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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 5:43 pm UTC
by PolakoVoador
Envelope Generator wrote:
Pfhorrest wrote:
Envelope Generator wrote:The -uff/-off vowel difference totally stumps me, as an ESL speaker. The distinction seems so subtle to me that I don't understand how it can persist, yet it will burn you viciously when you try to play crambo on a forum with native speakers.

You think that's hard, try distinguishing between "cot" and "caught" without turning one or the other of them into either "cat" or "coat".

(To my ear "cot" and "caught" both have the same vowel as "cough", while "cuff", which rhymes with "enough", has the same vowel as "cut").


To me "cot", "cut" and "cart" have for all intensive porpoises the same vowel sound... so disregarding vowel length the difference between "cot" and "caught" is the difference between "cart" and "court".


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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 6:31 am UTC
by Envelope Generator
Yes you are! And you're swimming there!

Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 5:49 pm UTC
by freezeblade
Time for a "Why AT&T is the shittiest company ever!" rant!

Monday:
Come home from work, internet is down, determine signal isn't making it to the house, call AT&T, sit on the line for 30 mins, going through their automated service where it tells me to turn off the router, my computer, etc. before I can get to a human, who after all that says "oh. my screen says I should send a tech. I'll schedule the visit for tuesday 10am, you don't need to be home, it's an outside visit." Awesome. It'll be all fixed by the time I get home.

Tuesday:
Get home from work, still not working. Call AT&T, go though the same 30 min automated service in order to get to a human.
phone drone: "My computer here says that your repair is scheduled for wendsday"
Me: "Did it get pushed back? I was told the appointment was today."
phone drone: "Nope, computer says it was always scheduled for wendsday between the hours of 8am and 8pm"
Me: "And this is an outside call right? I can't take the day off work, I don't have to be home?"
phone drone: "Correct, you won't need to be home"
Grumble.

Wendsday:
Recieve a call at work at 3:45pm.
Tech: "um, yeah so i'm here at your place, is anyone home to let me under the house?"
Me: "wait, what? I was told this would be an outside call?"
Tech: "nope. I need to get under the house, says right on my order"
Me: "well I can't take off work, I guess I will call and reschedule"
(note: i live in an appartment complex with a key-d access to under the house, which is a difficult thing to achieve, as you need to coordinate with the manger, who lives on the other side of the bay)
So in the afternoon I call and re-schedule with AT&T (same 30 min autoprompt) to have them show up between 4pm and 8pm Thursday. I work with the manager, and have a key now, so I can get down there, even though AT&T tells me again that I don't need to be home.

Thursday:
8pm rolls around and no word. I call AT&T (again with the 30 min autoprompt). They claim that they told the contractor to show up, but the contractor doens't have me on the books for an appointment. I'm a tad upset, this is really wearing on my nerves. AT&T schedules the appointment for friday, I can get my girlfriend to hang around the house, but she can't get there until after noon. AT&T assures me that the appointment is between 12-4pm, and says again that I don't need anyone there and not to worry about it.

Friday:
I get a call at work at 10am. It's the tech (different one though)
Tech: "Um, yeah, so I'm here at the place, is anyone home to let me under the house?"
Me: "Are you serious? I was told this was an outside call, and that it woulnt' be until noon at the earliest"
Tech: "Notebook here says inside call, and to get there between 8am and 8pm"
Me: "Well I have someone on the way, but she won't be there untill 11:30am at the earliest"
Tech: "more than an hour? Well, I'm going to have to pass up this appointment, I hope someone will have some extra time today to maybe visit your house. good luck." -he hangs up-

Now I'm sitting at work, quite pissed. What in the fuck AT&T, how horribly inadaquate can they be at their job? If I don't get it fixed today, I'm going to have to wait untill monday. And clearly they are all a bunch of slobbering idiots, I now need to take the time off work and call AT&T again, explain to them what's going on, and file a direct complant, pretty much demanding that they fix the shit they said they would fix on tuesday. If there was a better option I'd take it, but this is the problem with the phone/internet companies, there is no other choice so they feel that they can do this shitty of a job, and I'll still have to sit down and take it.

Grumble.

Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 6:31 pm UTC
by SecondTalon
freezeblade wrote:Time for a "Why AT&T is the shittiest company ever!" rant!

A+ rant, would read again.

So, the whole thing about needing to get access to something you didn't think you'd need access to I understand. Determining that remotely and not telling the client I don't understand. The repeated fuckups I continue to not understand.

Assuming the techs aren't lying - and as they're usually all contracted out and don't give a damn one way or another, and given what the tech is telling you on the phone - again, not like the tech actually cares and has no problem saying "Don't schedule until after noon"...

I can only conclude there's some middle-man at AT&T deciding to make things more "efficient" by rescheduling and rearranging orders and then not telling anyone else.

Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 3:31 am UTC
by addams
Scaary.
Who needs Steven King when we have FreezeBlade.

What a helpless feeling.
To think, there was a time when people thought Nothing of going weeks without internet.

I know most of us would be Fine as Frog's Hair.
I would miss it. Life would go on. Still; Scary.

I can not effect those large organizations.
Can you?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nepotism
Nepotism has been on my mind.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cronyism
So has Cronyism.

What a mess that stuff makes.
Both have their place.

In school we were told in no uncertain terms,
"You are going to find, in this old world, it is not so much What you know, but Who you know."

I Suck at knowing Who!
I know some Whats.
Not much Who.

It does not take much.
One person takes an instant liking to another person.
Poof! The paperwork is Easy. (like Magic)

His friend's friend said you are ok.
Poof! It's easy.

Why do you people make it look so hard?
Because it can go the other way, too?

One person takes an instant dislike to another person,
(fuck) I need What?? I don't have my Mother's Birth Certificate!
Get it? That could take weeks.

He's friend's friend says you are a NoGoodnik.
Things that work, don't work Right. (fuck)

Does it ever look like the deck is stacked against you?
Does it ever make you nervous when the Wrong people are too friendly?

And; The Right People stay out of the CrossHairs?

(shrug) I spoke to a man that was explaining some stuff to me.
No. I did not understand it. Not really. It's complicated.

What he was explaining was something someone else had failed to explain adequately.
The Thesis: Adults are Exactly like High School Students.

That is on a Good Day.
On a Bad Day it is:Junior High School without adult supervision.

I Swear!
The adults are worse than the children.
The children know it, too.

edit: I want to do nothing and do something.
Therefore, I will Rant.

Spoiler:
I have been hanging out watching people.
Sometimes they talk to me. People are funny.

I live in the US.
The Old Farts are Armed to the Teeth!

I was standing there while a GrandMotherly Type in jeans with the stretch waistband exposed her holster clipped onto her waistband.
She is a Qualified Concealed Carry person. That gun is Loaded! Those Old People are not taking any crap off anyone. (it's sort of funny)

Our people have a Bad Case of Bad Manners.
The Olds are tired of the Shits and Drizzle talk and the ill-mannered populace.

Is that not always the way?
They don't like the manners of those below them on the Educational Ladder.
And; I don't like their manners, much. (shrug) I am not likely to shoot them.

What was that Quote?
"We only want Equality with our Superiors."

Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 10:57 am UTC
by El gato
"You are going to find, in this old world, it is not so much What you know, but Who you know."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nepotism
Nepotism has been on my mind.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cronyism
So has Cronyism.


A problem with that is, you end up with an inferior product, destined to be consumed. Probably some shity entitled characters too.

Oh, and this world ain't that old. Infancy would be more appropriate, botrher

Might I be so bold as to recommend the T.V. show "Cosmos" on NatGeo. It puts time into perspective.

Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 10:04 am UTC
by Giant Speck
I didn't like AT&T when it came to my wireless service, but I didn't mind AT&T when it came to home internet (U-Verse).

We only have two internet/television providers here in Honolulu: Oceanic Time Warner Cable and Hawaiian Telcom (similar to AT&T U-Verse). I found out that I can only get service from the former and not the latter at my new condo. The whole looming merger thing with Comcast worries me.

Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 4:34 pm UTC
by Xeio
I have to balk at the 12 hour appointment window as well...

Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 5:12 pm UTC
by freezeblade
Xeio wrote:I have to balk at the 12 hour appointment window as well...


they give me this every time. I've even asked them why the window is so big, and if I can schedule it for a more specific time (I can't just ask for two days off in a row so that the company can fix my lines), and they tell me "the 12 hour window is standard.

Also, update on the AT&T appointment, they fixed the problem. turns out some moronic twat of a tech was at the house on monday (the day my internet went out) fixing another tenent's connection (I'm in a complex). The tech accidently Cut my phone lines which caused my internet to go out.

I swear sometimes I want to stab everyone responsible for this in the face.

Fuck you AT&T, fuck you with a pineapple covered in rock salt.

Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 7:03 pm UTC
by SecondTalon
freezeblade wrote:
Xeio wrote:I have to balk at the 12 hour appointment window as well...


they give me this every time. I've even asked them why the window is so big, and if I can schedule it for a more specific time (I can't just ask for two days off in a row so that the company can fix my lines), and they tell me "the 12 hour window is standard.


Because AT&T doesn't hook you up or fix your shit or do anything other than pay a guy. Andy's Contracting is who does it, and AT&T pays them.

Andy's Contracting has five employees and tries to do as many jobs as they can in a day. Andy's Contracting does not get much leeway in saying "No". Or, rather, Andy's Contracting can say "No, not today" all it wants - it just means AT&T will stop hiring them.

So Andy's Wiring is trying to do the 30 jobs in your area today. Which isn't bad, as that does only work out to six jobs each. For a lot of jobs, it's a nice in-out, plug this here, run this there, less than an hour and you're on to the next job. Aside from the 35 minutes of paperwork and phonecalls for every single job, mind you.

However, they also get terrible jobs. Jobs that no sane person would try to do without three people, 5,000 feet of wiring, a crane and 5 hours. But they don't have that, they have Carl. So Carl does the best he can and it takes him 8 hours to do it.

So instead of getting to you at 10am like he was expecting, he gets to you at 4pm. For your "9 to 6" window.

Don't get me wrong - the entire system is rigged so that AT&T makes money no matter what. That 8 hour job? AT&T's only paying for 5 hours as that's what their techs said it should take to do it. Their techs just neglected to mention the full scope. Probably because they were too busy, mucking around with people's orders and changing appointment times and job scopes.

Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 11:10 pm UTC
by Adacore
That's true, but it doesn't mean it's the only way to do things. I've had customer service from telecom providers in both the UK and Korea before where they gave me a 2 hour window to expect the engineer (and they arrived within that window). You don't need that much more slack in the system to narrow down appointment times to 'a couple of hours' rather than 'all day' in most cases. The service for telecoms companies in Korea is pretty amazing: appointments are normally available either same day or next day, and also, as soon as you book one you get a text message from the company with an ID photo of your assigned engineer and details of the appointment.

Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 1:09 pm UTC
by Drumheller769
In America, we cant have nice telecom things.

Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 1:47 pm UTC
by Adacore
Drumheller769 wrote:In America, we cant have nice telecom things.

A decade ago, when I got my first apartment on my own (in the UK), it took me 6 weeks to get internet installed. Change is possible! :lol:

Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 3:07 pm UTC
by SecondTalon
Adacore wrote:That's true, but it doesn't mean it's the only way to do things.
Oh god no. I hope you weren't reading that as anything but a "This is why it's as fucked as it's fucked" because.. I'd be hard pressed to come up with a more fucked-up system than the current American Telecom method. I think Passenger Pigeons would be more reliable, and those fuckers are extinct.

Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 3:51 pm UTC
by freezeblade
SecondTalon wrote:
Adacore wrote:That's true, but it doesn't mean it's the only way to do things.
Oh god no. I hope you weren't reading that as anything but a "This is why it's as fucked as it's fucked" because.. I'd be hard pressed to come up with a more fucked-up system than the current American Telecom method. I think Passenger Pigeons would be more reliable, and those fuckers are extinct.


*cough* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_over_Avian_Carriers *cough*

Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 4:12 pm UTC
by SecondTalon
Yeah, but those cheat. They use species that are still around.

What about IP over Dodo? That'd be literally strapping data to the Dodo remains that are shipped around from museum to museum, so... it might take a bit.

Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 8:01 am UTC
by Giant Speck
Adacore wrote:
Drumheller769 wrote:In America, we cant have nice telecom things.

A decade ago, when I got my first apartment on my own (in the UK), it took me 6 weeks to get internet installed. Change is possible! :lol:

I called on 13 June to set up internet service in my apartment; they can't come out to do so until 3 July. :/

Luckily, I have a jailbroken iPhone and unlimited data with T-Mobile.

Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 8:38 am UTC
by Diadem
If we're ranting about ISPs: I requested internet in my new apartment on April 30th. It is scheduled to be delivered on July 6th.

When I moved into my new apartment, I figured I wanted fiber. My neighbors have fiber, but apparent the previous owner opted out when the neighborhood was wired up (fucker). So turns out they can hook me up, for free even, but it apparently takes over 2 months. In the meantime I could get internet via VDSL (telephone wires), which could be done in about 2 weeks. Ok, well, that sounded acceptable. VDSL is a bit slow, but acceptable for a month or two. And two weeks to install that sounds long, but I was busy moving anyway, so fine. So far so good.

So a guy from my ISP came over, a few days before the 2 week deadline actually, and hooked me up, and lo and behold, it didn't work. "I can't find a signal, I'll have them send over a mechanic tomorrow". The next day the mechanic arrived: "Yeah there doesn't seem to be a signal. In fact I only measure a cable length of 50 meters, while it should be near a kilometer. I'm going to have to call in a specialized team". Uhoh. So the next day the specialized team arrived, and they quickly confirmed something was wrong. Finding out what took a bit longer, but in the end it turned out that there is a cable running from my apartment into the wall, going down, and there is a cable running from the ground into the wall, going up.... but it's not the same cable. My apartment was renovated 2 years ago, and it turns out it was renovated by idiots, who hooked up a random, long discarded phone cable from the 60s, instead of the one actually in use.

"Well, we can fix that, but we're going to have to lay an entirely new cable from the neighborhood switchboard. We need permits and licenses for that, so this will take probably around 2 months".

Fuck.

Ok so getting VDSL temporary makes no sense, it if takes as long to fix as getting fibre in the first place takes. My ISP agreed, and cancelled that subscription free of charge. Their suggested alternative was a USB wireless modem with a wireless subscription. Ok, that sucks, but I'll take it. The speed is wireless is actually quite decent, but it has a 2 GB datalimit, so yeah, that sucks.

So far the service of my ISP has been nothing but stellar, and the problems not their fault. But this is where things start getting truly weird. They had apparently made 2 customer IDs for me, because I had 2 subscriptions (the VDSL and the fibre one). The new wireless subscription was apparently booked under my VDSL customer ID, which was subsequently cancelled. No doubt a few more things went wrong as well.

As a result I now have the USD wireless modem, despite never getting charged for one. They sent me not one, but three sim cards for it, only 1 of which works, and it has a 200 MB limit, not 2 GB. Stranger still, I now get all communication from them in 2-fold. Except for a bill I got in 4-fold. And this bill was a for a negative amount. They also sent me a box to return their router back to them, then the very next day sent me an identical new router.

So everything is completely fucked up, and I have no idea if I'll ever get internet, but somehow my ISP is paying me instead of the other way around... so... yeah.

Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 2:24 pm UTC
by SecondTalon
I advise you to set aside an hour or two and call them up.

Because otherwise you (probably) aren't going to get anything from them. UserID1 is cancelled, UserID2 doesn't have any services listed, no Fiber for you.

Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 1:13 am UTC
by SurgicalSteel
So, I realized that if I keep living the way I do (i.e. zero exercise and infinity junk food) I'm probably not going to live past 35. It's been way too goddam hot around here to actually go outside, so I figure a jump rope is a nice easy, convenient way to get some cardio. First jump, I roll my ankle, and now I'm on vicodin, a cane and a support wrap for the next week. See kids, ambition leads to nothing but trouble.

Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 2:00 am UTC
by addams
SecondTalon wrote:
Adacore wrote:That's true, but it doesn't mean it's the only way to do things.
Oh god no. I hope you weren't reading that as anything but a "This is why it's as fucked as it's fucked" because.. I'd be hard pressed to come up with a more fucked-up system than the current American Telecom method. I think Passenger Pigeons would be more reliable, and those fuckers are extinct.

Now. Now. You little Panter.
Passenger Pigeons would be Worse.

Well...Maybe, not.
Our great joy at receiving a message would be better than the mundane ho-hum we receive, somewhat, reliable internet messages with.

At least in the US we get to have The Promise of Internet;
if we can find enough money under the sofa.
If we are home during the 12 hour window.
If the Tech is not overwhelmed, suduced by only God knows who, not lost, And; Knows what the different color wired do.

Oh. (dear god)
I was watching an Internet/TV/Telephone guy work.
He was talking to me.

The wires look almost all the same.
In an Apartment Building they need to be Labeled.

The ones he was working with had not been properly Labeled.
He was nice. He was chatty. He also needed my help to ID the wires.

I went to each apartment and brought back Info.
Like, "Yes. It's working." or "Nope. That's the wrong one."

They were Labeled when he left.
Good Him! He was New.

Maybe after a while Techs get Burnt Out.
It does not take long when the impossible is demanded.

How The Hell was he supposed to know what wire goes where?
They all looked the same. They all disappeared together.

Who knows what they get up to inside a wall?
Without a schematic, or SuperMan X-ray vision,
those wires may be dancing inside the wall.

The way those wires were done a schematic would not have helped.

Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 7:49 am UTC
by Giant Speck
Why did I bring my washer and dryer to Hawaii? Why am I so stupid?

I removed the existing washer and dryer and stored them elsewhere in the apartment. I spent three hours prepping the dryer to be stacked on top of the washer, moving the heavy-ass washer over to the faucets and hooking them up, and then stacking the not-as-heavy-as-the-washer-but-still-fucking-heavy dryer on top of the washer... only to discover that the dryer has a four-prong plug and the outlet is an older three-prong outlet.

I CANNOT WIN FOR LOSING.

Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 7:54 am UTC
by yurell
Four prongs? What's the fourth for? Here (Australia) three-prong outlets are standard (devices have either two or three prongs).

Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 7:56 am UTC
by Suzaku
This. I hate it when stuff doesn't match up like that.

Spoiler for unsolicited advice:
Spoiler:
I was going to say 'adapters are your friend', but apparently they don't exist for this, so I'll instead link to this article, which a) taught me that there are no adapters, and b) explains how to change the cord for a 3-prong one.
Hope this helps.


Edit: @yurell, it looks like it's a second earth wire, presumably to a separate (local?) earth from the regular, shared earth.

Caveat to all the above - I am not an electrician.

Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 8:02 am UTC
by Giant Speck
yurell wrote:Four prongs? What's the fourth for? Here (Australia) three-prong outlets are standard (devices have either two or three prongs).


It's to allow for two different voltages: 120V and 240V.

Suzaku wrote:This. I hate it when stuff doesn't match up like that.

Spoiler for unsolicited advice:
Spoiler:
I was going to say 'adapters are your friend', but apparently they don't exist for this, so I'll instead link to this article, which a) taught me that there are no adapters, and b) explains how to change the cord for a 3-prong one.
Hope this helps.


Yeah, an adapter would be highly dangerous. I'm going to go to Home Depot over the weekend and look for a 3-prong cord and switch them out.

Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 8:09 am UTC
by Suzaku
A little research reveals that I'm wrong.
It's to allow for two, 180°-phase-opposed line wires so you can draw both L-N (100/120V) or L-L (200/240V) from the same socket.

That's actually a very neat design.

Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 8:16 am UTC
by Giant Speck
Yeah, it's pretty much required in residences built after 2000. My apartment in Biloxi was fairly new, so it had the four-prong outlet, but my current building here in Honolulu was built in 1971.

Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 8:20 am UTC
by yurell
Why are there two different sets of voltages? I'm very used to just having the one option (240V).

Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 8:29 am UTC
by Suzaku
Because US standard is 100/120 V, but some appliances (clothes dryers are a big one, aircons are another) really need to run at 200/240. The main reason, as I understand it, is because you get more power with the same current at a higher voltage (P=VA).

Australia, like the UK if I remember correctly, chose to have 240 V as the standard power, so there's no need there to have special sockets to allow for a lower-than-standard voltage.

Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 12:23 pm UTC
by El gato
120 will give you a jolt, 240 will kill you. It's a safety issue. Little kids poking about and the like. I'm sure it has saved many a life.

Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 3:22 pm UTC
by freezeblade
El gato wrote:120 will give you a jolt, 240 will kill you. It's a safety issue. Little kids poking about and the like. I'm sure it has saved many a life.


As someone who has gotten a 240 jolt before (In a construction class), it certainly does suck lots but I didn't die.

Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 3:25 pm UTC
by Sytri
freezeblade wrote:
El gato wrote:120 will give you a jolt, 240 will kill you. It's a safety issue. Little kids poking about and the like. I'm sure it has saved many a life.


As someone who has gotten a 240 jolt before (In a construction class), it certainly does suck lots but I didn't die.


I've always thought that it's not the voltage that gets you but the current. Could be wrong.

Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 3:27 pm UTC
by eran_rathan
Sytri wrote:
freezeblade wrote:
El gato wrote:120 will give you a jolt, 240 will kill you. It's a safety issue. Little kids poking about and the like. I'm sure it has saved many a life.


As someone who has gotten a 240 jolt before (In a construction class), it certainly does suck lots but I didn't die.


I've always thought that it's not the voltage that gets you but the current. Could be wrong.



It depends, but yeah, significant current will be more likely to kill you/do more damage than similarly significant voltage. Both can kill pretty easily, however.

Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 3:34 pm UTC
by pseudoidiot
freezeblade wrote:
El gato wrote:120 will give you a jolt, 240 will kill you. It's a safety issue. Little kids poking about and the like. I'm sure it has saved many a life.


As someone who has gotten a 240 jolt before (In a construction class), it certainly does suck lots but I didn't die.
125VDC isn't much fun either.

Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 3:38 pm UTC
by JBJ
Current hurts the organs, voltage hurts the skin.

Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2014 6:36 am UTC
by addams
freezeblade wrote:
El gato wrote:120 will give you a jolt, 240 will kill you. It's a safety issue. Little kids poking about and the like. I'm sure it has saved many a life.


As someone who has gotten a 240 jolt before (In a construction class), it certainly does suck lots but I didn't die.

Me, too.

I was told the circuit was off.
I had been working on those wires for minutes, thinking it was off.

While I was working my pliers touched two wires, it hurt.
My joints hurt for two days.

When the current hit me, it made my hand contract.
That cut the wire and moved me away from the wire.

Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2014 8:27 am UTC
by Pfhorrest
I used to work in a computer repair shop and one time walked back into the work area to see one of my fellow technicians working on a CRT but frozen completely still and not responding to his name or to anything. After a bit of that he convulsed and fell back off his stool onto the floor. Turns out he had somehow made contact with a capacitor inside the CRT shortly before I walked in and it had had that effect on him.

Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2014 8:50 am UTC
by Adacore
Was he okay? :o

Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 4:59 am UTC
by Jave D
The GoogTube has made a new "feature." Before, the default player size was small, you could make it medium size or larger or full-screen. Now, the default is large and you can make it full screen. But the good news is you can still make it smaller, by decreasing your browser size, which is perfect for those of us with small screens, and by perfect i mean completely fucked. An improvement that improves nothing, but decreases the options and choices of end users.

Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 5:45 am UTC
by yurell
My problem is that YouTube defaults to the tiny size instead of the large size, despite me being able to watch 1080p in real time.