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What order is your cutlery in?

Spoon, Fork, Knife
31
29%
Spoon, Knife, Fork
2
2%
Fork, Spoon, Knife
21
20%
Fork, Knife, Spoon
9
8%
Knife, Fork, Spoon
35
33%
Knife, Spoon, Fork
9
8%
 
Total votes: 107

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Important Issues: Cutlery Drawer

Postby InstinctSage » Fri Feb 13, 2009 12:14 am UTC

This is just one of those little things that bugs me. I am perfectly aware it is completely superfluous, but much like the state of pockets in this day and age, I enjoy making a big deal out of it.

So please indulge me and let's have a hearty discussion about the proper way to arrange your cutlery drawer. To keep things simple for the poll we'll ignore whether you separate dessert and soup spoons. We'll ignore potato peelers, teaspoons, sporks, steak knives and any other utensils. Not every cutlery drawer is equal, but even the most basic of drawers contain 3 basic compartments. This is the focus of the cutlery drawer, it's beating heart, if you will.
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And much like a beating heart, if it's arranged improperly or clogged with bits going where they shouldn't, arrhythmia, heart attack and the like can result.

Discussion on what other utensils belong in the top drawer (and I hope your cutlery drawers ARE the top drawer, nobody wants their heart below their intestines) is welcome, as is discussion on any other cutlery drawer related issues. I hope we can at least come to agree that, whatever arrangement you use, the forks should be left of the knifes, as is proper for any table setting. 8)
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Re: Important Issues: Cutlery Drawer

Postby ninjacore » Fri Feb 13, 2009 12:37 am UTC

I chose spoon fork knife cause it was the closest but mine actually go

spoons, forks
and the knives go horizontally underneath.

so take that fork-first nazis!

If it makes it any better they are the top drawer.
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Re: Important Issues: Cutlery Drawer

Postby laserbeen » Fri Feb 13, 2009 12:54 am UTC

Fork, Spoon, Knife.

The same order that they will be in on the table.
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Re: Important Issues: Cutlery Drawer

Postby rnew » Fri Feb 13, 2009 12:55 am UTC

My current kitchen has the fork knife spoon combo, which is confusing as my mums house is the opposite. we need consistency here people!
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Re: Important Issues: Cutlery Drawer

Postby ethraax » Fri Feb 13, 2009 1:22 am UTC

Forks, forks, big spoons, small spoons, knifes + bigger spoons. Underneath are serrated spoons (for eating things like grapefruit), ladles, and other misc cutlery. Very big spoons go in a separate drawer on the other end of the kitchen.

The knife/bigger spoons spot: The knifes tend to ride up and over the edge, farther into the drawer, and out of their spot. It bothers me more than it should.

Also, on the utensil rack we have forks, knifes, big spoons, small spoons, small forks, 8 of each (4 on each side). I make sure this is always organized.

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Re: Important Issues: Cutlery Drawer

Postby InstinctSage » Fri Feb 13, 2009 1:31 am UTC

rnew wrote:My current kitchen has the fork knife spoon combo, which is confusing as my mums house is the opposite. we need consistency here people!

Why don't you swap them around?
I used to swap my friend's cutlery drawers around when I visited. It pissed them off. :P
But seriously, how confusing is it when it's different. People are so absent minded about collecting cutlery from the drawer.
Especially if your kitchen and cutlery drawer design is such that you cannot see the top of the utensil when you open the drawer a comfortable distance.

Edit: I'm surprised at the number of knife fork spoon people. I would have thought if anything was as common as SFK and FSK it would be FKS, as the forks and knifes are still left and right of each other, as on a table.
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Re: Important Issues: Cutlery Drawer

Postby Surgery » Fri Feb 13, 2009 1:34 am UTC

The utensil drawer at my place is a complete mess. Everything is just piled in there willy-nilly in one big hole, you have to dig to find things sometimes. We used to have a rubber band to hold it all together (still not organized, one rubber band held everything in a bundle) but that disappeared long ago. The only kind of organization is that the mixer blades and bamboo utensils go in the drawer by the stove.

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Re: Important Issues: Cutlery Drawer

Postby Sharlos » Fri Feb 13, 2009 1:38 am UTC

my order changes every time I do the dishes.

Also, being left handed, putting cutlery in any particular order on a table is a stupid waste of time.

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Re: Important Issues: Cutlery Drawer

Postby aging.child » Fri Feb 13, 2009 2:06 am UTC

Hmm. Big spoons, forks, spoons for eating, knives, then various pointy objects. I'm sure they have some food-related use, but I'm not good with that stuff.

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Re: Important Issues: Cutlery Drawer

Postby Luthen » Fri Feb 13, 2009 2:52 am UTC

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Top drawer: Knives (both full and butter); forks; normal spoons; straws and junk | teaspoons
Second drawer: Cake slice, ladle; cake forks; fish knives; soup spoons; bread knives | desert spoon and forks

Our silverwear is in another set of draws and I can't remember how it goes.

I'm surprised about our drawers and actually thought a few days ago that they should be FKS (can't move the spoons, we're too braindead at breakfast). Maybe because table is set FK and FS more than KS so forks should be in the middle.

Now when I get home I'm going to have to check all my drawers like a crazy person.
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Re: Important Issues: Cutlery Drawer

Postby InstinctSage » Fri Feb 13, 2009 3:24 am UTC

Sharlos wrote:my order changes every time I do the dishes.

Also, being left handed, putting cutlery in any particular order on a table is a stupid waste of time.

Interesting... you mean being left handed means you hold your knife in your left hand, and therefore would set the table that way?
I never considered that.
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Re: Important Issues: Cutlery Drawer

Postby Carnildo » Fri Feb 13, 2009 3:37 am UTC

None of the above. My utensil drawer has a five-compartment divider arranged as follows:

Specialty knives, ordinary knives, forks, serving spoons
Eating spoons across the bottom.

Outsized or unusual utensils go outside the divider: chopsticks across the bottom, large items to the right.

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Re: Important Issues: Cutlery Drawer

Postby InstinctSage » Fri Feb 13, 2009 4:03 am UTC

I'd say the closest approximation would be knife spoon fork given the information provided.
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Re: Important Issues: Cutlery Drawer

Postby Ilyan » Fri Feb 13, 2009 4:18 am UTC

i love topics like these. spoon knife fork. i guess im the only one

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Re: Important Issues: Cutlery Drawer

Postby InstinctSage » Fri Feb 13, 2009 4:45 am UTC

Why are the knives left of the forks? I just don't get it.
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Re: Important Issues: Cutlery Drawer

Postby Osha » Fri Feb 13, 2009 6:16 am UTC

I can't vote for any of those!
Why is there no option for "all mixed up"??? :cry:

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Re: Important Issues: Cutlery Drawer

Postby Pizzashark » Fri Feb 13, 2009 6:19 am UTC

Knives, spoons, forks. They're mostly ordered in that way. The drawer with large knives, scissors, whisks, and the other cooking stuff has no order whatsoever - it's all just tossed in there.
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Re: Important Issues: Cutlery Drawer

Postby Sharlos » Fri Feb 13, 2009 7:38 am UTC

InstinctSage wrote:
Sharlos wrote:my order changes every time I do the dishes.

Also, being left handed, putting cutlery in any particular order on a table is a stupid waste of time.

Interesting... you mean being left handed means you hold your knife in your left hand, and therefore would set the table that way?
I never considered that.


Yeah, pretty much. Of course this is assuming I actually set the table. Which I don't. But in he rare event that I do set a table it would go like that.

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Re: Important Issues: Cutlery Drawer

Postby eternal luna » Fri Feb 13, 2009 7:56 am UTC

Knife-fork-spoon-dessert spoon-chopstick.

Because I like to remove the sharpest of utensils from the the cutlery-caddy of the dishwasher first (less stabbings), and left-to-right just feels natural.

It absolutely must be in this order. Though the lower drawer is a massive jumble of meat scissors, huge serrated knives with double-stabbing bread points, ladles, and wooden spoons/spatulas.
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Re: Important Issues: Cutlery Drawer

Postby Xeio » Fri Feb 13, 2009 8:24 am UTC

Rounded-knife, Stabby-knife, spoon/fork (whichever, it's randomized every time the dishes are done), spoon/fork (whichever is not on the left)

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Re: Important Issues: Cutlery Drawer

Postby benjhuey » Fri Feb 13, 2009 8:31 am UTC

Currently, my cutlery is plastic and sits in the boxes in which it came. Back at home, however, things went knives|forks|spoons|large spoons|steak knives. There were a few other things in that drawer, but all the preparation utensils (e.g. ladles, whisks, peelers, spatulas) were cluttered in the drawer to the left. Finally, large knives for chopping and such were in a drawer further to the left on the opposite side of the oven.

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Re: Important Issues: Cutlery Drawer

Postby pikacheeks » Fri Feb 13, 2009 8:50 am UTC

Knife fork spoon.

That is the way it must be. I feel very strongly about the issue too. Any other variation and I may have an actual nervous breakdown/other episode.

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Postby Pizzashark » Fri Feb 13, 2009 9:00 am UTC

The spoon's rotundness (rotundity?) interrupts the feng shui of the spikes and sharp edges, huh?
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Re: Important Issues: Cutlery Drawer

Postby Red Hal » Fri Feb 13, 2009 9:07 am UTC

Our cutlery drawer has five longitudinal (front to back) compartments and one transverse compartment. The leftmost longitudinal compartment runs the full length (front to back) of the drawer, and the transverse compartment is anterior to the four shorter longitudinal compartments.

From left to right, the longitudinal compartments are ordered thusly: Spoons (including dessert, soup and table, but excluding tea), starter forks, main forks, main knives, starter knives. The transverse compartment contains teaspoons and other small specialist cutlery (cheese knives etc). We have a second cutlery drawer to the left which contains all other specialist items; steak knives and forks (forks on the right), small sharp knives, escargot tongs and forks, fish knives and forks, fondue forks and so on.

The drawer to the left of that contains a collection of small furry mammals in various states of repair, playing cards, bits of string, various small screws and washers, electrical tape, small houshold good parts that were never replaced in their proper position during my occasional forays into "maintenance", a defunct GPS unit, three different colours of electrical tape and a replica walther PPK with the left-hand grip missing.

ON Edit: Cooking utensils (spatulas, long chopsticks, ladles and so on) are in a pot to the left of the hob, and to the left of that is a magnetic knife rack where the utility knives are kept. I'm a little compulsive about keeping the knives sharp enough to shave my forearm with, which is a little wierd, but that's always been a bugbear of mine so I don't worry too uch about it.

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Re: Important Issues: Cutlery Drawer

Postby roc314 » Fri Feb 13, 2009 9:13 am UTC

Osha wrote:I can't vote for any of those!
Why is there no option for "all mixed up"??? :cry:
IFLP.

Why does this poll hate those of us too lazy to organize their eating utensils?
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Re: Important Issues: Cutlery Drawer

Postby InstinctSage » Fri Feb 13, 2009 10:27 am UTC

pikacheeks wrote:Knife fork spoon.

That is the way it must be. I feel very strongly about the issue too. Any other variation and I may have an actual nervous breakdown/other episode.

But why? Now I realise if you're left handed this set up would make perfect sense. But knives on the left of forks is ludicrous under other circumstances...
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Why is there no option for "all mixed up"??? :cry:
IFLP.

Why does this poll hate those of us too lazy to organize their eating utensils?

Do you keep all your books, DVDs and CDs in a pile in the corner?
Perhaps I should have created such an option, but I honestly sat there double checking the options I made and said to myself, satisfied "No, no there is no other ways to organise a cutlery drawer."

Not for a second did I imagine there would be those among us who would not organise their cutlery.
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Postby roc314 » Fri Feb 13, 2009 10:32 am UTC

InstinctSage wrote:Do you keep all your books, DVDs and CDs in a pile in the corner?
Perhaps I should have created such an option, but I honestly sat there double checking the options I made and said to myself, satisfied "No, no there is no other ways to organise a cutlery drawer."

Not for a second did I imagine there would be those among us who would not organise their cutlery.
Actually, yes, to an extent. The stuff that's not being actively used is organized. The stuff that is being constantly used ends up in an increasingly growing pile until I take the time to sort it out. It can be an accomplishment keeping it away from the middle of the floor.

Cutlery, being used on a daily basis, usually falls into the latter category.
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Re: Important Issues: Cutlery Drawer

Postby Hyphe » Fri Feb 13, 2009 10:35 am UTC

Osha wrote:I can't vote for any of those!
Why is there no option for "all mixed up"??? :cry:


Don't worry, Osha! Ignore all these grumps who say you have to organise your cutlery! Rebel! We should take our cutlery drawer dividers and throw them on bonfires! Down with their totalitarian compartments!

Spoon, fork, knife. Chopsticks and small knives to the right, teaspoons and potato peelers to the front. If the draw has space, larger knives to the back.

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Re: Important Issues: Cutlery Drawer

Postby InstinctSage » Fri Feb 13, 2009 10:43 am UTC

roc314 wrote:Actually, yes, to an extent. The stuff that's not being actively used is organized. The stuff that is being constantly used ends up in an increasingly growing pile until I take the time to sort it out. It can be an accomplishment keeping it away from the middle of the floor.

Cutlery, being used on a daily basis, usually falls into the latter category.

Well, that's fair enough I suppose.
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But I suppose, given the question posed is how one organises their cutlery drawer, abstaining from the vote would suggest one doesn't. So it's de-facto covered.
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Re: Important Issues: Cutlery Drawer

Postby pikacheeks » Fri Feb 13, 2009 3:44 pm UTC

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pikacheeks wrote:Knife fork spoon.

That is the way it must be. I feel very strongly about the issue too. Any other variation and I may have an actual nervous breakdown/other episode.

But why? Now I realise if you're left handed this set up would make perfect sense. But knives on the left of forks is ludicrous under other circumstances...

Because that’s just the way that things should be.
It flows nicely this way. A knife is too different to the spoon to sit next to it. A fork is like a happy medium, a fork is what would happen if a spoon and a knife ever had sex.


Unorganised cutlery is too horrible to even imagine.

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Re: Important Issues: Cutlery Drawer

Postby semicharmed » Fri Feb 13, 2009 4:39 pm UTC

At my parent's house, we have a dearth of drawer space in the kitchen, so the cutlery lives in an upright bin on the counter, forks/spoons/teaspoons/knives all together.
In my school apartment, we also have no cutlery-appropriate drawer space, and basically no countertops, so we keep the cutlery in a wall hanger (think an over the door shoe-holder, but with four pockets. Made for silverware.
And in there, it's forks | spoons
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Re: Important Issues: Cutlery Drawer

Postby natraj » Fri Feb 13, 2009 4:42 pm UTC

Fork, Knife, Spoon. Like the way they are supposed to go at the table place-setting.
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Re: Important Issues: Cutlery Drawer

Postby 0range » Fri Feb 13, 2009 5:43 pm UTC

I think having a good set of knives is a more pressing issue than proper cutlery arrangement. There's nothing more disappointing than staying with someone whose kitchen is lacking in that department.
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Re: Important Issues: Cutlery Drawer

Postby Osha » Fri Feb 13, 2009 6:04 pm UTC

InstinctSage wrote:But I suppose, given the question posed is how one organises their cutlery drawer, abstaining from the vote would suggest one doesn't. So it's de-facto covered.

No no no no no! Can't you see ?!?! This just ties in with the system of oppression used to treat messy people as invisible. :x

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Postby Kidiri » Fri Feb 13, 2009 6:45 pm UTC

Spoon fork knife. But I am fearing for when the forks and spoons realize they can reproduce...

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Re: Important Issues: Cutlery Drawer

Postby the tree » Fri Feb 13, 2009 7:56 pm UTC

Currently everything is in the sink and fuck me if I'm going to be washing it all up.

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Re: Important Issues: Cutlery Drawer

Postby bigstrat2003 » Fri Feb 13, 2009 8:07 pm UTC

Knife, spoon, fork. They are arranged in order of importance from right to left. Forks: almost always useful, spoons: often useful, knives*: almost never useful. Also, it's the way my momma did it, so I'm just used to it after having had that arrangement all my life.

*I mean butter knives, sharp knives are in a different drawer using my cutlery arrangement.

EDIT: Actually, what the tree said. That's basically how my kitchen is arranged right now. I need to stop being lazy, and wash more than one thing at a time. Maybe this weekend I'll do it.

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Re: Important Issues: Cutlery Drawer

Postby InstinctSage » Sat Feb 14, 2009 12:29 am UTC

I don't really know what to make of the results...
Most people seem to prefer keeping their knives and forks together, rather than splitting them with the spoons. Those that do prefer FSK due to table setup, as far as I can tell.
The burning argument over whether forks should go left of the knives or vice versa appears split down the middle, with only a small fraction preferring forks on the left. This surprised me greatly, as other than Sharlos' left handed revelation, all I have to go on is pikacheek's "it flows better" explanation. I'll chalk that up to 'ascetic value'.
2/3rds of respondents place their forks in the middle of the drawer. The largest reason for not doing this is fear of spork reproduction.

We have a number of people who pile their cutlery together and with all likelihood consume their meals in a savage and disorganised manner.
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Re: Important Issues: Cutlery Drawer

Postby solitarysock » Sun Feb 15, 2009 8:23 pm UTC

Hm, I guess that depends on where I am...

here (but I will leave in some days): spoon fork... no, wait... *goes looking*, actually it's fork spoon fork knife (apparently there are two different kinds of forks?), and it's incredibly confusing... But as it's my landlady's kitchen, I can't go around changing it...

At my parent's house, forks and knives go in the same place and the spoons are to their right, teaspoons and small forks together at the bottom, and that's what I'm used to.

Where I usually live, I have flatmates and the cutlery is usually hidden away in the pile of unwashed dishes. Well, no, but their places change regularly, apparently everyone has a different opinion on where stuff should go. Actually, that's an interesting question that I should maybe ask one day...


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