Spuddly wrote:Don't get me wrong; I appreciate that you continue to spend cash on objectified women, because they are a great deal more attractive than empowered women. I'm just calling you guys on the hypocrisy of blaming producers when it's actually a problem of demand. No one is going to make something that isn't wanted.
Hm, what do you mean by the first sentence here? That you think that attempts to have empowered women tend to go too far in desexualizing them for your taste? Or do you mean that having women with fleshed out personalities and roles besides stereotypical love-interest/eye-candy is in itself less attractive in your eyes? Could you clarify that? Because to be honest, that statement sounds a little bit like you're just trying to provoke a hostile reaction.
As for the second point, what I was trying to convey is that when it comes to altering demand for a product, you still have to be purchasing something in the market to really have a voice (as Belial was pointing out.) Especially since people who have a problem with objectification are probably in the minority, a much bigger impact can be made by purchasing stuff that has the qualities you want, rather than boycotting stuff that does not. Also, because the majority of stuff (including extremely well-crafted stuff) does have issues with its depictions of women, one has to weigh the potential gains of passing it up against the loss of an otherwise well-made product. Passing something up entirely because of a flaw in one area is a recipe for missing out on a lot of good stuff. But expressing complaints about the one failing a good product has, while also purchasing stuff that is better in that area, may allow positive impact without sacrificing the good stuff.
It seems like you've been arguing from a rhetorical position to point out flaws in certain criticisms. I'm curious, what is your actual view when it comes to feminism and specifically criticisms concerning depictions of women in popular media. I mean aside from what you consider the hypocrisy of the people making the criticisms themselves, what do you think of the content of the criticisms?