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Re: Today I Learned

Postby SurgicalSteel » Sun Jun 21, 2015 2:07 am UTC

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Re: Today I Learned

Postby addams » Sun Jun 21, 2015 3:58 am UTC


And; Apparently aimed for high ideals.
The code forbade privileges based on birth, allowed freedom of religion, and specified that government jobs should go to the most qualified.


Where did I get the idea he was a short giant jerk?
Maybe, that was his cousin.
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby tarascon » Mon Jun 22, 2015 8:20 pm UTC

I work outdoors in Southern California and it's beginning to bake out there so, when I came home from work an hour ago, I shaved my head and I learned that my head looks like the lovechild of an egg and a bowling ball. :lol:
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby addams » Tue Jun 23, 2015 4:01 am UTC

My friend had a sudden bald experience, like that.
She looked like a lightbulb.

Her face was tan and small.
Her head was white and big.

Maybe, she had a drop of Alien blood.
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby addams » Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:47 pm UTC

Today I learned about Fort McMurray in Canada.
Fort McMurray may be the worst thing in Canada.

The rumor is Fort McMurray produces more CO2 than LA, California.
How can that be??

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athabasca ... ouse_gases

The other rumor says it is a visually stunning place; Like the Grand Canyon, US.
https://www.google.com/search?q=oil+san ... 928%3B2741

Well....?
See?
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Postby Mighty Jalapeno » Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:53 pm UTC

I was there last week. It didn't seem that bad.

In unrelated news, everyone there has blue skin...

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Re: Today I Learned

Postby addams » Wed Jun 24, 2015 11:29 pm UTC

Everyone has to be some color.
Blue is good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68ugkg9RePc
YouTube makes it look good.

Were they happy in their blue skin?
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby strake » Sat Jun 27, 2015 6:39 am UTC

addams wrote:Today I learned about Fort McMurray in Canada.


Q: What is the 2nd-largest city in Newfoundland?
A: Fort McMurray, Alberta.

Writing of settlements, TIL in Deutschland is a town called Fuck Mill.

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Re: Today I Learned

Postby bigglesworth » Sat Jun 27, 2015 9:51 am UTC

Liri wrote:I think it just drives home how young the US is. And that 200 years really isn't that long.
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby addams » Sat Jun 27, 2015 10:01 am UTC

That's very funny.
It took me a moment.
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby bachaddict » Sat Jun 27, 2015 9:36 pm UTC

strake wrote:
addams wrote:Today I learned about Fort McMurray in Canada.


Q: What is the 2nd-largest city in Newfoundland?
A: Fort McMurray, Alberta.

Writing of settlements, TIL in Deutschland is a town called Fuck Mill.

Really? I only knew of Fucking, Austria.
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby strake » Sun Jun 28, 2015 5:59 am UTC

I mean it's called Fickmühlen, which actually means Fuck Mill auf Deutsch.

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Re: Today I Learned

Postby bachaddict » Sun Jun 28, 2015 7:08 am UTC

Oh, so it's like Shitterton, or the various Gropecunt Lanes.
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby addams » Sun Jun 28, 2015 7:17 am UTC

The funny names, like Gropecunt Lanes, are not chained....Because?
Is it like the German thing with names?

No changing is the first rule.
No flights of fancy is rule 2.

Gropecunt Lanes....
That's too, too funny.

Have you or anyone you know stolen the sign?
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby Pfhorrest » Wed Jul 01, 2015 6:27 am UTC

TIL that a single thyroid hormone is responsible for triggering all the cells in the body to burn glucose, thereby controlling overall metabolic rate and things like energy levels and weight loss or gain.

Why can't we just prescribe this to people who are overweight? It seems like it's tantamount to "anti-calories": you take some of this and your body just burns off calories extra fast for a while until your natural homeostasis kicks back in again. What's the drawback?
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby Angua » Wed Jul 01, 2015 7:52 am UTC

Presumably you're talking about thyroxine (there isn't a single hormone for burning glucose - adrenaline also helps with that).

Look up hyperthyroidism and thyrotoxicosis. It can kill.
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby addams » Wed Jul 01, 2015 7:55 am UTC

phlip wrote:Relevant list.

TIL Feed Dump is a Time Suck.
That's almost as bad as TV Tropes.
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Postby Quercus » Wed Jul 01, 2015 8:43 am UTC

Angua wrote:Presumably you're talking about thyroxine (there isn't a single hormone for burning glucose - adrenaline also helps with that).

Look up hyperthyroidism and thyrotoxicosis. It can kill.


Yeah, it's the "burning off" that's the problem. Too fast and you get heart problems and hyperthermia. It's a similar problem (with a substantially different cause) to that encountered when using mitochondrial uncoupling drugs to lose weight (which was done in the past). It's very risky.

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Re: Today I Learned

Postby Whizbang » Wed Jul 01, 2015 2:14 pm UTC

What about using an extremely low dose that just sort of speeds things up by 10% or less?

Just curious. A lot of medications come from things that will kill you at higher doses.

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Re: Today I Learned

Postby Angua » Wed Jul 01, 2015 4:27 pm UTC

Not really, because if you give it, then you will just make less of your own to even things out. So you'd basically have to give enough to completely override the functioning of the thyroid, which will a) need lots of monitoring, b) varies widely between individuals, so it's not like you can just prescribe the same dose for everyone, even if they are roughly the same height and weight, c) will probably be open to all sorts of abuse with people taking more than they should be doing, especially if they start getting anxiety about their weight in general (increased anxiety is a common feature of hyperthyroidism) so you're really open to all the side-effects, and, finally, d) by completely overriding the thyroid (see point a) you open yourself up to getting hypothyroidism and myxedema coma when you stop suddenly because you've run out of your thyroid meds (which can also kill).
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby addams » Thu Jul 02, 2015 1:02 am UTC

Listen to the wise woman.
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby BlackSails » Thu Jul 02, 2015 3:01 am UTC

There is actually a new study today on an RCT using a new diabetes medication for weight loss. It appears to be pretty effective compared to placebo, at 1 year.

They however did not compare it to the gold standard of weight loss, which is surgery.

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Re: Today I Learned

Postby addams » Sat Jul 04, 2015 6:10 pm UTC

BlackSails wrote:They however did not compare it to the gold standard of weight loss, which is surgery.

Really?
I thought the Gold Standard of weight loss is carefully controlled intake and expenditure of calories.
I suppose, surgery works.

Is that gold standard of weight loss with or without anesthesia?
Anesthesia is the most dangerous part of many surgeries.
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Postby strake » Sun Jul 05, 2015 6:06 am UTC

addams wrote:I thought the Gold Standard of weight loss is carefully controlled intake and expenditure of calories.
I suppose, surgery works.


Surgery controls intake and expenditure of calories ☺

addams wrote:Is that gold standard of weight loss with or without anesthesia?


Well, how great is your pain tolerance?

To my knowledge it is normally done with anaesthesia.

BlackSails wrote:There is actually a new study today on an RCT using a new diabetes medication for weight loss.


Link, please?

I am curious which medication. I know some studies find metformin or bromocriptine effective for fat loss.

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Re: Today I Learned

Postby bachaddict » Sun Jul 05, 2015 6:47 am UTC

Is the platinum standard for weight loss starvation?
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby addams » Sun Jul 05, 2015 8:27 am UTC

Not to be picky...but,..there is a stage in starvation that causes the victim to retain water.
The person weighs a little more during that stage.

When that stage ends and water is voided...
..That is a very serious medical condition.

On the Up Side weight is lost quickly and often permanently.
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby Angua » Sun Jul 05, 2015 8:53 am UTC

Surgery is extremely effective at losing and maintaining weightloss, as well as halting the progression of, and the reversal of diabetes.

Sadly, it's hard to get the funding for it because people tend to think that it's the easy way out.
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Postby strake » Sun Jul 05, 2015 6:03 pm UTC

Angua wrote:Sadly, it's hard to get the funding for it because people tend to think that it's the easy way out.


You mean it's hard to get funding to study it, or to have it?

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Postby Angua » Sun Jul 05, 2015 9:40 pm UTC

To have it, at least on the NHS (though they finally started funding it for diabetics earlier this year). The studies are out there.
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby addams » Sun Jul 05, 2015 11:05 pm UTC

Angua wrote:Surgery is extremely effective at losing and maintaining weightloss, as well as halting the progression of, and the reversal of diabetes.

Sadly, it's hard to get the funding for it because people tend to think that it's the easy way out.

Oh, yes.
I do.

There are medical reasons to have the surgery.
The patient wants it is good enough for me.

The medical team has the responsibility to weigh the patient's possible gains against the risks.
All surgery has risks.

Weight loss surgery?
There must be at least ten different ones.

What ones are we writing about?
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Postby Angua » Mon Jul 06, 2015 9:35 am UTC

All the gastric ones - gastric banding/sleeves/bypass. You know, the ones done specifically for weightloss?
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Postby bachaddict » Mon Jul 06, 2015 9:37 am UTC

There's also liposuction, which is probably the fastest possible way of losing weight.
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Postby Neil_Boekend » Mon Jul 06, 2015 9:44 am UTC

Or the method portrayed in Seven. You know,
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Postby Quercus » Mon Jul 06, 2015 9:58 am UTC

bachaddict wrote:There's also liposuction, which is probably the fastest possible way of losing weight.


The trouble with liposuction is that it only removes subcutaneous fat, not visceral fat, therefore any health benefits are limited as it's visceral fat that's the bad news as far as health risks (e.g. diabetes) go.

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Postby Angua » Mon Jul 06, 2015 10:06 am UTC

Yeah, liposuction makes your shape better, but not really a weight-loss surgery. It''s generally not used on people who are that overweight - they're a bit overweight, or the weight is not distributed how they'd like.

Google the before and after photos for liposuction vs any of the others, and you'll see the difference in demographic.
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby addams » Tue Jul 07, 2015 2:45 am UTC

There are others.
After profound weight loss,
there is sometimes umm.. leftover tissue.

Is it called, 'flap' surgery?
That one runs the risk of disfigurement.

When done properly, it can be like a reward for some very hard work.
When done wrong...well..it's disfiguring and might drive a person to a bucket of KFC.
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby Djehutynakht » Tue Jul 07, 2015 7:27 am UTC

Today I learned that many Zoroastrians dispose of their dead via a structure called The Tower of Silence.

Amongst Indian Zoroastrians, giving up one's body to the birds is seen as a final act of charity. However, apparently there's a problem nowadays because India's seen a mass die-off of birds of prey due to chemicals and such.


Zoroastrians also utilize Fire Temples as places of worship. We've given their religious structures some awesome names.

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Re: Today I Learned

Postby Djehutynakht » Tue Jul 07, 2015 8:20 am UTC

Hm... I think I just discovered a pretty big loophole in Massachusetts Marriage Laws (I get into weird topics at 4 am).

There are separate sections for who women are not allowed to marry, and who men are not allowed to marry. For women, it's basically father's grandfathers, sons, grandsons, uncles, etc. etc. and men daughters, granddaughters, aunts, mothers, grandmothers, etc. Close incestuous relationships, basically.

However, these laws were created before the legalization of same-sex marriage in 2004. And, so far as I can tell, nobody's bothered to amend them.

But what that means, technically, is that while the law bans heterosexual incestuous marriages, it does not ban homosexual incestuous marriages.


That's an interesting little tidbit of information. No idea what it's useful for, but I love legal loopholes.


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