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Re: Screechings of the Great Unwashed (Meander to the Morgue

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Postby OBrien » Mon May 21, 2012 12:19 pm UTC

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Postby elminster » Mon May 21, 2012 3:11 pm UTC

It's rather odd how people perceive "hand made" to be the best possible quality production. Really the technology available would allow magnitudes more accuracy if done by machine. Granted, mass production machinery isn't geared towards absolute precision; though you can't just ignore the possibilities of what machines can do purely because of that.
I can't think of any case of production that has objective measures of quality which couldn't be better produced by machines. Note, there's aren't machines to do everything a human can in production, but they can be developed.
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Re: Screechings of the Great Unwashed (Meander to the Morgue

Postby roband » Mon May 21, 2012 3:13 pm UTC

Are people looking for best quality when they buy "hand made" things?

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Re: Screechings of the Great Unwashed (Meander to the Morgue

Postby Steax » Mon May 21, 2012 3:19 pm UTC

I buy "hand made" things for their uniqueness, as in that it's unlikely another exact copy exists. It depends on the item in question, though. I have a great mosaic mirror frame that was clearly machine-made but equally good because a worker still had to break shards of glass in the correct (and unique) pattern.
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Postby bigglesworth » Mon May 21, 2012 3:36 pm UTC

elminster wrote:It's rather odd how people perceive "hand made" to be the best possible quality production.
I think 'hand made' usually means 'not production-line or fully automated'. A drill or loom is a machine of sorts, after all.
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Postby pseudoidiot » Mon May 21, 2012 3:43 pm UTC

I don't think I've ever seen anyone equate hand-made with best possible quality production.
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Postby OBrien » Mon May 21, 2012 4:09 pm UTC

Sometimes hand made can be better: When things aren't production-lined the maker can spend more time and care on the item and has a lot more room for adding their own particular flairs and designs. While I would agree that things like hand made mugs with things like "I went to Hippyfest '12!" on them are usually worse quality than your standard factory-made one, when it comes to things like tailoring and jewellery making I would say that hand made is better (though usually not worth the price).
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Postby broken_escalator » Mon May 21, 2012 7:20 pm UTC

Food seems to be better hand-made.

But we all know the best food production requires tentacles, robots, and at least one pirate.

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Postby SlyReaper » Mon May 21, 2012 7:38 pm UTC

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Postby Panonadin » Mon May 21, 2012 7:47 pm UTC

Actually now that I think about it, when I think of hand-made I do associate that with a higher quality item.

It's not rational and I've never even given it much thought, but for some reason my brain makes the association anyway.
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Postby blue_eyedspacemonkey » Mon May 21, 2012 9:31 pm UTC

I associate hand made with higher value (most likely took more time, therefore more money needed to make it worthwhile/make a profit from selling it), but not necessarily higher quality.

I guess in a way it depends on what the item is. Hand made food may be of higher quality that food which has some machine made parts, whereas for more mechanical/technological things, machine made might be higher quality?
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Postby PhoenixEnigma » Mon May 21, 2012 10:42 pm UTC

F/R/T: Why don't microwaves have volume controls?
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Postby Panonadin » Mon May 21, 2012 10:46 pm UTC

To control the volume of?
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Postby Zarq » Mon May 21, 2012 10:47 pm UTC

The beep.
You rang?

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Postby Dthen » Mon May 21, 2012 11:18 pm UTC

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Postby PhoenixEnigma » Tue May 22, 2012 1:19 am UTC

Zarq wrote:The beep.

This. I do not need a mini-klaxon of a beep at 3am in a one bedroom apartment. And I don't ever really need one every time I touch a button.
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Postby Panonadin » Tue May 22, 2012 1:23 am UTC

Since the microwave normally only beeps when it's done, you don't have the possibility of burning the house down if you don't check it.

Step 1: Get screwdriver.
Step 2: Unplug power.
Step 3: Leave the GD thing alone b/c I don't know if they use caps and need to discharge.
Step 4: Find location of speaker and take that shit out.
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Postby Josephine » Tue May 22, 2012 1:34 am UTC

When I want to be quiet with the microwave, I just stand by it for the last minute or so and stop it by pushing the open button/lever thing. if i'm really paranoid about it, i don't even clear the one second left on it, as that makes a beep.
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Postby UniqueScreenname » Tue May 22, 2012 2:27 am UTC

elminster wrote:It's rather odd how people perceive "hand made" to be the best possible quality production. Really the technology available would allow magnitudes more accuracy if done by machine. Granted, mass production machinery isn't geared towards absolute precision; though you can't just ignore the possibilities of what machines can do purely because of that.
I can't think of any case of production that has objective measures of quality which couldn't be better produced by machines. Note, there's aren't machines to do everything a human can in production, but they can be developed.

Stradovarius, perhaps?
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Postby Giant Speck » Tue May 22, 2012 8:36 am UTC

PhoenixEnigma wrote:F/R/T: Why don't microwaves have volume controls?

I wish there was a way to shut off the buzzer on my dryer.
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Postby eSOANEM » Tue May 22, 2012 8:55 am UTC

Panonadin wrote:Step 3: Leave the GD thing alone b/c I don't know if they use caps and need to discharge.


Having poked around inside a microwave and removed all the interesting bits, they only really seem to have one high voltage cap which is IIRC connected between the step-up transformer and the magnetron. It's also quite a big (in terms of capacitance) cap so it probably won't discharge much at all just by leaving it. Good thing is, it's in the magnetron's circuit which has no direct connection to the control panel and the bleeper so as long as you avoid anything magnetron-ward of the step-up transformer, you should be fine.

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elminster wrote:It's rather odd how people perceive "hand made" to be the best possible quality production. Really the technology available would allow magnitudes more accuracy if done by machine. Granted, mass production machinery isn't geared towards absolute precision; though you can't just ignore the possibilities of what machines can do purely because of that.
I can't think of any case of production that has objective measures of quality which couldn't be better produced by machines. Note, there's aren't machines to do everything a human can in production, but they can be developed.

Stradovarius, perhaps?


In single-blind trials (a double-blind is obviously very hard to do as the violinist will easily be able to distinguish a strad from a modern violin purely based on the appearance and any attempt to age the outside would affect the sound making it an unfair test), Strads have been shown to not sound significantly better than any other high-quality violin. Additionally, there was a double-blind test which again found no significant difference.
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Postby suffer-cait » Tue May 22, 2012 10:52 am UTC

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PhoenixEnigma wrote:F/R/T: Why don't microwaves have volume controls?

I wish there was a way to shut off the buzzer on my dryer.

this. so many of these. it is so loud. and i firget and i fall asleep. it's like an attack.
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Re: Screechings of the Great Unwashed (Meander to the Morgue

Postby Giant Speck » Tue May 22, 2012 11:20 am UTC

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PhoenixEnigma wrote:F/R/T: Why don't microwaves have volume controls?

I wish there was a way to shut off the buzzer on my dryer.

this. so many of these. it is so loud. and i firget and i fall asleep. it's like an attack.

My microwave and dryer nag the shit out of me if I don't retrieve my food and clothes RIGHT A-FUCKING-WAY. The dryer eventually shuts off; the microwave continues beeping.
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Postby bigglesworth » Tue May 22, 2012 11:44 am UTC

eSOANEM wrote:In single-blind trials (a double-blind is obviously very hard to do as the violinist will easily be able to distinguish a strad from a modern violin purely based on the appearance and any attempt to age the outside would affect the sound making it an unfair test)
Perhaps a blindfold would enable this experiment to take place? Unless you mean the texture and shape, I suppose.
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Postby eSOANEM » Tue May 22, 2012 2:18 pm UTC

I've no idea how the texture/shape would vary between modern violins and strads but it seems likely that this was the way the did the one double-blind trial.
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Postby broken_escalator » Tue May 22, 2012 4:08 pm UTC

Everything has a volume control if you have a hammer and determination.

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Postby pseudoidiot » Tue May 22, 2012 4:18 pm UTC

That's more muting than volume control. Unless it's very precise hammering.
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Postby broken_escalator » Tue May 22, 2012 5:04 pm UTC

Mute is just another way of saying totalitarian volume control.

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broken_escalator wrote:Everything has a volume control if you have a h are Hammer and determination have edit privileges.

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Well played.

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Postby Enokh » Tue May 22, 2012 8:16 pm UTC

I about jumped with joy when I found out the washer and drying in the place I'm renting not only has a way to turn the buzzers off, but it also has full volume control. Loud enough to tell me it's done, not loud enough to wake my sleeping child by hurling it out of bed due to the shockwave.

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Postby bigglesworth » Tue May 22, 2012 9:46 pm UTC

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Postby Giant Speck » Wed May 23, 2012 12:43 am UTC

Enokh wrote:I about jumped with joy when I found out the washer and drying in the place I'm renting not only has a way to turn the buzzers off, but it also has full volume control. Loud enough to tell me it's done, not loud enough to wake my sleeping child by hurling it out of bed due to the shockwave.

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Postby poxic » Wed May 23, 2012 12:53 am UTC

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eSOANEM wrote:In single-blind trials (a double-blind is obviously very hard to do as the violinist will easily be able to distinguish a strad from a modern violin purely based on the appearance and any attempt to age the outside would affect the sound making it an unfair test)
Perhaps a blindfold would enable this experiment to take place? Unless you mean the texture and shape, I suppose.

IIRC, the fully double-blind test involved a blindfold and a cotton ball soaked with perfume (since a very old instrument can smell very different from a new one). There might have been one other part to it -- I was going to say "gloves" but that would make playing a tad tricky.
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Postby Giant Speck » Wed May 23, 2012 1:00 am UTC

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When I was little, my mom had this set of brightly-colored plastic cooking utensils. The set included two spatulas, a spoon, a slotted spoon, and this weird spoon/whisk hybrid thing. Many of the pieces of the set are long gone after years of use and damage, but the one thing that has (just barely) hung on is that the spoon whisk thing. It's broken and on its last leg, but my mom continues to use it when making stuff like pudding and gravy. She's mentioned on numerous occasions how she wishes she could find a replacement for it.

The spoon kind of looks like this spatula:

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It's not like an ordinary slotted spoon, which has a very rigid bowl shape with small slots. This slots on this spoon are very large and make the bowl very flexible.

I can't for the life of me figure out what this thing is even called. I've tried several different search queries, such as "spoon whisk" or "whisk spoon" or just simply browsing through pages and pages of "slotted spoons", hoping I'd find it.


I found it on Etsy!

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Postby Panonadin » Wed May 23, 2012 1:19 am UTC

I wanna see it. IMAGE IS BLOCKED FROM WORK!!
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Postby Giant Speck » Wed May 23, 2012 1:21 am UTC

You must work at an incredibly depressing workplace if they block Imgur.

Here's the Etsy page: http://www.etsy.com/listing/99851318/se ... stic-foley
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