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Re: Today I Learned

Postby Flumble » Thu Sep 01, 2016 12:19 pm UTC

SecondTalon wrote:Yeah, but it's a general superhero comic discussion in FaiD. Not sure if that counts.

In general, it does, but for me, nah, I'm not really into pokémon. :roll:

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Re: Today I Learned

Postby Zohar » Thu Sep 01, 2016 12:52 pm UTC

Flumble wrote:Today I learned that the Books forum and especially the Comics subforum are incredibly dead. I'd liked to gush over Tamen De Gushi over there and discuss various other webcomics, but it seems no one else would visit that subforum before 2017.

Does FaiD have active (web)comic talk? If so, I might have to sell my soul and join in.

I feel I browse the forum differently from other people (not using egosearch and whatnot), but I and others definitely do notice when stuff gets posted there. In fact I just posted a new thread today.
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby Sableagle » Wed Sep 07, 2016 3:48 pm UTC

Today I learned that those marshmallow-looking things in the lawn edge open up this big:

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Re: Today I Learned

Postby Sableagle » Fri Sep 09, 2016 6:32 pm UTC

TIL that my UPS is FU.
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby ucim » Fri Sep 09, 2016 7:41 pm UTC

Sableagle wrote:TIL that my UPS is FU.
At least you saved a letter. You can put that in your letter bank. Either that, or you can apply for the Nobel Prize with the equation F=PS. I'm sure that's the way it works, right?

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Postby Sableagle » Fri Sep 09, 2016 7:49 pm UTC

Force = Pressure * cross-Sectional area? Didn't we already know that?
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby Flumble » Fri Sep 09, 2016 10:41 pm UTC

ucim wrote:
Sableagle wrote:TIL that my UPS is FU.
At least you saved a letter. You can put that in your letter bank. Either that, or you can apply for the Nobel Prize with the equation F=PS. I'm sure that's the way it works, right?

You can only cancel out U if it's invertible and either the operation is commutative (reals/complex numbers) or U has additional properties (like being a unit, in which case the cancelation is trivial).

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Re: Today I Learned

Postby Sableagle » Sat Sep 10, 2016 11:13 am UTC

TIL what really matters about a fighter pilot:

F-16 pilot Heather 'Lucky' Penney was ready to give her life on Sept. 11

Late in the morning of the Tuesday that changed everything, Lt. Heather "Lucky" Penney was on a runway at Andrews Air Force Base and ready to fly. She had her hand on the throttle of an F-16 and she had her orders: Bring down United Airlines Flight 93. ...

For years, Penney, one of the first generation of female combat pilots in the country, gave no interviews about her experiences on Sept. 11 (which included, eventually, escorting Air Force One back into Washington's suddenly highly restricted airspace).

But 10 years later, she is reflecting on one of the lesser-told tales of that endlessly examined morning: how the first counterpunch the U.S. military prepared to throw at the attackers was effectively a suicide mission.

...

Penney, now a major but still a petite blonde with a Colgate grin, is no longer a combat flier.


Her teeth, her hair colour, her willingness to die for her country and her ability to experience time at two thirds the rate the rest of us do.
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby Angua » Sat Sep 10, 2016 11:40 am UTC

I noticed that in that article and it really annoyed me.
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby Flumble » Sat Sep 10, 2016 11:49 am UTC

flier?

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Re: Today I Learned

Postby Magnanimous » Sun Sep 11, 2016 9:09 am UTC

Sableagle wrote:Her teeth, her hair colour, her willingness to die for her country and her ability to experience time at two thirds the rate the rest of us do.

Maybe she flies really fast?

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Postby Sableagle » Sun Sep 11, 2016 2:55 pm UTC

Today I learned that "ugh it's hot" and "ow my knees." Working in the garden shall be postponed until it's cooler and then continue in smaller doses.
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby ucim » Sun Sep 11, 2016 6:00 pm UTC

Sableagle wrote:TIL what really matters about a fighter pilot:
F-16 pilot Heather 'Lucky' Penney was ready to give her life on Sept. 11
Penney, now a major but still a petite blonde with a Colgate grin, is no longer a combat flier.

Her teeth, her hair colour, her willingness to die for her country and her ability to experience time at two thirds the rate the rest of us do.
I don't read it that way. I read it as "... still young at heart...", phrased in a manner that better paints an image. It also illustrates that petite blondes can also be also a force to be respected. Not only do I not find this mysogynistic, I think it's a plus for gender equality.

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Re: Today I Learned

Postby Angua » Sun Sep 11, 2016 6:07 pm UTC

There's a picture of her - we don't really need much of a description. To me, pointing out what she looks like is annoying for multiple reasons:
a) males are generally not described as so
b) it makes it sound surprising that a blonde is a fighter pilot.

Like, in the media women are always described by their looks in any commentary about their achievements, especially what they looked like during the interview. You have to comment on their smile - always a given. Are they wearing makeup? Aren't they wearing makeup? What sort of clothes they're in. Do they look 'tired' (btw now that I'm more aware of this thing, the angrier I am at Doctor Who for that choice bit of revenge). How young do they look? Have they got rid of their baby bump? Hair colour often present.

It's endemic.
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby Sableagle » Sun Sep 11, 2016 6:34 pm UTC

Related:

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Found on a tumblr:
Some of them are hilarious. Some are "WTF?" moments all by themselves and some of them are neat little bundles of red flags.
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby SecondTalon » Sun Sep 11, 2016 6:44 pm UTC

ucim wrote:
Sableagle wrote:TIL what really matters about a fighter pilot:
F-16 pilot Heather 'Lucky' Penney was ready to give her life on Sept. 11
Penney, now a major but still a petite blonde with a Colgate grin, is no longer a combat flier.

Her teeth, her hair colour, her willingness to die for her country and her ability to experience time at two thirds the rate the rest of us do.
I don't read it that way. I read as "... still young at heart...", phrased in a manner that better paints an image. It also illustrates that petite blondes can also be also a force to be respected. Not only do I not find this mysogynistic, I think it's a plus for gender equality.

Jose

You appear to be reading it as a single comment, standing on it's own.

Others, like Angua and myself, are reading it in the context of the society it came from where, historically speaking, women are things.

That's at least my assumption on why you don't see a problem.
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby Flumble » Sun Sep 11, 2016 8:12 pm UTC

Angua wrote:(btw now that I'm more aware of this thing, the angrier I am at Doctor Who for that choice bit of revenge).

Reflecting on that: it's rather fitting because the whole episode was about the Doctor sleeping (for plot convenience reasons), while the PM was leading a crisis team for over a day.
Also, I never gave it much thought, but the Doctor really made a dick move there. He could've convinced the PM of not destroying non-threats with just 6 words (if RTD demands it), but instead drops all morale to prove he wasn't bluffing.


By the way, when do Clara, Me and Jenny get their spin-off series?

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Re: Today I Learned

Postby ucim » Sun Sep 11, 2016 8:32 pm UTC

Angua wrote:b) it makes it sound surprising that a blonde is a fighter pilot.
Well, it is surprising to some. Some need to be told before they can begin to assume.

Sableagle wrote:Found on a tumblr:
Yeah... tumblr. An entirely different world. WTF? to the entire tumblrverse.

SecondTalon wrote:You appear to be reading it as a single comment, standing on it's own.
Yes, I am. The writer writes their comment; they don't write society. But with each comment, they get to rewrite society. Society gets rewritten slowly, but has to be rewritten. This is an active thing; you can't do it by simply being silent about things you want to change - that is, pretending society is already there when it isn't.

I see a problem with society, but because of this I don't see a problem with that one comment.

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Re: Today I Learned

Postby Deva » Sun Sep 11, 2016 11:23 pm UTC

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Re: Today I Learned

Postby ameretrifle » Mon Sep 12, 2016 5:25 am UTC

Flumble wrote:
Angua wrote:(btw now that I'm more aware of this thing, the angrier I am at Doctor Who for that choice bit of revenge).

Reflecting on that: it's rather fitting because the whole episode was about the Doctor sleeping (for plot convenience reasons), while the PM was leading a crisis team for over a day.
Also, I never gave it much thought, but the Doctor really made a dick move there. He could've convinced the PM of not destroying non-threats with just 6 words (if RTD demands it), but instead drops all morale to prove he wasn't bluffing.

Welcome to my world. We have cinnamon buns.

It's been-- I don't want to know-- oh, christ, nearly a decade now-- and sometimes I still find myself thinking of how incredibly pissed off I was by Planet of the Ood. The fucking temerity.
Spoiler:
-The Doctor and Donna wander onto the Ood planet
-It eventually occurs to the Doctor that despite his previous complete lack of alarm, this whole "servant species" thing seems a bit fucked up
-Doctor gets captured and decides that yes, in fact, this is probably wrong
-Dr. Ryder reveals that he is part of an anti-slavery social movement and has facilitated the liberation of the Ood by working undercover for years on end (I make a point of remembering his name, as immediately after)
-Dr. Ryder is unceremoniously killed (by being thrown into the Ood brain) because God forbid anyone upstage the Doctor, he is the son of rage and love, the Jesus of Suburbia the children would get all confused
-Big bad is killed (by forced assimilation into the Ood)
-Doctor is offered the opportunity to officially free the Ood race, despite there being an actual Ood right there
-Doctor accepts the opportunity to officially free the Ood race, despite there being an actual Ood right there
-Ood shower Doctor and Donna with praise and ally cookies until they finally go away (not that this is not the most rational course of action on their part; let him hang around too long and he might get all proprietary)
-(you'll have had this whole golden age lined up but then someone will dare to act as if the flaky but useful guy who occasionally shows up at random intervals might not be there whenever he's needed and then there goes the neighborhood)
-Actual ally is never mentioned again
-Despite having done all the work whilst the Doctor and Donna just happened to kind of show up and lollygag around
-(I have no issue with episodes with the Doctor just wandering around, there should in fact have been more of them, he just should not concurrently be The Big Hero Who Saved the Day By Wandering By and Getting Captured the Day The Revolution Happened)
-(Heroism is for magic space aliens, not normal people who see a wrong being done and do hard work to right it, god forbid we let kids think that's ever rewarded)
-(Phrase it like that and a cynic might suggest it would indeed have been an unrealistic thing to suggest)
-AMT spends years waiting for the general, fannish, or just liberal population to realize that this episode is problematic as balls (and pretending the angry fanfic stage never happened as best as she can)
-(oh, god, the angry fanfic stage)

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Re: Today I Learned

Postby Angua » Mon Sep 12, 2016 8:48 am UTC

Yeah, that whole thing was pretty ridiculous.

TIL:
One of the things that WHO does is rumour surveillance.

Media sources included journalists visiting WPRO and Web sites for television networks and newspapers. Most were English-based media sources; however, some were also in Japanese and Arabic. To increase the scope of the active media search, this officer also accessed the Global Public Health Intelligence Network 10), an electronic surveillance system that continuously monitors >600 media sources and biomedical journals in a number of languages, including Chinese, Spanish, English, and French.


EDIT - there's even a law of Rumours!!!
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby Sableagle » Mon Sep 12, 2016 3:52 pm UTC

ameretrifle wrote:... normal people who see a wrong being done and do hard work to right it ...
:shock:
Your normal is better than our normal.
:cry:
I suppose that means our whole plane's misaligned again.
:(

I recently had cause to consider what is "normal" around here.

I concluded that: "Well, shit."
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby eran_rathan » Wed Sep 14, 2016 1:52 pm UTC

Sableagle wrote:
ameretrifle wrote:... normal people who see a wrong being done and do hard work to right it ...
:shock:
Your normal is better than our normal.
:cry:
I suppose that means our whole plane's misaligned again.
:(

I recently had cause to consider what is "normal" around here.

I concluded that: "Well, shit."



On the other hand, the whole "War/Osgood speech" scene from "The Zygon Inversion" is bloody brilliant.
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby pogrmman » Wed Sep 14, 2016 8:43 pm UTC

I'm messing around with Lisp, and I learned today that 81083! is approximately 5 x 10362819 -- I'm amazed at how simple it was to calculate this monstrosity...
I'd post it here, but the 350,000-odd characters I'd need is longer than the post limit here!

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Re: Today I Learned

Postby Mutex » Wed Sep 14, 2016 10:16 pm UTC

Today I learned that Halle Berry is 50.

I was watching a review of the Flintstones movie from 1994, and she was in it. I was like, wtf, shouldn't she have been in high school at that time? Fucking nope, she was 28.

Does she drink the blood of virgins every full moon??!

It's great that there's at least one woman in Hollywood over 27 getting work in action films.

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Re: Today I Learned

Postby Sableagle » Wed Sep 14, 2016 10:25 pm UTC

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It's possible some of us haven't yet fully adjusted to the dramatic increases in life expectancy over the last 2,000 years or so.
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby eran_rathan » Fri Sep 16, 2016 1:07 pm UTC

pogrmman wrote:I'm messing around with Lisp, and I learned today that 81083! is approximately 5 x 10362819 -- I'm amazed at how simple it was to calculate this monstrosity...
I'd post it here, but the 350,000-odd characters I'd need is longer than the post limit here!


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Re: Today I Learned

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eran_rathan wrote:
pogrmman wrote:I'm messing around with Lisp, and I learned today that 81083! is approximately 5 x 10362819 -- I'm amazed at how simple it was to calculate this monstrosity...
I'd post it here, but the 350,000-odd characters I'd need is longer than the post limit here!


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Re: Today I Learned

Postby Angua » Mon Sep 19, 2016 10:19 am UTC

Farcasting is a word.

Farcasting
Farcasting is trying to predict the value of a variable in a place that may be far away but is not a future value


It sounds so mystical for something that is a statistical term.
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby Sableagle » Tue Sep 20, 2016 9:26 pm UTC

Today I learned that "it won't fit in there without getting damaged, it'll take a lot of damage coming back out, it's already damaged and that'll make it even harder to get out, resulting in more damage and there's a place right there where it would fit just fine" doesn't add up to a valid reason not to "put that there," so I spent quite some time making "damaged" look like "undamaged."
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby Pfhorrest » Tue Sep 20, 2016 9:37 pm UTC

The Lisp comic above reminds me of a thing I learned a few days ago.

Apparently Internet-based anti-Semites are starting a trend of writing the names of people of Jewish ancestry in triple-parentheses, (((like this))), to call attention to their Jewishness when mentioning them. They call it an "echo". I thought it was so bizarre and unlike anything I'd ever seen when I first read about it (by random browsing on RationalWiki, following some link from their article about the Alt-Right I think), and then a day later I saw some Anonymous Coward doing it on Slashdot. Sad.
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby SecondTalon » Tue Sep 20, 2016 11:34 pm UTC

Signal-Noise it?

Maybe I should filter everyone's name to (((SecondTalon))). Just, y'know. With their username.
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby Angua » Wed Sep 21, 2016 6:56 am UTC

Didn't I hear on twitter a while back that a lot of Jewish people were putting their names in parentheses to hit back at that practice?
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby addams » Wed Sep 21, 2016 8:52 am UTC

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Re: Today I Learned

Postby Envelope Generator » Sun Oct 02, 2016 6:01 pm UTC

TIL "finite" is not pronounced /fɪ'ni:t/.
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby flicky1991 » Sun Oct 02, 2016 6:57 pm UTC

But it should be.
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby Flumble » Sun Oct 02, 2016 7:29 pm UTC

/fɪ'ni:t/? How do you even?

I'm in favour of changig it to /fɪnɪt/ though, to get that similarity with infinite and definite. (it's at odds with final, but who thinks of final when seeing finite?)

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Re: Today I Learned

Postby Zohar » Mon Oct 03, 2016 1:11 pm UTC

There should be an add-on to Chrome that translates IPA (or however those pronunciation things are called) to actual words I can read in English - "fi as in finish" etc. I'm not interested in learning another alphabet (in addition to Hebrew, Latin, and three Japanese alphabets...)
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby Flumble » Mon Oct 03, 2016 2:31 pm UTC

You should be, for IPA is the one alphabet to rule them all. :D That is, in terms of unambiguous pronunciation of nearly every speech sound on Earth; can't say it has hierarchy or structure in the characters, like Hangul, or ease-of-writing or a future in calligraphy.

And Japanese doesn't even have 3 alphabets. :o

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Re: Today I Learned

Postby Zohar » Mon Oct 03, 2016 2:34 pm UTC

Whatever, writing systems then.
Mighty Jalapeno: "See, Zohar agrees, and he's nice to people."
SecondTalon: "Still better looking than Jesus."

Not how I say my name


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