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Re: Blistering blue barnacles

Postby Sableagle » Tue Aug 28, 2018 1:14 pm UTC

Ordered 2m of velvet.

Got a piece of velvet that may just about have been 2m long along each side, but wasn't rectangular.

Cut out most of the pieces I need.

Stuff is a nightmare, shifting and skewing and wrinkling and stretching and curling over on itself.

Got around to trying to mark out the last bits of it I need.

1) I don't have 80cm left, more like 60cm, and I didn't throw away 20cm at the other end of the piece when I started.

2) I cut out all those pieces upside down. Velvet has a direction. It ought to be smooth when you run a hand down it and rough when you run a hand up it. This piece is going to be made the other way. Oops.

I guess I have to do the next pieces sideways so they'll be smooth medial-lateral and rough lateral-medial (on the front, smooth dorsal-ventral and rough ventral-dorsal on the medial, smooth ventral-dorsal and rough dorsal-ventral on the lateral and ... yeah).
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Re: Blistering blue barnacles

Postby SecondTalon » Tue Aug 28, 2018 1:37 pm UTC

cephalopod9 wrote:I'm in real far to an anger spiral
mostly about
BLinking Yellow Left Turn Arrows

they're poppin' up in intersections, and anecdotally, i think they're awful and distracting and not helpful.
I don't feel at all like they're making people more attentive or cautious, but I do feel like there's a huge increase of people still in the intersection trying to make a left turn after the light has changed gettin' in everyone's way.

Really?

From what I've noted around here, the green cycle is unchanged, allowing for the addition of the yellow (instead of a red) to sometimes allow more traffic through per cycle than would normally get through.

Like, if the green typically gets 10 cars through the turn and the red cycle lasts long enough that, if it were green the whole time, 50 cars could get through, then without a yellow cycle it's just 10 cars per cycle. But with the addition of yellow, the number can be anywhere from 10 to 60 cars per cycle.

Especially on those turns that are busy at rush hours but unbusy at, say, 3pm - or completely dead at 3am. The caution turn allows me to continue on my way when the standard green/red would have me stuck at a light - with no oncoming traffic - for a minute or two.

Also, holy crap did that website you linked overcomplicate things.

It's a flashing yellow. That's caution. It means you don't have to stop but may need to if other traffic has a right of way. If it has an arrow then it applies to that direction only. That's it. That's the end of it. If you don't understand that you need to retake the driving exam, or at least review the book.
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Re: Blistering blue barnacles

Postby Sableagle » Tue Aug 28, 2018 7:32 pm UTC

Meanwhile on photobucket, which always requires me to login no matter how often I tell it to remember me,
215 of 212 uploaded to Your Bucket
first time and I need to reupload 21 of them that didn't quite make it, then
236 of 233 uploaded to Your Bucket
and I need to rereupload 5 of them that didn't make it the second time either.

Sheesh.
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Re: Blistering blue barnacles

Postby cephalopod9 » Tue Aug 28, 2018 10:06 pm UTC

SecondTalon wrote:From what I've noted around here, the green cycle is unchanged, allowing for the addition of the yellow (instead of a red) to sometimes allow more traffic through per cycle than would normally get through.

Like, if the green typically gets 10 cars through the turn and the red cycle lasts long enough that, if it were green the whole time, 50 cars could get through, then without a yellow cycle it's just 10 cars per cycle. But with the addition of yellow, the number can be anywhere from 10 to 60 cars per cycle.
Where you are, does the red arrow typically stay on for the duration of the green light? ...this feels like something that shouldn't vary between states, but maybe it does, like how my driver's licence doesn't expire until I'm 65 years of age.
Here, Arizona, the left arrow typically turns off, and No Arrow on a green (circular) light means "yield to oncoming traffic"
so adding a Blinking Yellow Left Arrow just also says "yield to oncoming traffic" but with blinking lights.

I'm a little sleep deprived, presently.

It might be better and more efficient to have a blinking yellow arrow. I also don't have any real solid reason to blame the blinking arrows for the thing I'm mad about, which is not how long the light itself lasts, but cars still in the intersection after the light has changed, which I'll try and illustrate here.
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overhead intersection, I'm at the bottom and I want to go left.
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so I have the red light, and going the other direction, is a green light with the Blinking Yellow Arrow
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Then the light turns to solid yellow. then.... the car waiting to make a left turn remembers they should go now, and maybe three or four cars behind them think "If they have time to make it through so do I!"
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And then I get very mad because I have the green arrow, it is my turn to go through the intersection and the problem car is in my way.

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Re: Blistering blue barnacles

Postby HES » Tue Aug 28, 2018 10:33 pm UTC

Either the intergreen isn't long enough or some asshole drove through a red light.
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Re: Blistering blue barnacles

Postby SecondTalon » Wed Aug 29, 2018 2:20 am UTC

cephalopod9 wrote:Where you are, does the red arrow typically stay on for the duration of the green light?
Depends on the intersection.

We have several around town where the turning lanes of one road have the green and no one else, then they’ll both cycle to flashing yellow while straight has green, then both go red, and the crossroad does the same.

We have some where three of the four have reds and one side (Let’s say Northbound)has an all go, then the turning is turned to flashing yellow and Southbound straight gets a green and it’s turning a flashing yellow, then Northbound is all red and Southbound is all green, then N/S is red and E/W does something similar.

We have intersections where one road does one and the crossroad does the other.

And then we have intersections that don’t have a dedicated turning light or a hybrid turning light - a light four spaces long, not three, and the bottom being an arrow.

....

Of course, we have a road here that people who grew up in this town say they avoid during rush hour because they don’t understand it - and it takes outsiders about a day to figure it out.
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Re: Blistering blue barnacles

Postby Pfhorrest » Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:01 am UTC

On State Street, the main road through downtown Santa Barbara, there are "No Left Turn" signs, with a time range sign under them of 10AM-6PM, and then an Except Sundays sign under that. So if you want to make a left turn, don't, unless it's NOT between 10AM and 6PM, or it IS a Sundaoh look at that the light changed already by the time you figured it out.

Even after living in that town for about a decade, I once got pulled over when I was about to make a left turn there, but suddenly wasn't sure if it was actually Sunday like I was thinking or was still Saturday, upon realizing it was Saturday had to check the time to see if it was after 6PM, then realizing it wasn't realized I had to make three right turns to get where I was going, only to by then have forgotten that the bicycle lane becomes a right-turn lane a car's length from the intersection so you're not allowed to turn right from the main traveling lane where I was.
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Re: Blistering blue barnacles

Postby cephalopod9 » Wed Aug 29, 2018 6:36 pm UTC

Is there a word for "i can see how each step along the way had it's own logic, but the end result is lunacy"?
HES wrote:Either the intergreen isn't long enough or some asshole drove through a red light.

could be both.
Drivers are definitely breaking The Rule that you shouldn't enter an intersection unless you can definitely clear it. Also though, it's easy to pull a little bit too far forward, and reversing and backing up is way more stress and is probably going to take longer anyway.
I feel like the inconsistency between stop lights is bad, and "reading" the change from "blinking yellow" to "solid yellow" can take just an extra quarter second or whatever. It's not a complicated thing, but I can't think of other situations where Blinking Yellow Light means "focus your attention over in that other area".

If I really stopped and carefully considered all the possible times a car I have been in has narrowly escaped death, I would probably not go outside anymore.

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Re: Blistering blue barnacles

Postby Zohar » Wed Aug 29, 2018 7:00 pm UTC

cephalopod9 wrote:Is there a word for "i can see how each step along the way had it's own logic, but the end result is lunacy"?

I don't know, but this is my favorite example of it.
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Re: Blistering blue barnacles

Postby somitomi » Wed Aug 29, 2018 9:00 pm UTC

cephalopod9 wrote:BLinking Yellow Left Turn Arrows

they're poppin' up in intersections, and anecdotally, i think they're awful and distracting and not helpful.
I don't feel at all like they're making people more attentive or cautious, but I do feel like there's a huge increase of people still in the intersection trying to make a left turn after the light has changed gettin' in everyone's way.

What on earth are "blinking yellow left turn arrows"?
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Re: Blistering blue barnacles

Postby Pfhorrest » Wed Aug 29, 2018 9:32 pm UTC

Some intersections have protected left-hand turns. Whether or not you may turn is indicated by a traffic light in the shape of an arrow pointing left.

A red arrow means you can't turn now. It's a right light, applied only to the left turn.

No arrow means your turn is not protected, but you may turn according to normal right-of-law rules (e.g. if the main light is green, and after yielding to cross traffic, etc).

A green arrow means you may turn, and you have the right of way; your turn is protected.

Like normal green lights, green arrows become yellow when they're about to go away; either to no arrow, or to a red arrow.

Apparently in some places, those yellow arrows now flash.

Presumably to draw still further attention to the fact that in a moment other people will have the right-of-way through where you might presently be turning.
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Re: Blistering blue barnacles

Postby Sableagle » Wed Aug 29, 2018 10:44 pm UTC

To confuse the matter further, in the UK we have steady red - blinking amber - steady green - steady amber - steady red, the turn arrows just jump straight to green and the pedestrian crossing lights go steady red - steady green - blinking green - steady red.
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Re: Blistering blue barnacles

Postby HES » Thu Aug 30, 2018 12:23 am UTC

Flashing amber is a unique case at Pelican crossings, though (you can go, unless there are still pedestrians in the road). All other traffic lights including other types of crossing have the red+amber "put your manual transmission car in gear now" phase.
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Re: Blistering blue barnacles

Postby Giant Speck » Thu Aug 30, 2018 3:08 am UTC

Here in Tucson, we have an awful combination of "trailing left arrows" and two left-turn lanes at many major intersections.

The result is that several cars will hang out in the middle of the intersection for a good portion of the green cycle. The forward moving, non-turning traffic is usually heavy enough that by the time the green cycle ends and the left turn arrow appears, only a couple extra cars manage to get through the intersection.

If you're in the rightmost turn lane, it's almost impossible to see the oncoming traffic, but people still hang out in the middle of the intersection anyway and drivers behind you will try to nudge you out into the intersection because not being able to see the ongoing traffic is apparently the same thing as being too slow.

Another downside of this system is that the green left-turn arrow only appears if there is someone actually in the turn lane behind the white line. If all of the cars waiting to turn are hanging out into the intersection, then there aren't any cars to trigger the light change after the green cycle ends, so you end up with several cars making a turn on a red light. Additionally, there will be cars that will try to speed up to an intersection as the green cycle is ending for forward-moving traffic and will attempt a left turn without actually triggering the green left-turn arrow and will sometimes get into a major accident in the middle of the intersection.
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Re: Blistering blue barnacles

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Postby somitomi » Thu Aug 30, 2018 8:54 pm UTC

Pfhorrest wrote:Some intersections have protected left-hand turns. Whether or not you may turn is indicated by a traffic light in the shape of an arrow pointing left.

A red arrow means you can't turn now. It's a right light, applied only to the left turn.

No arrow means your turn is not protected, but you may turn according to normal right-of-law rules (e.g. if the main light is green, and after yielding to cross traffic, etc).

A green arrow means you may turn, and you have the right of way; your turn is protected.

Like normal green lights, green arrows become yellow when they're about to go away; either to no arrow, or to a red arrow.

Apparently in some places, those yellow arrows now flash.

Presumably to draw still further attention to the fact that in a moment other people will have the right-of-way through where you might presently be turning.

I know of protected turns and traffic lights specific to certain turns/lanes, but flashing yellow never occurs in the traffic light cycle here. Presumably because flashing yellow on a traffic light means it's off and right-of-way is decided by stop/yield signs. This usually happens at night (when the traffic light would unnecessarily hold up what little traffic there is) or when some fault prevents normal operation. Sometimes they're switched to flashing yellow if a police officer controls traffic although police officers automatically take precedence over traffic lights anyway.
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Re: Blistering blue barnacles

Postby pseudoidiot » Thu Aug 30, 2018 9:02 pm UTC

Everywhere flashing left-turn yellow arrows have been implemented here have been at intersections where previously the traffic signal either gave you a red light or a green arrow. So you could only turn when you had the green arrow. Never mind if there's absolutely no traffic coming from the opposite direction, you get to sit there and stare at the red light.

But now a number of those have been changed to include a blinking yellow arrow for when traffic in both directions have a green light to go straight. So, you yield to oncoming traffic and turn when/if you can. I've found it to be a huge improvement.
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Re: Blistering blue barnacles

Postby Pfhorrest » Thu Aug 30, 2018 9:43 pm UTC

somitomi wrote:I know of protected turns and traffic lights specific to certain turns/lanes, but flashing yellow never occurs in the traffic light cycle here. Presumably because flashing yellow on a traffic light means it's off and right-of-way is decided by stop/yield signs. This usually happens at night (when the traffic light would unnecessarily hold up what little traffic there is) or when some fault prevents normal operation. Sometimes they're switched to flashing yellow if a police officer controls traffic although police officers automatically take precedence over traffic lights anyway.

I'm pretty sure it's flashing red that means "treat this like a stop sign", and flashing yellow just means "hey pay attention use caution here". At least where I am (California).
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Re: Blistering blue barnacles

Postby Flumble » Fri Aug 31, 2018 3:10 am UTC

I fucking despise win10. I just installed this month's security update (I finally got windows to fuck off with its automatic updates by disabling the automatic update scans) and rebooted the computer as required. After that, all services seemed to be running and winupdate wasn't complaining about anything. Then, according to the logs I have, it crashes out of the blue at midnight. I haven't noticed any power outage, and yet there are 0 log entries (except SYSTEM logon events) shortly before midnight.

I'm going to eat my hat if I haven't switched this computer to linux by the end of September.

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Postby somitomi » Fri Aug 31, 2018 2:15 pm UTC

pseudoidiot wrote:Everywhere flashing left-turn yellow arrows have been implemented here have been at intersections where previously the traffic signal either gave you a red light or a green arrow. So you could only turn when you had the green arrow. Never mind if there's absolutely no traffic coming from the opposite direction, you get to sit there and stare at the red light.

But now a number of those have been changed to include a blinking yellow arrow for when traffic in both directions have a green light to go straight. So, you yield to oncoming traffic and turn when/if you can. I've found it to be a huge improvement.

That kind of makes sense, although this sort of thing is done way differently here.
Pfhorrest wrote:I'm pretty sure it's flashing red that means "treat this like a stop sign", and flashing yellow just means "hey pay attention use caution here". At least where I am (California).

I guess I forgot to clarify I am in Hungary so whatever I say has no bearing on what US traffic lights do. I was just curious because like most people, I tend to assume traffic lights are so universal they work exactly the same way everywhere. For the record, flashing red never appears on traffic lights here. The flashing yellow kin is generally a warning here as well and some dangerous locations (pedestrian crossing on a busy road, where a cycle path or tram tracks cross the street and such) are marked with flashing yellow lights too. It's just that traffic code says "obey signs if traffic light doesn't work (either dark or flashing yellow)", so on a traffic light it might as well say "see signs".
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Re: Blistering blue barnacles

Postby Sableagle » Fri Aug 31, 2018 10:50 pm UTC

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Alright, I'm getting to use almost-abode-pictureshop for free, and it's great and it does wonderful things but ...

Well, "but I can't get the tool options window to dock with the toolbox window, dammit," but ...

I've been putting together panoramic images from multiple pictures. Sometimes, when I open the resultant image to trim it down to something neater and scale it to 1080 pixels high, GIMP decides that it just wouldn't be right to open it at a low zoom level *or* add scroll bars to the image window, and expands the image window off the side of my screen, which is really getting aggravating. I keep having to drag the left side of the window to the right, drag the window to the left and drag the right side back to the edge of the screen.
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Re: Blistering blue barnacles

Postby New User » Sat Sep 01, 2018 1:28 am UTC

I have a similar problem with VLC player.

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Re: Blistering blue barnacles

Postby Sableagle » Sat Sep 01, 2018 11:05 pm UTC

Photobucket ... again. About 9% of uploads fail, and there's no "try again" button and the failures get a pop-up each, so when you attempt a 100-image upload you get a lot of pop-ups. You can either wait for it to finish then go through them, noting the numbers, and try to upload just those ones again or watch it uploading and keep trying again on each one as the pop-ups appear.

Watch ... click "OK" ... click "choose files" ... scroll down ... double-click file ... watch ... click "OK" ... click "choose files" ... scroll down ... double-click file ... watch ... click "OK" ... click "choose files" ... scroll down ... double-click file ... watch ... click "OK" ... click "choose files" ... scroll down ... double-click file ... watch ... click "OK" ... click "Upload" ... swear ... click back arrow ... swear ... click back arrow ... swear ... click forwards arrow ... swear ... commence going through the whole album, making a list of all the files that did upload, so I know which ones to upload now that I've accidentally cancelled the ones that hadn't finished yet.

I suppose I could just upload the lot again and remove the duplicates ... :evil:
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Re: Blistering blue barnacles

Postby cephalopod9 » Sun Sep 02, 2018 10:37 am UTC

I had insomnia last night, and got about four hours of sleep, not at night, and then I drank too much cold brew! that was hours ago, and i'm still borderline crawling out of my skin.
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Giant Speck wrote:If you're in the rightmost turn lane, it's almost impossible to see the oncoming traffic, but people still hang out in the middle of the intersection anyway and drivers behind you will try to nudge you out into the intersection because not being able to see the ongoing traffic is apparently the same thing as being too slow.
I feel like Arizona drivers have been getting more aggressive. I want to blame California, where they merge like a Fast n the Furious stunt, and all the Californians in a hurry to get to the store where they can bitch about their state's plastic bag ban while their plastic jug of milk is put into a plastic bag in another plastic bag.

Immediately after the terrible left hand turn, on my like comically short commute, there's a free way off ramp, that really should be no right on red. Instead it's just an ongoing game of chicken between my faith that other drivers are doing what they're supposed to, and some SUV's need to be right up in the intersection from the middle lane.
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Re: Blistering blue barnacles

Postby Sableagle » Sun Sep 02, 2018 11:06 am UTC

cephalopod9 wrote:I don't know what my point is, but everything is bad, and I'm bothered by it.
That would be a heck of a thing to post just before going on holiday without telling anyone where you were going.
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Postby SecondTalon » Sun Sep 02, 2018 10:49 pm UTC

cephalopod9 wrote:I'm watching ... hbomberguy talk about speedrunning and I'm weirdly pissed off about Ready Player One. It's bad. It's so dated and out of touch with video games and internet communities and how anything works. It was written in 2011. Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny is 6 years older.
Half Life: Full Life Consequences is from 2006. Also, I'm just low level freaked out over relating internet things to any kind of real life context. A month or two ago, I saw a woman who was maybe mid forties - early fifties wearing a shirt with Ugandan Knuckles printed on it. The shirt looked like it could have been 15 years old. I don't know what my point is, but everything is bad, and I'm bothered by it.


Whenever I hear news stories about what The Kids are doing these days, I pretty much just assume they're all five years out of date. For example, The Kids apparently spend all their time on Snapchat and Instagram.

Snapchat is from 2011, Instagram 2010. There's no fuckin' way The Kids are using 7-8 year old applications to talk to each other. That's got to be what they just say they're using because they're laughably out of date.
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Re: Blistering blue barnacles

Postby addams » Mon Sep 03, 2018 3:13 am UTC

Sableagle wrote:Ordered 2m of velvet.

Got a piece of velvet that may just about have been 2m long along each side, but wasn't rectangular.

Cut out most of the pieces I need.

Stuff is a nightmare, shifting and skewing and wrinkling and stretching and curling over on itself.
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Got around to trying to mark out the last bits of it I need.

1) I don't have 80cm left, more like 60cm, and I didn't throw away 20cm at the other end of the piece when I started.

2) I cut out all those pieces upside down. Velvet has a direction. It ought to be smooth when you run a hand down it and rough when you run a hand up it. This piece is going to be made the other way. Oops.

I guess I have to do the next pieces sideways so they'll be smooth medial-lateral and rough lateral-medial (on the front, smooth dorsal-ventral and rough ventral-dorsal on the medial, smooth ventral-dorsal and rough dorsal-ventral on the lateral and ... yeah).
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Re: Blistering blue barnacles

Postby cephalopod9 » Wed Sep 05, 2018 8:31 am UTC

SecondTalon wrote:Whenever I hear news stories about what The Kids are doing these days, I pretty much just assume they're all five years out of date. For example, The Kids apparently spend all their time on Snapchat and Instagram.

Snapchat is from 2011, Instagram 2010. There's no fuckin' way The Kids are using 7-8 year old applications to talk to each other. That's got to be what they just say they're using because they're laughably out of date.
RPO i have specific contempt for because it has all this superficial enthusiasm for nerd stuff, but no curiosity or interest in any depth.
wait, I probably made it seem more culturally relevant than it is, because my overly caffeinated mess of a brain kept losing my train of thought. Those memes aren't related to the book, they were meant to be examples of things i think are much better and more relevant to present day internet. RPO basically treats internet culture like a fantasy hypothetical the author just thought of, and the plot is "I'm so good at Joust and Dig-dug I should have all of the money" and "the best video game I can imagine is The Entirety of Back to the Future word for word, but I get to be Micheal J Fox".
I was also just thinking about old memes, and found the Gary's Mod video of Full Life Consequences on youtube from 10 years ago with 5 million views, which are numbers beyond what my mind can process. Honestly tho', It is a more interesting and engaging exploration of games and popculture as concepts than the shallow, obsessive memorization that some how got to be made into a Spielberg movie.

...I don't think I ever learned what Snapchat is about. i think I get the basic idea, but I don't understand why celebrity personalities or sports teams are on there. There's times I'm reading twitter, and I'm right on the edge of where I can relate words to their intended meanings. That's about 60% keeping up with the times and 40% this political climate we are in, where it's possible to read 3 or 4 paragraphs into someone's strongly worded thoughts on a topic without any sense of whether they're for or against. I'd try and come up with good examples, but I don't want to get all up in the politics, and the fringe political divides keep splitting further into absolute everything. There's all these politically charged up Opinions on video games, movies, even Frickin' SHoes and what Athletic Wear the looney-birds are cutting the logos off of. God, what if this is our new normal.

there was a commercial, for snack cheeses or something, with a narrator voice talking to an actress about how hard it is to keep up with "what millennials are saying", but the actress is maybe 32, at the most. Y'know, someone who came of age in the '90's and is solidly in the Millenial age range.

...On the complete opposite side of things On the Media did an episode about Twitch streaming and you get to hear NPR voices describe what Fortnite is. It's fantastic

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Postby Pfhorrest » Wed Sep 05, 2018 3:11 pm UTC

fun fact: as of this year all millennials are adults and no children are millennials.
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Postby SecondTalon » Thu Sep 06, 2018 2:49 am UTC

cephalopod9 wrote:RPO i have specific contempt for because it has all this superficial enthusiasm for nerd stuff, but no curiosity or interest in any depth.
....

Just the film, or the book too? Because the book was aimed squarely at a very particular audience - and a pre-Gamer Gate one too. It lacks depth because it comes from the stance that with just a word, you understand the pages of meaning the author intended. It’s Darmok and Jelad:The Novel for men with “nerdish” tendencies born between 1968 and 1982.

As for Snapchat - it fills the same niche that Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous or MTV Cribs filled - a “candid” look at a celebrity’s life using the current medium.

Otherwise it’s just for disposable pictures not worth saving to your phone and/or autobiographic pornography.
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Postby Pfhorrest » Thu Sep 06, 2018 3:30 am UTC

SecondTalon wrote:It’s Darmok and Jelad:The Novel

I love that this is in itself an example of the thing it's describing.
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Re: Blistering blue barnacles

Postby Yakk » Thu Sep 06, 2018 5:11 pm UTC

Pfhorrest wrote:
SecondTalon wrote:It’s Darmok and Jelad:The Novel

I love that this is in itself an example of the thing it's describing.

Darmok and Jelad write a book.
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Re: Blistering blue barnacles

Postby cephalopod9 » Fri Sep 07, 2018 11:41 am UTC

SecondTalon wrote:It’s Darmok and Jelad:The Novel
To be that, it needs to connect those references with emotional or narrative substance. Reading the book, I didn't even feel rewarded for recognizing the material being referenced, and while I haven't seen the movie, I have seen that they replaced Ultra Man with The Iron Giant as the big robot that shoots everyone, which is an egregious mis-use of every feeling connected to that character. I'm vageuly aware Max Headroom... was a thing? , and phone phreaking has a fascinating history I learned about in some detail*, and both references just felt like "Hey, 'member that thing?"
I don't especially dislike "Hey, 'member that thing?", it's good for a music video, but it doesn't constitute a plot. For most of the "puzzles" there's not even the joy of discovery, it's just "I know the thing! and I can push the buttons the best!"
...I just realized how much it reminds me of one of the dumbest things I ever heard said which was
Myst is really easy. Once you know how to do it, it only takes like 30 minutes to play through


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Re: Blistering blue barnacles

Postby SecondTalon » Fri Sep 07, 2018 1:09 pm UTC

I’ve seen someone, in person, say the same thing about those wooden puzzles. “Oh, once you figure out the order to slide the pieces, it’s easy”

No fucking shit.
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Postby Kewangji » Sat Sep 08, 2018 11:28 pm UTC

Man I wonder if I'm clever* enough to actually beat a Myst game now. I should try.

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Re: Blistering blue barnacles

Postby Pfhorrest » Mon Sep 10, 2018 2:47 am UTC

HGTV and all its flipper shows and such is disgusting bullshit turning a desperate matter of life and death into flippant entertainment for rich baby boomer housewives who never had to struggle a day of their fucking lives
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Re: Blistering blue barnacles

Postby Zohar » Mon Sep 10, 2018 2:08 pm UTC

Why are flipping shows showing desperate matters of life and death? I'm not sure I'm following you.
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Postby Pfhorrest » Mon Sep 10, 2018 4:36 pm UTC

Housing is a desperate matter of life and death and HGTV makes game shows out of rich people playing with it for the entertainment of other rich people.
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Re: Blistering blue barnacles

Postby Zohar » Mon Sep 10, 2018 4:41 pm UTC

I highly doubt most people who watch HGTV are rich. Also while it's a critical issue, of course, for most people it's not life and death. Do you feel the same about cooking shows?
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Postby Pfhorrest » Mon Sep 10, 2018 5:17 pm UTC

Lack of food isn’t nearly as big an issue as lack of housing (as in it’s less widespread and much more easily overcome), and cooking shows aren’t all about “look at HOW MUCH MONEY I spent on food!” but just about food that tastes good, while HGTV shows are almost entirely about the money.

If it was just about nice ways to decorate your home or garden I’d have no objection, but every fucking thing I ever see on there is “I spent more money than most people will ever see in a lifetime and got twice as much back in a month! I win the gameshow lol this was fun” with no appreciation at all of the gravity of the matters they’re treating so frivolously.
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