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Re: Questions For The World

Postby Sir_Elderberry » Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:29 am UTC

The question was specifically directed towards Americans, though.
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Re: Questions For The World

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You are right. I took the statement about "people" out of context.

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Re: Questions For The World

Postby Hamorad » Mon Sep 21, 2009 2:15 am UTC

Yes manual transmission cars are pretty much on the way out here in American land. The only people who really drive them are the ones who do so out of affordability or, well on the other side of the coin, speed/performance/showmanship. I'm one of the few people I know who doesn't race cars and knows how to drive a stick shift (and not like 90 years old), but that's only because the ancient snow plow I use in the winter (which was made obsolete in 1712 by the first successful commercial steam engine) has a stick shift.

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Re: Questions For The World

Postby eekmeep » Mon Sep 21, 2009 3:12 am UTC

I learned to drive a stick b/c I found a car for $200 and bought it. Lucky I did, because now I semi-routinely have to drive one for work, and it would be embarrassing not to be able to, esp. as a girl ... it would annoy me to no end to contribute to the "girls can't drive stick" stereotype.

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Re: Questions For The World

Postby mrbaggins » Mon Sep 21, 2009 12:31 pm UTC

Wow... I would never have believed that except for the overwhelming agreement on here.

AFL is basically kick the ball towards a team mate closer to their goal than you are, unless you can kick it between the posts yourself. There are various rules in place to ensure people don't just run around with the ball. It's also quite big in Sydney,but yeah, Victoria is the capital of it.

Plenty of roadside memorials, but they're typically just flowers/crosses, not big anti-drink driving notices or anything.

Personally, it's not another country I see as a cheap shot taking location, it's Tasmania (a state).

So I guess my question for countries divided into states/provinces, do you have a state/province/town that is the butt of a whole heap of jokes/insults? EG: It's 'common knowledge' that Tasmanians are inbred-bogan-apple farmers.
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Re: Questions For The World

Postby Grop » Mon Sep 21, 2009 3:00 pm UTC

While France isn't "divided" (that is, not the way federal states are divided), there are many stereotypes about different places. People from Marseille exaggerate everything they say, Corsicans are lazy and/or chauvinist terrorists, Parisians know nothing about life outside of their big village, Bretons are all alcoholic, etc.

However the main target of jokes are the Belgians, who are supposed to be silly (although in real life people generally have a positive opinion on them).

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Postby SecondTalon » Mon Sep 21, 2009 4:18 pm UTC

mrbaggins wrote:So I guess my question for countries divided into states/provinces, do you have a state/province/town that is the butt of a whole heap of jokes/insults? EG: It's 'common knowledge' that Tasmanians are inbred-bogan-apple farmers.

Using these divisions.. not that everyone can even agree on those divisions....

The West Coast - Oregon, Washington, California : You're either a surfer, constantly hanging out on the beach, or you're wearing parkas and sweaters at all times because you live in a fucking rain forest. Either way, you're a goddamn hippy and smoke a lot of pot. You are at least one of the following - Social Activist ; Actor ; Waiter/Retail Clerk/Cleaner/Repairman/Any Other Job on the side because you're waiting for your big break into Acting. You've also possibly been in porn, or at least know how to get into the business. If you're talking about California, the only parts of the state that exist are the first twenty miles or so from the water. That's all California is. Coastland. The rest of it doesn't count and is barely remembered.

The West - Mountain Regions - You're where people go to vacation. Occasionally people remember other people live here. Occasionally.

The Southwest - Oklahoma, Texas, New Mexico, Arizona - You're a cowboy. You are also gun happy, to the point of average gun ownership being 4.7 firearms per person. Also, you can't swing a cat without hitting a Saguaro cactus.

The South - basically everything in the part that map marks as the South, minus Texas and Oklahoma, and kinda minus Louisiana, as it's special - You're missing teeth to the point where it's easier to count how many remain than count how many are gone, poorly educated, and probably live in a teeny tiny town and/or farm. The more mountainous the area (East Kentucky, East Tennessee, North Georgia, West Carolinas, West Virginia, the western part of Virginia, Arkansas) the more you can expect incest jokes, especially ones that end with someone calling someone else "My older brother, Uncle Jimmy Joe-Bob". Probably shoeless.

Louisiana - as above, with wacky French accents and names (Pierre Joe-Bob) and a bizarre tongue that possibly maybe was English or French, once.. Also, you dredge the swamps and cook whatever you pull out - and we goddamn love you for that. Once a year you have people getting naked and drunkenly fornicating in the streets. Another point in the year has Mardi Gras.

The Midwest - You like hockey, the farther north you go the more Canadian you are, and you say things like "Dontchaknow?" to end sentences that may not have even been questions in the first place. Also, corn. For some reason, really really really important when a Presidential Primary and Election is going on, completely ignored for the rest of the 3.75 years.

The North (Labeled as The Northeast) - You're a pompous windback, a trust-fund baby, or simply have a superiority complex because you think you are better than the rest of the States, except maybe the West Coast. Everything else is Flyover and barely remembered. The farther north you go, the more likely you are to be a fisherman and possibly convinced that you're the only fishermen on the planet. Also, you have islands with names like Martha's Vineyard in which you're convinced everyone wants to have a summer home or something, though the rest of the US couldn't give a fuck less and probably hates you. Also, no one finds jokes about New Jersey all that funny.. probably because the only people who badmouth it seem to be from New York. Keep in mind that there is no New York State. Just a huge city between Jersey and Connecticut and a void in the map where stuff probably exists, maybe.


And the best part - if you ask another American, you're likely to get a completely different answer.
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Re: Questions For The World

Postby AJR » Mon Sep 21, 2009 4:58 pm UTC

mrbaggins wrote:So I guess my question for countries divided into states/provinces, do you have a state/province/town that is the butt of a whole heap of jokes/insults? EG: It's 'common knowledge' that Tasmanians are inbred-bogan-apple farmers.

In the UK, it's "common knowledge" that Welshmen engage in close personal relationships with farm animals (i.e. they shag sheep) and that East Anglia is a hotbed of inbreeding.

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Re: Questions For The World

Postby JBJ » Mon Sep 21, 2009 5:03 pm UTC

SecondTalon pretty well covered it, but could use a few additions.

Florida is also special, especially since the 2000 elections, but has always been known as God's waiting room. Home of the newlywed or nearly-dead. In reality it is a highly volatile mixture of natives, transplants (mostly from mid-west and north-east), and snow birds. You can cut Florida's political geography in half along I-4 which runs from Tampa in the west to Daytona in the east. Every thing north is Red, everything south is Blue. All the crazy shit that goes on down here usually happens within a 45 mile radius of that demarcation line. Except for Miami. That's an entirely different set of issues down there. Oh, we're also known as America's wang.

Actually, forget all that. Florida is Disney World. That's it, nothing else.

Also for the West - Mountain Regions - It's where the men are men and the sheep are scared.
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Re: Questions For The World

Postby SecondTalon » Mon Sep 21, 2009 5:09 pm UTC

Florida - Old People, Shuttle Launches, and DISNEYWORLD!!@@!($#(@!$(&*@!#^%(*#^%&*#^%*&#WOOOOOOOOO!!!!
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Re: Questions For The World

Postby Decker » Mon Sep 21, 2009 5:21 pm UTC

SecondTalon wrote: Keep in mind that there is no New York State. Just a huge city between Jersey and Connecticut and a void in the map where stuff probably exists, maybe.
I live in a void? Lame. No wonder it's been getting so cold lately.
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Re: Questions For The World

Postby Walter.Horvath » Mon Sep 21, 2009 7:27 pm UTC

Florida is special, and should not be a part of the defined south as per the link. We have a saying here (Not trying to fuel any stereotypes :P ) that you have to go north to get 'South'. Savannah is south. I consider NC and up to be a part of the north, or at least the Atlantic region.

Although in any town smaller than Orlando, Jacksonville, Tampa, or Miami, you are a hick. Seriously. It's where Larry the Cable Guy lives. *shudder* Anywhere else is a virtual melting pot (can be applied to temperature and ethnicity/regional background), and most are safe from the Idiot Ball there.

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Re: Questions For The World

Postby Surgery » Mon Sep 21, 2009 7:36 pm UTC

SecondTalon wrote:Keep in mind that there is no New York State. Just a huge city between Jersey and Connecticut and a void in the map where stuff probably exists, maybe.
Whoa, for a second there I thought every New York Governor and Senator for the past couple decades was posting here.

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Re: Questions For The World

Postby Decker » Mon Sep 21, 2009 7:44 pm UTC

Surgery wrote:
SexyTalon wrote:Keep in mind that there is no New York State. Just a huge city between Jersey and Connecticut and a void in the map where stuff probably exists, maybe.
Whoa, for a second there I thought every New York Governor and Senator for the past couple decades was posting here.

I'm in Rochester currently, where you at?
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Postby Sprocket » Mon Sep 21, 2009 7:45 pm UTC

I'm from Rochester. Fairport. Met a guy last night at a party across the street who's from Brighton.
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Postby Decker » Mon Sep 21, 2009 7:50 pm UTC

I'm in Webster currently, but I went to school at St. John Fisher =)
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Postby SecondTalon » Mon Sep 21, 2009 7:55 pm UTC

Walter.Horvath wrote:Florida is special, and should not be a part of the defined south as per the link. We have a saying here (Not trying to fuel any stereotypes :P ) that you have to go north to get 'South'. Savannah is south. I consider NC and up to be a part of the north, or at least the Atlantic region.
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I suppose the issue is that when I was typing that up I forgot Florida existed..... which says a lot for the general USAsian opinion on, say, Idaho, that I could forget a large populated state with a heavy tourism industry of which I took part in for my damn honeymoon not much more than three years ago.
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Re: Questions For The World

Postby riboflavin » Mon Sep 21, 2009 8:05 pm UTC

I has a question.

I have heard a few complaints about fast food restaurant employees not speaking a word of English, particularly in places like Arizona, Texas and New Mexico. Do people purposefully learn basic fast-food-ordering Spanish in order to successfully buy fast-food at these establishments?
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Postby Surgery » Mon Sep 21, 2009 9:38 pm UTC

Decker wrote:
Surgery wrote:
SexyTalon wrote:Keep in mind that there is no New York State. Just a huge city between Jersey and Connecticut and a void in the map where stuff probably exists, maybe.
Whoa, for a second there I thought every New York Governor and Senator for the past couple decades was posting here.

I'm in Rochester currently, where you at?
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Postby Sartorius » Mon Sep 21, 2009 10:00 pm UTC

riboflavin wrote:I has a question.

I have heard a few complaints about fast food restaurant employees not speaking a word of English, particularly in places like Arizona, Texas and New Mexico. Do people purposefully learn basic fast-food-ordering Spanish in order to successfully buy fast-food at these establishments?


No, it's the other way around. From my limited experience at fast food restaurants here in Texas, people who don't know English learn enough to do their job.
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Re: Questions For The World

Postby animeHrmIne » Mon Sep 21, 2009 10:29 pm UTC

Question for other USians, especially SecondTalon, as he seems to know this stuff:

What does the rest of the country classify Missouri as? Because the Bootheel is Southern, the North is Midwestern, the Ozarks are . . . Ozarkian . . . and we have Kansas City and St. Louis.

Does anyone else in these regions have the pop/coke/soda issue presented to them on an almost-daily basis? (Not necessarily which one is right, but do you hear people use the different terms? I say soda, but my grandparents all say pop (because they're Midwesterners and Ozarkians) and my step-mom's family says coke (because they're from the Bootheel.) And then there's that horrble thing known as "Sodie-pop". Why would you do that to a word?)

How many people think that Kansas City is in Kansas, even though most of the city and metropolitan area is in Missouri? Or do people in Kansas say that Kansas City is part of Kansas?

((Bonus: fun jokes. Joke 1: "If you gave the Bootheel to Arkansas, the IQ of both States would go up." Joke 2: "There are only two seasons in the Midwest: Winter and Road Construction."))
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Re: Questions For The World

Postby Grop » Mon Sep 21, 2009 10:38 pm UTC

riboflavin wrote:I have heard a few complaints about fast food restaurant employees not speaking a word of English, particularly in places like Arizona, Texas and New Mexico.


It really sounds like people who failed to communicate with people who weren't *great* at speaking English.

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Re: Questions For The World

Postby JBJ » Mon Sep 21, 2009 11:10 pm UTC

If asked without thinking about it, I would say that Missouri is part of the Midwest.

Regarding the pop/soda/Coke issue, I'm a Florida native with Midwestern parents, so I am bi-lingual in that respect. Soda is the majority term here, although pop is not unrecognized given the large population of transplants. Coke is also an acceptable term for all cola products, although restaurants that serve Pepsi or other products will often clarify the order with a "We serve Pepsi, is that OK?" Sprite is also a cover-all term for clear non-caffeinated sodas (Sierra Mist, 7-UP, etc...).

Another confusing concept is iced tea. My wife is from Georgia where it is assumed that iced tea means sweet tea. And by sweet tea, I mean a supersaturated sugar solution with some tea flavoring that could give a hummingbird diabetes. I grew up on unsweetened tea (thanks again to Midwestern parents) but also consumed my fair share of the sweetened kind growing up in the "South".
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Re: Questions For The World

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animeHrmIne wrote:Question for other USians, especially SexyTalon, as he seems to know this stuff:

Does anyone else in these regions have the pop/coke/soda issue presented to them on an almost-daily basis? (Not necessarily which one is right, but do you hear people use the different terms? I say soda, but my grandparents all say pop (because they're Midwesterners and Ozarkians) and my step-mom's family says coke (because they're from the Bootheel.) And then there's that horrble thing known as "Sodie-pop". Why would you do that to a word?)



I live in Illinois and it's pretty evenly distributed between soda and pop. I've never heard sodie-pop, but soda-pop turns up every now and then. Never pop-soda, though... Then I went to the east and called it pop and everyone looked at me funny. Does anyone know if it's pop or soda in the west (either California-west or mountainous boonies west)?

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Postby animeHrmIne » Mon Sep 21, 2009 11:44 pm UTC

JBJ wrote:Another confusing concept is iced tea. My wife is from Georgia where it is assumed that iced tea means sweet tea. And by sweet tea, I mean a supersaturated sugar solution with some tea flavoring that could give a hummingbird diabetes. I grew up on unsweetened tea (thanks again to Midwestern parents) but also consumed my fair share of the sweetened kind growing up in the "South".


Hells yes for sweet tea! I grew up in the Bootheel, so "tea" was the super-sweet stuff, unless you specifically asked for the unsweetened kind*. Also, never this weird warm stuff, "tea" is sweet ice tea. It's sad that in the Ozarks, we're almost too far north for them to even serve sweet tea at restaurants. -_-

And as for the road construction -- you've seen what they're doing to St. Louis, right? Years of road construction.

*Mmmmm, Sonic. The tea was so sweet that when they put ice in it and served it, you could feel the sugar granules. They even had three separate distinctions, instead of the usual two -- sweet, unsweet, and half-n-half.
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Postby Sir_Elderberry » Mon Sep 21, 2009 11:46 pm UTC

I'm in Oklahoma, soda is never used unless you want to make a point of being weird. Pop is completely universal, and Coke is a solid brand name.
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Postby Vohu Manah » Mon Sep 21, 2009 11:51 pm UTC

Does anyone know if it's pop or soda in the west (either California-west or mountainous boonies west)?


In Idaho (which counts as either mountainous boonies or Utah's brother), pop is the norm. My parents have always gone with coke, so I've taken a middle ground and have gone with soda.

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Postby alcibiades » Tue Sep 22, 2009 12:46 am UTC

Out East where I live it's always called soda but when I visit my relatives out west (either Michigan or Santa Fe) it is univerally called pop.

A question, especially for the non-US residents: What are the most dominant forms of music where you live if any? Rock, Rap, Pop, Hip-Hop, whatever?
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Postby Surgery » Tue Sep 22, 2009 3:02 am UTC

ThePurpleSmurf wrote:Does anyone know if it's pop or soda in the west (either California-west or mountainous boonies west)?
I grew up in California and always and still do call it soda. My grandmother was raised in Western New York and transplanted to California in her early twenties and still calls it pop (which now that she's moved back to New York is no longer odd). A lot of people in Western New York call it pop.

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animeHrmIne wrote:How many people think that Kansas City is in Kansas, even though most of the city and metropolitan area is in Missouri? Or do people in Kansas say that Kansas City is part of Kansas?
I tend to think more on the Kansas side, but that's mostly because just about everything I do in the area is on the Kansas side. Not much on the Missouri side that catches my attention.
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Re: Questions For The World

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Vohu Manah wrote:Obligatory Idaho Joke: Democrats in Idaho are like salmon; they're on the endangered species list.

Another Obligatory Idaho Joke: What's an Idaho?

(Seriously, though, Idaho as a state is so easily ignored that their premiere college football team had to install a blue field to get any attention.)

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animeHrmIne wrote:Bonus: Joke 2: "There are only two seasons in the Midwest: Winter and Road Construction."


This one is almost too true to be funny.

That's a joke? Could have fooled me. Besides, I always thought the seasons were Football Season and Off-Season.
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Re: Questions For The World

Postby SecondTalon » Tue Sep 22, 2009 2:08 pm UTC

animeHrmIne wrote:Question for other USians, especially SexyTalon, as he seems to know this stuff:

What does the rest of the country classify Missouri as? Because the Bootheel is Southern, the North is Midwestern, the Ozarks are . . . Ozarkian . . . and we have Kansas City and St. Louis.

Does anyone else in these regions have the pop/coke/soda issue presented to them on an almost-daily basis? (Not necessarily which one is right, but do you hear people use the different terms? I say soda, but my grandparents all say pop (because they're Midwesterners and Ozarkians) and my step-mom's family says coke (because they're from the Bootheel.) And then there's that horrble thing known as "Sodie-pop". Why would you do that to a word?)

How many people think that Kansas City is in Kansas, even though most of the city and metropolitan area is in Missouri? Or do people in Kansas say that Kansas City is part of Kansas?
No more so than any other American, most likely.

Midwest, coke, I don't but I'm sure gobs of people do, no idea about Kansas natives.
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Postby pseudoidiot » Tue Sep 22, 2009 2:14 pm UTC

I've always said soda (grew up mostly in northeast Arkansas). My wife says coke and grew up mostly in central Arkansas. Living on the Kansas side of Kansas City now, I think I hear a fair mix of all 3; nothing's really stuck out to me as being more common.
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Re: Questions For The World

Postby Vohu Manah » Tue Sep 22, 2009 10:58 pm UTC

Armadillo Al wrote:
Vohu Manah wrote:Obligatory Idaho Joke: Democrats in Idaho are like salmon; they're on the endangered species list.

Another Obligatory Idaho Joke: What's an Idaho?

(Seriously, though, Idaho as a state is so easily ignored that their premiere college football team had to install a blue field to get any attention.)


That's not true. Idaho is famous for its potatoes and white supremacists (We have a Potato Museum* that says so.)



*it doesn't say much about the white supremacy thing. The newspapers do that for us.
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Re: Questions For The World

Postby Adalwolf » Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:27 am UTC

animeHrmIne wrote:Question for other USians, especially SexyTalon, as he seems to know this stuff:

What does the rest of the country classify Missouri as? Because the Bootheel is Southern, the North is Midwestern, the Ozarks are . . . Ozarkian . . . and we have Kansas City and St. Louis.

Does anyone else in these regions have the pop/coke/soda issue presented to them on an almost-daily basis? (Not necessarily which one is right, but do you hear people use the different terms? I say soda, but my grandparents all say pop (because they're Midwesterners and Ozarkians) and my step-mom's family says coke (because they're from the Bootheel.) And then there's that horrble thing known as "Sodie-pop". Why would you do that to a word?)

How many people think that Kansas City is in Kansas, even though most of the city and metropolitan area is in Missouri? Or do people in Kansas say that Kansas City is part of Kansas?

((Bonus: fun jokes. Joke 1: "If you gave the Bootheel to Arkansas, the IQ of both States would go up." Joke 2: "There are only two seasons in the Midwest: Winter and Road Construction."))


Missouri is a mongrel of a state. That's what it is.

I live in Kansas and its pop. I lived in Pennsylvania and it was soda.

Kansas City is in both, but I tend to think of its own little thing, neither Kansan nor Missouran. Its just Kansas City.
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Re: Questions For The World

Postby Giant Speck » Wed Sep 23, 2009 6:02 am UTC

Where I come from, finding myself in MIssouri means I crossed the wrong bridge.
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Re: Questions For The World

Postby Walter.Horvath » Fri Sep 25, 2009 9:58 pm UTC

Okay, for native speakers of languages other than English (If such a thing exists :) )

When a non-native speaker (Say a russian) attempts to speak English, they'll usually mess up in one way or another, but commonly leaving out the subject at the beginning of the sentence, ("Ees [Is] good, no?"). Disregarding pronunciation and other random things, what do new speakers of your language usually mess up with grammatically?

I know that for French I have a hard time remembering that pas+de la/du/des=de. Fine with everything else so far, it seems, but lacking in that bit.

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Re: Questions For The World

Postby Cold » Fri Sep 25, 2009 11:06 pm UTC

1.Do people with strong accents have hard time understanding American's/Canadians?
I often have to repeat myself to an Austrian friend.
2.How are Atheists treated in Southern USA?
Like normal people, except that religious people constantly try to debate with you.
3.Do people believe that the water spins the other way in the Northern Hemisphere?
Eh, I don't think so.
4.Is there Internet slang in other languages?
Yes. It'd take me hours to post all the non-English internet slang I know...
5.Is it really that hard adjusting to driving on snow in places where you don't see it often?
I live in a snowy area... so I don't often have to adjust to it.
6.Can someone from Quebec and someone from France understand each other if they're both speaking French?
I'd think so.
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Re: Questions For The World

Postby Rinsaikeru » Fri Sep 25, 2009 11:37 pm UTC

Cold wrote:6.Can someone from Quebec and someone from France understand each other if they're both speaking French?
I'd think so.


It depends.

Quebecois sounds different to the ear from french I've heard in France. It's more nasal and the vowels are 'broader' sounding to me. Oui sounds like Ouweh in Quebecois to my ear.

Apparently it's quite easy for people from Quebec to understand France French because a lot of French media has crossed the Atlantic. It can be more difficult for those from France to understand Quebecois, particularly due to the amount of different slang and loan words used in Quebec.
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