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Postby Durandal » Tue May 20, 2008 7:31 pm UTC

Simply put, iTunes on Windows is terrible. It takes forever to load, everything is choppy, and (worst of all, IMO) they started sneaking Safari into the update process, which means if anyone else but me is using the computer when the update hits, they won't know to opt-out and keep from installing that useless piece of (%$&#ing) software. Plus, you have to keep QuickTime around if you use iTunes. Blarg.

So, I switched to WinAmp. I was told it was superior. Cue the endless list of apps idling in the system tray (what does WinAmp Agent even do, anyway?), the most atrocious update process I've ever seen, and a pile of features that I will never, ever use. UNINSTALL.

Then, I took a short foray into Windows Media Player. I won't elaborate.

So, I am now looking for a media player that accomplishes all (or at least most) of the following goals:

- nice, minimalist design without resource-hogging features I don't need
- plays music, with a good interface
- plays movies (ability to play DVDs a plus)
- syncs with iPod*

*if not a feature, are there any standalone programs designed to do that specifically?
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Re: WANTED: Media Player that isn't Le Sucke

Postby SecondTalon » Tue May 20, 2008 7:34 pm UTC

I use winamp and VLC for what Winamp won't play. Sure, you have to customize Winamp.. by doing things like turning off the agent and telling it to never goddamn update, but other than that, it works great.

So, VLC, maybe?
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Re: WANTED: Media Player that isn't Le Sucke

Postby segmentation fault » Tue May 20, 2008 7:37 pm UTC

Durandal wrote:So, I switched to WinAmp. I was told it was superior. Cue the endless list of apps idling in the system tray (what does WinAmp Agent even do, anyway?), the most atrocious update process I've ever seen, and a pile of features that I will never, ever use. UNINSTALL.


im going to recommend old school winamp 3. you probably downloaded one of the shittier new versions.
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Postby Mo0man » Tue May 20, 2008 7:39 pm UTC

For Music: Musikcube, Foobar, Mediamonkey.
Mediamonkey is good for organizing your music library if it isn't already organized. It will sync iPods as far as I know. Layout sucks mostly, but I've gotten used to it. This is the one I use ATM
Musikcube is really minimal, but it's got a similar layout to iTunes.
Foobar... errr actually, I don't really know much about it except it was pretty good at playing music.
I guess if you're switching out from iTunes, I'd recommend musikcube

None of these play videos, usually I use Media Player Classic, or VLC for that

http://www.musikcube.com/
http://www.foobar2000.org/
http://www.mediamonkey.com/

http://sourceforge.net/projects/guliverkli/ (for MLC)
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Re: WANTED: Media Player that isn't Le Sucke

Postby Teh Russians » Tue May 20, 2008 7:50 pm UTC

I use GOM player. It plays basically everything. It's also very small and fast.
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Re: WANTED: Media Player that isn't Le Sucke

Postby Mensch » Tue May 20, 2008 8:23 pm UTC

Ehh. Winamp's been treating me fine, it handles tons of file types and synchs with iPod (I think), though I wouldn't recommend it if you don't have much memory. I suggest going in and taking out most of the apps you don't need, and getting a skin to slim it down, but if you don't ,mind (or want) extreme minimalism, I'm gonna agree with mo0man on foobar. Did a quick google search and apparently there's an app that lets you play video on it now? (look up 'video on foobar')

Hopes that helps at least a bit!

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Re: WANTED: Media Player that isn't Le Sucke

Postby wing » Tue May 20, 2008 10:26 pm UTC

Winamp is good, actually. Shut off agent, shut off updates, and utilize the media library. All those other features are safely ignorable.

(Winamp agent is just a quick launch chillin' in your systemtray, held over from the days of Win98 when the quicklaunch tray wasn't enabled by default. If Winamp itself is also putting an icon down there, there's an option to turn it off, but I don't recall that ever being the default)



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Re: WANTED: Media Player that isn't Le Sucke

Postby quintopia » Tue May 20, 2008 10:42 pm UTC

they moved safari to a "new software" header in the itunes updater, so you shouldn't have that problem any more. also, why wouldn't you want to keep quicktime around? it's better interface to .mov in a browser than anything else. also, i've never experienced choppiness or long loading times with itunes, even though i did experience long loading times with winamp 3 on an older computer. . .so i think that's just your computer.

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Postby Ended » Tue May 20, 2008 10:51 pm UTC

I'd recommend Winamp with the Classic skin. It does have its flaws, and requires some customisation to get full use out of it. I like it because it's customisable, memory-efficient (with the classic skin rather than the atrocious Modern ones) and has an excellent media library facility. It does play video but I use VLC for that.

Mensch wrote:Ehh. Winamp's been treating me fine, it handles tons of file types and synchs with iPod (I think), though I wouldn't recommend it if you don't have much memory.

When I use the classic skin and minimise it to the task bar, it only uses around 2-5MB.
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Postby Shizo » Tue May 20, 2008 10:54 pm UTC

Teh Russians wrote:I use GOM player. It plays basically everything. It's also very small and fast.



This. GOM is awesome.
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Re: WANTED: Media Player that isn't Le Sucke

Postby Avram » Tue May 20, 2008 11:05 pm UTC

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Postby semicolon » Tue May 20, 2008 11:14 pm UTC

foobar for music, mplayerc or vlc for movies

foobar's great, if i want to change the song i just hit ctrl+alt+f (my global hotkey to bring up/minimize the foobar window), ctrl+f (to bring up the find dialogue), the name of the song, enter, ctrl+alt+f. and ctrl+alt+z, x and c are pause/play, previous and next. and they all work in any application.

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Postby tryptanymph » Tue May 20, 2008 11:29 pm UTC

I got annoyed with foobar. No matter how I set the EQ, the bass would be too overpowering, and affect other parts of the music. Annoying.

iTunes works for me. Loads in a nice time, syncs to my iPod, no stuttering or anything.
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Re: WANTED: Media Player that isn't Le Sucke

Postby timt » Tue May 20, 2008 11:34 pm UTC

I use mpc (media player classic) It's the only audio/video program i have on this computer as it supports every format i've every come across. It's approximately under a megabyte and does not require installation. It's library features is a bit lacking but i usually just drag and drop folders onto it i want to listen to. If you do get it be sure to get the cccp (complete community codec pack) which contains the codecs for most formats you'll come across. Other than that i used to use foobar (doesn't play video though so you'll still need another program for that) and it seemed quiet reasonable.

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Postby '; DROP DATABASE;-- » Tue May 20, 2008 11:38 pm UTC

Winamp was superior until AOL bought it, since then they've been bundling it with more and more crap and I doubt it's long until it becomes spyware if it isn't already. I switched to XMPlay, it was great; supports all Winamp input plugins, easily skinnable (no SDK crap). Now that I run Linux I use Amarok, which unfortunately doesn't support some of the obscure file types I used, but works great for most. For video I used VLC for the longest time and had nothing but problems with it, then switched to MPlayer and loved it (and still do, as it's cross-platform).

tl;dr: XMPlay for music, MPlayer for video, Amarok for music on Linux.
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Postby Amnesiasoft » Wed May 21, 2008 1:16 am UTC

You sure you don't have spyware or adware running in the background? Because I've not seen a problem with iTunes being slow to load or stuttering. You can also get Multiplugin for iTunes to allow skinning, and reduced memory usage when minimized to the tray, along with other features, but those are the only ones I actually care about.

Otherwise, I second the VLC reccomendation.

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Postby Avram » Wed May 21, 2008 1:46 am UTC

Winamp2 was good stuff, IIRC

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Postby dream_noir » Wed May 21, 2008 2:31 am UTC

I like winamp for music. They came out with a few awful awful versions but I like the new one. As long as you turn off all the extra crap and the agent it is tiny and the newest skin is nice. It uses about.. 12mb of memory.. when minimized so you really can't complain about that.

For videos I used to use Media Player Classic. If you download quicktime/real/xvid/divx codecs I've never come across a video it won't play. Since I can't figure out how to get WMP off this computer completely I decided to just use it. As long as you pick a skin that doesn't take up the whole screen it works just like MPC and I haven't noticed it slowing things down significantly.

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Postby Indon » Wed May 21, 2008 3:07 am UTC

segmentation fault wrote:im going to recommend old school winamp 3. you probably downloaded one of the shittier new versions.


Fonkey wrote:Winamp2 was good stuff, IIRC


BAM. http://www.oldapps.com/winamp.htm

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Postby JayDee » Wed May 21, 2008 3:50 am UTC

'; DROP DATABASE;-- wrote:tl;dr: XMPlay for music, MPlayer for video, Amarok for music on Linux.
I can second these. I use both XMPlay and MPlayer Portable off my usb drive at uni. They play most anything and are plenty minimalistic. For syncing with an iPod I wouldn't have a clue, and I wouldn't be surprised if that has to be done with iTunes.
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Re: WANTED: Media Player that isn't Le Sucke

Postby wing » Wed May 21, 2008 4:26 am UTC

quintopia wrote:they moved safari to a "new software" header in the itunes updater, so you shouldn't have that problem any more.

It's under a different header, but it's still automatically checked off.

Halfway to fixing the problem.
(as an aside, the Safari update thing managed to double Safari on Windows' marketshare... to like .13%)
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Postby Jack Saladin » Wed May 21, 2008 4:27 am UTC

I have several dozen thousand songs, and Windows Media Player 11 is the only software I've ever seen that can even begin to organise and display them all usefully. I guess if you just listen to a CDs worth of music at a time or something, or are one of those "shuffle" heathens, you could use something else, but for me WMP has no competition.

That's for music, of course. For video, a combination of Media Player Classic+CCCP and VLC Player handles everything in the known universe.

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Postby the_bandersnatch » Wed May 21, 2008 9:28 am UTC

I don't see what's wrong with WMP, IMO it's far superior to the god-awful iTunes. It minimises to a handy toolbar, rips to MP3, organises music in a sensible manner, has a pretty straightforward interface. Having tried WinAmp, I think it's ok but it's really not for me, I only use it every now and again.

For video though, I recommend DivX Player all the way, it's brilliant and all ever use these days (apart from occasionally playing DVDs through WMP).
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Postby Felstaff » Wed May 21, 2008 10:21 am UTC

A relatively unrelated question, but still media-player-centric.

As I despise Windows Meeja Player and all its followers, but love the 'Scope' green-bar visualisation; is there any other media player that does this as well as WMP? All I want is a green line that beats to the music, like a heart monitor. No flashy-swirly Appley crap.

As for sucky media players:
I use iTunes. Not because I like it, but because I was given an iPod, and my WMP library contains the names of 10,000 lost songs which were wiped from a defective HDD (Never buy Maxtor products). Rather than fuck about with it, I left it as a relic that I could look back on as a blueprint whilst I rebirthed my music collection.

Anyway, iTunes eats memory and resources for breakfast, but I like the coverflow system and general aesthetics. I'm always for an aesthetics-leaning balance over functionality anyway. On my old computer, iTunes was clunky and slow, and horribly jarring. Not quite sure what inside the belly of my personal computer had a beef with it, but it just couldn't run smoothly enough to tolerate. Even now it seems to take a noticable time to load up, and is always just a weirdly bugged black screen with writing shadow on it, until I resize it so it goes to normal.

I have winamp3 but rarely use it. I also used BSplayer once. I remember it being quite good, but that's about the extent of my knowledge. VLC is my main go-to for video and non-libraried mp3s.
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Re: WANTED: Media Player that isn't Le Sucke

Postby someguy » Wed May 21, 2008 10:29 am UTC

Felstaff wrote:As I despise Windows Meeja Player and all its followers, but love the 'Scope' green-bar visualisation; is there any other media player that does this as well as WMP? All I want is a green line that beats to the music, like a heart monitor. No flashy-swirly Appley crap.

I haven't used Winamp in a while (I'm not sure I even made it to version 3!) but I seem to remember that if you clicked on the 'screen' in the default view--

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(that WAS the default view at some point) it would cycle through two or three basic visualization modes--I believe they were bars, scope and no vis.

Try it, it may still be there.
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Postby '; DROP DATABASE;-- » Thu May 22, 2008 10:55 am UTC

There were three reasons I stopped using WMP (though this was years ago):
1) Bloat. Specifically, CPU usage. I had a slow machine and it couldn't handle some videos I'd recently picked up. VLC played them fine. With newer versions adding more crap, and newer video codecs requiring more CPU power, I would imagine this is still an issue on modern systems. Also, fancy skins on a video player? Why? You only see them for a second at a time anyway.

2) Unsolicited network traffic. I don't know what it was doing in the background, but I didn't like it.

3) I'd downloaded these porn videos that somehow had a URL embedded, so every time you played them, WMP would open a web page in IE! WTF is that shit? Like (as best I could tell) a feature specifically designed for videos to be able to make a web page open when played. Thinking back to that, I actually hope that was spyware, because for the love of God why would such a feature exist otherwise?

IIRC, that was WMP8; I'd "upgraded" to 9 at some point and it hosed the system, requiring a reinstall. O_o Dunno what it did, I didn't know my way around Windows all that well back then.

Anyway, tl;dr: WMP is bloated and last I checked had some phenomenally stupid features/potential security flaws.

(Granted, though, WMP and Xbox 360 have fucking awesome visualizations.)
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Postby Jack Saladin » Thu May 22, 2008 11:07 am UTC

WMP11 is like no other player ever made, including previous versions of WMP. Make sure you use that version before knocking it.

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Postby peter » Thu May 22, 2008 11:26 am UTC

Fearbears?! wrote:WMP11 is like no other player ever made, including previous versions of WMP. Make sure you use that version before knocking it.

Is that the version that comes with Vista? If so, you might want to also try WMC (Windows Media Center). I don't know if the technology is any different, but I feel it plays my videos at a much smoother pace than WMP.

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Postby Durinthal » Thu May 22, 2008 1:11 pm UTC

I'll give another endorsement of foobar. It's about as lightweight as you can get while still having most (if not all) of the features of the standard music player.

Global hotkeys are fun, too. I use ctrl+alt+(something on the number pad) for switching between songs, pausing/starting, jumping forward and back in the current song, and volume control.

I also use Media Player Classic for watching videos and haven't had an issue.

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Postby Spoom » Thu May 22, 2008 2:06 pm UTC

wing wrote:Now, if you want difficulty in finding a good media player, go talk to a Linux user. Jesus tittiefucking christ is it tough.

Audacious. It's Winamp for Linux, srsly.
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Postby saxmaniac1987 » Thu May 22, 2008 2:19 pm UTC

I really wish I could find something with a library function as complete and organized as Windows Media Player. I really am a fan of the idea that whatever you're listening to is considered a running 'playlist,' and you can change the order of, for example, what your next song will be in a much simpler fashion than iTunes. I've always been rather dissatisfied with Winamp's library. It's no fun to just skim a huge list of artists... having the covers is rather nice...
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Postby Toeofdoom » Thu May 22, 2008 2:38 pm UTC

I wish I could find a media player that supported auto-playlists that could be populated via SQL select queries. As well as working correctly with all the music file formats I want and last.fm. Also it would be nice if I could bind keys on my mouse (VX revolution, automatically works with WMP) to next/previous song.

If anyone knows of one of these then please tell me :P
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Postby d3adf001 » Thu May 22, 2008 2:39 pm UTC

as soon as amarok2 is stable try that. amarok1.4 kicks more ass than any player ive used

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Postby villadelfia » Thu May 22, 2008 2:48 pm UTC

I personally use Foobar200 for music and mediaplayer classic (the version included in the combined community codec pack, best codec pack ever) for video/dvd. That codec pack was designed with anime in mind, but it works just as good for everything else.

VLC has godawful color rendering and an outdated subtitle renderer, avoid at all costs.

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Postby Amnesiasoft » Thu May 22, 2008 2:49 pm UTC

Toeofdoom wrote:I wish I could find a media player that supported auto-playlists that could be populated via SQL select queries. As well as working correctly with all the music file formats I want and last.fm. Also it would be nice if I could bind keys on my mouse (VX revolution, automatically works with WMP) to next/previous song.

Isn't that basically iTunes except for the mouse part? It has smart playlists that you can set up filters for, it supports any file format Quicktime supports, and you can get support for quite a few formats added into quicktime, and it has a last.fm plugin.

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Re: WANTED: Media Player that isn't Le Sucke

Postby wst » Thu May 22, 2008 3:16 pm UTC

I use WinAmp, but I did need to configure it a bit and stop it running some crap.
I got fed up with iTunes when I found out about ipodhelper.exe and itunesservice.exe running when iTunes was off.

I dislike iPods anyway and will be buying an iRiver one day. Oh well.
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Postby Toeofdoom » Thu May 22, 2008 3:31 pm UTC

Amnesiasoft wrote:
Toeofdoom wrote:I wish I could find a media player that supported auto-playlists that could be populated via SQL select queries. As well as working correctly with all the music file formats I want and last.fm. Also it would be nice if I could bind keys on my mouse (VX revolution, automatically works with WMP) to next/previous song.

Isn't that basically iTunes except for the mouse part? It has smart playlists that you can set up filters for, it supports any file format Quicktime supports, and you can get support for quite a few formats added into quicktime, and it has a last.fm plugin.


Oh, I forgot to mention the part where it has to not suck ;)

And I dont really know what functionality the smart playlists have, WMP11 has them too but they dont let me do everything I want to. I mean, they have to be able to do everything an sql query could do.

Plus there are plenty of other things to hate about iTunes.

I'm surprised tha windows media player only uses 15MB of ram, max, it seems...

Oh, and best music player in general but particularly for visualisations is audiosurf :P
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Postby PatrickRsGhost » Thu May 22, 2008 3:36 pm UTC

For transferring files from PC to portable meeja player:

One thing I like about my mp3 player (Dell DJ) is while it came with Musicmatch (I've had some bad experiences with that in the past), I didn't install it. I did install the DJ's drivers, so that when I plug it in to a USB port, the PC recognizes it. It takes a while, but it recognizes it. I may need to reinstall the drivers.

I can then copy (not cut) and paste the mp3 files from my hard drive (usually in the "My Music" folder) to the mp3 player. Depending on how many I'm transferring, and how big the files are, it can take between a few seconds to several minutes. The first time I did it, I had about 400-some mp3s on my computer, and it took I think about 15 to 20 minutes to transfer. And there was a storm brewing. I felt like a mad scientist. LIVE!!! LIVE!!!! LIIIIIIIIIIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BWAH-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

After copying the files to the player, I can then delete them from the computer, thus freeing up precious hard drive space.

I use RealPlayer for the playing and ripping of CDs. One thing I like about it is when you play your CDs or mp3s, if it has the correct information (artist name, track name, track number, album name), it will show the album cover, and constantly show little tidbits of information about the band or artist. This will only occur though if you're connected to the Internet. I've never tried it, but I think you can program a playlist with RealPlayer. I know you can with Windows Media Player. I had a playlist programmed until I got the mp3 player.

I prefer to have my mp3 player set on random play. I know that with a playlist you can control what songs will play after another song. This is especially beneficial if you have two or more songs meant to be played together, like Queen's "We Will Rock You" and "We Are The Champions" or a lot of tracks by Pink Floyd, The Moody Blues, and a couple others. I have an audio editing program that allows me to "pull" music tracks from a CD, and then I can "close the gap" between the songs, fade one song into another, and then export it as an mp3, naming it with all four song titles, or shortened. I can then edit the details of the track (album title, artist, track number, track name) so that when it displays on my mp3 player, it would look something like this:

Happiest Days Of Our Lives/Another Brick In The Wall II
The Wall (Disc 1)
Pink Floyd


It's time-consuming, but this way no matter where it comes up, I know those two songs will play together.

Once in a while my mp3 player will "mess up" (depends on how you look at it), and will play four or five tracks in a row by the same artist. Depending on what's playing, and in what order, it can be totally awesomesauce, or le sucke.
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Re: WANTED: Media Player that isn't Le Sucke

Postby Wyvernlink » Thu May 22, 2008 4:26 pm UTC

CCCP codec pack comes with zoom player and media player classic and will play anything that you can find. It's small and doesn't take a lot of processing power to run.

link: http://www.cccp-project.net/
The site has everything you need to know about getting it running and how it works with other media players. It also has instructions for getting the less common file formats to work.

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Re: WANTED: Media Player that isn't Le Sucke

Postby b.i.o » Thu May 22, 2008 5:12 pm UTC

I use a mix of VLC/Foobar2k/Songbird. Songbird is the only one I haven't seen mentioned here--I don't think it will sync with iPods (yet) but it's an open source project based on the Firefox code base and even though it's still in beta I use it and don't have any problems.


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