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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby Suzaku » Thu Nov 07, 2013 1:14 am UTC

Tomlidich the second wrote:FUCK the exchange management shell.


that is all.

Hear hear!
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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby addams » Thu Nov 07, 2013 6:42 am UTC

Suzaku wrote:
Tomlidich the second wrote:FUCK the exchange management shell.


that is all.

Hear hear!

What is that?
Should I hate it, too?
Jumble wrote:Excellent news! Glad to hear you're doing so well and I second your love of cosmology and galaxy science. I feel for you on the confidence and exam performance issue. I'll PM you tomorrow.

Back to the thread topic. So, today has, in my humble opinion, been an unending pile of shite. In no particular order:
- My dog (stage right), who is now 8 years old but fit as a flea, has been diagnosed with a recent but serious heart murmur. It will cost >£500 in tests to find out why and how/if it can be treated. I'm very, very fond of that dog.
- I sold my MG sports car this morning that I've owned for 18 years (for not much money - thanks ebay). I wasn't using it enough and I couldn't afford the upkeep on a car that I don't really need. Still, I'm going to miss it.
- The family car has a big dent in the door where a motorcycle courier mis-judged overtaking and rode into it 3 weeks ago. He's contesting the claim (even though he was overtaking). Because the claim is being contested the insurance company are dragging their feet about fixing the damage. Now, thanks to the damaged door the car has failed its MOT so the family has no car. I'm going to have to shell out another £100 to hire a car next week so my wife can get to work.

I'm going to sleep in the belief that tomorrow can only be better...

Your dog has been on my mind.
How is your dog?

Late onset heart murmur?
Heart worms? I hope not.
That is fucking tragic.

Large breeds don't live very long, under the best of circumstances.
The Great Dane can be a Great Dog. They get about 8 years.

Mine had a heart attack at 8 years. It was like clockwork.
I sure loved that dog. He had a herd of chickens.

Every morning he went and got his chickens.
He moved them around during the day and put them to bed at night.

When he wasn't watching his chickens he was asleep.
What a great dog. I hope your dog is ok.

We do get fond of those lazy creatures.
EDIT:
I fell into a Rosemary Bush!
My whole 3D self!

Rosemary Bushes are poky!
I got rosemary in my hair, in my shoes, that stuff in in my clothes, it is poky!

Having a friend here would have been nice.
I had to crawl out of a rosemary bush, all by myself! Poor me!

A dog would have pushed me back in and that might have been nice, in some strange way.
No one laughed. No one knew it happened, with the notable exception of ME.

Rosemary smells nice.
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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby Tomlidich the second » Fri Nov 08, 2013 5:23 pm UTC

addams wrote:
Suzaku wrote:
Tomlidich the second wrote:FUCK the exchange management shell.


that is all.

Hear hear!

What is that?
Should I hate it, too?

yes, yes you should.

it was probably made by the same type of idiot who thinks all computers should be linux command line and if you can't use that, you are too stupid to use a computer. (ask me how i know this type of person)

half the commands in it are 20 characters or greater, all of them requiring absolute precision spelling and capitalization, in gibberish nonsense that ends up looking like this: Usage
Add-MailboxPermission -Identity 'CN=Jerry Orman,OU=Engineering,DC=cpandl,DC=com' -User 'CPANDL\boba' -AccessRights 'FullAccess'

almost anything except core functions are broken as hell, getting ANYTHING to work is an exercise in frustration, three cups of coffee and 15 browser tabs of research, and the documentation from microsofts end might as well have been written by a five year old in crayon, so you are going to depend mostly on internet fora and published articles from the few technical professionals crazy enough to work on this.


you need to have something seriously WRONG with your brain to work on this. luckily, im a tad insane and can usually get it working. but this is not something that should have been released to the general public. i don't even think it would qualify as beta, its the rough draft shit that should never have made it out of the development lab.


(/end rant)
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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby Zarq » Sat Nov 09, 2013 1:35 am UTC

That command is too readable for a UNIX command. The flags aren't even single letters.
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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby Menacing Spike » Sat Nov 09, 2013 8:57 am UTC

tar -eifheurhzurhzdjbsfhdbfhef source > dest

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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby PeteP » Sat Nov 09, 2013 1:38 pm UTC

There is only one thing I miss with UI instead of text commands. That you can just pipe the outputs in other commands.

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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby Sheikh al-Majaneen » Sat Nov 09, 2013 3:33 pm UTC

Menacing Spike wrote:tar -eifheurhzurhzdjbsfhdbfhef source > dest

You forgot verbose, and have to retype it in again.

Unfortunately the hzu options without the v runs "sudo rm -R /", so good luck getting back to the start.

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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby addams » Sat Nov 09, 2013 7:16 pm UTC

Tomlidich the second wrote:
addams wrote:
Suzaku wrote:
Tomlidich the second wrote:FUCK the exchange management shell.


that is all.

Hear hear!

What is that?
Should I hate it, too?

yes, yes you should.

it was probably made by the same type of idiot who thinks all computers should be linux command line and if you can't use that, you are too stupid to use a computer. (ask me how i know this type of person)

half the commands in it are 20 characters or greater, all of them requiring absolute precision spelling and capitalization, in gibberish nonsense that ends up looking like this: Usage
Add-MailboxPermission -Identity 'CN=Jerry Orman,OU=Engineering,DC=cpandl,DC=com' -User 'CPANDL\boba' -AccessRights 'FullAccess'

almost anything except core functions are broken as hell, getting ANYTHING to work is an exercise in frustration, three cups of coffee and 15 browser tabs of research, and the documentation from microsofts end might as well have been written by a five year old in crayon, so you are going to depend mostly on internet fora and published articles from the few technical professionals crazy enough to work on this.


you need to have something seriously WRONG with your brain to work on this. luckily, im a tad insane and can usually get it working. but this is not something that should have been released to the general public. i don't even think it would qualify as beta, its the rough draft shit that should never have made it out of the development lab.


(/end rant)

ok. How do you know that kind of person?

That is very technical stuff. Does that kind of person, really, think people like me should not use computers?
Or; Does that kind of person think, "People that program computers should speak computer Klingon?"

That difficult to understand language is like Klingon. right?

I really do need a life.
I can't speak computer Klingon and I never will.

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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby Suzaku » Sat Nov 09, 2013 11:17 pm UTC

Tomlidich the second wrote:
addams wrote:
Suzaku wrote:
Tomlidich the second wrote:FUCK the exchange management shell.


that is all.

Hear hear!

What is that?
Should I hate it, too?

yes, yes you should.

it was probably made by the same type of idiot who thinks all computers should be linux command line and if you can't use that, you are too stupid to use a computer. (ask me how i know this type of person)

half the commands in it are 20 characters or greater, all of them requiring absolute precision spelling and capitalization, in gibberish nonsense that ends up looking like this: Usage
Add-MailboxPermission -Identity 'CN=Jerry Orman,OU=Engineering,DC=cpandl,DC=com' -User 'CPANDL\boba' -AccessRights 'FullAccess'

almost anything except core functions are broken as hell, getting ANYTHING to work is an exercise in frustration, three cups of coffee and 15 browser tabs of research, and the documentation from microsofts end might as well have been written by a five year old in crayon, so you are going to depend mostly on internet fora and published articles from the few technical professionals crazy enough to work on this.


you need to have something seriously WRONG with your brain to work on this. luckily, im a tad insane and can usually get it working. but this is not something that should have been released to the general public. i don't even think it would qualify as beta, its the rough draft shit that should never have made it out of the development lab.


(/end rant)

Actually, my biggest beef isn't that (although I agree it's pretty awful), but the output of certain commands.

If I'm asking for a list, filtered or otherwise, of users, mail addresses, whatever, then there's a very good chance that I don't want to just read it, but put it into some kind of data processing tool (fancy term for an Excel spreadsheet :)). So getting all formatted in multi-line rows using tab characters so it looks nice if you print it, doesn't make my job easier, it makes it exponentially harder.

At least include a flag for machine-readable output, you plonkers!
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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby addams » Sat Nov 09, 2013 11:53 pm UTC

Suzaku wrote:
Tomlidich the second wrote:
addams wrote:
Suzaku wrote:
Tomlidich the second wrote:FUCK the exchange management shell.


that is all.

Hear hear!

What is that?
Should I hate it, too?

yes, yes you should.

it was probably made by the same type of idiot who thinks all computers should be linux command line and if you can't use that, you are too stupid to use a computer. (ask me how i know this type of person)

half the commands in it are 20 characters or greater, all of them requiring absolute precision spelling and capitalization, in gibberish nonsense that ends up looking like this: Usage
Add-MailboxPermission -Identity 'CN=Jerry Orman,OU=Engineering,DC=cpandl,DC=com' -User 'CPANDL\boba' -AccessRights 'FullAccess'

almost anything except core functions are broken as hell, getting ANYTHING to work is an exercise in frustration, three cups of coffee and 15 browser tabs of research, and the documentation from microsofts end might as well have been written by a five year old in crayon, so you are going to depend mostly on internet fora and published articles from the few technical professionals crazy enough to work on this.


you need to have something seriously WRONG with your brain to work on this. luckily, im a tad insane and can usually get it working. but this is not something that should have been released to the general public. i don't even think it would qualify as beta, its the rough draft shit that should never have made it out of the development lab.


(/end rant)

Actually, my biggest beef isn't that (although I agree it's pretty awful), but the output of certain commands.

If I'm asking for a list, filtered or otherwise, of users, mail addresses, whatever, then there's a very good chance that I don't want to just read it, but put it into some kind of data processing tool (fancy term for an Excel spreadsheet :)). So getting all formatted in multi-line rows using tab characters so it looks nice if you print it, doesn't make my job easier, it makes it exponentially harder.

At least include a flag for machine-readable output, you plonkers!

If it needs a flag, give it a flag.
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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby Menacing Spike » Sun Nov 10, 2013 7:08 am UTC

God hates flags.

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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby SecondTalon » Sun Nov 10, 2013 12:26 pm UTC

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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby Jumble » Sun Nov 10, 2013 1:54 pm UTC

addams wrote:
Spoiler:
Jumble wrote:- My dog (stage right), who is now 8 years old but fit as a flea, has been diagnosed with a recent but serious heart murmur. It will cost >£500 in tests to find out why and how/if it can be treated. I'm very, very fond of that dog.
- I sold my MG sports cat this morning that I've owned for 18 years (for not much money - thanks ebay). I wasn't using it enough and I couldn't afford the upkeep on a cat that I don't really need. Still, I'm going to miss it.
- The family cat has a big dent in the door where a motorcycle courier mis-judged overtaking and rode into it 3 weeks ago. He's contesting the claim (even though he was overtaking). Because the claim is being contested the insurance company are dragging their feet about fixing the damage. Now, thanks to the damaged door the cat has failed its MOT so the family has no cat. I'm going to have to shell out another £100 to hire a cat next week so my wife can get to work.

I'm going to sleep in the belief that tomorrow can only be better...

Your dog has been on my mind.
How is your dog?

Late onset heart murmur?
Heart worms? I hope not.
That is fucking tragic.

Large breeds don't live very long, under the best of circumstances.
The Great Dane can be a Great Dog. They get about 8 years.

Mine had a heart attack at 8 years. It was like clockwork.
I sure loved that dog. He had a herd of chickens.

Every morning he went and got his chickens.
He moved them around during the day and put them to bed at night.

When he wasn't watching his chickens he was asleep.
What a great dog. I hope your dog is ok.

We do get fond of those lazy creatures.
EDIT:
I fell into a Rosemary Bush!
My whole 3D self!

Rosemary Bushes are poky!
I got rosemary in my hair, in my shoes, that stuff in in my clothes, it is poky!

Having a friend here would have been nice.
I had to crawl out of a rosemary bush, all by myself! Poor me!

A dog would have pushed me back in and that might have been nice, in some strange way.
No one laughed. No one knew it happened, with the notable exception of ME.

Rosemary smells nice.


Thanks Addams,

The dog is fine so far. He's still fit as a flee, ran 10 miles with me last weekend then looked for a walk in the afternoon. So, I'm pretty confident when telling the vet that he's not seeming lethargic.

Cardiac specialist checked him and confirmed the heart murmur, so it's definitely there. Looks like we're facing >£600 in test (of which we'll have to pay a third) to find out what's wrong (blood tests, ECG and echo), in the hope that it's something we can treat. Good news is that the vet isn't ruling out it being congenital (and he's lived with it all his life with a problem, so no reason to worry now). The other front runner is infective pericarditis, which is irreversible but we can treat the infection before it gets worse.

Still, apparently he has a good strong heart beet and no coughing, etc. so finger crossed.

In other news did I really type cat every time I meant ca r or is mod madness running again? Oh, looks like it is.
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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby Angua » Sun Nov 10, 2013 3:19 pm UTC

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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby quetzal1234 » Sun Nov 10, 2013 4:27 pm UTC

Good luck Jumble. I hope your (very cute) dog is fine -- you sound more optimistic at least!
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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby Jumble » Sun Nov 10, 2013 6:06 pm UTC

Will do, I promise. It's good to come here when you've got problems,
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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby SlyReaper » Sun Nov 10, 2013 6:38 pm UTC

Good luck Jumble. Hope your furry beastie comes out of it well.
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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby addams » Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:01 pm UTC

Jumble wrote:
addams wrote:
Spoiler:
Jumble wrote:- My dog (stage right), who is now 8 years old but fit as a flea, has been diagnosed with a recent but serious heart murmur. It will cost >£500 in tests to find out why and how/if it can be treated. I'm very, very fond of that dog.
- I sold my MG sports cat this morning that I've owned for 18 years (for not much money - thanks ebay). I wasn't using it enough and I couldn't afford the upkeep on a cat that I don't really need. Still, I'm going to miss it.
- The family cat has a big dent in the door where a motorcycle courier mis-judged overtaking and rode into it 3 weeks ago. He's contesting the claim (even though he was overtaking). Because the claim is being contested the insurance company are dragging their feet about fixing the damage. Now, thanks to the damaged door the cat has failed its MOT so the family has no cat. I'm going to have to shell out another £100 to hire a cat next week so my wife can get to work.

I'm going to sleep in the belief that tomorrow can only be better...

Your dog has been on my mind.
How is your dog?

Late onset heart murmur?
Heart worms? I hope not.
That is fucking tragic.

Large breeds don't live very long, under the best of circumstances.
The Great Dane can be a Great Dog. They get about 8 years.

Mine had a heart attack at 8 years. It was like clockwork.
I sure loved that dog. He had a herd of chickens.

Every morning he went and got his chickens.
He moved them around during the day and put them to bed at night.

When he wasn't watching his chickens he was asleep.
What a great dog. I hope your dog is ok.

We do get fond of those lazy creatures.
EDIT:
I fell into a Rosemary Bush!
My whole 3D self!

Rosemary Bushes are poky!
I got rosemary in my hair, in my shoes, that stuff in in my clothes, it is poky!

Having a friend here would have been nice.
I had to crawl out of a rosemary bush, all by myself! Poor me!

A dog would have pushed me back in and that might have been nice, in some strange way.
No one laughed. No one knew it happened, with the notable exception of ME.

Rosemary smells nice.


Thanks Addams,

The dog is fine so far. He's still fit as a flee, ran 10 miles with me last weekend then looked for a walk in the afternoon. So, I'm pretty confident when telling the vet that he's not seeming lethargic.

Cardiac specialist checked him and confirmed the heart murmur, so it's definitely there. Looks like we're facing >£600 in test (of which we'll have to pay a third) to find out what's wrong (blood tests, ECG and echo), in the hope that it's something we can treat. Good news is that the vet isn't ruling out it being congenital (and he's lived with it all his life with a problem, so no reason to worry now). The other front runner is infective pericarditis, which is irreversible but we can treat the infection before it gets worse.

Still, apparently he has a good strong heart beet and no coughing, etc. so finger crossed.

In other news did I really type cat every time I meant ca r or is mod madness running again? Oh, looks like it is.

Kiss him for us.

Back to our regularly scheduled 'pity party'.
What God hates me? Why? What did I do? Or; Not do?

ech. The list is half a dozen items long.
No sense beating a dead horse. I can not undo. Nor; Do.

So; Look at the symptoms and do something about that.
It is out of my hands. It is not up to me. I can do nothing, except observe.

What do I see? (crap)
A progression.
1. One Cat:One Cat box.
2. Two Cat:Two Cat box.
3. Zero Cat: One Cat box.

That is busy Cat box, too.
Every Cat for what seems like miles in every direction has heard;
"Great Box at Toki's! Come On, Men!"

Zero Cat. Fucking Cats. I know Toki knows who I am.
Friday Night, too. Friday Night is a little Gangster Kitty.
Toki fell in love with Friday Night. So, weird.

I have to deal with a Cat box and I don't get to pet a Cat.
How do these things happen? It is the worse of all possible worlds.

The best of all possible worlds is Two Cats:Zero Cat box. see?
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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby Tomlidich the second » Wed Nov 13, 2013 12:19 am UTC

Suzaku wrote:Actually, my biggest beef isn't that (although I agree it's pretty awful), but the output of certain commands.

If I'm asking for a list, filtered or otherwise, of users, mail addresses, whatever, then there's a very good chance that I don't want to just read it, but put it into some kind of data processing tool (fancy term for an Excel spreadsheet :)). So getting all formatted in multi-line rows using tab characters so it looks nice if you print it, doesn't make my job easier, it makes it exponentially harder.

At least include a flag for machine-readable output, you plonkers!


you have no idea how many times this has fucked up a document i was creating.

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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby Carlington » Wed Nov 13, 2013 8:50 am UTC

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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby broken_escalator » Wed Nov 13, 2013 2:15 pm UTC

Steam should be having their november harvest/december holiday sales soon. And there is always cyber-monday for non-steam sales, too.

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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby addams » Wed Nov 13, 2013 4:59 pm UTC

Pant and Random thought all in One?

I talked to a man that is selling a little old sports car.
We talked about Marketing.

We stood back and looked at that automobile.
It is no bigger than a minute.

The Roads are Full of Huge moving Hunks of Metal.
That little car is a Death Trap!

"Market it to the Step-Fathers of Teen-age Girls."

The Girls are going to Love this car!
The Step-Father will be The Hero of the Story.


What fun. It is like a Reservation Car.
They will be fine as long as they don't leave town.

What bunch of Girls has a car and stays inside Town??
I think what the Step-Father does has a name.
It is Negligent Homocide. Maybe; Negligent Manslaughter.

That is not very generous of me. It is a Road Worthy automobile.
Not for a child.

We laughed about why he is selling it.
We, both know, how little that car is.

so funny. It is one of those cars that a person must climb down into.
It is on the road with the common SUV; A vehicle that needs a ladder for the human operators.

We laughed about what kind of a noise it would make inside the Truck when it starts dragging the little car.
How far would the truck go, before someone says, "What the Hell is that noise, Jethro?"

Sounds like we are dragging something. Stop up here; In that open spot and I will check.

Hey! Jethro! It looks like a car!

What kind of Car!

It looks like Larry's car.
He is going to need a new Truck.
Larry sold that car. Who is in it?

We laughed about it for a while.
It is funny. Who has the right to pull you over and ask about the little car you are dragging?
How long would you drag one before you thought, "Maybe that sound should have stopped, when we hit the main road."

People live thought that shit.
That shit does not happen very often.

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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby JudeMorrigan » Wed Nov 13, 2013 5:14 pm UTC

The apparent number of people out there who apparently feel that blackface is ok so long as the person wearing it isn't *actively* trying to offend boggles my mind. An actual quote I just read: "The quickest way to end racism is to stop talking about it". (By someone who was offended that someone found a costume that involved blackface to have been in poor taste.)

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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby Tomlidich the second » Wed Nov 13, 2013 6:47 pm UTC

Carlington wrote:Portal 2 was 75% off and I missed it. Humph.

even if its not specifically on sale, its probably pretty cheap by now, yes?

its a good enough game, it is worth any amount of cash in my opinion. almost endless enjoyment opportunity.
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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby Yoshisummons » Wed Nov 13, 2013 6:54 pm UTC

JudeMorrigan wrote:There are times humanity *really* tries to test my faith in it.

Here's something to cheer you up and Addams I for some reason deep down want to think you wrote that for the sole purpose of abusing the car -> cat filter, and I want to thank you for it :D .
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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby addams » Thu Nov 14, 2013 6:25 am UTC

JudeMorrigan wrote:The apparent number of people out there who apparently feel that blackface is ok so long as the person wearing it isn't *actively* trying to offend boggles my mind. An actual quote I just read: "The quickest way to end racism is to stop talking about it". (By someone who was offended that someone found a costume that involved blackface to have been in poor taste.)

Whiskey. Tango. Foxtrot.

There are times humanity *really* tries to test my faith in it.

Hi.
I want to type about it.

I know it was wrong and very very wrong at one time.
It was a way of dehumanizing people.

White people would put on Black Face and behave in ways that were embarrassing at best and criminal commonly.
Sometimes Black Face was used because no one would believe a white person could sing like that. People are horrible.

Today, why would any one wear Black Face.
It has Got to mean something different, today.

Did you ask? Why? Why would a person wear Black Face?
Because it is part of our common history and it can't hurt us, now?

It did hurt real people, at one time.
Does it hurt people, now?

I see both white and black people behaving in ways that do not leave much room for pride.
Both. Sometimes I see behavior that I know was brought to us from the undereducated classes and wonder;
Why? Why pretend to not be able to speak clearly?
Why? Why pretend to not be able to walk well?
Why? Why pretend to not be able to have clothes that fit?
Why?

Black Face. I don't want to forget.
It has been a long time.

We can remember and use the medium to remember with dignity and humor.
Can't we? If we censor ourselves and each other without thinking about it,
We might be nearly as bad as the originals.

What were those people doing in Black Face?
Did you talk to them? Were they white or black?

I don't worry about Black Face.
I am glad you do. It is important to remember.

Lynching gear is still very much a very off putting bunch of gear.
We have come a long way. It is not so much that we still have a long way to go.
It is so important to not go back to where we were. Not even someplace sideways from there.

Not there. I hope we never go back there.
Things are so much better in many places that people forget why we ever wanted to elevate ourselves and each other.

We do not need to be pushed to be better.
Many want to be better.

Those that want to push us back down in the dark and the muck and mire, get a lot of attention.
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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby Carlington » Thu Nov 14, 2013 10:11 am UTC

Tomlidich the second wrote:
Carlington wrote:Portal 2 was 75% off and I missed it. Humph.

even if its not specifically on sale, its probably pretty cheap by now, yes?

its a good enough game, it is worth any amount of cash in my opinion. almost endless enjoyment opportunity.

It's $20 when not on sale, which is kinda cheap, but not super-cheap. There's not a Linux port fornit yet, so I wouldn't really buy it unless it was on sale.
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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby WilliamTheConqueror » Thu Nov 14, 2013 4:23 pm UTC

I absolutely hate how self-conscious and paranoid I am, woo boy. It's to the point now where if I'm even walking in the hallway at school, I get panicky. (I'm panicky now, for christ's sake.) It doesn't help that my self esteem is incredibly low. (I'm surprised people don't trip on it. Hah.) :/
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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby PolakoVoador » Thu Nov 14, 2013 5:37 pm UTC

PeteP wrote:There is only one thing I miss with UI instead of text commands. That you can just pipe the outputs in other commands.


With some smart piping of xargs, sed and grep you can magic your way through a lot of problems.

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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby addams » Thu Nov 14, 2013 5:41 pm UTC

WilliamTheConqueror wrote:I absolutely hate how self-conscious and paranoid I am, woo boy. It's to the point now where if I'm even walking in the hallway at school, I get panicky. (I'm panicky now, for christ's sake.) It doesn't help that my self esteem is incredibly low. (I'm surprised people don't trip on it. Hah.) :/

Other people may be able to step over it.
It seems you are tripping on it.

I am sorry. I have been known to trip on shadows.
Maybe, that was your self-esteem. Maybe, it was mine.

Useless advice and reason I think it might work.

Spoiler:
Take a deep breath. Dang. The truth?
No one cares. More panicky?

Head for the secretaries office!
I would go to the secretary, when I was in an environment that had one.
That usually helped.

One secretary, one of the best, had a chair that sat on the hinge side of her door.
I would sit there. No one except Barbara could see me.

When I felt a little better or Barbara told me, "You have to be there in ten minutes."
I would get up and go face the Big Bad World, again.

It worked for me. If you have a secretary, try it.
What harm can it do? If you don't like her, leave.
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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby WilliamTheConqueror » Thu Nov 14, 2013 6:24 pm UTC

That seems like a really good idea, actually. Thank you :)
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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby addams » Thu Nov 14, 2013 7:03 pm UTC

WilliamTheConqueror wrote:That seems like a really good idea, actually. Thank you :)

I am crossing my fingers. I hope she is nice.
oops. She might be a he.
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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby Tomlidich the second » Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:25 am UTC

WilliamTheConqueror wrote:I absolutely hate how self-conscious and paranoid I am, woo boy. It's to the point now where if I'm even walking in the hallway at school, I get panicky. (I'm panicky now, for christ's sake.) It doesn't help that my self esteem is incredibly low. (I'm surprised people don't trip on it. Hah.) :/


i was this exact way in school. absolutely destroyed most shots at social contact i had.

it wasn't until after i graduated, and got a pretty good kick in the pants from forum members who still float around these parts today that i realized, everyone feels that way. everyone of us. some of us hide it better than others.

the other thing is, most people in school are so worried about their own lives, they don't really have time to judge you. it might feel right now that you have hundreds of eyes on you, waiting for the slightest mistake, but people are more forgiving than that in most cases. they were with me, and i was and still am, kind of a naive shithead.

so just breathe, relax, and smile a little, because everyone is a little worried about themselves, and its ok to sometimes wonder about it. just don't let it get you down, and try to remember the stuff that makes you special. 21 years on this planet, and i have yet to meet anyone that wasn't special in some way.
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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby addams » Fri Nov 15, 2013 1:16 am UTC

Tomlidich the second wrote:
WilliamTheConqueror wrote:I absolutely hate how self-conscious and paranoid I am, woo boy. It's to the point now where if I'm even walking in the hallway at school, I get panicky. (I'm panicky now, for christ's sake.) It doesn't help that my self esteem is incredibly low. (I'm surprised people don't trip on it. Hah.) :/


i was this exact way in school. absolutely destroyed most shots at social contact i had.

it wasn't until after i graduated, and got a pretty good kick in the pants from forum members who still float around these parts today that i realized, everyone feels that way. everyone of us. some of us hide it better than others.

the other thing is, most people in school are so worried about their own lives, they don't really have time to judge you. it might feel right now that you have hundreds of eyes on you, waiting for the slightest mistake, but people are more forgiving than that in most cases. they were with me, and i was and still am, kind of a naive shithead.

so just breathe, relax, and smile a little, because everyone is a little worried about themselves, and its ok to sometimes wonder about it. just don't let it get you down, and try to remember the stuff that makes you special. 21 years on this planet, and i have yet to meet anyone that wasn't special in some way.

Special?
You left the door open on that one; And, We are not supposed to walk in?

Special? Yes. Everyone is Special.
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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby UniqueScreenname » Fri Nov 15, 2013 3:26 am UTC

But if uniqueness doesn't exist, who am I?
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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby addams » Fri Nov 15, 2013 3:41 am UTC

UniqueScreenname wrote:But if uniqueness doesn't exist, who am I?

oh. You may have misunderstood the man.
You are unique and so is everyone else.

'Uniqueness is so common that there is nothing unique about it.'
He was a biologist. He was also human.

He looked at acorns and bacteria and trees and wheat fields and himself and other humans.
He noticed how alike wheat and trees and deer are to one another. And, how each is unique in all the world.

You are unique, Unique.
Don't worry. You are the only you your people have.
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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby brenok » Fri Nov 15, 2013 4:09 am UTC

UniqueScreenname wrote:But if uniqueness doesn't exist, who am I?

You are, of course, a simple manifestation of the potential of consciousness in the Universe.

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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby Negrebskoh » Fri Nov 15, 2013 10:28 am UTC

UniqueScreenname wrote:But if uniqueness doesn't exist, who am I?

But uniqueness does exist. It's just a very common quality. So, essentially, meta-uniqueness does not exist, since object X's uniqueness is not unique.

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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby WilliamTheConqueror » Fri Nov 15, 2013 2:01 pm UTC

Tomlidich the second wrote:
WilliamTheConqueror wrote:I absolutely hate how self-conscious and paranoid I am, woo boy. It's to the point now where if I'm even walking in the hallway at school, I get panicky. (I'm panicky now, for christ's sake.) It doesn't help that my self esteem is incredibly low. (I'm surprised people don't trip on it. Hah.) :/


i was this exact way in school. absolutely destroyed most shots at social contact i had.

it wasn't until after i graduated, and got a pretty good kick in the pants from forum members who still float around these parts today that i realized, everyone feels that way. everyone of us. some of us hide it better than others.

the other thing is, most people in school are so worried about their own lives, they don't really have time to judge you. it might feel right now that you have hundreds of eyes on you, waiting for the slightest mistake, but people are more forgiving than that in most cases. they were with me, and i was and still am, kind of a naive shithead.

so just breathe, relax, and smile a little, because everyone is a little worried about themselves, and its ok to sometimes wonder about it. just don't let it get you down, and try to remember the stuff that makes you special. 21 years on this planet, and i have yet to meet anyone that wasn't special in some way.


oh jeez, I almost started crying when I read this. (Good crying, though)

Seriously, thanks so much for like, being so awesome and supportive guys. who knew strangers on the internet were so good at cheering me up
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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby Tomlidich the second » Fri Nov 15, 2013 4:41 pm UTC

http://xkcd.com/309/

"i think our main problem is our unclear definition of unique"

"THAT IS NOT YOUR MAIN PROBLEM!"

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