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Re: Today I Learned

Postby Quercus » Tue Jun 02, 2015 7:04 am UTC

Neil_Boekend wrote:
Quercus wrote:
Neil_Boekend wrote:So yeast is less related to animals than fungi?

Yeast is fungi.

Then I need to wake up and reread your post.


Not really your fault - my post was only marginally relevant to the topic (basically the only link was biological misclassification).

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Re: Today I Learned

Postby Pfhorrest » Tue Jun 02, 2015 7:15 am UTC

Quercus wrote:Also, notice how small a part of the eukaryote tree animals, plants and fungi are? The rest are known as protists and they are both awesome and under-appreciated.

I love things like this, showing how tiny a fraction of something the most familiar part of it is.

Like how more than a supermajority of the universe is dark energy, almost all of the rest is dark matter, and most of the tiny sliver left is stars, plus bit of interstellar gas... oh and a few specks of dust here and there containing most of the rest of the periodic table.

Or, as you could probably say better than I could, how most of the branches of the tree of life in general are bacteria and archaea, and as you already said most eukyrota are protists, and the plants and animals (and fungus) most people think of as the highest-level divisions of life are just tiny little twig on the tree of life. Or how even within animalia the tetrapods that come to mind when most people think of animals are themselves a pretty narrow part of that art of the tree.
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby addams » Thu Jun 04, 2015 2:57 am UTC


By following your link, today I learned persimmons are a berry.

Like the tomato, persimmons are not popularly considered to be berries, but in terms of botanical morphology the fruit is in fact a berry.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persimmon
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby almach » Mon Jun 08, 2015 11:51 am UTC

Two more fun facts from Our Inner Fish :

1. Land and water animals have different kinds of odour receptors, because the chemical reactions involved are different. Ancient, jawless fish such as lampreys have smell genes that operate in both air and water, but the receptors diverged later in evolutionary history. (Counter-intuitive, I know.) The end result is that dolphins and whales can't smell, because they're descended from animals that only have the air receptor genes! Their noses have fully transformed into blowholes, and their odour receptor genes become more mutant with each generation. Shubin does not mention the state of affairs wrt amphibians and smell.

2. Rods and cones make up fully 70% of all sensory cells in the human body. Wow!

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Re: Today I Learned

Postby addams » Tue Jun 09, 2015 8:53 am UTC

I saw a lizard of a kind I have never seen before.

It has a lovely blue colored tail.
Today I learned it is common in the US.

Wikipedia says it's called a blue-tailed skink.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plestiodon_fasciatus

It looks like this.
https://www.google.com/search?q=blue+ta ... 1024%3B689

(shrug) This thing is not supposed to be this far west.
For some reason it is here, anyway.

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Re: Today I Learned

Postby almach » Wed Jun 10, 2015 11:23 am UTC

From Foundation by Peter Ackroyd (a history of England):

The original name for Manchester was Mamucio, after the Latin word for a hill shaped like a breast; this was then misread as Mancunio, giving its name to the modern inhabitants of the city.

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Re: Today I Learned

Postby e^iπ+1=0 » Wed Jun 10, 2015 4:23 pm UTC

Of course there's a Latin word for a hill shaped like a breast.
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby almach » Wed Jun 10, 2015 4:26 pm UTC

e^iπ+1=0 wrote:Of course there's a Latin word for a hill shaped like a breast.


The French are even more blatant and literally just name mountains "The Big Titties".

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Re: Today I Learned

Postby SurgicalSteel » Wed Jun 10, 2015 8:41 pm UTC

Mastodons are so called because their teeth look like boobs. I guess.
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Postby Mighty Jalapeno » Wed Jun 10, 2015 8:44 pm UTC

SurgicalSteel wrote:Mastodons are so called because their teeth look like boobs. I guess.

That's a little offensive. Not everyone from Georgia has bad teeth...

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Re: Today I Learned

Postby addams » Wed Jun 10, 2015 9:58 pm UTC

almach wrote:
e^iπ+1=0 wrote:Of course there's a Latin word for a hill shaped like a breast.


The French are even more blatant and literally just name mountains "The Big Titties".

When I was a child, I was told that is what Tetons means.
Today the internet does not back up what I was told.

My head cannot expel the connection instantly.
I liked thinking Tetons meant Titties.

I laughed.
Those mountains look more like teeth than breasts.
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby SurgicalSteel » Wed Jun 10, 2015 10:15 pm UTC

Mighty Jalapeno wrote:
SurgicalSteel wrote:Mastodons are so called because their teeth look like boobs. I guess.

That's a little offensive. Not everyone from Georgia has bad teeth...
I'm so confused by this.
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Postby Mighty Jalapeno » Wed Jun 10, 2015 10:16 pm UTC

Eh, if you Google mastodon, the first result is not the animal.

Mastodon is an American heavy metal band from Atlanta, Georgia...

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Re: Today I Learned

Postby SurgicalSteel » Wed Jun 10, 2015 10:22 pm UTC

Ohh yea. I know Mastodon, I didn't know they were from Georgia though.
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby Deva » Wed Jun 10, 2015 11:43 pm UTC

Learned about Shabbat elevators.
Changes its form depending on the observer.

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Re: Today I Learned

Postby bigglesworth » Thu Jun 11, 2015 8:01 pm UTC

Magnanimous wrote:I read uterus as "urethra"...
Probably not impossible.
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby bachaddict » Fri Jun 12, 2015 7:51 am UTC

Deva wrote:Learned about Shabbat elevators.

That reminds me of an autobiography of a Jew. His breaking point of giving up his piety was trying to go to sleep with the light on on a sabbath. He wrestles with himself but finally turns it off, breaking the sabbath.
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Postby Neil_Boekend » Fri Jun 12, 2015 10:12 am UTC

That should be solvable with a timer switch that you set the day before, or good night vision so you don't have to turn on the light in the first place.
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby bachaddict » Fri Jun 12, 2015 10:44 am UTC

I think the usual solution is a shabbos goy but in his case the guy had gone home already.
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby addams » Fri Jun 12, 2015 6:15 pm UTC

Look what I found.
It's old news...still.
http://www.sciencefriday.com/segment/06 ... pping.html

Interesting?
Or..Infuriating?

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Re: Today I Learned

Postby Djehutynakht » Sat Jun 13, 2015 9:20 am UTC

Today I learned that the 501(c)(3) application form (for US tax-exempt organizations) asks if your organization is controlled by terrorists.

Dang. I was hoping they wouldn't ask.

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Postby Jumble » Sat Jun 13, 2015 4:33 pm UTC

As a frequent visitor to the US, even with a diplomatic visa, I always enjoy the entry questionnaire for non-US citizens. Particularly:
B) Have you ever been arrested or convicted for an offense or crime involving moral turpitude or a violation related to a controlled substance; or have been arrested or convicted for two or more offenses for which the aggregate sentence to confinement was five years or more; or have been a controlled substance trafficker; or are you seeking entry to engage in criminal or immoral activities? YES/NO

C) Have you ever been or are you now involved in espionage or sabotage; or in terrorist activities; or genocide; or between 1933 and 1945 were you involved, in any way, in persecutions associated with Nazi Germany or its allies? YES/NO


I just have this great image of UBL on an inbound flight to JFK saying "curse you and your cunning western ways, you've defeated me!"
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby SurgicalSteel » Sat Jun 13, 2015 9:43 pm UTC

When you apply for a secret security clearance, there's a question on the form that goes something like "Are you now, or have you ever, knowingly been part of a group or organization who's stated goal is the violent overthrow of the United States government."

On a similar note, a friend's husband was recently interviewing for an FBI position, and they asked him "Have you ever been a member of a group that practiced discrimination?" I think the intent is to find out if you've ever been a member of the KKK or Neo-Nazis or NBPP or something. But my friend's husband goes, "Well, I was a Boy Scout when I was a kid." To which the interviewer replied, "Um, well, I guess that does count. I don't think it'll be held against you though."
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby Djehutynakht » Sun Jun 14, 2015 10:04 am UTC

Jumble wrote:C) Have you ever been or are you now involved in espionage or sabotage; or in terrorist activities; or genocide; or between 1933 and 1945 were you involved, in any way, in persecutions associated with Nazi Germany or its allies? YES/NO


I love that they had to go so far as to devote a clause to ask you were specifically, out of all of the horrible things one could be in the world, a Nazi.

I look forward to a news story many years from now pointing out that we forgot and left the Nazi part on the form long after the last possible Nazis have all died.


Although, honestly, generations can take longer to die out than you'd think.


I learned a little bit back (was it on this thread? It could have been) that John Tyler's grandsons are still alive.

John Tyler was the 10th President of the United States, born in 1790 and serving from 1841-45.

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Re: Today I Learned

Postby Carlington » Sun Jun 14, 2015 1:18 pm UTC

TIL that this gif of Elijah Wood saying "Terrific!!" has context, in this video: "The Bunny Museum TV Ad with Elijah Wood" and, as it turns out, The Bunny Museum is real, and located at 1933 Jefferson Drive, Pasadena CA.
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Postby Liri » Mon Jun 15, 2015 12:54 pm UTC

Djehutynakht wrote:Although, honestly, generations can take longer to die out than you'd think.


I learned a little bit back (was it on this thread? It could have been) that John Tyler's grandsons are still alive.

John Tyler was the 10th President of the United States, born in 1790 and serving from 1841-45.

The wackiest thing like that for me is that there's a Daguerreotype of john Quincy Adams. That we have, for all intents and purposes, a *photograph* of someone born before the Revolutionary War (and was the 6th president) is incredible.

I think it just drives home how young the US is. And that 200 years really isn't that long.
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Postby PolakoVoador » Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:06 pm UTC

Jumble wrote:As a frequent visitor to the US, even with a diplomatic visa, I always enjoy the entry questionnaire for non-US citizens. Particularly:
B) Have you ever been arrested or convicted for an offense or crime involving moral turpitude or a violation related to a controlled substance; or have been arrested or convicted for two or more offenses for which the aggregate sentence to confinement was five years or more; or have been a controlled substance trafficker; or are you seeking entry to engage in criminal or immoral activities? YES/NO

C) Have you ever been or are you now involved in espionage or sabotage; or in terrorist activities; or genocide; or between 1933 and 1945 were you involved, in any way, in persecutions associated with Nazi Germany or its allies? YES/NO


I just have this great image of UBL on an inbound flight to JFK saying "curse you and your cunning western ways, you've defeated me!"


Wait, what activities are included under the "immoral" umbrella?

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Re: Today I Learned

Postby Liri » Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:44 pm UTC

Marijuana convictions. I have a Kiwi friend who can't visit the US because of one.
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby Thesh » Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:51 pm UTC

Liri wrote:Marijuana convictions. I have a Kiwi friend who can't visit the US because of one.


That's under the "controlled substances" part, not the "moral turpitude" part.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_turpitude

Apparently a whole host of things, and I still have no clue what exactly makes something a crime of "moral turpitude."
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Postby Liri » Mon Jun 15, 2015 2:31 pm UTC

Ah yep, didn't read clearly. Hah, apparently driving drunk even if you kill someone. I'd say that's moral turpitude but I guess not?
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby tarascon » Mon Jun 15, 2015 2:42 pm UTC

Today I learned how to use a book.

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Postby Echo244 » Mon Jun 15, 2015 7:48 pm UTC

Unstoppable force of nature. That means she/her/hers.
Has committed an act of treason.

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Postby Izawwlgood » Thu Jun 18, 2015 1:48 am UTC

... with gigantic melancholies and gigantic mirth, to tread the jeweled thrones of the Earth under his sandalled feet.

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Re: Today I Learned

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So intersting.
It, kind'a, reminds me of Yucca Mountain.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yucca_Mou ... repository

No. I didn't read every word of the Wikipedia article.
I was There. It was defunded in 2010.

It was like everyone, just, walked out.
Because that is what happened.

Everything was in good order.
And; Covered with a layer of desert dust and sand.

The Repository is Locked Down.
The offices and information buildings are simply deserted.

Deserted in the desert.
It is a eerie place.

We read over and over The Soviet Union collapsed.
What the Hell happened to the US? Glory Days?

EDIT: Today I learned:
In 2011 Congress passed a Law that forbids NASA or any of its employees from working with China on any joint venture.
The US Congress had defunded NASA's weather tracking satellites. It forbids working with the people with the money.

I wonder if that status has changed. Is Congress re-funding nuclear waste and weather tracking?
As of 2011 December, the US will not have late afternoon and evening weather tracking satellites.

The report is old. It's old news.
It came from a reliable source.

What the fuck are they funding??
Trillons of dollars in debt.
Where did the money go?

Even old reports upset me.
I need to go back on a No News Diet!
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby SurgicalSteel » Sat Jun 20, 2015 5:32 am UTC

According to Smithsonian Magazine, there have been over 300,000 books written about Napoleon Bonapart, the equivalent of 4 per day since he died. That's kind of nuts.
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby addams » Sat Jun 20, 2015 2:32 pm UTC

SurgicalSteel wrote:According to Smithsonian Magazine, there have been over 300,000 books written about Napoleon Bonapart, the equivalent of 4 per day since he died. That's kind of nuts.

Yes.
Nuts.

And; To be expected.
We were given a memorable lecture, once upon a time.

The Thesis of that lecture was,
"Your job is to stay Out of the history books!"

Good, kind, intelligent leadership that leads to Peace and quiet prosperity is uninteresting to history writers.
There are enough books about wars to fill several libraries.

WWI and WWII have entire sections.
Hitler has entire rooms filled with books about him and his.

From the outside we fucking Love war.
From the inside, it's like a dog--Too dark to read.

Peace...People that rally for Peace.
Societies that obtain Peace.

well...There are a few books about those people, their time on Earth and the details of what they did and the way they did it.
There are a few books; Not many. Working together, we might be able to fill a respectable sized book shelf with those books.

A dozen or so may even be written or translated into English.
The man that gave that lecture knew, what the fuck, he was talking about.

War will get you into the history books.
Peace might get you a line if it lands you in Jail....maybe.

Many advocates for Peace in the US during the last fifteen years have gone to jail and disappeared.
They don't get so much as line in a book. Their paperwork is often lost. Coincidence?

That, my darling, is depressing shit.
It's also true. We don't want to know.

9/11-2001 and Dicky Boy have a room full of books already.
We will be writing about that shit for generations to come.
Dicky Boy made the History books.

His section will fit nicely with Napoleon, Hitler and all the other interesting Kings and Generals.
While the whisper of the memory of those that opposed him will evaporate.

I have never been a fan of History. I have no talent for it.
I was informed that Napoleon was not, just, a busy guy.

He was several different guys!
Some were blood relatives.

They were cousins.
They shared a grandparent.
Some simply shared a common last name.

One or two adopted the name for advertisement purposes.
The Napoleon public policies seem to have fallen out of favor.

I've been told, Napoleon is still a common and respected ice cream.
In three hundred years, will Dicky Boy Cheney be a common desert?
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby bachaddict » Sat Jun 20, 2015 10:00 pm UTC

SurgicalSteel wrote:According to Smithsonian Magazine, there have been over 300,000 books written about Napoleon Bonapart, the equivalent of 4 per day since he died. That's kind of nuts.

Specifically about him, or mentioning him?
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Postby SurgicalSteel » Sat Jun 20, 2015 10:43 pm UTC

Says about him.

http://imgur.com/o18dBPe
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby addams » Sat Jun 20, 2015 11:45 pm UTC

oh..Gasp.
25% of the world uses Napoleon's Policies.

Gee.
Are those policies that good?
Life is, just, an exchange of electrons; It is up to us to give it meaning.

We are all in The Gutter.
Some of us see The Gutter.
Some of us see The Stars.
by mr. Oscar Wilde.

Those that want to Know; Know.
Those that do not Know; Don't tell them.
They do terrible things to people that Tell Them.


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