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Re: ANGRY NATTERINGS

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 6:27 pm UTC
by Zohar
Sableagle wrote:In the work canteen this week, the subject of "Trump's Muslim ban" came up, and someone said:
I can't wait till he starts culling them. Me and Stu are going to organise a bus trip, go over there and join in.


As long as I don't really believe him, I can't really kill him ... but hey, yes, there are Nazis in Britain and I found one.

That really sounds like something you could complain to at HR, if you're interested in going down that (difficult) path.

Re: ANGRY NATTERINGS

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 10:59 pm UTC
by eSOANEM
I'm fairly sure that's actually illegal in this country (I think it should come under hate speech). Going to HR is entirely appropriate and is definitely not escalating too far seeing as, legally, you'd be reasonable to go to the police.

Re: ANGRY NATTERINGS

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 2:19 pm UTC
by Drumheller769
Gonna be a he said/no he said thing when they deny it, and it wont go anywhere but be a pain for all involved. Bring it up again and record it! <totally not illegal>

Re: ANGRY NATTERINGS

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 5:07 pm UTC
by Sableagle
Yesterday, someone rang up and asked to speak to HR. As far as anyone in the office knew, we don't have HR. I checked on Google and we're actually there in the headline, Why ________ doesn't need an HR department and in an article titled Managing without HR, so that option's not there.

Amazon, dear Amazon, your algorithms amuse me.

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Re: ANGRY NATTERINGS

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 3:55 am UTC
by addams
There is no more frightening foe than gleeful, willful ignorance.

Re: ANGRY NATTERINGS

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 1:25 pm UTC
by eSOANEM
If there's no HR, can you go to his manager instead?

Re: ANGRY NATTERINGS

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 8:56 pm UTC
by addams
I feel like a Rant.
You can skip it.

Argh! Trump does not know Jack Shit!
He is in a position to know Jack Ma!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsQ7ysVt-0A

What The F*#K!
He wants my people to compete for $12.00 a day jobs!
And; My people, the beloved UnderEducated, say,"Yes!"

Re: ANGRY NATTERINGS

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2017 4:04 pm UTC
by Jumble
Okay, I'm genuinely disturbed by this. I would know nothing about this if it wasn't for the fact I have access to pretty much nothing other than news channels. Trump came onto BBC news so I turned over (the fuckwit-in-chief has nothing to say I care to waste my time listening to). On Al Jazeera I stumbled across this. if false then the Independent, the Guardian and Al Jazeera are guilty of the worst levels of sloppy journalism. If true it is obscene and horrible from a civilised western state. Almost as worrying, why is this not headlining on BBC news and France24? Clearly CNN has obsessions closer to home and Sky & Fox news wouldn't know a real news story if it jumped repeatedly on their heads. Should I give up any residual trust in any 'news' outlet?

Re: ANGRY NATTERINGS

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 2:50 pm UTC
by Mutex
Not sure why it would be headlining on the BBC. Protests over police brutality in Paris? Seems less important than what is currently headlining on the BBC - Michael Flynn resigning over his ties with Russia, which could have resulted in the US National Security Adviser being blackmailed by the Kremlin. The bar is kinda high right now for an event to be considered important. As for France24 - they're probably more concerned with the possibility of a fascist taking over their country soon.

EDIT: Unless you're asking why the BBC didn't report it at all - they actually did, but I had to search for it: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-38948337

Re: ANGRY NATTERINGS

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 6:58 pm UTC
by flicky1991
Mutex wrote:Seems less important than what is currently headlining on the BBC - Michael Flynn resigning over his ties with Russia
Jumble posted before Flynn resigned...

Re: ANGRY NATTERINGS

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 7:28 pm UTC
by Mutex
Oh, true, but that's just one of the things that's been happening lately. Doesn't seem odd to me that the Paris protests weren't prioritised.

Re: ANGRY NATTERINGS

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 7:33 pm UTC
by addams
ok. You Posters Trump anything I have to complain about.
(Dang!) The pun was unintended. Yet; I left it in.

I do have a little 'thing' to complain, about.
They, the County of Lane in Oregon, USA,
are charging $4.00 US to park at Mt. Pisgha.
(Please note that Lane County Parks charges a $4 parking fee per vehicle.)

http://www.mountpisgaharboretum.com/about-mpa/
Yes. That will inspire the young and healthy to take their bicycles out to the park.
It puts visiting the park out of reach for low income families and disabled people.

(oh, sigh.) I remember The Days when protesting and changing Rules
to better serve members of my community was my active civic duty.

Now; Police brutality is of greater concern both at home and abroad.
What Kind Of A World Have We Created??!

I suppose, I should thank our Lucky Stars.
That fee may protect that dry savanna from city scalawags.
Spoiler:
scalawags:a person who behaves badly but in an amusingly mischievous rather than harmful way; a rascal.
Yet; No one needs the healing presence of nature more.

Re: ANGRY NATTERINGS

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 6:41 pm UTC
by somitomi
The moment you realise the backup-app made the backup on your phone's internal memory instead of the removable SD card without you realising, because some colossal specimen of stupidity thought it'd be a good idea for Android to call the internal storage "sdcard0". So now all your contacts1 (except those on your SIM-card) went straight to dev/null upon resetting your phone. As if resetting the damn thing didn't provide enough annoyance already with the bloatware you need to get rid of again or the automatic help popping up every single time to tell you things you already know about swiping to unlock the screen and such.
I now yearn for the past, when mobile phones weren't trying to be computers, computers didn't try to be phones and manufacturers didn't bundle a shitload of useless software into OS's. As much as like smartphones, I feel like technology gets on my nerves more often than it did ten years ago...

1 not to mention three years worth of photos or the handful of apps I actually used...

Re: ANGRY NATTERINGS

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 10:38 pm UTC
by Flumble
Have you heard about our lord and saviour Windows 10 Mobile? It pretty much behaves like a phone, because no one dares making an app for the platform. And you don't have to spend time removing the bloatware: you just can't.

On the other hand, it doesn't ever crash or break, so there's no need to have backups, and you have to charge your phone only one a week (because you barely use it). :P

Re: ANGRY NATTERINGS

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 10:41 pm UTC
by poxic
My solution has evolved into a dumbphone plus a tablet. If I bothered to get a data plan for the tablet, I'd be unstoppable walking into things, like decorative fountains and traffic.

Re: ANGRY NATTERINGS

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:59 pm UTC
by Kewangji
How common would y'all say the knowledge of "don't [fucking] pour tonnes of fat into the [fucking] drain as it might clog the [fucking] pipes" is?

Re: ANGRY NATTERINGS

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 4:28 pm UTC
by speising
Kewangji wrote:How common would y'all say the knowledge of "don't [fucking] pour tonnes of fat into the [fucking] drain as it might clog the [fucking] pipes" is?

[fucking] very.

Re: ANGRY NATTERINGS

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 4:57 pm UTC
by poxic
Not quite very. More like not very. Fatbergs are still a thing.

Re: ANGRY NATTERINGS

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 5:28 pm UTC
by Mutex
Yeah, not knowing that is unfortunately common.

Re: ANGRY NATTERINGS

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 5:30 pm UTC
by Kewangji
I can still be angry at fatbergists though, right? Like, say, if someone poured two cartons of I-Can't-Believe-&c down the drain, they must notice that it goes really slowly and they should, reasonably, stop and think "maybe I am a shithead brainless punk". Because I am very angry. I'm also ill so my head hurts a lot with the rage, which doesn't help.

EDIT: Also the fat was rancid because they'd left it out for a few days intending to dispose of it but not getting around to it for a while. Like, a week. (Is rancid the right word here? It was bad anyway.)

Re: ANGRY NATTERINGS

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 5:44 pm UTC
by SecondTalon
Jesus. Yeah. Boil lots and lots of water and pour it down the sink while yelling about how you'd do it over their hands except it'd cool the water too much and also you don't want to hear their screams.

Re: ANGRY NATTERINGS

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 6:14 pm UTC
by Kewangji
SecondTalon wrote:
Jesus. Yeah. Boil lots and lots of water and pour it down the sink while yelling about how you'd do it over their hands except it'd cool the water too much and also you don't want to hear their screams.

Thank you, ST, for offering level-headed advice. I shall heed it.

Re: ANGRY NATTERINGS

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 6:30 pm UTC
by Flumble
I think mixing the boiling water with soap (or other fat-encapsulating detergent) would help a great deal too. Also with making sure the burn marks are clean.

Re: ANGRY NATTERINGS

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 7:09 pm UTC
by Pfhorrest
I had a sink clogged years ago and the plumber said it was due to "someone pouring tons of oil down the drain over years", which sounded ridiculous, who the the fuck would do something like that (it was a house shared with other strangers so someone else could have, it wasn't an accusation pointed at me). Years later still a new housemate saw me washing a pan that I had stir-fried something in oil in over the sink (washing the leftover oil, mixed with soap and water, down the drain) and berated me for that, saying that doing that enough will clog the sink up.

I'm still not sure what the fuck you're supposed to do with the oil left over in a pan if not that (throw it on the fucking lawn or something?) so I just gave up cooking with oil entirely. Needed to reduce the fat in my diet anyway.

That same housemate apparently jarred his used cooking oil and kept it in his cabinet. I don't know what he did with it after that. When I saw him with jars of oil, a while before he berated me for washing my pan, I had thought "does he pour tons of oil down the drain? why? what the hell is the purpose of that?"

Re: ANGRY NATTERINGS

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 7:19 pm UTC
by Sizik
I keep a metal coffee can in the fridge for oil/grease disposal (e.g. from browning ground beef). When it gets full, it goes in the trash and is replaced with a new can.

Re: ANGRY NATTERINGS

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 7:34 pm UTC
by SecondTalon
I've got a glass mason jar that I fill with grease then trash, leaving an empty jar.

If I cooked more things that produced greased, I'd save it for future cooking.

Re: ANGRY NATTERINGS

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 7:38 pm UTC
by eSOANEM
If there's a significant amount of oil left on a pan I'll usually wipe it off with kitchen roll and put it in the bin. If it's not enough to wipe off I tend to just wash it up and it goes down the sink with a washing up bowl full of hot soapy water.

I did have to unblock our sink here once though. I think that was mostly food stuff though. A new housemate moved in and kept not putting the drain trap back in place (splashes could move it off the drain itself pretty easily) and he'd deliberately put crumbs down it rather than in the bin.

Idk, when soap and hot water didn't seem to help I ordered some drain cleaner from Amazon prime and it cleared it right out even if it was covered in terrifying warnings about all the lye and acid and shit

Re: ANGRY NATTERINGS

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 7:40 pm UTC
by speising
I eat the fat i cook with.

Re: ANGRY NATTERINGS

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 7:46 pm UTC
by Flumble
Don't you have oil collection points nearby?

We save up our bottles of used oil (used for deep-frying and stuff) until someone takes the effort to bring them to a collection point (the nearest one seems to be the football club), whence they will be moved to a recycling station for biofuel or whatever.

Re: ANGRY NATTERINGS

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 8:38 am UTC
by addams
Kewangji wrote:I can still be angry at fatbergists though, right? Like, say, if someone poured two cartons of I-Can't-Believe-&c down the drain, they must notice that it goes really slowly and they should, reasonably, stop and think "maybe I am a shithead brainless punk".

Because I am very angry. I'm also ill so my head hurts a lot with the rage, which doesn't help.
I'm sorry you are sick.

I hope your headache goes away.
A headaches is an awful thing.

Idiot roommates are damn awful, too.
A good roommate is a Joy, everyday.

I hope you get one of those.
People get married for that.

Re: ANGRY NATTERINGS

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 8:52 pm UTC
by somitomi
Flumble wrote:Don't you have oil collection points nearby?

We save up our bottles of used oil (used for deep-frying and stuff) until someone takes the effort to bring them to a collection point (the nearest one seems to be the football club), whence they will be moved to a recycling station for biofuel or whatever.

Apparently running your car off filtered vegetable oil is something you could do at home. Except in Hungary that is illegal, because (get this) an excise tax is imposed on all fuels. Making the practice tax fraud of all things.

Re: ANGRY NATTERINGS

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 10:43 pm UTC
by e^iπ+1=0
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Re: ANGRY NATTERINGS

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 12:06 am UTC
by SecondTalon
It's accurate for the US. Not sure exactly in how they catch you, but you're supposed to report the number of gallons made and pay taxes on them annually.

Of course, you're also supposed to report your income when you sell crack and pay the appropriate sales taxes on it, so....

Re: ANGRY NATTERINGS

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 1:31 am UTC
by Liri
There's a biodiesel station at my town's public works depot that I fill up with B100 (it's B60 in the winter) at - the co-op that makes it gets their grease from the local fast-food chains, mainly. It's fun getting to park with the firetrucks.

Re: ANGRY NATTERINGS

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 2:34 am UTC
by e^iπ+1=0
Huh, fair enough, I guess. How bizarre.

Re: ANGRY NATTERINGS

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 3:29 am UTC
by ucim
e^iπ+1=0 wrote:Huh, fair enough, I guess. How bizarre.
The tax on fuel is not about the fuel. It's about the road use (and construction and maintanance...). The fuel merely acts as a proxy for that.
Spoiler:
The exact same substance that could be put in the fuel tank is much cheaper as heating fuel, because it's not being taxed to pay for road work.
Electric vehicles are getting a pass on it right now, but should they become popular, some way of taxing them will become necessary. According to gaspricewatch, taxes on fuel come to about 50c per gallon. This would put a cap on the monetary savings of electric cars - one way or another, even with "infinite gas milage" (free solar electric cars), we'd have to pay at least about a quarter of what we pay now for fuel the distance their fuel takes us, presumed to be on public roads.

Jose

Re: ANGRY NATTERINGS

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 3:39 am UTC
by SecondTalon
And that's one of the reasons farm diesel is cheaper than regular diesel. And it's why they get piiiiiiiissed if they find it in your non-farm use vehicle.

Re: ANGRY NATTERINGS

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:57 pm UTC
by eran_rathan
If I ever meet Death incarnate, I'm punching that motherfucker in his fucking face.

Mom last year (cancer).
brother in law three weeks ago (sudden heart attack).
Boss and mentor (today, stroke).
good friend (dying of inoperable brain cancer).

fuck this shit.

Re: ANGRY NATTERINGS

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 5:23 pm UTC
by Pfhorrest
"...and the pale horse you rode in on!"

Re: ANGRY NATTERINGS

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:02 pm UTC
by eran_rathan
Pfhorrest wrote:"...and the pale horse you rode in on!"


That made me literally laugh out loud. Thanks, Pfhorrest.