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Re: ANGRY NATTERINGS

Postby poxic » Thu Oct 13, 2016 11:05 pm UTC

Most condos around here, I think, have either electric baseboard heat (like my place) or a central boiler for distributed hot water heat. No machinery that I need to bleed or otherwise maim.
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Re: ANGRY NATTERINGS

Postby Isaac Hill » Fri Oct 14, 2016 1:55 am UTC

Do condos usually have a maintenance person/department to handle stuff like this, paid for by condo fees?


Bleeding a furnace is basically how you prime its fuel pump when it's not receiving enough oil to keep working correctly.

First, you turn the thermostat up, and the furnace off.

Then, you open the bleeder valve. This is not the large valve seen in the picture, with the knob that can be turned by hand. This is a smaller knob, hidden from view behind the grey fuel pump, just about above the dent in the middle of the white tray. This must be turned with a wrench.

Fun fact: there's only enough space to turn the wrench a small part of a turn before needing to reposition it. The distance from the valve to the side of the furnace is only slightly greater than the length of a common wrench, making this quite difficult. I bought a ratchet-wrench today to make this easier.

Third, turn the furnace on. Fuel will begin sputtering out of the bleeder valve.

The sputter will become a steady stream. When this happens, close the bleeder valve. Closing the valve while it's outputting oil makes maneuvering the wrench really annoying. The furnace should then work. Mine does, but only for a day or so.

So far, I've been careful enough that I haven't spilled any oil on the floor. I've caught it all in either an empty bottle, bucket, or the white tray. However, it takes a while for the oil smell to dissipate from those things, my hands, and my wrench, even after washing them. I bought another, smaller funnel, with a lip that sticks out a couple inches, and a tube that fits over the end, which I'll feed into an old orange juice jug. Hopefully, that'll make it easier to bleed it longer if I have to again.

With a decent setup, you only have to bleed the furnace if the oil tank runs out of oil. Then, you fill the tank and bleed the furnace.


When my old oil furnace was on its way out, I e-mailed the city to see if gas was an option in my neightborhood. They e-mailed back that it was. When I called to set up an appointment they told me it wasn't. I explained what I was e-mailed, and they double checked, but, no. So, I had to go with another oil furnace.
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Re: ANGRY NATTERINGS

Postby poxic » Fri Oct 14, 2016 2:27 am UTC

Sounds like exactly why I'm happy to have a strata council to handle all that. Condo owners are responsible for everything inside their suite, and their monthly fees pay for strata to hire professionals to do everything else.

There are annoyances - I can paint/change/fix my anything, with some caveats. No changing the external appearance without permission (e.g. blinds). No structural changes, including type of flooring, without permission. (There are rules to prevent me from installing tile over concrete and then wearing big clompy shoes all day. Downstairs neighbours and such.) Anything that will make noise - sawing, banging - has to be approved and stay within certain hours of the day if it's going to take a while. I can't hang laundry on my balcony because it's Unsightly and Brings Down the Property Value or something.

Still, a few hundred per month to never have to look at a boiler, furnace, or gas connection. Never have to fix a roof or an external door. (Pay for it, yes, in concert with the other residents. I've paid a total of around $9500 in special fees in the last 18 years, though there will probably be another $10k coming in the next few.)
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Re: ANGRY NATTERINGS

Postby Sableagle » Fri Oct 14, 2016 4:40 pm UTC

Spoiler:
Isaac Hill wrote:Do condos usually have a maintenance person/department to handle stuff like this, paid for by condo fees?


Bleeding a furnace is basically how you prime its fuel pump when it's not receiving enough oil to keep working correctly.

First, you turn the thermostat up, and the furnace off.

Then, you open the bleeder valve. This is not the large valve seen in the picture, with the knob that can be turned by hand. This is a smaller knob, hidden from view behind the grey fuel pump, just about above the dent in the middle of the white tray. This must be turned with a wrench.

Fun fact: there's only enough space to turn the wrench a small part of a turn before needing to reposition it. The distance from the valve to the side of the furnace is only slightly greater than the length of a common wrench, making this quite difficult. I bought a ratchet-wrench today to make this easier.

Third, turn the furnace on. Fuel will begin sputtering out of the bleeder valve.

The sputter will become a steady stream. When this happens, close the bleeder valve. Closing the valve while it's outputting oil makes maneuvering the wrench really annoying. The furnace should then work. Mine does, but only for a day or so.

So far, I've been careful enough that I haven't spilled any oil on the floor. I've caught it all in either an empty bottle, bucket, or the white tray. However, it takes a while for the oil smell to dissipate from those things, my hands, and my wrench, even after washing them. I bought another, smaller funnel, with a lip that sticks out a couple inches, and a tube that fits over the end, which I'll feed into an old orange juice jug. Hopefully, that'll make it easier to bleed it longer if I have to again.

With a decent setup, you only have to bleed the furnace if the oil tank runs out of oil. Then, you fill the tank and bleed the furnace.


When my old oil furnace was on its way out, I e-mailed the city to see if gas was an option in my neightborhood. They e-mailed back that it was. When I called to set up an appointment they told me it wasn't. I explained what I was e-mailed, and they double checked, but, no. So, I had to go with another oil furnace.
So you're letting fuel flow freely from supply tank to bottle in the hope it'll take the air bubbles with it, sort of like topping up the radiators and then opening the top of one to let the air out.

Presumably, your problem is that air is getting in somewhere. "Airtight" is tighter than "watertight" and presumably also tighter than "oiltight," so there could be a tiny flaw in a seal that allows the flow of oil to draw air in without allowing static oil pressure to drive oil out.

How to find such a thing, I couldn't say, but if it is big enough to let oil out you may be able to trace it that way and if it isn't you may be able to fix it by the rather ugly approach of painting epoxy resin over all the joints in your fuel feed line. Anyone required to do work on it would be displeased by this, but hey, it may work.
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Re: ANGRY NATTERINGS

Postby addams » Tue Oct 18, 2016 12:54 pm UTC

Giant Speck wrote:I hit a speed bump going downhill on my bicycle on a poorly lit street at twenty miles per hour and fractured my manubrium and developed a pneumothorax in my left lung.

Poor you, Speck.

You have been on my mind.
We are lucky you still post.

That is such a serious injury.
What did your helmet look like?

It has been two weeks and two days.
Has the acute phase let up for you?

Questions:
Spoiler:
Has the bruising faded?
To what colors?

What happened, Speck?
How did you get to the hospital?

Did you pick your bike up and ride?
How far? Were you numb? In shock?

How in the world did you fall??

Before airbags, steering wheels broke sternums.
Did a part of your bike hit your chest? What part?

How about your bike?
Is it bent up? How bad?


Are you going to be your same self?
Are you going to frame your helmet?
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Re: ANGRY NATTERINGS

Postby Giant Speck » Wed Oct 19, 2016 2:06 pm UTC

1. What did your helmet look like?

My helmet is fine. I didn't hit my head when I fell.

2. Has the acute phase let up for you?

It's fine. I can cough now without worrying about my chest exploding. My breathing is back to normal, too.

Spoiler:
3. Has the bruising faded?

The bruising is almost completely faded, yes.

4. To what colors?

It had more bruising on my left side than I did on my chest. The bruising on my side turned dark purple before finally fading. The bruising on my chest turned a weird yellowish green color. It's mostly gone now.

5. What happened, Speck?

I hit a poorly lit speed bump going downhill at night. I overcorrected and squeezed my front brakes too hard and I flipped over the handlebars and tumbled a couple times, landing first on my chest and then on my left shoulder blade.

6. How did you get to the hospital?

Luckily, there was a cop car parked at the bottom of the hill and the two cops occupying the vehicle performed basic first aid before calling the paramedics. Fortunately, I was only about two miles from the Army hospital and the paramedics took me by ambulance.

7. Did you pick your bike up and ride?

No, but the paramedics were nice enough to strap my bicycle into the ambulance beside me. When we got to the hospital, the hospital staff stored the bicycle in a storage room so that I could retrieve it after getting discharged from the hospital.

8. How far? Were you numb? In shock?

I was in enough shock to only think that I had winded myself. I did not realize the extent of my injuries until I got to the hospital and they tried to take x-rays and I realized how difficult and painful it was to move. I didn't even feel the sternum fracture until I had been at the hospital for a couple hours, but that might have been less from the shock and more from the morphine they gave me.

9. How in the world did you fall??

See the answer to Question 5.

10. Did a part of your bike hit your chest? What part?

Thankfully, I didn't come into much contact with the bicycle. The bicycle "landed" a few feet from me.

11. How about your bike? Is it bent up? How bad?

The bicycle required new pedals, new brakes, new shifter cables, a new chainring, and a new chain. In total, I had to spend $350 to repair the bicycle.

12. Are you going to be your same self?

I think I'll be good. I've already begun riding again, albeit very carefully. I just can't move my arms over my head for extended periods of time, lift anything heavier than ten pounds, or reach both of my arms behind my back at the same time. Also, sleeping kind of hurts right now. I wake up each morning with really tight muscles in my chest, shoulder, and neck. I'm thinking about going back to the hospital and asking to be prescribed some muscle relaxers to help me sleep.

13. Are you going to frame your helmet?

Nah. My helmet is fine.
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Re: ANGRY NATTERINGS

Postby Giant Speck » Wed Oct 19, 2016 2:08 pm UTC

It just really sucks because I had just recovered from a rolled ankle a couple of months ago and here I go hurting myself again.

My supervisor offered to let me take a couple of weeks of leave in December to go home and see my family, but my parents don't want me coming home in the winter, so I'm going to have to wait until I leave Hawaii in May to see them again.
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Re: ANGRY NATTERINGS

Postby Zohar » Wed Oct 19, 2016 2:18 pm UTC

That sucks, I'm sorry. Glad to hear you're feeling a bit better and getting back to your normal routine.

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Re: ANGRY NATTERINGS

Postby Giant Speck » Wed Oct 19, 2016 2:34 pm UTC

My hometown is in Iowa. Every time I have come home during the winter months, there has either been a really bad snow storm or a really bad ice storm, which really limits any kind of travel outside the house. It gets really boring really fast.
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Re: ANGRY NATTERINGS

Postby Yakk » Wed Oct 19, 2016 3:22 pm UTC

Me, I'd get a new helmet. They can get damaged without seeming useless and no longer be as effective.
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Re: ANGRY NATTERINGS

Postby addams » Fri Oct 21, 2016 5:03 am UTC

Thank you for the answers, Speck.
At less than three weeks you are doing Great!

(shakes head)
You 'Youngins'!
So, Resilient!

Blood is interesting stuff.
Spoiler:
To what colors?

I had more bruising on my left side than I did on my chest. The bruising on my side turned dark purple before finally fading. The bruising on my chest turned a weird yellowish green color. It's mostly gone now.

The striking colors of a bruise are caused by the phagocytosis and sequential degradation of hemoglobin to biliverdin to bilirubin to hemosiderin, with hemoglobin itself producing a red-blue color, biliverdin producing a green color, bilirubin producing a yellow color, and hemosiderin producing a golden-brown color.[9] As these products are cleared from the area, the bruise disappears. Often the underlying tissue damage has been repaired long before this process is complete.
I'm with Yakk.
I think you need a new helmet, too.
My bike instructor nagged about helmets.

You have special weather related talents?

That's interesting;
Some people do.

How can you use your power for good?

well, Speck; You get the better
end of the weather deal.

What if you worked in Iowa and were
missing a trip 'Home' to the islands?

If that happened you would be living Angua's life.
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Re: ANGRY NATTERINGS

Postby addams » Mon Oct 24, 2016 7:04 pm UTC

In the spirit of the Thread.
I Offer a Rambling Rant.

The Haiti Relief Effort?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/news/hait ... f-efforts/

The U.S. is taking rice.
That's nice.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/th ... story.html
Food, clean water and construction materials have begun pouring into the southwestern peninsula, though many people there still say they’ve seen little or no aid.
I have my opinions.

I see a Rescue Mission.
The US offers a Relief Mission.
Spoiler:
"The people will take the rice and be glad to get it."

They named the Thing Wrong.

It is not a short term Relief Effort.
It is a Rescue Mission, undone.

Some may not want to leave the land of their births.
Compassionate Professionals know how to ask.

Have the Nordic States sent in a Hospital Ship, yet?
Spoiler:
Is that something I saw in Fiction? and; I believed it!
The News said, "The Nordic Nations with the blessings and support of the EU, have Hospital Ships."

Hatiti.. 2014; Post EarthQuake/Pre-Mathew.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-28735367
Great Story!

Who are The Good Guys?
Canadians! They Are!
The Croix-des-Bouquets prison was built in 2012 with reconstruction money donated by Canada.
Haiti was devastated by an earthquake in 2010.
Really?
They needed a Prison?

Were those light hearted days?
The days before Mathew?

Now? Page One is a post-Mathew jail break.
Reports say overpopulated Haitian prisons are common, and some people spend years in pre-trial detention.


Warning: Skip the Photo!
Gruesome Photo!
Read the words, if you can.
http://www.voanews.com/a/inmates-escape ... 62625.html
Here are the words.
Spoiler:
Scores of inmates from a Haitian prison escaped Saturday after killing an officer and stealing weapons, authorities said.

Judge Henry Claude Louis-Jean said others were injured in the prison break that occurred in Arcahaie, a coastal town about 50 kilometers north of Haiti's capital.

With the support of U.N. peacekeepers, a manhunt was launched to track down the 174 escaped inmates. Police set up checkpoints along roads near the prison.

Eleven inmates have been caught, but police are still searching for the other escapees.

"One guard was killed during the incident. Three prisoners were wounded, including one who died as a consequence of his wounds," Camille Edouard Junior, Haiti's minister of justice, told Reuters.

According to police, the inmates attacked officers after they were released from an overcrowded holding pen to bathe.

Edouard Junior said a prisoner died after he hit his head falling off a wall during the attack.

The guard's body was still at the prison in the aftermath of the attack, reports said.

The U.S. Embassy in Haiti has warned American citizens to avoid the Arcahaie area.

Reports say overpopulated Haitian prisons are common, and some people spend years in pre-trial detention.

Officials did not say how many escapees from the Haiti prison had been convicted of serious crimes and how many were awaiting trial.

Authorities asked residents of the area to obey police instructions as the search intensifies.
For those keeping track.
This one had causalities.
One death on each side.

On page Two of Haiti News other people are mentioned.
As Percentages. As a whole.
750,000 separate individuals in need of urgent life-saving aid.

http://reliefweb.int/report/haiti/learn ... ne-matthew

Here is a link that tells stories of Haiti, today.
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation- ... 66557.html

The people in power.
The people that frame the conversation see a Relief Effort.
I see a Rescue Mission, that is not happening.

It is not happening, because no one else sees it.
I'm a protest meeting of One. (Rant-Rant)

Do Haitians that have lost-it-all want to leave Haiti?
Has anyone asked?

To me, it looks like a Fact.
Haiti is an uninhabitable island for 19% of her population.
If they are not rescued, many will die in preventable despair.

Yes. Yes.
I know.

The US is busy with her own over crowded prisons.
The US is busy with her own life threatening poverty.

We miss-placed $200,000.00 bombs in Yemen.
How Many? Only the US Navy knows for sure.

http://www.vox.com/world/2016/10/14/132 ... en-houthis
oh....Yemen was on purpose.

Syria was an accident.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/19/world ... .html?_r=0

The US bombed and killed the best trained and best educated officers of that nation.
The US says, "oops."

Haiti is not a War.
Haiti only has Refugees.
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Some of us see The Gutter.
Some of us see The Stars.
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Re: ANGRY NATTERINGS

Postby Sableagle » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:42 pm UTC

It is the function of government to spend the people's money for their benefit.

It is the duty of government to spend the people's money well.

It is the practice of government to spend the people's money on things they will loudly cheer at rallies.

Observe the reaction here, and read Maddy's lines here:
Spoiler:
Danny Archer: [reads off Maddy's computer] "In the ninety degree heat, Solomon Vandy drops to his knees, rattling the wire with his powerful hands."

[laughs lightly]

Maddy Bowen: What?

[Turns around aggressively, smiling an angry smile that turns into a grimace]

Maddy Bowen: Do you think I'm exploiting his grief?

Danny Archer: [Scoffs knowingly again]

Maddy Bowen: You're right. It's shit. It's like one of those infomercials with African kids with swollen bellies and flies in their eyes. See here I've got dead mothers, I've got severed limbs, but it's *nothing* new. Sure, it might make some people cry if they read it, maybe even write a check. But it's not going to be enough to make it stop! I'm sick of writing about victims but it's all I can fucking do! Because I need names, I need dates, I need pictures, I need bank accounts. Which is to say that I need someone to go *on* record. And if that's not you, and you're not really gonna help me, and we're not really gonna screw, then why don't you get the *fuck* out of my face, and let me do my work?

Danny Archer: [scoffs, grimacing] You know Solomon thinks his son will be a doctor someday? Maybe his baby dies in that camp, maybe his daughter gets raped. Who knows, maybe both. Do you realize that that diamond is his only chance of getting his family out of here...

Maddy Bowen: [angrily]

You don't give a rat's ass...


Danny Archer:

Do you understand that?


Maddy Bowen:

About his family.

----------------------------------------------------------



[about her article about the war]

Solomon Vandy: So when people in your country read it, they will come help, yes?

Maddy Bowen: Probably not.


It's easy to find the helicopter scene from Blood Diamond and the convoy attack from Das Boot and the beach assault from Saving Private Ryan and for a long time it seemed I couldn't go a week without hearing a quote from Rambo or Platoon or Full Metal Jacket and "I love the smell of napalm in the morning" has been quoted and quoted and quoted ...

... but you can't stand on the deck of an aircraft carrier under a big "mission accomplished" banner 9 months after starting work in Haiti. You can't scatter the ashes of the last of the Vibrio cholerae in an undisclosed location at sea with full religious rites. Rebuilding the Frauenkirche in Dresden took 11 years. You don't plan to get reelected because of the success of an 11-year project.
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Re: ANGRY NATTERINGS

Postby addams » Wed Oct 26, 2016 4:26 am UTC

Blind Post.....
(rant-rant..the daily rant)

I have to read a book.
I have read many books.

Spoiler:
I'm having a small problem with the format.
My formal education was primarily in book form.

I belong to the cohort that would demand a 'hard copy'.
I was forced to learn to read from a computer screen.

I was required to take a class 'on-line'.
I was given 700 choices and no choice.

Now, I am spoiled by the computer screen.
I am able to zoom in and out with a touch.

The screen scrolls at my demand.
The screen is always light enough.

I can not move from one format to another format seamlessly??
I'm like a student, wasting time complaining instead of reading.

EDIT:(phew) I read it.
(ech) a few pages to go.
I'm giving it a 'thumbs up' for pithy sentences like,
"This can be made worse by our heath care system - which is really not a system,
but a mix of disconnected, and sometimes dysfunctional groups, plans, services and professionals."
It also gets a 'thumbs up for readability.

The name of the book is 'Handbook for Mortals'.
The subject matter is serious illness and death.
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Re: ANGRY NATTERINGS

Postby heuristically_alone » Wed Oct 26, 2016 4:50 am UTC

I struggle imagining addams being angry during the nattering.
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Re: ANGRY NATTERINGS

Postby Sableagle » Wed Oct 26, 2016 7:02 pm UTC

The difference between 57mm and 2.5 inches may not be immediately obvious to someone checking "which of two sizes" he needs. It becomes obvious later, when the new hardware doesn't quite line up with the holes left by the old hardware.

New screwholes I can do. That's easy enough: mark, drill ... yeah, that's it. Re-using the same screwholes I can do. That's even easier, as long as they still have thread. Drilling out existing screwholes, mixing wood filler, packing it into the holes, giving it 24 hours to set and then drilling new screw holes isn't something I fancy.

So ... brand new lock, with keys, never been installed, barely a fingerprint on the strike plate ... free to good home, and I need to find a replacement imperial unit ... or buy a new door and install the new lock in that.
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Re: ANGRY NATTERINGS

Postby Flumble » Wed Oct 26, 2016 7:46 pm UTC

addams wrote:I can not move from one format to another format seamlessly??
I'm like a student, wasting time complaining instead of reading.

Have you tried putting the book's title and year and the filter filetype:pdf into <your favourite search engine>?
It's surprising to learn how many books have a scanned version online. Not an e-book version, no, someone turning the pages of a hardcopy and placing them on the scanner.

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Re: ANGRY NATTERINGS

Postby Chen » Thu Oct 27, 2016 11:38 am UTC

Sableagle wrote:The difference between 57mm and 2.5 inches may not be immediately obvious to someone checking "which of two sizes" he needs. It becomes obvious later, when the new hardware doesn't quite line up with the holes left by the old hardware.

New screwholes I can do. That's easy enough: mark, drill ... yeah, that's it. Re-using the same screwholes I can do. That's even easier, as long as they still have thread. Drilling out existing screwholes, mixing wood filler, packing it into the holes, giving it 24 hours to set and then drilling new screw holes isn't something I fancy.

So ... brand new lock, with keys, never been installed, barely a fingerprint on the strike plate ... free to good home, and I need to find a replacement imperial unit ... or buy a new door and install the new lock in that.


Can't return the lock?

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Re: ANGRY NATTERINGS

Postby Yakk » Thu Oct 27, 2016 12:51 pm UTC

57 mm is 2.25 inches (well, 2.245 inches, but that is easy to force usually 0.2% tolerance is pretty darn close), not 2.5 inches. Difference is 10% between those two measures. Which is huuge.

2.5 inches is 63.5 mm.

Not sure how imperial/metric is the problem there.
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Postby Sableagle » Thu Oct 27, 2016 2:19 pm UTC

"There are two sizes of lock" turned out to be incorrect information.
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Postby eSOANEM » Fri Oct 28, 2016 10:53 am UTC

I had a similar issue when I bought new curtains for my room (because the ones in it weren't blackout); all the gliders for the rail were too tight to slide. Both looked about an inch in size so I'm guessing the rail was an inch and the new gliders were 2.5cm

Luckily I hadn't packed the old curtain away by the time I found out so I was able to cannibalise its gliders instead.
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Postby addams » Sat Oct 29, 2016 6:04 pm UTC

Sableagle wrote:It is the function of government to spend the people's money for their benefit.

It is the duty of government to spend the people's money well.

It is the practice of government to spend the people's money on things they will loudly cheer at rallies.

Observe the reaction here, and read Maddy's lines here:
Spoiler:
Danny Archer: [reads off Maddy's computer] "In the ninety degree heat, Solomon Vandy drops to his knees, rattling the wire with his powerful hands."

[laughs lightly]

Maddy Bowen: What?

[Turns around aggressively, smiling an angry smile that turns into a grimace]

Maddy Bowen: Do you think I'm exploiting his grief?

Danny Archer: [Scoffs knowingly again]

Maddy Bowen: You're right. It's shit. It's like one of those infomercials with African kids with swollen bellies and flies in their eyes. See here I've got dead mothers, I've got severed limbs, but it's *nothing* new. Sure, it might make some people cry if they read it, maybe even write a check. But it's not going to be enough to make it stop! I'm sick of writing about victims but it's all I can fucking do! Because I need names, I need dates, I need pictures, I need bank accounts. Which is to say that I need someone to go *on* record. And if that's not you, and you're not really gonna help me, and we're not really gonna screw, then why don't you get the *fuck* out of my face, and let me do my work?

Danny Archer: [scoffs, grimacing] You know Solomon thinks his son will be a doctor someday? Maybe his baby dies in that camp, maybe his daughter gets raped. Who knows, maybe both. Do you realize that that diamond is his only chance of getting his family out of here...

Maddy Bowen: [angrily]

You don't give a rat's ass...


Danny Archer:

Do you understand that?


Maddy Bowen:

About his family.

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[about her article about the war]

Solomon Vandy: So when people in your country read it, they will come help, yes?

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It's easy to find the helicopter scene from Blood Diamond and the convoy attack from Das Boot and the beach assault from Saving Private Ryan and for a long time it seemed I couldn't go a week without hearing a quote from Rambo or Platoon or Full Metal Jacket and "I love the smell of napalm in the morning" has been quoted and quoted and quoted ...

... but you can't stand on the deck of an aircraft carrier under a big "mission accomplished" banner 9 months after starting work in Haiti. You can't scatter the ashes of the last of the Vibrio cholerae in an undisclosed location at sea with full religious rites. Rebuilding the Frauenkirche in Dresden took 11 years. You don't plan to get reelected because of the success of an 11-year project.

Rebuilding the Frauenkirche in Dresden took 11 years. You don't plan to get reelected because of the success of an 11-year project.
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... from...? Protected from what...?
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It became a symbol of ...(?)
I don't know. I'm not a local.
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Comparisons?
How many people 'left' Dresden. 20%?

Contrast:
That was Then;
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Postby Sableagle » Sat Oct 29, 2016 7:08 pm UTC

Well, 47 years to get started, then 13 years and a bit to actually do it.

Franklin D. Roosevelt, Harry S. Truman, Dwight D. Eisenhower, John F. Kennedy, Lyndon B. Johnson, Richard M. Nixon, Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan and George Bush all held office while it was in ruins, William J. Clinton came and went while it was being rebuilt and George W. Bush was in his second term in office (and Iraq was in ruins) by the time it was finished.

It's part of a bigger project to reconstruct the entire Neumarkt ... still ongoing, 71 years and 8 months after the bombing. They have hourly webcam panoramas and the cranes are still there. Of course, that's rebuilding the historic city and Haiti's in a rather different situation with a different need for a different kind of "rebuilding." It's still a long-term project, not one that a single US president can assist from start to finish.
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Postby Sableagle » Sun Oct 30, 2016 4:29 pm UTC

Sableagle wrote:The difference between 57mm and 2.5 inches ...

33mm-tall 70mm metric lock successfully installed in hole left by 1.25"-tall (31.75mm) 3" (76.2mm) imperial lock, with the aid of a little chisel work and a lot of filing. That steel housing is reassuringly tough. Now next year we can leave the EU and switch back to imperial units, because it's important to be allowed to choose our units of measurement and not have some bunch of scientists tell us what units to use.
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Postby somitomi » Sun Oct 30, 2016 5:16 pm UTC

So today my grandmother bestowed upon me a number of vinyl records, thus doubling the size of my already existing (and admittedly very small) collection. This isn't exactly something, that would pormpt an angry nattering, since I do like getting records.
But this reminded me of Vinylengine, a site I dearly like and resent at the same time. I joined the forums there after buying a turntable, and was immediately welcomed to a nice community of friendly and helpful members. What amazed me particularly is that no noob question would go unanswered, no matter how many times it has been asked already. So it quickly became part of my internet daily routine, until it misteriously became unavailable. At least from my location, I managed to load it during a holiday abroad. At this point I had some idea about what was going on, because the site announcements thread had numerous posts about certain countries and IP-ranges being blocked due to "abuse" or "spam". Since most of these blocks appeared to be temporary, I relied on proxy services to visit the site occasionally, until things returned to normal in early August. My relief however was short-lived, the site became unavailable again in less than a month.
At this point, I decided I'd contact the site administrator in hopes of addressing the problem, but that turned out to be impossible. I repeat, you can't directly contact the site admin at all. This just added to my already existing frustration, so I visited the "venting thread" of the site to politely express the feeling, that
  • blocking entire IP-ranges isn't a particularly refined method of preventing "abuse" (whatever that would be)
  • a site admin should have at least one contact, where users can reach him directly
After which I was promptly banned, because: "The website is no longer available in Hungary". :shock:
I had (and still have) the feeling, that this wasn't the whole story, since the post described above has been deleted. Well, at least the site now presented me with an e-mail address, and the instruction to contact the Board Administrator for more information. So I sent a letter politely asking for a more in-depth explanation, which has been ignored for almost two months now (along with a follow-up letter). :?
Apparently I've been holding a grudge ever since, seeing how all this babbling has been prompted by getting some vinyl records.

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Re: ANGRY NATTERINGS

Postby Lazar » Mon Oct 31, 2016 2:49 pm UTC

So I've learned that Terry's Chocolate Orange has been shrunk by 10% from 175 g to 157 g, with the packaging remaining the same size and each of the slices being stealthily hollowed out. You can thank Kraft Foods, which – like all businesses that engage in shrinkflation – hate their customers and think they're too stupid to notice.

Does anyone know of a good substitute chocolate orange that's not made by evil fucks?
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Postby Zohar » Mon Oct 31, 2016 3:01 pm UTC

Is this legal? Aren't there laws against this kind of thing? Like misleading the public or something?
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Postby poxic » Mon Oct 31, 2016 3:12 pm UTC

It's illegal to sell 157g of chocolate that is labeled as 175g, but not to sell something that's 157g which used to be 175g as long as it's labeled a 157g. I don't think I want to proofread that sentence.

If the product is labeled correctly, the company can fill it with 91% air and sell a 16g choccie in the same box as the previous 175g choccie. Just as long as the bottom corner (or wherever) does indeed say "16g".
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Re: ANGRY NATTERINGS

Postby Flumble » Mon Oct 31, 2016 5:04 pm UTC

Is it really worth the extra cost having your chocolate in orange slice shape in the first place?
Why not have a chocolate bar? (and divide it into portions before you start eating, otherwise you're likely to eat the whole bar, only noticing it once you taste a paper flavour)

And while we're on the topic: if you're into sustainability/fair produce/whatever, make sure the chocolate bar you buy has a proper certification and not some phoney "this is totally fair trade because we made a separate organization funded by us to show with vague metrics that it's fair" certification and be very critical of proper certifications. (sidenote: whenever I buy a bar, it's from Tony's chocolonely, which was founded specifically to remove child labour/slavery from the chain, but even they can't keep that promise; even arguably worse, they're growing complacent, going for more market share rather than more ideology)

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Postby Thesh » Mon Oct 31, 2016 6:08 pm UTC

Flumble wrote:Is it really worth the extra cost having your chocolate in orange slice shape in the first place?

It's also orange flavored.
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Postby Flumble » Mon Oct 31, 2016 6:20 pm UTC

Thesh wrote:
Flumble wrote:Is it really worth the extra cost having your chocolate in orange slice shape in the first place?

It's also orange flavored.

Alright, but there's still a price difference with extant orange-flavoured chocolate bars, I presume?

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Re: ANGRY NATTERINGS

Postby HES » Mon Oct 31, 2016 6:25 pm UTC

Sure, but those don't come with the satisfaction of the opening smash.
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Postby Thesh » Mon Oct 31, 2016 6:28 pm UTC

Probably. Checking amazon.co.uk I found this:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lindt-Lindor-M ... ate+orange

US version of amazon also has this, which is Canadian, and probably not available in the UK, but it looks to be a half-way decent alternative at 195 grams (also, way overpriced, and much cheaper on other shops that come up on google):

https://www.amazon.com/Ovation-Chocolat ... ate+orange
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Re: ANGRY NATTERINGS

Postby addams » Thu Nov 03, 2016 6:44 pm UTC

I came here with something on my mind.
Then I read this:

Sableagle wrote:Well, 47 years to get started, then 13 years and a bit to actually do it.

Franklin D. Roosevelt, Harry S. Truman, Dwight D. Eisenhower, John F. Kennedy, Lyndon B. Johnson, Richard M. Nixon, Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan and George Bush all held office while it was in ruins, William J. Clinton came and went while it was being rebuilt and George W. Bush was in his second term in office (and Iraq was in ruins) by the time it was finished.

It's part of a bigger project to reconstruct the entire Neumarkt ... still ongoing, 71 years and 8 months after the bombing. They have hourly webcam panoramas and the cranes are still there. Of course, that's rebuilding the historic city and Haiti's in a rather different situation with a different need for a different kind of "rebuilding." It's still a long-term project, not one that a single US president can assist from start to finish.

Uuuu.ummm.
If your family were in Haiti, November, 2016;
If someone you loved were in Haiti, November, 2016;

Assuming you were able to communicate with them...
What would say?

A. Come Home; Where you will be treasured and safe.
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The proper greeting to a Refugee is, "Welcome Home."

Oh,..Ho-Hum...
The US may not be a safe place for Refugees.
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B. Shelter-in-Place; We'll get some potable water to you in 71 years;
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Lazar wrote:So I've learned that Terry's Chocolate Orange has been shrunk by 10% from 175 g to 157 g, with the packaging remaining the same size and each of the slices being stealthily hollowed out. You can thank Kraft Foods, which – like all businesses that engage in shrinkflation – hate their customers and think they're too stupid to notice.
Does anyone know of a good substitute chocolate orange that's not made by evil fucks?
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Maybe, There is increased pleasure and a more satisfying 'Thunk' with a little less bulk.
You may be fortunate they don't launch an add campaign and double the price.
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Postby Isaac Hill » Sat Nov 05, 2016 3:57 am UTC

Sableagle wrote:So you're letting fuel flow freely from supply tank to bottle in the hope it'll take the air bubbles with it, sort of like topping up the radiators and then opening the top of one to let the air out.

Presumably, your problem is that air is getting in somewhere. "Airtight" is tighter than "watertight" and presumably also tighter than "oiltight," so there could be a tiny flaw in a seal that allows the flow of oil to draw air in without allowing static oil pressure to drive oil out.

How to find such a thing, I couldn't say, but if it is big enough to let oil out you may be able to trace it that way and if it isn't you may be able to fix it by the rather ugly approach of painting epoxy resin over all the joints in your fuel feed line. Anyone required to do work on it would be displeased by this, but hey, it may work.
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Postby e^iπ+1=0 » Sat Nov 05, 2016 4:50 am UTC

On the subject of radiators, I turned off the ones on one side of my house a while back because I just wasn't using those rooms much and it wasn't that cold anyway. I recently tried turning them back on, but they appear not to work at all (the other radiators that were left on still work fine). Anyone know why that might have happened or how to fix it? Currently planning to call someone on Monday to take a look, but if I'm just being stupid and there's a simple fix I might as well do that instead.
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Postby Isaac Hill » Sat Nov 05, 2016 5:42 am UTC

You might just need to bleed those radiators. There's tutorials on line, like familyhandiman and wikihow. It seems simple enough to be worth a shot. Even if it doesn't work, you're only out a few minutes of time.

I found a couple youtube videos on bleeding an oil furnace that helped me out. Check there to see if you can find one that closely matches your system. Search for: bleed, radiator, and maybe the model number of your radiator, if you can find it.
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Postby Sableagle » Sat Nov 05, 2016 11:31 pm UTC

New bird box.
New ladder.
Saturday, not working.
Plans involving the above.
Two things that can put me right off going up a ladder against the house wall with an electric drill to install a new bird box: strong enough wind to blow the thing over with me on it and rain.
This morning: wind and rain.
Lovely evening, once the sun went down. Great for bonfires and firework displays in the dark.
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Postby poxic » Sun Nov 06, 2016 2:05 am UTC

Less good for going up ladders with bird boxes and drills.
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Re: ANGRY NATTERINGS

Postby addams » Mon Nov 07, 2016 10:27 pm UTC

Sableagle wrote:New bird box.
New ladder.
Saturday, not working.
Plans involving the above.
Two things that can put me right off going up a ladder against the house wall with an electric drill to install a new bird box: strong enough wind to blow the thing over with me on it and rain.
This morning: wind and rain.
Lovely evening, once the sun went down. Great for bonfires and firework displays in the dark.

(?) Nesting birds and fireworks....?
...oohhh...

No Bird Boxes = No Birds.
Fireworks are flashier!
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