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How much do you smoke?

none
259
63%
smoked a few times
71
17%
smoke every couple of months
19
5%
smoke every couple of weeks
12
3%
smoke every couple of days
15
4%
about once a day
14
3%
whats sober?
6
1%
otter/duck
18
4%
 
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Pot

Postby 3.14159265... » Mon Jul 07, 2008 7:29 pm UTC

Discuss your experiences with it.

Currently I am smoking more than I would like and am trying to cut down, any tips?

It has led me to great realizations about myself, but i have also had a few bad trips on it.
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Re: Pot

Postby vqcg » Mon Jul 07, 2008 7:41 pm UTC

Have smoked a few times, mostly when I was 12 - 14, but once more recently (18).
I enjoy it and I mostly gave up because when I was 14 I started going out with my ex and my circle of friends changed to be mostly her friends, who didn't smoke it. I didn't have much real reason for 'giving up' but I didn't have much real reason to seek it out, anyway, so my interest kind of waned when I stopped being around people who offered it.
I haven't really had 'realisations' OR bad things happen to me, it's just kind of relaxing, for me.
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Re: Pot

Postby 3.14159265... » Mon Jul 07, 2008 7:59 pm UTC

There was a reason I had put this in the SB.

The treatment pot gets either "It's a DRUG!! run!" or "Greatest thing ever!!!" are too shallow.

I wanted to have a more serious discussion using anecdotal evidence on the psychology of the pot sub-culture, since scientific studies are limited to it's legality.

I would appreciate it if one of the mods moved it back.
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Re: Pot

Postby Dave Rapp » Mon Jul 07, 2008 7:59 pm UTC

Having grown up with parents that smoke cigarettes heavily, I'm sort of... crap, what's the word for when you've developed an adversion to something? Adversed? Something like that? Well whatever the word for it is, I'm not a huge fan of smoking in general. Pot sounds like fun though.
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Re: Pot

Postby Account20151023 » Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:08 pm UTC

I have concrete lungs and will die early because of it, but I have to say I prefer hookah (with just tobacco). That being said, if they didn't screen at work, I'd smoke hydro a lot more often. It is pretty bangin' if you mix it in there. I don't particularly like the taste of it, either. Also, it used to put my temper on an irrational hair trigger. I think I grew out of that, though.

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Re: Pot

Postby sophyturtle » Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:10 pm UTC

If you asked 2 months ago, it would have been more than once a day. Now, much less so. Life is less stressful (it helps to no longer live with my ex), so I just don't want to as much. Also, it is harder for em to get now, so I don't buy as often, so I don't smoke as much.
I do like to, and when I drink I miss it sometimes. I mean, in terms of health risks it is safer than drinking...
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Re: Pot

Postby Izawwlgood » Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:12 pm UTC

I smoked myself into oblivion for about two and a half years (early college). I was dealing to support my habit, and was very depressed.

Smoking affects different people in different ways, so whereas I've seen people perk up, relax, and become able to compose fantastic music, writing, paintings and other acts of creative awesomeness, I found I was typically nervous, 'stuck', and paranoid. I got my shit together after meandering aimlessly through the addiction for a few years, and began to realize why it affected me the way it did. After trying pot a few more times with other friends, I eventually just decided to quit. Now I don't smoke at all, and find other drugs to be more my thing.

In retrospect, I'm glad I went through the 3 years or so that my addiction to marijuana took up, but they certainly were depressing times. Certainly not solely due to weed, but weed didn't help, and I probably wouldn't have swung as low as I did without pots help.

And no, I was not physically addicted, because such a thing does not exist. I did get quite out of shape though.
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Re: Pot

Postby Gunfingers » Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:14 pm UTC

I'm uncomfortable with behavior altering substances, to the point that i won't take aspirin unless the headache is really bad, so obviously i've never tried pot nor would i be around people while they did it. The pot sub-culture is not one of which i'm a huge fan, though i'm definitely in the 'legalize it' category. I wouldn't do it, wouldn't hang out with people that do it a lot, but i'll certainly never tell someone they aren't allowed to do it.

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Re: Pot

Postby Iconoclast » Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:25 pm UTC

I used to smoke with some friends, but the risk of suffering from drug laws was too much to continue (Don't take my financial aid!). I didn't really like being high that much, but smoking with friends was fun (good social activity). Plus, smoking in general is fun - if tobacco wasn't carcinogenic and expensive, i'd do a pack a day.

When i first started out, i'd get 'bad trips' every once in a while, until I realized there are no physiological dangers. After that, I could talk myself out of anything bad going on in my head.

As for cutting back, I imagine it's different for everyone. Like I said, I didn't really like THC that much to begin with, so it was easy enough for me.

Also, in the interest of keeping this thread on topic, I'd like to point out that there is a thread for whether or not marijuans is safe (non-anecdotal evidence) http://forums.xkcd.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=21964&hilit=marijuana, and I am sure there is one about legalization.
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Re: Pot

Postby little birdie » Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:30 pm UTC

Tried it twice. It's legal here, so hey, who cares. Don't like it though:

First time, I threw up BADLY. Perhaps you shouldn't drink a lot of beer before you smoke it, but still. Not quite something I'd call 'enjoyable'.
Second time, nothing happened. I was a bit giggly, but honestly, I can get that giggly without pot just fine.

I don't know, I just don't see the big deal. I'll just stick to alcohol, I guess.

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Re: Pot

Postby Nutcase » Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:41 pm UTC

I smoke pot on the occasion. Not to often though. It's legal here ( Yay Holland ) so it isn't much of a hassle to get it anyway. I usually smoke on certain events or happenings ( Read: concerts, party's and the like ).
I've both had the whole "Whooaah...it all makes so much sense now :shock: " and "Ohh shit...ohh shit...my heart is going to explode! :x " experience's.

All in all... it's a fun thing to do if you can manage yourself to only do it on special occasions. And I suggest you only do it with good friends/ alone in a relaxing environment.

ow... and Protip: Don't drink and smoke at the same time...especially on the first few times. It'll fuck you up real good

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Re: Pot

Postby micco » Mon Jul 07, 2008 9:03 pm UTC

I`d rather stay away from drugs, because I`m afraid that I might hurt someone while I`m under the influence of a drug.
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Re: Pot

Postby Izawwlgood » Mon Jul 07, 2008 9:06 pm UTC

I had some irresponsible sex while mucked up, but I think that was more a reflection of me as a 19 year old.

Oh, I broke my wrist while biking drunk and had to change my following years plans. I ended up meeting a girl and moving to Alabama because of it, as well as getting co-authorship on two journal publications.

I dunno, drugs are part of life and life is ever changing. Don't get to hung-up in the specifics.

Note: I still sometimes have sloppy sex after getting drunk, but now it's with my girlfriend and usually just ends with bitemarks and hangovers. And sometimes dented furniture.
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Re: Pot

Postby asad137 » Mon Jul 07, 2008 9:17 pm UTC

I don't smoke pot (don't like the smell, the idea of inhaling smoke of any sort, or the potential mind-altering characteristics), but I have no problem with those who do. But really I'm just posting because I found the thread title on the thread index page amusing: "Poll: Pot"

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Re: Pot

Postby protocoach » Mon Jul 07, 2008 9:26 pm UTC

I can't smoke. I had some nasty infections when I was little and my lungs got some damage. I can't explain it perfectly, as I've never had it fully explained to me, but smoke and I don't mix. I can handle some woodsmoke, but no cigarettes and no weed. I think it should be legalized, but I'm a drinker, so I don't care that much either way.
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Re: Pot

Postby tryptanymph » Mon Jul 07, 2008 9:30 pm UTC

I don't smoke it, purely because it reduces me to a hacking, gagging sack of crap. Damn asthma. That being said, I do consume it in baked products. :D
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Re: Pot

Postby Izawwlgood » Mon Jul 07, 2008 9:33 pm UTC

I want to point out that I know a number of asthmatics who smoke. You can also use a vaporizer to eliminate most of the particulate crud. You can also use a bong to do the same. If you have an allergic reaction to the smoke, that's something else entirely, but I was once fronted by a paranoid neighbor who complained of lock jaw and migraines, to which I say, get a grip.
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Re: Pot

Postby Rat » Mon Jul 07, 2008 9:41 pm UTC

oh i loves my mary jane..

i don't think i'll quit any time soon..

but i will say that the longer i stay sober, the sharper i get..

i would have more to say but i have to get to work in time to smoke a bowl first

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Re: Pot

Postby BattleMoose » Mon Jul 07, 2008 9:50 pm UTC

Tried it a few times, had very minimal effect, never quite got what the fuss was about.

Last time i tried i threw up, no idea why, so, havent tried it in years......

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Re: Pot

Postby Jessica » Mon Jul 07, 2008 9:53 pm UTC

Tried twice. Once was awesome, second time sucked.
Haven't done it since, thought, I wouldn't be adverse to doing it again if I had friends who did.
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Re: Pot

Postby Dingbats » Mon Jul 07, 2008 10:06 pm UTC

I was hoping this thread would be about Pol Pot.

Nah I don't smoke it. No one does around here.

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Postby lowbart » Mon Jul 07, 2008 10:06 pm UTC

I don't smoke pot and don't intend to, but I don't get judgmental with people who do smoke it. You can wreck your lungs if you want to.
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Postby Jessica » Mon Jul 07, 2008 10:07 pm UTC

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Re: Pot

Postby Trevor » Mon Jul 07, 2008 10:11 pm UTC

I've been going at it more frequently lately, 3-5 bowls/day, 6 days a week. I'll probably start cutting down, it's had a noticeable effect on my short-term memory and sinuses. In small doses though I find it increases creativity.
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Re: Pot

Postby Iconoclast » Mon Jul 07, 2008 10:16 pm UTC

micco wrote:I`d rather stay away from drugs, because I`m afraid that I might hurt someone while I`m under the influence of a drug.

This really is not an issue with THC. You don't lose control of your faculties on pot, at least with me and everyone I've ever seen do it. Yeah, you might do some stupid shit (especially with lighters), but the high people you see doing ridiculously stupid shit are stupid to begin with. If you're in a familiar environment with good people, it really is not something you'd have to be worried about. I'm not trying to pressure you into doing it (I don't do it anymore), it's just that misconception is the basis of "Reefer Madness"
lowbart wrote:I don't smoke pot and don't intend to, but I don't get judgmental with people who do smoke it. You can wreck your lungs if you want to.
You can always vaporize and water cool it, or cook with it. Then again, it really is not worth the hassle.
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Re: Pot

Postby Quadropus » Mon Jul 07, 2008 10:23 pm UTC

I used to smoke a stupid amount of weed. Like, every night and at lunch at school. Then I had a revelation whilst on magic mushrooms (well, I say revelation; I was under a blanket on some sand dunes miles away from my house with no way home thinking that the universe was ending). After that, I realised how much I value being in my right mind, so for a good few months (whilst I was still incredibly introverted after pretty much leaving my friendship group. This was aided by the depression I went though when a friend of mine passed away) I was off drugs of any kind, including alcohol and weed.

After a while though I started to become slightly more social and gradually became myself again but with a new group of [nicer] friends who were all waaaay more like me than the ones before.
That started me drinking again.

Now, I am pretty much normal in the way of drugs and alcohol. I.e. I will drink at parties and sometimes smoke if I have the money to buy it.

I find the actual act of preparing and smoking immensely rewarding. Just because it is fun in itself.

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Re: Pot

Postby Jessica » Mon Jul 07, 2008 10:24 pm UTC

Iconoclast wrote:
Nutcase wrote:ow... and Protip: Don't drink and smoke at the same time...especially on the first few times. It'll fuck you up real good
In my opinion the alc/weed is greater than the sum of its parts.
Protip: If you do, make sure to COUNT the alcohol servings. They add up quickly.

I did that the first time. It was awesome.
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Re: Pot

Postby cyberia » Mon Jul 07, 2008 11:24 pm UTC

I don't enjoy pot. The whole process of getting it, storing it, preparing it and smoking it just so I can feel tingly and laugh at dumb shit isn't worth it, imo.

I think, also, having a couple of friends who are addicted to pot pretty hardcore (imagine some strung-out smack-addict desperate for a hit; yeah, like that) makes me want to avoid it. (I have an aversion to being dependent on anything so seeing addicts makes me kinda despise them and their drug.)

However, I do smoke in two situations: [a] When I'm stressed and cbf doing anything so I'll come home after work and smoke myself into oblivion. Or [b] when I'm with my dumb stoner friends, I'll have a couple of bowls just to dumb myself down so I can tolerate their antics.

On the whole, I dislike pot because it makes me feel dumb. I lose the thread of what I'm saying, I forget words and information; I get thirsty and I can't sleep. It just doesn't seem worth it. I've never had any great 'revelations' or anything while smoking and, honestly, when I see my stoner friends going, 'whoa, man...' I'm fairly sure it's all psychosomatic.

edit - writing this made me realise that I kinda hate pot. And stoners.
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Re: Pot

Postby Baba Yaga's Sister » Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:11 am UTC

I don't smoke pot or use any other kind of drugs. I have a pretty addictive personality and I really don't want to lose control.

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Re: Pot

Postby Jack Saladin » Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:13 am UTC

... Seriously, you can't get addicted to weed any more than you can get addicted to lemonade. It's not chemically addicting.

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Re: Pot

Postby Izawwlgood » Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:21 am UTC

I knew someone who had a very physically demanding job, and after everyday he's smoke, relax and fall asleep. When he tried quitting, his aches and pains started kicking in pretty hard, and he found he needed pot to finish his days without heavy doses of painkillers.

I also know a lot of people who can't sleep without toking. So yes, it's not physically addictive like heroine or cocaine, but don't discount the physical side effects or addictive properties that those side effects may entail.
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Re: Pot

Postby cyberia » Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:29 am UTC

Jack Saladin wrote:... Seriously, you can't get addicted to weed any more than you can get addicted to lemonade. It's not chemically addicting.



Wikipedia wrote:Psychological dependency

Psychological dependency is a dependency of the mind, and leads to psychological withdrawal symptoms (such as cravings, irritability, insomnia, depression, anorexia, etc). Addiction can in theory be derived from any rewarding behaviour, and is believed to be strongly associated with the dopaminergic system of the brain's reward system (as in the case of cocaine and amphetamines). Some claim that it is a habitual means to avoid undesired activity, but typically it is only so to a clinical level in individuals who have emotional, social, or psychological dysfunctions (psychological addiction is defined as such), replacing normal positive stimuli not otherwise attained (see Rat Park).

It is considered possible to be both psychologically and physically dependent at the same time. Some doctors, and especially scientists in related fields, make little or no distinction between the two types of addiction, since the result, substance abuse, is the same, and in terms of scientific as opposed to magical thinking, the "psychological" dependence is entirely due to physical effects of the drug on the brain.
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Re: Pot

Postby Iconoclast » Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:31 am UTC

Izawwlgood wrote:I knew someone who had a very physically demanding job, and after everyday he's smoke, relax and fall asleep. When he tried quitting, his aches and pains started kicking in pretty hard, and he found he needed pot to finish his days without heavy doses of painkillers.

I also know a lot of people who can't sleep without toking. So yes, it's not physically addictive like heroine or cocaine, but don't discount the physical side effects or addictive properties that those side effects may entail.

That's more of an instance of pot helping someone, isn't it? The aches and pains were suppressed by the pot, not caused by the lack of it.
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Re: Pot

Postby Jack Saladin » Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:38 am UTC

cyberia wrote:
Jack Saladin wrote:... Seriously, you can't get addicted to weed any more than you can get addicted to lemonade. It's not chemically addicting.



Wikipedia wrote:Psychological dependency

Psychological dependency is a dependency of the mind, and leads to psychological withdrawal symptoms (such as cravings, irritability, insomnia, depression, anorexia, etc). Addiction can in theory be derived from any rewarding behaviour, and is believed to be strongly associated with the dopaminergic system of the brain's reward system (as in the case of cocaine and amphetamines). Some claim that it is a habitual means to avoid undesired activity, but typically it is only so to a clinical level in individuals who have emotional, social, or psychological dysfunctions (psychological addiction is defined as such), replacing normal positive stimuli not otherwise attained (see Rat Park).

It is considered possible to be both psychologically and physically dependent at the same time. Some doctors, and especially scientists in related fields, make little or no distinction between the two types of addiction, since the result, substance abuse, is the same, and in terms of scientific as opposed to magical thinking, the "psychological" dependence is entirely due to physical effects of the drug on the brain.

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Postby cyberia » Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:53 am UTC

Jack Saladin wrote:... Did you not read my post at all? Moron.


I read the part that said 'you can't get addicted to weed' and was pointing out that you can, actually, develop a dependence on weed.
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Re: Pot

Postby Iconoclast » Tue Jul 08, 2008 1:03 am UTC

cyberia wrote:
Jack Saladin wrote:... Did you not read my post at all? Moron.


I read the part that said 'you can't get addicted to weed' and was pointing out that you can, actually, develop a dependence on weed.

Addiction and dependance are separate things, though. Lots of people get the two confused (no need for people to get flustered).
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Certainly possible with cannabis. Also possible with caffeine, although caffeine is actually addictive as well.
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Re: Pot

Postby Izawwlgood » Tue Jul 08, 2008 1:06 am UTC

Iconoclast wrote:That's more of an instance of pot helping someone, isn't it? The aches and pains were suppressed by the pot, not caused by the lack of it.


Well, it's an example of how someone was addicted because of a physical dependency. Sort of.
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Re: Pot

Postby Iconoclast » Tue Jul 08, 2008 1:20 am UTC

Izawwlgood wrote:
Iconoclast wrote:That's more of an instance of pot helping someone, isn't it? The aches and pains were suppressed by the pot, not caused by the lack of it.


Well, it's an example of how someone was addicted because of a physical dependency. Sort of.

But wasn't it the demanding job causing the aches and pains? It's like taking an antacid every time you eat chili, then stop taking the antacid, and blame the heartburn on your addiction.
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Re: Pot

Postby Phen » Tue Jul 08, 2008 1:25 am UTC

I've never tried weed, just like I've never tried smoking. I don't see why I should start an unhealthy habit. I've never heard people talk about weed like it has no bad effects (Like in this thread), which surprises me a bit... It's a while since my highschool biology classes, but we had a subject about the brain back then and I think that one of the chemicals in weed (THC if I recall correctly) is the one that has a relatively long halflife and messes with one's capability to learn.

EDIT: I've never been so fond about alchohol either, but I drink it since it's pretty much required at any party. I think we were recently beaten in being europe (or the world's) heaviest drinkers, but I'm not too sure about the details.
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Re: Pot

Postby Rusty Piton » Tue Jul 08, 2008 1:37 am UTC

I must say, I LOVE pot.
I love it. I could roll around in a room full of buds and swim around in the sticky kind piles like Scrooge McDuck.

That said, I don't smoke it anymore.
For years, from the age of 16 to the age of 22, I smoked maybe 4 or five times a day.
Baked was my status quo. I would smoke before embarking on any anything, whether I was getting on the bus or working on a composition, I just had to be stoned.
Though I didn't know it at the time, the pot caused me extreme anxiety, and my mind would sprial through horrible scenarios untill I would just stay home. I cut class a lot. Pot is the reason that I didn't finish college.
I gave up smoking weed two years ago and have taken one hit since.
It may sound obvious, but I am a happier, more cogent, more functional person without the ganja.
Good times though...
...now if I could only remember them.


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