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Re: Questions For The World

Postby SecondTalon » Sun Jun 14, 2015 1:16 pm UTC

... A shaved sheep, right? Right? Right?

That's still pretty bad, but a lot more forgivable.
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Re: Questions For The World

Postby Pfhorrest » Sun Jun 14, 2015 6:04 pm UTC

Angua wrote:I've never noticed goats cheese smelling like goat. However, I've heard some people swear they can tell the difference between mutton and goat by the smell (personally, I've always felt this was like telling the difference between coke and pepsi), but who knows. Maybe some people are more sensitive to goat.

Pepsi tastes nothing like Coke or any other cola (which all taste like Coke).

I have also never noticed goat cheese smelling like goats through, but then I'm not frequently around goats enough to recall how they smell beyond the general farm / livestock mix of smells.
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Re: Questions For The World

Postby bentheimmigrant » Sun Jun 14, 2015 6:27 pm UTC

Ate a lot of Manchego this afternoon. Can confirm: Sheep's cheese is also awesome.
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Postby Quercus » Sun Jun 14, 2015 6:54 pm UTC

Manchego is pretty great. I used to have a Spanish housemate who would bring back several different manchegos, hams and dry sausages when she would visit her family. Those were some excellent meals!

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Re: Questions For The World

Postby Liri » Mon Jun 15, 2015 3:00 am UTC

I used Manchego instead of Pecorino Romano in the lasagna I made the other night (this recipe, but I leave out the eggplant). It worked really well (absolutely make this lasagna, it is crazy good).

Chevre is some sweet-ass cheese. If it wasn't so pricey I'd eat a tube(?) of it a day.
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Re: Questions For The World

Postby addams » Mon Jun 15, 2015 6:22 am UTC

bentheimmigrant wrote:We need to set up blind smell tests to see if people can tell the difference between sheep and goats.

I Know I can.

Even wild sheep smell a little of lanolin.
The newly bald ones smell a lot of lanolin.
Or; Some other sheepy thing.

I like sheep cheese.
well...I think I do.

Sheep cheese is a, somewhat, rare and exotic luxury, for me.
I've only eaten it a few times, that I know of.

I've never milked a sheep.
Must you keep the ewes shaved?

How in the world do you find her utter under all that fir?
I wonder if anyone has ever milked an Elk.

Our Elk are Roosevelt.
They are nearly the size of Thoroughbred horses.
What a funny idea. Not much bending over.

Someone has milked a horse.
I bet, someone has milked an Elk.
Was it done on a bet? Very maybe.
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Re: Questions For The World

Postby Angua » Mon Jun 15, 2015 6:32 am UTC

SecondTalon wrote:... A shaved sheep, right? Right? Right?

That's still pretty bad, but a lot more forgivable.

Ah, but you see the problem they run into is that our sheep don't grow wool either.

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Re: Questions For The World

Postby addams » Mon Jun 15, 2015 8:28 am UTC

Your sheep look like goats to me.
Are they All pregnant?

The little one is such a fur ball.
They are So cute.

Remember; (long pointless goat centered post)
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I think anyone that has spent much time with them has stories of exasperation to despair caused by cloven hoofs.
They are like children. Some people have a greater tolerance for their weird shit than others do.

I like the dumb things.
I know they are a lot of work.

Have you ever heard the quip, "That's why we can't have nice things."?
Goats have no respect for nice things. Many children are that way.

Some children outgrow it.
Goats never do.

They are, for the most part, goat involved idiots.
Beware! If a cluster of goats can get to your car, it will never be the same.

I've seen them tap dance on cars.
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Re: Questions For The World

Postby bachaddict » Mon Jun 15, 2015 9:29 am UTC

addams wrote:
bentheimmigrant wrote:We need to set up blind smell tests to see if people can tell the difference between sheep and goats.

I Know I can.

Even wild sheep smell a little of lanolin.
The newly bald ones smell a lot of lanolin.
Or; Some other sheepy thing.

I like sheep cheese.
well...I think I do.

Sheep cheese is a, somewhat, rare and exotic luxury, for me.
I've only eaten it a few times, that I know of.

I've never milked a sheep.
Must you keep the ewes shaved?

How in the world do you find her utter under all that fir?
I wonder if anyone has ever milked an Elk.


Wool doesn't grow on the udder, so it hangs out quite visibly, especially when it has been through a few lactating cycles.
At least I assume so; our goat's udders are almost invisible until they've been stretched out by lactation.
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Re: Questions For The World

Postby Angua » Mon Jun 15, 2015 10:14 am UTC

Yeah, goats on cars is a pain. Used to happen a lot to the teachers' cars at school (and I went to a school in town).

The top picture is of sheep, the bottom picture of goats. An easy way to tell is that sheep's tails go down, while goats' go up, but they also have different shaped heads (sheep are more rounded). Also, sheep don't tend to jump up to get things that are out of reach at much, whereas goats prop themselves up to eat things.
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Re: Questions For The World

Postby bachaddict » Mon Jun 15, 2015 11:06 am UTC

And here was me thinking the difference was the length and curliness of the hair!
In my defence I have never seen short-haired sheep around here.
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Re: Questions For The World

Postby Neil_Boekend » Mon Jun 15, 2015 12:34 pm UTC

Goat cheese smells distinctly goaty to me. As for sheep cheese: I don't know. The only sheep cheese I consume regularly is Roquefort and there the smell of the Penicillium roqueforti kinda overwhelms the native smell of the cheese.
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Re: Questions For The World

Postby Grop » Mon Jun 15, 2015 8:02 pm UTC

I am eating some sheep cheese that isn't roquefort right now ; it has a very distinct smell that I wouldn't notice normally (without paying attention and holding it very close to my nose). Like most goat cheese it tastes more acid than most cow cheese. If blind tested I would probably assume it was goat cheese.

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Re: Questions For The World

Postby addams » Mon Jun 15, 2015 9:21 pm UTC

Angua wrote:Yeah, goats on cars is a pain. Used to happen a lot to the teachers' cars at school (and I went to a school in town).

The top picture is of sheep, the bottom picture of goats. An easy way to tell is that sheep's tails go down, while goats' go up, but they also have different shaped heads (sheep are more rounded). Also, sheep don't tend to jump up to get things that are out of reach at much, whereas goats prop themselves up to eat things.

That is so surprising.
A sheep that is not wooly.

ok. Note to self:
Tail up=Goat.
Tail down=Sheep

What do you know about the short haired sheep?
Why? How? When? did that happen?

Has it always been so?
I, just, didn't know?

ok. Goats on the teacher's cars?...hum...
You must have some good stories, if you have farm animals roaming the parking lot.
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Re: Questions For The World

Postby ucim » Tue Jun 16, 2015 2:38 am UTC

So... Why does cow cheese come in so many named varieties, but goat cheese is just named that?

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Re: Questions For The World

Postby poxic » Tue Jun 16, 2015 2:48 am UTC

There is goat brie, and probably other goat cheeses (and the sound of that last phrase makes me want to go do an image search*). But we have way, way more cow's milk in these parts than goat or sheep, so nearly all cheese is cow cheese. We don't bother labeling it because it's the default.

Also because "cow cheese" sound awful.

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Re: Questions For The World

Postby Carlington » Tue Jun 16, 2015 3:24 am UTC

Feta, chèvre, labneh, halloumi (kinda) are a few named goat's cheeses I know. I know more cow cheeses though, ad I guess there's probably more cow cheeses to know.
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Re: Questions For The World

Postby Adacore » Tue Jun 16, 2015 3:51 am UTC

Carlington wrote:Feta, chèvre, labneh, halloumi (kinda) are a few named goat's cheeses I know. I know more cow cheeses though, ad I guess there's probably more cow cheeses to know.

I think in part the fact that we distinguish goat's cheese and sheep's cheese explicitly is because sheep's milk and goat's milk are actually very similar, so most cheeses that call for one can be made with either. Every example named here can be made with either sheep's milk or goat's milk - or a mixture of the two - with the exception of chèvre (which means 'goat' in French, and when talking about cheese is equivalent to just saying "goat's cheese" in French, as far as I can tell).

There are some named cheeses that specifically call for goat's milk, but many named cheeses can be (and are often) made with the milk of more than one different animals depending on the producer.

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Re: Questions For The World

Postby Neil_Boekend » Tue Jun 16, 2015 9:41 am UTC

ucim wrote:So... Why does cow cheese come in so many named varieties, but goat cheese is just named that?

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Goat cheese comes in many named varieties (not as many as cow cheese though :( ). "Goat cheese" is just a useful name for all of them,if you have no specific one in mind.
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Re: Questions For The World

Postby eSOANEM » Tue Jun 16, 2015 11:54 am UTC

Yeah, goats' cheese is the equivalent of blue cheese. It's a class of cheeses but, just as blue cheese is subdivided into stilton, gorgonzola and various others, goats' cheese also is; it just tends to be less popular (particularly in the anglophone world as far as I can tell) so people know fewer specific names.
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Postby Quercus » Tue Jun 16, 2015 12:18 pm UTC

I think if I ever move to the US or Canada, with their ridiculous restrictions on fresh raw milk cheeses, I shall have to go on a "cheese mourning" tour of France (or, more likely, my local cheese shop) so I can try all my favourite cheeses one last time and say goodbye to them. I've just found out that the best goat's milk cheeses in the world IMO, Rocamadour and Valençay, are both illegal in the US and Canada :(

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Postby SecondTalon » Tue Jun 16, 2015 1:37 pm UTC

Illegal to sell and illegal to transfer.

So buy a goat and make'em yourself. Other than that being an insane amount of work, what's the problem?
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Re: Questions For The World

Postby addams » Tue Jun 16, 2015 11:29 pm UTC

Right.
It's not like you are growing a Pot plant in Ohio.
edit: Or; In France.
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Re: Questions For The World

Postby bentheimmigrant » Wed Jun 17, 2015 7:36 pm UTC

eSOANEM wrote:Yeah, goats' cheese is the equivalent of blue cheese. It's a class of cheeses but, just as blue cheese is subdivided into stilton, gorgonzola and various others, goats' cheese also is; it just tends to be less popular (particularly in the anglophone world as far as I can tell) so people know fewer specific names.

Kinda. I mean, when you see a pizza that says it has goats cheese on it, you know exactly what it means. That slightly dry, crumbly, moist cheese shaped into a little cylinder.
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Re: Questions For The World

Postby Liri » Wed Jun 17, 2015 8:54 pm UTC

One of my housemates just took a short trip to NYC and brought me back some illegal cheese.

It is terrifyingly orange. Strongly flavored. Pretty hard. Cave aged.
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Postby Quercus » Wed Jun 17, 2015 9:08 pm UTC

bentheimmigrant wrote:
eSOANEM wrote:Yeah, goats' cheese is the equivalent of blue cheese. It's a class of cheeses but, just as blue cheese is subdivided into stilton, gorgonzola and various others, goats' cheese also is; it just tends to be less popular (particularly in the anglophone world as far as I can tell) so people know fewer specific names.

Kinda. I mean, when you see a pizza that says it has goats cheese on it, you know exactly what it means. That slightly dry, crumbly, moist cheese shaped into a little cylinder.


That's because "goat's cheese" has come to refer, at least in the UK, to one particular type of goat's cheese. My favourite cheeses, mentioned above, are both soft, gooey cheeses (at least when ripe) and are shaped into a tiny round disc (like a 1/4 scale brie) and a square base pyramid respectively.

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Postby Jumble » Wed Jun 17, 2015 9:30 pm UTC

Ya'know, I was expecting the battle after my previous comments to be about Marmite, but goat's cheese is good (or not, in my opinion). Anyway, carry on.
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Postby Neil_Boekend » Thu Jun 18, 2015 9:00 am UTC

Most goat cheese I eat is kinda like normal Dutch cow cheese. Because I can't eat cow's cheese (allergy) but I do like to eat cheese about as much as the next Nederlander.
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Re: Questions For The World

Postby addams » Thu Jun 18, 2015 9:18 am UTC

Are you able to eat the cheese of land clouds?
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Postby Neil_Boekend » Thu Jun 18, 2015 9:54 am UTC

addams wrote:Are you able to eat the cheese of land clouds?

Yep. I love Roquefort. For example in a portobello on the bbq.
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Postby addams » Thu Jun 18, 2015 10:50 am UTC

Yummy.
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Postby SecondTalon » Thu Jun 18, 2015 2:56 pm UTC

Jumble wrote:Ya'know, I was expecting the battle after my previous comments to be about Marmite, but goat's cheese is good (or not, in my opinion). Anyway, carry on.

I'm pretty sure even die-hard fans of Marmite say "Yeah, I can see how a person would find this absolutely awful"

But goat cheese? What's not to like? (Rhetorical question - you don't like it, I accept that. Don't understand it, but I ain't you, so just means ever so slightly more for me)
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Postby eran_rathan » Thu Jun 18, 2015 3:49 pm UTC

My utter favorite is Gjetost. So rich and buttery and nutty and wonderful.
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Re: Questions For The World

Postby addams » Thu Jun 18, 2015 10:36 pm UTC

Does any other animal compulsively or other wise, consistently move fucking Rocks??!

I was moving Rocks! As I was judging distance by, "I think I can."'s,
I wondered, "If I'm so smart Why am I moving rocks?"

I was a fleeting thought.
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Human beings move Rocks.
Human beings stack Rocks.

Some do both."

I know some people leave rock right where they found them.
Still...Does any other animal do Rocks?

Maybe, it's not Tools that sets us apart from other animals.
Maybe it is our relationship to Rocks that sets us apart.
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Re: Questions For The World

Postby Adacore » Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:56 am UTC

SecondTalon wrote:
Jumble wrote:Ya'know, I was expecting the battle after my previous comments to be about Marmite, but goat's cheese is good (or not, in my opinion). Anyway, carry on.

I'm pretty sure even die-hard fans of Marmite say "Yeah, I can see how a person would find this absolutely awful"

My girlfriend is an English teacher at a Korean high school. A couple of weeks ago she gave her students samples of Marmite on toast for a 'British cultural experience' as a prank - she knew the students would be really excited about trying new foreign food, and that they'd probably hate Marmite, and she was right. She got them to review it as a writing assignment and the comments were hilarious (and uniformly negative). Meat pies the following week went down a storm, though.

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Re: Questions For The World

Postby addams » Fri Jun 19, 2015 3:27 am UTC

I'd like to read what they had to say.
I'd like it in a translation to English.

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Re: Questions For The World

Postby Angua » Fri Jun 19, 2015 8:03 am UTC

I once met a raven that apparently liked picking up small rocks and placing them in the holes of the stone wall. (It was one of those ravens that people use to raise awareness for ravens, so was often at the same wall).
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Re: Questions For The World

Postby bachaddict » Fri Jun 19, 2015 10:11 am UTC

addams wrote:I'd like to read what they had to say.
I'd like it in a translation to English.

Marmite is not a nice food.

It's like hot sauce: most people hate it on its own or in excess.
The right amount on a cheese toastie is delicious.
slinches wrote:Also, the OTC isn't a disease. In fact, it's the cure. As we all know, Time heals all wounds.

Thanks for the molpish wig ggh!
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Re: Questions For The World

Postby addams » Fri Jun 19, 2015 10:30 am UTC

Angua wrote:I once met a raven that apparently liked picking up small rocks and placing them in the holes of the stone wall. (It was one of those ravens that people use to raise awareness for ravens, so was often at the same wall).

Yes. I thought of birds.
Birds also use tools.

But...We, humans, are an odd bunch.
Marmite and all.

We eat such a wide variety of stuff.
We play with our food before we eat it.

The jug of wine, loaf of bread and chunk of cheese in the picnic basket take nearly a year to produce.
For some of our buildings it took more than one hundred years to move the rocks and stack them.

It's no wonder some people think we came from outer space.
Nothing else on this planet is anywhere near as weird as we are.
Life is, just, an exchange of electrons; It is up to us to give it meaning.

We are all in The Gutter.
Some of us see The Gutter.
Some of us see The Stars.
by mr. Oscar Wilde.

Those that want to Know; Know.
Those that do not Know; Don't tell them.
They do terrible things to people that Tell Them.

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Re: Questions For The World

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