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Re: Unfetched hashes and turtle-excluding devices

Postby addams » Mon Mar 10, 2014 9:26 am UTC

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It was not much.

2 to 3, maybe.
Still, !EarthQuake!

The little ones are, sort of, fun.
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Re: Unfetched hashes and turtle-excluding devices

Postby Djehutynakht » Mon Mar 10, 2014 2:06 pm UTC

What about turtle tracking devices?

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Re: Unfetched hashes and turtle-excluding devices

Postby You, sir, name? » Mon Mar 10, 2014 7:56 pm UTC

Steax wrote:Flat vs realism

Oh, a nice parallax story... WHAT THE FUCK-


These "scroll down"-designs are annoying as fuck when you don't have any means to scroll down other than the arrow keys.
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Re: Unfetched hashes and turtle-excluding devices

Postby poxic » Mon Mar 10, 2014 8:00 pm UTC

Or when the page doesn't like Firefox, or whatever it is that makes it effectively a .jpeg the size of my monitor. (I even enabled scripts.)
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Re: Unfetched hashes and turtle-excluding devices

Postby Ptolom » Mon Mar 10, 2014 10:35 pm UTC

I have never seen a parallax scrolling website that conveys any useful information whatsoever. It is best to ignore them and hope they go away soon. (though I did quite enjoy that one)

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Re: Unfetched hashes and turtle-excluding devices

Postby SurgicalSteel » Mon Mar 10, 2014 11:48 pm UTC

That was an incredibly obnoxious UI. I assumed it was put together by an animation student who didn't know much about web design throwing bits of HTML5 at the screen, not a "digital partner", whatever that might be.
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Re: Unfetched hashes and turtle-excluding devices

Postby The Scyphozoa » Tue Mar 11, 2014 12:04 am UTC

If it let you just click and drag the scroll bar it would have been okay...

But holding the down arrow actually made it go at a reasonable pace.
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Re: Unfetched hashes and turtle-excluding devices

Postby Steax » Tue Mar 11, 2014 2:58 am UTC

It was meant to tell a story, so I accepted the ostentatious transitions and effects. If any real website trying to convey information used that style I'd punch them in the face.

I enjoyed the fighting minigame, though.
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Re: Unfetched hashes and turtle-excluding devices

Postby SurgicalSteel » Tue Mar 11, 2014 3:56 am UTC

It wasn't the art style that annoyed me, it was how you had to scroll to make it play, and that the graphics filled my browser window. The first made it annoying to watch, and the second made it annoying to watch and look sloppy. I don't understand why they didn't just make a video, holding the down key didn't add any value to the presentation.
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Re: Unfetched hashes and turtle-excluding devices

Postby You, sir, name? » Tue Mar 11, 2014 6:26 pm UTC

Steax wrote:It was meant to tell a story, so I accepted the ostentatious transitions and effects. If any real website trying to convey information used that style I'd punch them in the face.

I enjoyed the fighting minigame, though.


I saw a real website trying to convey information using this type of presentation like yesterday. It also had malplaced old reddit memes strewn about the background for no reason.
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Re: Unfetched hashes and turtle-excluding devices

Postby Adacore » Wed Mar 12, 2014 5:43 am UTC

I just realized, when I use the punctuation keys on the right side of the keyboard, I almost universally use my right index finger (pivoting my hand around the little finger, which moves to the 'shift' key). The only exception is typing an apostrophe or backslash, for which I use my right little finger. Similarly, if I type a word containing a 'Q', I always use my left ring finger, not my little finger. I guess this is because one is supposed to use the left shift to type upper-case characters with one's right hand, and vice versa, but I almost always use the right shift regardless of which key I want.

Is this normal, or have I always been typing weirdly?

These symbols are all typed with my right index finger, but touch typing charts say they should be the little finger (or, for a couple, the ring finger): ( ) - _ = + [ { ] } ; : " , < . > / ? P
These symbols are typed with my left ring finger, but touch typing charts say they should be the little finger: q ! Q A Z
These symbols are typed with my left middle finger(?!): ` ~

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Re: Unfetched hashes and turtle-excluding devices

Postby Angua » Wed Mar 12, 2014 8:32 am UTC

Does the new facebook look have an inch of dead space on either side of the screen for anyone else? It's terrible.
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Re: Unfetched hashes and turtle-excluding devices

Postby Adacore » Wed Mar 12, 2014 9:01 am UTC

Angua wrote:Does the new facebook look have an inch of dead space on either side of the screen for anyone else? It's terrible.

Only on the left, for me. At least, using IE11 on this computer. I don't really mind the new layout.

EDIT: Oh wait, yeah. Both sides. I was counting the update/chat bit as the 'side', but you meant the main bit.

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Re: Unfetched hashes and turtle-excluding devices

Postby yurell » Wed Mar 12, 2014 9:08 am UTC

Angua wrote:Does the new facebook look have an inch of dead space on either side of the screen for anyone else? It's terrible.


Facebook has had a third of the screen being whitespace for me ever since I started using it (three years ago); maybe they just hate widescreen.
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Re: Unfetched hashes and turtle-excluding devices

Postby Adacore » Wed Mar 12, 2014 10:19 am UTC

yurell wrote:
Angua wrote:Does the new facebook look have an inch of dead space on either side of the screen for anyone else? It's terrible.


Facebook has had a third of the screen being whitespace for me ever since I started using it (three years ago); maybe they just hate widescreen.

A lot of web design people are of the opinion that using the full width of a widescreen display is bad practice, I believe. The vast majority of modern, well-designed websites I use have dead space at the sides of their main content. For example, the BBC, eBay, Cracked, Facebook, Google, New York Times, Guardian... basically every tab I have open right now except the fora and Amazon.

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Re: Unfetched hashes and turtle-excluding devices

Postby Giant Speck » Wed Mar 12, 2014 10:21 am UTC

I still don't have the new Facebook layout. I never even got the last update to the layout.

Oddly enough, my mother, who only has one friend on Facebook (me), has been getting these layouts almost immediately as they're announced.
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Re: Unfetched hashes and turtle-excluding devices

Postby Angua » Wed Mar 12, 2014 10:50 am UTC

It just happened spontaneously while I was at pool.
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Re: Unfetched hashes and turtle-excluding devices

Postby phlip » Wed Mar 12, 2014 11:01 am UTC

Adacore wrote:A lot of web design people are of the opinion that using the full width of a widescreen display is bad practice, I believe.

It's not so much "considered bad practice" as... well... it's easier to build a fancy layout with a fixed width, when you don't have to deal with all that inconvenient flexibility and different-sized-windows that users are so fond of attempting to view your site through. Whereas if you make the site fixed-width, then it's so much easier to make the layout excessively fancy, because you can lay everything out precisely and know it'll look the same for everyone, whether it's appropriate for their browser window size or not.

Suffice it to say, I'm not a fan.

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Re: Unfetched hashes and turtle-excluding devices

Postby bigglesworth » Wed Mar 12, 2014 11:17 am UTC

I actually approve of it (if it's done properly). I never need to read a line of text that goes all the way across my screen. That's just uncomfortable. Having a big screen is good for games, movies and using multiple windows on the same screen - not for presenting information.
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Re: Unfetched hashes and turtle-excluding devices

Postby Diemo » Wed Mar 12, 2014 1:57 pm UTC

Adacore wrote:I just realized, when I use the punctuation keys on the right side of the keyboard, I almost universally use my right index finger (pivoting my hand around the little finger, which moves to the 'shift' key). The only exception is typing an apostrophe or backslash, for which I use my right little finger. Similarly, if I type a word containing a 'Q', I always use my left ring finger, not my little finger. I guess this is because one is supposed to use the left shift to type upper-case characters with one's right hand, and vice versa, but I almost always use the right shift regardless of which key I want.

Is this normal, or have I always been typing weirdly?

These symbols are all typed with my right index finger, but touch typing charts say they should be the little finger (or, for a couple, the ring finger): ( ) - _ = + [ { ] } ; : " , < . > / ? P
These symbols are typed with my left ring finger, but touch typing charts say they should be the little finger: q ! Q A Z
These symbols are typed with my left middle finger(?!): ` ~


I, on the other hand, use the left shift key exclusivly, to the point where if I need to write something like £ or $ I will use the left shift key and hit the second key with the main finger of my right hand. No idea how normal this is though, and it does lead to my left little finger getting sore after a while of typing.
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Re: Unfetched hashes and turtle-excluding devices

Postby tms » Wed Mar 12, 2014 2:16 pm UTC

I use my middle fingers for anything on the backspace row, since they are the closest. Any other finger would mean I'd have to move my wrists, which happens if I go for the function keys.

My screen is 5:4 and yet my browser window is not using the full width. I like to use smallish fonts though. So I hardly notice narrow designs.
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Re: Unfetched hashes and turtle-excluding devices

Postby Angua » Wed Mar 12, 2014 4:47 pm UTC

I've solved my problem with facebook, with the combination of zooming in to get rid of the dead space, then using facebook purity to make the font the right size.

Just in case anyone else was annoyed as well.
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Re: Unfetched hashes and turtle-excluding devices

Postby 3rdtry » Wed Mar 12, 2014 7:55 pm UTC

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Re: Unfetched hashes and turtle-excluding devices

Postby Jplus » Wed Mar 12, 2014 10:30 pm UTC

bigglesworth wrote:I actually approve of it (if it's done properly). I never need to read a line of text that goes all the way across my screen. That's just uncomfortable. Having a big screen is good for games, movies and using multiple windows on the same screen - not for presenting information.

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Re: Unfetched hashes and turtle-excluding devices

Postby Ptolom » Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:59 am UTC

Tiling window managers are the way forward.

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Re: Unfetched hashes and turtle-excluding devices

Postby Steax » Fri Mar 14, 2014 10:01 am UTC

But since I put lots of tabs on one browser window, it just forces me to reorganize my window layout if I'm switching from one site to the next.
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Postby Dissident Love » Sat Mar 15, 2014 2:34 am UTC

On my extra wide monitor, I have two browsers side by side. I find it works awesome for 98% of well designed sites.
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Postby poxic » Sat Mar 15, 2014 3:17 am UTC

Collecting music recommendations this evening:

I have a jam tomorrow with friends I haven't played with for several months. I'd like to load my mental loops with new and interesting stuff before I go. Anyone have suggestions?

I play keys, and some of the things I consider interesting include: Bjork, Tune-Yards, Oumou Sangare, Tom Waits, Talking Heads/David Byrne, and I'll stop before I get too excited about who else should go in this list...


Edit to add: now this gets creative. Wow.
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Re: Unfetched hashes and turtle-excluding devices

Postby Giant Speck » Sat Mar 15, 2014 6:47 am UTC

I just found out that they're opening a Chipotle in Mobile soon.

It's a shame I'm in Biloxi, where there isn't one. And it's a shame there aren't any Chipotles in Hawaii, where I'm moving in a month.

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Postby elminster » Sat Mar 15, 2014 1:47 pm UTC

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Postby Dissident Love » Sat Mar 15, 2014 5:34 pm UTC

Shiny means fancy. I'm surprised my tablet isn't Teflon.
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Is this a thread where I am allowed to celebrate my 101st post? If this is the case: yay!

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Congratulations on having a palindromic postcount.
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Re: Unfetched hashes and turtle-excluding devices

Postby addams » Mon Mar 17, 2014 1:11 am UTC

Thank you for finding something nice to write.
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Postby Dissident Love » Mon Mar 17, 2014 1:32 am UTC

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Postby sockpoppet » Tue Mar 18, 2014 12:02 am UTC

@Dissident Love: Just wanted to tell you, nice avatar ;). Took me about 5 minutes to find the exact source, not sure if I should be proud of that...

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Postby poxic » Tue Mar 18, 2014 12:17 am UTC

It's likely the same issue as last time. Not much davean can do about spam attacks.
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Postby addams » Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:55 am UTC

Hell-o;
You people are like people to me.
I wonder; Will the Memory Hole eat my Post?

(shrug) If it doesn't, I am going to tell you exactly what I think.

I think about those Santa Ana winds.
The wind is blowing where I am, too.

This might frighten a child.
That Gangster Guy that was hanging around here,
Why was he here? (shrug) I am not sure.

He wanted to; I guess.
The sound of the wind frightened him.

He had lived in this flat. Swear!
He lived here before I did.

What a fucking mess.
I was a little frightened of The Dirt and The Smell.
Not the wind.

The windows are 1970 metal framed insulated windows that slide.
Very common on the West Coast of the US during the boom to provide hounding to The People.

This building got revamped. FIFTY years ago!
The windows don't close neat and easy, anymore.

The small gap acts like a wind instrument.
That Gangster was afraid of that sound.

I know how to make it Really Eerie.
I am so bad. (tee hee)

It is a long and lonesome sound.
When I am alone, I often adjust the windows.

The Wind today got my attention.
It is beautiful. I know. We can't see The Wind.

We can see and hear it, As it interacts with the world around us....
Well...Fuck...I see it.

The water looks like icing on some beaches.
It is coming across the Shallow curved beaches in low white waves.
It looks like icing. Pretty.

It howls through cracks in the Architecture.
The long grass on the hill sides wave in the wind.

Not gently like the grass of inland people.
But; Fierce waves of wind bending the grass to show its pale under leaf.

The hills look like waves of water.
I know they are grass.

I was wondering about the Santa Ana winds.
Are they still blowing? Very different wind.

The wind here if full of water.
It is so full of water, well...

Take my word on it.
There is water in this air.
Even if you can't see it.

Thesh is living though the Santa Ana winds.
I have done that. I know what it is like.

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On a Good Day, That is what it is like.

The Santa Ana winds end,
Many people are changed by The Wind.

Some know it.
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Prisoners of War and other people that have been through difficult experiences,
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People that have been through the Santa Ana winds,
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Re: Unfetched hashes and turtle-excluding devices

Postby SurgicalSteel » Tue Mar 18, 2014 4:14 am UTC

addams wrote:Santa Ana winds.
One of the things I miss about living in California is the Santa Anas. Those warm, summertime afternoon winds were very comforting and made playing outside in the evening quite wonderful.
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There's blood stains on his shirt (mayday)
They say that he's gone berserk."
--Flobots "Mayday"


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