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Re: ITT: We make xkcd slightly worse.

Postby abitha » Sun Jul 12, 2009 8:13 pm UTC

Burkitt wrote:
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I like that the letter from the funding body was written in... Comic Sans! Clearly it's better not to receive funding from them, after all.

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Re: ITT: We make xkcd slightly worse.

Postby operator[] » Sun Jul 12, 2009 9:12 pm UTC

After some more investigation, I can find three alternatives for creating a real font:
  • For the Tablet PC versions of Windows, there is a powertoy for this, though I'm not sure if it can handle images.
  • The trial version of Scanahand might work.
  • The open-source program potrace may be used to trace the bitmaps, and then possibly converted to a font somehow.

It is really hard to find free programs for this kind of thing, it seems.

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Re: ITT: We make xkcd slightly worse.

Postby OBrien » Mon Jul 13, 2009 1:13 am UTC

After glancing at the "tools" section of dafont.com (here), this looks like it might help. There's a load of other programs on there too, some may be more helpful than others but, unfortunately, you have to pay for most of them.

I would look properly and make a list of all the ones that would be able to help, ones that might, etc., etc. But I'm pretty tired, so good night!
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Re: ITT: We make xkcd slightly worse.

Postby scikidus » Mon Jul 13, 2009 3:29 am UTC

Alright, Iv'e been tryign to make a font, and here are my findings.

The powertoy download requires a tabler pc, so I can't try that.
The Scanahand builds the font, but I need to pay 75 bucks in order to export it.
I can't figure out how to use potrace, or FontForge for that matter.
The tools on dafont.com aren't free except for that one, which is FontForge.

I'm stuck.
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Re: ITT: We make xkcd slightly worse.

Postby sunami » Mon Jul 13, 2009 4:34 am UTC

Spoiler:
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He just sits there, talking to himself all day, it's a damn shame really.
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Re: ITT: We make xkcd slightly worse.

Postby ThorFluff » Mon Jul 13, 2009 10:03 am UTC

operator[] wrote:
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I laughed hard. I suppose because of the Third square, which only swedes would get i guess.
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Re: ITT: We make xkcd slightly worse.

Postby operator[] » Mon Jul 13, 2009 10:28 am UTC

ThorFluff wrote:
operator[] wrote:
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I laughed hard. I suppose because of the Third square, which only swedes would get i guess.
:D
Du är för dålig för att kasta sten!

Heh. That was actually not at all intentional. :)
The idea was really more of a commentary on how his coin would most probably miss the well, and to create a paradox (is it really a truth?).

scikidus wrote:Alright, Iv'e been tryign to make a font, and here are my findings.

The powertoy download requires a tabler pc, so I can't try that.
The Scanahand builds the font, but I need to pay 75 bucks in order to export it.
I can't figure out how to use potrace, or FontForge for that matter.
The tools on dafont.com aren't free except for that one, which is FontForge.

I'm stuck.


Aww. To further comment of FontForge, I have actually tried it, but the only thing I can get it to do is to show the bitmaps as a background and letting the user manually create the font. The UI is really bad and unhelpful though, so I might have missed an obvious way of actually importing bitmaps.

Potrace is a lot nicer (probably since it follows the Unix philosophy of focusing on one thing), and I have been able to convert the font bitmaps to scalable images (attached is .ps, .eps and .svg versions - potrace also supports .pdf, .xfig, .pgm and .gimppath). Now, what I lack is a way of embedding these as fonts. I'll continue looking.
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Re: ITT: We make xkcd slightly worse.

Postby ThorFluff » Mon Jul 13, 2009 10:43 am UTC

For all you non-swedes let me explain.
There is a LOTR spoof called "Sagan om de utstötta" freely translated to "Lord of the outcasts".
Aragon comments on everything with "Dåligt" which means just "Bad". (Note that in swedish "bad" (Dåligt) does not mean bad as in Evil or bad ass or some such, just Not-Good)
Boromir and Merry are sword fighting. After every clash of blades he says "Bad" *clang* Bad *Clang* Bad!
Then there is the scene where peppin tosses a rock into the water and Aragon taps his shoulder and cautioning says "don't disturb the water".
In this case he instead says " You are too bad to throw rocks" in the same cautioning voice.
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Re: ITT: We make xkcd slightly worse.

Postby lulzfish » Mon Jul 13, 2009 10:58 am UTC

Oh, in the 4th panel.
You Swedes and your 0-indexed numbers.

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Re: ITT: We make xkcd slightly worse.

Postby operator[] » Mon Jul 13, 2009 4:42 pm UTC

Good news everyone!

It turns out FontForge was able to import the created SVG files, which means I have been able to create a real font (attached). It doesn't look at all like my original, but, well, that's what using open-source programs is for. Example:

Spoiler:
test.png

Full instructions:
  • Download FontForge, ImageMagick (or other program for converting images), potrace and of course the original letter images.
  • Convert every image to a BMP using ImageMagick's 'convert' utility:

    Code: Select all

    for A in *.png; do convert $A.png `echo $A|sed 's/.png//'`.bmp; done
  • Run mkbitmap on every .bmp (you might want to read the man page first):

    Code: Select all

    for A in *.bmp; do mkbitmap $A; done
  • For me, some images screwed up due to being read wrongly, so re-save such images in your favorite editing program (Kolourpaint, right?) and run mkbitmap again.
  • Run potrace to convert the created .pbm files to SVG (you might want to read the man page first):

    Code: Select all

    potrace -s *.pbm
  • Open FontForge, and create a new project.
  • Select every character, and use Ctrl+Shift+I to import the corresponding SVG file as a glyph.
  • Use Ctrl+Shift+W and adjust the spacing between 'All' and 'All' to ~35 pixels.
  • If you want to, explore the menus and make appropriate settings/changes.
  • Export as a TTF, and presumably save the project for future modifications.
  • Install the font somehow, such as by moving it to ~/.fonts/ or C:\WINDOWS\Fonts\.

(list recited from memory, might lack some parts)

Late edit: As attachments disappeared, I have reuploaded the font, and cached it here. A cache of the original, C++ script version of the font is here.
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Re: ITT: We make xkcd slightly worse.

Postby Random832 » Mon Jul 13, 2009 5:44 pm UTC

I don't know much about fonts, but I'd guess the space character showing up as a box (at least, it does so on windows) will eventually start to get old.

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Re: ITT: We make xkcd slightly worse.

Postby Zer088 » Mon Jul 13, 2009 6:33 pm UTC

Spoiler:
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Wikipedia is actually an evil organization bent on slowly reducing productivity of the average worker of their competitors. even the Specter organization knows not to mess with them. Or perhaps Specter is a small division of wikipedia O_o
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sources
http://xkcd.com/609/
http://xkcd.com/214/


I'd also like to lay claim to all comics with the word "no", by replacing it with "I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid i can't do that"
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Re: ITT: We make xkcd slightly worse.

Postby m42a » Mon Jul 13, 2009 8:16 pm UTC

Random832 wrote:I don't know much about fonts, but I'd guess the space character showing up as a box (at least, it does so on windows) will eventually start to get old.
I'm on Windows Vista and everything worked fine for me.
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Re: ITT: We make xkcd slightly worse.

Postby operator[] » Mon Jul 13, 2009 8:30 pm UTC

Random832 wrote:I don't know much about fonts, but I'd guess the space character showing up as a box (at least, it does so on windows) will eventually start to get old.

Well, FontForge gave an error when trying to add the space file as a glyph. It worked without it when I tried, so I just silently ignored it. I'll fix it now.

Also, I think it depends on the program, not the OS.

EDIT: Updated the file. Try it again to see if it works.

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Re: ITT: We make xkcd slightly worse.

Postby m42a » Mon Jul 13, 2009 9:11 pm UTC

So, I installed the new font, which was broken, then reinstalled the old font, which was broken, then reinstalled the new font, which was still broken, then reinstalled the old font, which is now fixed. Even though both work fine in OpenOffice. So I don't know what's happening, but I made a handy reference image.
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Re: ITT: We make xkcd slightly worse.

Postby scikidus » Mon Jul 13, 2009 9:51 pm UTC

Congrats operator[], great work. One thing of note: the spaces are still broken, and appear more as tabs (this big: _____) than spaces (this big: _).

Here is my first creation with the font. It was so much easier this way!

Sources: 292, 609
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Fear him. He waits, watching, listening. He terrifies, but he protects.

He's the dial-up raptor.
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Re: ITT: We make xkcd slightly worse.

Postby operator[] » Mon Jul 13, 2009 10:08 pm UTC

m42a wrote:So, I installed the new font, which was broken, then reinstalled the old font, which was broken, then reinstalled the new font, which was still broken, then reinstalled the old font, which is now fixed. Even though both work fine in OpenOffice. So I don't know what's happening, but I made a handy reference image.

<snip>


Err, ok. That's odd. The spacing is quite explainable, since FontForge starts with a default width for characters. I somehow thought it would automatically be corrected, but that does not seem to be the case. Also, Kolourpaint seems to ignore space glyphs entirely, and other programs might do the same depending on options. I think especially office programs might do this, since they have support for different spacing.

Anyway, I have uploaded a third variant, test that one too. It is incorrect, it might actually be easier just to open the provided .sdf file in FontForge to see if you can correct it yourself, then me guessing about errors.

And @scikidus: Good work.

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Re: ITT: We make xkcd slightly worse.

Postby The Scyphozoa » Tue Jul 14, 2009 1:15 am UTC

Zer088 wrote:
Spoiler:
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sources
http://xkcd.com/609/
http://xkcd.com/214/


I'd also like to lay claim to all comics with the word "no", by replacing it with "I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid i can't do that"

I love how he doesn't do anything and just stares at the Wet T-shirt and Lesbianism parts.

Anywho:
Spoiler:
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I have a thing for women with amnesia.
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Re: ITT: We make xkcd slightly worse.

Postby LuNatic » Tue Jul 14, 2009 5:14 am UTC

operator[] wrote:Good news everyone!

It turns out FontForge was able to import the created SVG files, which means I have been able to create a real font (attached). It doesn't look at all like my original, but, well, that's what using open-source programs is for. Example:

Spoiler:
test.png



Hahaha, slightly worse indeed. Wait a minute...
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This is, for some reason, one of the funniest things I've read today.

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Re: ITT: We make xkcd slightly worse.

Postby Squid Tamer » Tue Jul 14, 2009 7:58 am UTC

Here are my new ones. They all suck, but I might as well put them out there.

Spoiler:
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Now to show this to the philosophers.
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Spoiler:
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And I won't do it again.
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Spoiler:
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It's like one of those musicals...
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Not really funny... I just wanted to see what it looks like when all of the dialog is being sung.


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And he was never seen again.
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Re: ITT: We make xkcd slightly worse.

Postby enk » Tue Jul 14, 2009 12:34 pm UTC

Squid Tamer wrote:
Spoiler:
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Not really funny... I just wanted to see what it looks like when all of the dialog is being sung.


I smiled :)

This thread is so full of win that I might just read it again someday :)
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Re: ITT: We make xkcd slightly worse.

Postby Random832 » Tue Jul 14, 2009 4:08 pm UTC

Squid Tamer wrote:Here are my new ones. They all suck, but I might as well put them out there.

Spoiler:
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Thief! :mrgreen:

great minds think alike eh?

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Postby Squid Tamer » Tue Jul 14, 2009 7:16 pm UTC

Random832 wrote:
Squid Tamer wrote:Here are my new ones. They all suck, but I might as well put them out there.

Spoiler:
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Thief! :mrgreen:

great minds think alike eh?


Woah! They're exactly the same! I had forgotten about yours.
Sorry about that! :D :oops:

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Several minutes later all four guys pulled journals out.
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Re: ITT: We make xkcd slightly worse.

Postby philsov » Wed Jul 15, 2009 2:42 pm UTC

I want there to be a way to say you're part of that secret club of people who it's all right to smile at on the metro, something that makes okay those random conversations in a bookstore, something that helps shy people make that secret connection that's nothing more than finding out that someone else is wandering through this world with the same hopes and uncertainties as you.

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Hey, what are the odds -- five xkcd fans on the same train! Must be going to a meet up.


And then I made this one slightly worse with punchline copy/paste!

Spoiler:
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The time and seasons go on, but all the rhymes and reasons are wrong
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Re: ITT: We make xkcd slightly worse.

Postby OBrien » Wed Jul 15, 2009 3:23 pm UTC

Spoiler:
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Alt. text: So I have to get on a bus-replacement service, delaying my journey, then get on a train which will most likely be delayed, then wait on a ridiculously hot train in the middle of a fucking tunnel, 10 meters from the fucking station because the train in front hasn't left yet because it's fucking delayed!

Alt. alt. text: I blame Thatcher for this
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Re: ITT: We make xkcd slightly worse.

Postby Mr Jack » Thu Jul 16, 2009 2:34 am UTC

Spoiler:
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Alt-text: Not to mention "fuck the zero vector." I made that one too.
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Re: ITT: We make xkcd slightly worse.

Postby rnew » Thu Jul 16, 2009 8:27 am UTC

OBrien wrote:
Spoiler:
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True story.
True True story.
Fucking London Underground
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Postby Whelan » Thu Jul 16, 2009 10:13 am UTC

rnew wrote:
OBrien wrote:
Spoiler:
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True story.
True True story.
Fucking London Underground


I was quite lucky, the last time I was on the underground was about a week before this year's 'Summer' so I narrowly avoided dying.
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Re: ITT: We make xkcd slightly worse.

Postby Nemphael » Thu Jul 16, 2009 10:22 am UTC

rnew wrote:
OBrien wrote:
Spoiler:
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True story.
True True story.
Fucking London Underground

Right next to the regular one.

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Re: ITT: We make xkcd slightly worse.

Postby Blinke » Thu Jul 16, 2009 3:09 pm UTC

Sources: 483 and 77.
Spoiler:
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I wish this was real.
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Re: ITT: We make xkcd slightly worse.

Postby asad137 » Thu Jul 16, 2009 10:12 pm UTC

Blinke wrote:Sources: 483 and 77.
Spoiler:
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Win. Best one I've seen in a long time.

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Re: ITT: We make xkcd slightly worse.

Postby Cytoplasm » Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:13 pm UTC

It's a little hard to follow I guess..but I think this is my first one:


Spoiler:
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Yeah..>.<
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598, 146, 308, 566, 515.
¡No tengo miedo a fantasmas!

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<3

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Postby sophyturtle » Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:44 pm UTC

I like it.
I want to get to a place where I am neither conforming nor rebelling but simply being.

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Postby LuNatic » Fri Jul 17, 2009 5:07 am UTC

Blinke wrote:Sources: 483 and 77.
Spoiler:
google_earth.JPG


Truly Epic.
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Velict wrote:Good Jehova, there are cheesegraters on the blagotube!

This is, for some reason, one of the funniest things I've read today.

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Re: ITT: We make xkcd slightly worse.

Postby Cytoplasm » Fri Jul 17, 2009 4:34 pm UTC

sophyturtle wrote:I like it.


thank you ^^!
¡No tengo miedo a fantasmas!

Spoiler:
Cytoplasm: I have catoragized some of my family into lolcats.
Felstaff: For a drudging Thursday afternoon, that level of cuteness has really made my day. Can... Can I keep you?

Felstaff wrote:
Cytoplasm wrote:shannonigans

<3

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Re: ITT: We make xkcd slightly worse.

Postby Ended » Fri Jul 17, 2009 10:31 pm UTC

Source: 610
Spoiler:
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Alternate punchline: In the future, sex is a lot different.
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@operator[]: very nice work on the font!
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Re: ITT: We make xkcd slightly worse.

Postby Mr Jack » Fri Jul 17, 2009 10:54 pm UTC

Ended wrote:Source: 610
Spoiler:
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Love the title-text especially!

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Re: ITT: We make xkcd slightly worse.

Postby DanielR » Mon Jul 20, 2009 6:50 am UTC

Spoiler:
Source: #612
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You're also driving without a license plate, your left rear view mirror is missing, and one of your tires seems to be low on pressure.
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Re: ITT: We make xkcd slightly worse.

Postby BHSPitMonkey » Mon Jul 20, 2009 7:59 am UTC

My first attempt, based on http://xkcd.com/328/. Apologies if the joke's been used already (it probably has).

Spoiler:
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I guess we have something in common!
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