arm row, and up to 26kg for dumbbell chest press. I focus on form more than most people you'll see (Slow, steady, controlled movements) and also 8-12 reps for 4 sets, so they're properly done. Although those exercises have shorter levers while using more, and larger, muscles; hence you can use a lot. The reason the barbell is the problem is that I can deadlift 3x what you can put on there.

I've seen someone smaller than me trying to biceps curl 24kgs (Note: I use 14 at most) leading to the funniest thing I've seen in a gym: Swinging, partially faced-down, quarter biceps curls.
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Postby Deva » Sun Nov 06, 2011 7:27 am UTC

Heard a loud rattling noise in the corner, near a lamp. Persisted with a consistency in sound. Immediately recalled a wasp from long ago. Located it resting on something, due to the buzzing sound it made. Has no clue how that beast snuck in without being detected beforehand. Occasionally discovered other flying, stinging insects before also, typically in the summer. Ruled out general dwelling noises. Was unfamiliar. Could not be a minor earthquake. Left "Elder Bug from the Abyss" as the most probable.

Crept closer. Inspected the lamp from a distance, searching for monstrous insects. Nothing. Seemed to originate from the base of the lamp. Edged forward to find nothing again. Glanced up and found the radio-controlled clock. Was zooming ahead in time to subtract an hour, ticking up a storm in the process. Has never heard a peep from that clock before. Dislikes that clock now.

Pinpointed the source before sleeping, at least. Prefers to not consider an "Elder Ninja Bug from the Abyss" to be a real entity nearby.
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Postby Angua » Sun Nov 06, 2011 9:45 am UTC

Deva wrote:Do not forget to travel back in time by one hour, time travelers. Be wary of elderly males in vehicles equipped with flux capacitors. May result in erasure from photographs, newspapers, and the time stream.
Hah - so naive. You don't go backwards in time - it stops for an hour. This can cause disruption of chronicles leading to a shockwave in the space-time continuum, but if you're in the UK (who went of DST last week) don't worry - [url=http://freespace.virgin.net/barry.press/home/time/official.html[Merton had you covered[/url]
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Postby Ptolom » Sun Nov 06, 2011 11:50 am UTC

Time travel is more confusing to me than it should be. Just like endianness.

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Re: Screechings of the Great Unwashed (Meander to the Morgue

Postby dumbzebra » Sun Nov 06, 2011 3:07 pm UTC

Two Computery Questions:

1. My Dad wants to buy my sister (12 years) one of those small 10'', ~250€ Laptops for watching videos, social networking and the occasional school presentation.
Any reccomendations?

2. Next year, I'm going to enroll in physics/informatic/mathematic (don't know which one yet, probably phyisics) in university and hence buy myself a laptop. Is it worth looking into a Linux OS or using both Linux and Windows? If yes, what kind of OS would your reccomend? I've been using Opensuse for the past few months (merely because I'm cheap and can't find my WIndows XP CD), but mostly to browse and the usual Office things, but I'm willing to invest some time getting into it further.
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Re: Screechings of the Great Unwashed (Meander to the Morgue

Postby Zarq » Sun Nov 06, 2011 3:14 pm UTC

dumbzebra wrote:2. Next year, I'm going to enroll in physics/informatic/mathematic (don't know which one yet, probably phyisics) in university and hence buy myself a laptop. Is it worth looking into a Linux OS or using both Linux and Windows? If yes, what kind of OS would your reccomend? I've been using Opensuse for the past few months (merely because I'm cheap and can't find my WIndows XP CD), but mostly to browse and the usual Office things, but I'm willing to invest some time getting into it further.


Definitely go for a dualboot with Windows. Your courses might require you to use programs that don't or barely work on Linux.
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Postby Menacing Spike » Sun Nov 06, 2011 4:01 pm UTC

dumbzebra wrote:2. Next year, I'm going to enroll in physics/informatic/mathematic (don't know which one yet, probably phyisics) in university and hence buy myself a laptop. Is it worth looking into a Linux OS or using both Linux and Windows? If yes, what kind of OS would your reccomend? I've been using Opensuse for the past few months (merely because I'm cheap and can't find my WIndows XP CD), but mostly to browse and the usual Office things, but I'm willing to invest some time getting into it further.


Os X / Windows dualboot. Use Windows for windows specific applications and development and games, Os X for everything else.

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Postby Zarq » Sun Nov 06, 2011 4:18 pm UTC

Why OS X? Since "everything else" probably only entails "internet and document making and stuff", OS X seems to me like a total waste of money.
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Postby dumbzebra » Sun Nov 06, 2011 4:22 pm UTC

With OS X I take it you mean an apple system? Fat chance.
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Postby RoadieRich » Sun Nov 06, 2011 4:29 pm UTC

Despite what some people will say, OSX is still quite a way ahead in "media" applications - maybe not graphics so much any more, but definitely music and video. Yes, windows is catching up slowly, but Mac had a considerable head-start. It's also the only platform you can use easily for iOS development, and the fact that it's a fancy shell over a unix - with all the standard programs that come with it - mean it's great for web-dev too: apache, perl and php are all installed, and correctly configured, as standard. Same with ftp and ssh clients, for when you want to actually upload your site.

Those last two are why I persuaded my dad to buy me a macbook.

If I could get bootcamp to work, it would be the perfect system, but it's been abused*, so it's time for an upgrade, to a Win7/debian dual boot, I'm thinking.

*It no longer shuts down or sleeps (it reboots itself, to actually shut down, you need to reboot into single-user mode), it gets extremely slow at times, and the Superdrive no longer works. It also won't connect to any of the university wifi networks, and no one can figure out why.
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Postby Zarq » Sun Nov 06, 2011 4:34 pm UTC

RoadieRich wrote:Despite what some people will say, OSX is still quite a way ahead in "media" applications - maybe not graphics so much any more, but definitely music and video. Yes, windows is catching up slowly, but Mac had a considerable head-start. It's also the only platform you can use easily for iOS development, and the fact that it's a fancy shell over a unix - with all the standard programs that come with it - mean it's great for web-dev too: apache, perl and php are all installed, and correctly configured, as standard. Same with ftp and ssh clients, for when you want to actually upload your site.

Those last two are why I persuaded my dad to buy me a macbook.

If I could get bootcamp to work, it would be the perfect system, but it's been abused*, so it's time for an upgrade, to a Win7/debian dual boot, I'm thinking.

*It no longer shuts down or sleeps (it reboots itself, to actually shut down, you need to reboot into single-user mode), it gets extremely slow at times, and the Superdrive no longer works. It also won't connect to any of the university wifi networks, and no one can figure out why.


I'm not saying OS X is useless, I'm saying it isn't what dumbzebra is looking for.
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Postby RoadieRich » Sun Nov 06, 2011 4:39 pm UTC

No, you're assuming that dumbzebra doesn't do any of those things.
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Postby Zarq » Sun Nov 06, 2011 4:43 pm UTC

That is true. Dumbzebra, do you or do you intend to do any serious video or music development, or iOS development?
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Postby dumbzebra » Sun Nov 06, 2011 5:02 pm UTC

Zarq wrote:That is true. Dumbzebra, do you or do you intend to do any serious video or music development, or iOS development?


Not at all. My interest lie, apart from browsing and the usual "office stuff" (writing papers, presentations) and a bit of gaming (which would be covered by a windows OS), in the programs I have to use for my physics, informatics or mathematics classes (if there are any, I figured since a fair share of you are/were students in these fields you could tell me) and a bit of coding.

I'm not planing on being a hardocre network developer any time soon, I realize that for my goals a Linux OS isn't neccessary. My question was if using a Linux OS, with the knowledge to use it properly, would bring any advantages in the long run* (having better control over your computer etc.). What I've heard about Linux systems is that they are often used by professionals, so they must bring some advantage, and I wondered if I could get into that too.



* apart from being goddamn cool 8)
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Postby RoadieRich » Sun Nov 06, 2011 5:17 pm UTC

dumbzebra wrote:
Zarq wrote:That is true. Dumbzebra, do you or do you intend to do any serious video or music development, or iOS development?


Not at all. My interest lie, apart from browsing and the usual "office stuff" (writing papers, presentations) and a bit of gaming (which would be covered by a windows OS), in the programs I have to use for my physics, informatics or mathematics classes (if there are any, I figured since a fair share of you are/were students in these fields you could tell me) and a bit of coding.

I'm not planing on being a hardocre network developer any time soon, I realize that for my goals a Linux OS isn't neccessary. My question was if using a Linux OS, with the knowledge to use it properly, would bring any advantages in the long run* (having better control over your computer etc.). What I've heard about Linux systems is that they are often used by professionals, so they must bring some advantage, and I wondered if I could get into that too.



* apart from being goddamn cool 8)

Now we've established that, go ahead. Although I'd argue that you don't need to be "serious" about media work to use a mac, as well as being more powerful, they're also easier for the entry-level user, due - at least in part - to Apple's pretty strict User Interface guidelines.

The advantage of linux was that it was based on unix, which was written from the start to be a multi-user, a distributed system. Multiuser and network support in windows was quite a late addition, in comparison.
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Postby Menacing Spike » Sun Nov 06, 2011 7:05 pm UTC

Speaking of apple products, here is the most stupid comment thread I've ever seen on reddit:

http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments ... on_gaming/

Yes, the iphone is totally not industry-defining. I'm sure all these ceos and executives are wrong.

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Postby Xeio » Sun Nov 06, 2011 7:32 pm UTC

Menacing Spike wrote:Speaking of apple products, here is the most stupid comment thread I've ever seen on reddit:

http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments ... on_gaming/

Yes, the iphone is totally not industry-defining. I'm sure all these ceos and executives are wrong.
Gaming industry defining? I'm curious how you think Steve Jobs affected console/PC gaming at all (unless those aren't part of the gaming industry anymore). Maybe mobile gaming, maybe, but in that respect you might as well give the award to Bill Gates for making Windows (DirectX anyone? :P ).

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Postby dumbzebra » Sun Nov 06, 2011 7:32 pm UTC

RoadieRich wrote:Now we've established that, go ahead.


So what flavour of Linux would the people of Screechings recommend (apart from apple)
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Postby Menacing Spike » Sun Nov 06, 2011 7:36 pm UTC

Xeio wrote:Yes, the iphone is totally not industry-defining. I'm sure all these ceos and executives are wrong.Gaming industry defining? I'm curious how you think Steve Jobs affected console/PC gaming at all (unless those aren't part of the gaming industry anymore). Maybe mobile gaming, maybe, but in that respect you might as well give the award to Bill Gates for making Windows (DirectX anyone? :P ).


Was not disputing the "it's wrong to award steve jobs".
It's just mobile gaming affects a LOT more people than PC/Console gaming, and most of the comments boil down to "I don't like the games, so they are not relevant". Talk about egocentrism.

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Postby Ptolom » Sun Nov 06, 2011 7:44 pm UTC

dumbzebra wrote:
RoadieRich wrote:Now we've established that, go ahead.


So what flavour of Linux would the people of Screechings recommend (apart from apple)

I like Arch. It's free of the complicated abstractions which drove me away from Ubuntu, but you have to read some man pages to learn how to edit the configuration files. It also has a really nice package manager.

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Postby Ptolom » Sun Nov 06, 2011 7:46 pm UTC

Ptolom wrote:
dumbzebra wrote:
RoadieRich wrote:Now we've established that, go ahead.


So what flavour of Linux would the people of Screechings recommend (apart from apple)

I like Arch. It's free of the complicated and messy abstractions which drove me away from Ubuntu when they seemed to go wrong with every update, but you have to read some man pages to learn how to edit the configuration files. It also has a really nice package manager.

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Postby Menacing Spike » Sun Nov 06, 2011 7:49 pm UTC

Nice edit ptolom.

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Postby I Am Raven » Sun Nov 06, 2011 7:58 pm UTC

Most people learn for their preliminary exams, right?
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Postby Ptolom » Sun Nov 06, 2011 8:12 pm UTC

Ah, crap. This is what I get for replacing sleep with internetting.

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Postby Kang » Sun Nov 06, 2011 8:44 pm UTC

dumbzebra wrote:
RoadieRich wrote:Now we've established that, go ahead.


So what flavour of Linux would the people of Screechings recommend (apart from apple)

All the computers around my office have Ubuntu installed (though not by my choice but rather by decree, but I'm not that much of a 'hardcore Linux user' anyway, so... no idea whether that's really a good choice. It at least does the science/math-related programs I've got there)

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Postby SecondTalon » Sun Nov 06, 2011 9:07 pm UTC

Xeio wrote:
Menacing Spike wrote:Speaking of apple products, here is the most stupid comment thread I've ever seen on reddit:

http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments ... on_gaming/

Yes, the iphone is totally not industry-defining. I'm sure all these ceos and executives are wrong.
Gaming industry defining? I'm curious how you think Steve Jobs affected console/PC gaming at all (unless those aren't part of the gaming industry anymore). Maybe mobile gaming, maybe, but in that respect you might as well give the award to Bill Gates for making Windows (DirectX anyone? :P ).

I have a sneaking suspicion that even at the $0.99-4.99 range, iPhone games are selling the holy shitfuck out of PC games at the moment. Hell, let's just look at figures. The best selling PC Game of all time is The Sims at 16 million units. Best figures I can find for Angry Birds is that it's been downloaded 200 million times. Even if only 1 out of every 4 of those downloads was a new purchase, that's still 25 million units moved.

So. yeah, I dunno. If you're talking about Most Influential of All Time, that's a tough one. If you're talking about in the last five or ten years? I'm.. inclined to agree that Apple is pretty fucking influential, even though almost all of that influence has been in the last.. what, four years?

For.. reasons I barely comprehend.. PC and console gaming has gotten into a vicious cycle of each new game needing millions more in it's development cycle to get released, and even at $60 a pop you have to move a shitload of units to get your $10 million back. If your development cycle only cost you $150,000, and you move 200,000 units at a buck each, you just made $50,000 dollars.

So yeah.. I see this killing the mid-range game. Games will either be multi-million dollar spectacles, or goofy little games someone slapped together over the course of a few weeks and every other month or so puts out a level pack for free to get gamer goodwill, then releases a "New" version of the game every year or so.

Lastly.. let's be honest - if you walk up to a random asshole and ask them who people are on a list of game makers, console makers and language developers, and throw Steve Jobs on the list, the average person is only going to know who Jobs is. Sid Meier, Peter Molyneux, Will Wright, Roberta Williams, Shigeru Miyamoto, Warren Spector, John Romero, Richart Garriott, John Carmack.. people who've influenced the fuck out of gaming, for good or ill.. and you might as well be reading a highschool yearbook to someone for all the fucks they're going to give. Throw a Steve Jobs in there and.. hey! I know that one!

And so... Jobs wins the title.

Doesn't hurt he recently died.
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Postby Magnanimous » Sun Nov 06, 2011 9:54 pm UTC

Wait, what was the original question? If it was about who had the biggest effect on gaming overall, I wouldn't even consider Steve Jobs. if it was about the industry then Apple's definitely in the top five, though behind Miyamoto and Gabe Newell, and probably even Ralph Baer. Mobile gaming gets all the attention because it's the most recent phenomenon.

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Postby emceng » Sun Nov 06, 2011 11:16 pm UTC

From a random livejournal I saw:
Family: My husband, Jesus, is a 7th and 8th grade math and science teacher.


Crap, guess we missed the second coming, so Jesus just decided to go into teaching.
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