Kachi wrote:I really hope you're not suggesting that whether or not something is currently socially acceptable is the "gold" standard for deciding whether or not to actually do it.
Not all, although I might add that social standards generally exist for a reason, espescially when it comes to hygienic practices, really most of that post was making fun of Rat because he was frankly taking the whole thing way too seriously.
And I'm sorry you apparently piss on and/or brush your teeth with your fucking keyboard
I'm sure he's alluding to the fact that the average toilet seat is substantially cleaner than many household appliances, such as keyboards, doorknobs, remote controls, and telephones, because they are frequently touched by hand and almost never cleaned.
most of the grime on such things however is mostly dead-skin-cells, other assorted dust, maybe some sweat stains and/or oil, at worst it's still not exactly a breeding place for germs, not to say that germs can't be transmitted here, as they most assuredly can, but it's about the same risk as just about every other form of human contact, and Diseases aren't my concern anyway.
Kachi wrote: So complaining about a few microscopic mist droplets that might touch something (and probably evaporate completely shortly after) comes across as a bit hypocritic when most people have no problems exposing themselves to such dirty surfaces daily and then touching their faces, eating, what have you. FYI, I clean mine. Nevermind that the flouride in your toothpaste will almost undoubtedly kill any germs that might have misted onto your toothbrush even if that were actually a concern.
I said germs aren't my concern, Pee is generally sterile after all, but that doesn't make it good for you, oh no, not by a long shot! Like I said before, it's a stew of nasty chemicals, toxins and other chemicals that degrade into ammonia, which isn't exactly good for you either. You know what happens when it evaporates? well, it doesn't, not completely, like just about every other mixture, it leaves behind a residue, in this case, a residue of of salts and toxins and other nasty chemicals. Fluoridation won't help you here, nor will soap. Yes, that yellow ring around your toilet bowl (well, your
sink) is urine residue, takes a mite bit more cleaning than your normal sink grime too and over time can corrode your sink (depending on what it's made of, porcelain is pretty resistant to that kind of stuff, but non-porcelain sinks generally aren't) you may be fine with a yellow, corroded sink bowl, many of us aren't.
So what about when you have to shake out the last few drops with your weenie right over the sink?
They go into the sink.
I can't imagine someone thinking 'I'm going to save water by pissing in the sink where I compulsively wash my hands, Sterile, convenient, and good for the environment too!' where does that sort of thought come from? there's really nothing about it I can think of as redeeming in any way.
That's fine, but so far you haven't well supported your hypothesis. I would say that your conclusion doesn't hold water.
I might throw out there that I am a health professional, and very familiar with disease control, so if you're going to seriously argue with me over a light-hearted suggestion, bring more ammo. I'm not insinuating that I'm always right, but it's not something that I nonchalantly decided to throw out there without looking into first.
Disease control isn't my concern. As for holding water, Why do I ask, do you consider that an admirable goal?
The world is 70+% water, it always has been, and unless we start shooting lots of it into space it always will be.
'Oh, but only $_ridiculously_small percent of that is fresh water! And $_large percent of that
is locked up in the icecaps!' you might say.
You know what? Do you want to? It has always been that way, and unless something happens on a massive scale, that's not going to change any time soon. Salt water will evaporate into fresh-water, rain or snow on land and run into rivers and soak into aquifers and flow back into the ocean and the whole time the amount of accesible fresh-water on the planet didn't change enough to be noticed, not even after the process runs for billions of years and that fresh water starts getting drunk by all kinds of creatures who just squirt it back into the system.
All that water you've 'saved' by pissing in your sink? You know where it goes? back into the system.
some municipal water systems use waste reclamation, some use a local lake, sometimes there's a different system for black water (your toilet water, generally this is dumped into a lake or other reservoir even if gray-water is reclaimed). But in the end, nothing is changing, water you use at some point evaporates, or is dumped into a reservoir and evaporates, and in the end, it all just goes back in the system to be part of that $_ridiculously_small percent of the earth's water supply that is fresh.
So, if you live in a desert and water has to be pumped to you expensively through a limited capacity pipe-line, then go ahead, piss in the sink to save water, because for you, it is indeed a precious commodity. If you get water from a reservoir that is just a bit too small for the community it services? Go ahead, piss in the sink. If you get water from a well? Go ahead piss in the sink.f
If you want to save the environment? Ride your bike, take a bus, don't use aerosol sprays, but go ahead and piss in your toilet all you want.
Communities can suffer from a limited water supply, in these cases saving water in some areas ensures there's plenty for everyone and all their needs. But saving water locally isn't going to affect the global water supply, it isn't going to save the environment, nobody in Ethiopia will benefit from your water frugality, nor will it stop global warming or deforestation or what-have-you.
Piss in the sink all you want, but do it to save water, not the environment.
I won't even start on the swirly light-bulb and how environmentally 'friendly' it is to manufacture and dispose of (protip: Use LED lightbulbs instead).