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Re: Avatars and Perception

Postby benjhuey » Sun Mar 30, 2008 6:03 pm UTC

I don't treat people here differently based on sex, largely because I often don't remember who is male and who is female.

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Re: Avatars and Perception

Postby Pandercolour » Sun Mar 30, 2008 6:08 pm UTC

Azrael001 wrote:Don't you treat people differently based on sex? I think that it is difficult to find anyone who could honestly answer no to that. It is mainly a curiosity thing I think, though if you pay attention, it becomes obvious after a short amount of time.

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Re: Avatars and Perception

Postby Azrael001 » Sun Mar 30, 2008 6:17 pm UTC

What I mean is that it isn't wrong to treat people differently based on gender, so long as you don't treat them worse.
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Re: Avatars and Perception

Postby Pandercolour » Sun Mar 30, 2008 6:23 pm UTC

Actually it IS. When you treat people differently on insignificant differences like sex, you are an enemy of equality.

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Re: Avatars and Perception

Postby Zak » Sun Mar 30, 2008 6:23 pm UTC

HARRISON BERGERON!!

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Re: Avatars and Perception

Postby IronyandParadox » Sun Mar 30, 2008 7:11 pm UTC

Yeah, but do most people try to figure out someone's gender based on his or her avatar/nick/sig etc? I know I do, and I like to think that I don't treat people differently based on it. I know that maybe subconsciously I do, but isn't that true about any sort of deliberately non-discriminating behavior?
Mostly, figuring out a person's gender is a sort of game or puzzle. I'm just curious...
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Re: Avatars and Perception

Postby Mr. Beck » Sun Mar 30, 2008 7:53 pm UTC

I try very hard not to treat people differently due to gender, but I do find some stuff slip in. Not any inequality, mind you, but difference. Mostly it's curiosity Many people's genders have been revealed to me in the "Love, Sex, and Relationships" subforum.

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Re: Avatars and Perception

Postby notzeb » Sun Mar 30, 2008 8:35 pm UTC

The main problem is whether to refer to them as "he" or "she". I don't have to constantly write out "Number3Pencil" if I know Number3Pencil's gender.

Personally, I wish it wasn't considered sexist to refer to people of unspecified gender as "he"...
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Re: Avatars and Perception

Postby cephalopod9 » Sun Mar 30, 2008 8:44 pm UTC

I'm pretty terrible at keeping track of things, but a significant emotional reaction to one's posts will usually associate with the general shape and color scheme of the picture next to it.
That and writing in second persone, it's usually not to hard to avoid gender specific pronouns.

Mine's a self portrait... I thought it was fairly girly, but maybe not so much.
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Re: Avatars and Perception

Postby Mr. Beck » Mon Mar 31, 2008 3:26 am UTC

notzeb wrote:The main problem is whether to refer to them as "he" or "she".

Spivak Pronouns. I don't use them myself, but it's good to know such things exist.

cephalopod9 wrote:Mine's a self portrait... I thought it was fairly girly, but maybe not so much.

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Re: Avatars and Perception

Postby Zak » Mon Mar 31, 2008 3:28 am UTC

I like using "xe" for gender neutral pronouns.

... Too bad nobody else does :(
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Re: Avatars and Perception

Postby benjhuey » Mon Mar 31, 2008 3:36 am UTC

Singular "They" FTW!
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Re: Avatars and Perception

Postby Zak » Mon Mar 31, 2008 3:37 am UTC

Thats what XE said!
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Re: Avatars and Perception

Postby Seven » Mon Mar 31, 2008 3:39 am UTC

MEOW?

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Re: Avatars and Perception

Postby tryptanymph » Mon Mar 31, 2008 3:41 am UTC

MOO?
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Re: Avatars and Perception

Postby benjhuey » Mon Mar 31, 2008 3:43 am UTC

What?
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Re: Avatars and Perception

Postby Zak » Mon Mar 31, 2008 3:43 am UTC

LOUD NOISES!
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Re: Avatars and Perception

Postby benjhuey » Mon Mar 31, 2008 3:45 am UTC

I love lamp...
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Re: Avatars and Perception

Postby tryptanymph » Mon Mar 31, 2008 3:45 am UTC

Anchorman reference FTW!

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Re: Avatars and Perception

Postby cephalopod9 » Mon Mar 31, 2008 6:07 am UTC

Mr. Beck wrote:
cephalopod9 wrote:Mine's a self portrait... I thought it was fairly girly, but maybe not so much.

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Re: Avatars and Perception

Postby notzeb » Mon Mar 31, 2008 6:50 am UTC

Singular they sucks... I don't care how long it's been in use, it disgusts me. Spivak pronouns would be neat if they had a hope of being widely accepted (there are only two one letter words in the English language, and that isn't going to change anytime soon). And 'X's at the beginning of English words are never going to catch on.

How about I just refer to everyone offended by generic he as "it"?
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Re: Avatars and Perception

Postby mazzilliu » Mon Mar 31, 2008 8:34 am UTC

i picked my avatar because it was a funny clashing of themes. am i a pirate? a rastafarian? a businessman? and i have an idea!
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Re: Avatars and Perception

Postby NMcCoy » Mon Mar 31, 2008 6:51 pm UTC

I must admit, the thought that recently ran through my head when I noticed was "Oh, sleepygamer has a new avatar. Excited about having two guitars? Still looks like a girl though." Sorry.
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Re: Avatars and Perception

Postby Robin S » Mon Mar 31, 2008 7:08 pm UTC

Pandercolour wrote:Actually it IS. When you treat people differently on insignificant differences like sex, you are an enemy of equality.
I think this is an overgeneralization. Clearly there are many ways in which treating men and women differently are bad, but that does not mean that acting differently toward the two is automatically a bad thing regardless of the details of the differences in your actions? For example, is showing a sexual preference for one gender being "an enemy of equality"?
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Re: Avatars and Perception

Postby ishikiri » Mon Mar 31, 2008 8:18 pm UTC

I also go by avatars and rarely names, except for a few where if I saw their avatar I could tell you their name - like Belial, Yellie and a couple of others. I'm the same in real life, I don't remember names at all (It can get embarassing asking someones name 5 minutes after they told you it) but I will remember everything a person tells me. I have little 'files' on everyone I know.

My avatar comes from my fondness of Lolcats and cute overload. I really love my sig as well, since I usually really hate sigs.
I don't know if this makes me seem masculine or feminine though. Thoughts?

I am considering changing the avatar to a face pic with me in my Bowler Hat and RayBan Aviators. Can you change your username? I wouldn't mind changing it to my actual name (Ben). Regardless I'm content for now.

I can never tell how I "come across" when I post as well.
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Re: Avatars and Perception

Postby Cheese » Mon Mar 31, 2008 9:26 pm UTC

All I can glean from your sig is that you like Calvin and Hobbes, like any self-respecting human should.
I'm the same way with names and faces - you're lucky if I recognise your name if I've only met you recently, but if I see you I'll know exactly who you are. With avatars/names, I can usually remember the avatar's owner if I try, but it's much easier to remember them as the picture (especially as that's the first thing I see about their posts).
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Re: Avatars and Perception

Postby Izawwlgood » Mon Mar 31, 2008 10:25 pm UTC

Not that this is the relevant place for it, but:
Spivak pronouns seem stupid to me. That is all.
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Am I crazy? OR How do you imagine others on the fora?

Postby scikidus » Wed Jan 06, 2010 12:52 pm UTC

So I've noticed that I seem to somehow develop mental images of different xkcdians based on terrible indicators, such as avatars and usernames.

Does anyone else do this? It's kinda hard to explain, but I sort of connect the mood of the avatar with the current mood of the person, and then read that mood into the person's post.

So does anyone else do this? On a further note, does anyone else try to imagine what other xkcdians are like IRL?

EDIT: How do you imagine others on the fora?
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Re: Am I crazy or do others do this?

Postby Adacore » Wed Jan 06, 2010 12:57 pm UTC

I definitely do this at all fora I visit. In some cases it's justified, I think - people who use scantily clad models as their avatar (I'm not talking xkcd here, just in general) tend to be hormonal pubescent morons. But yeah, lots of the time I make completely erroneous assumptions about people based purely upon their avatar, and I know people do the same about me (or did, at least, back when I had a working avatar).

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Re: Am I crazy or do others do this?

Postby Zohar » Wed Jan 06, 2010 1:34 pm UTC

Of course I do this. All the time! I imagine people's voices sometimes, as well. Avatars are poor indicators, but very easy to get used to. Ever since the avatarmy and the rest of the avatar games, I've tried to concentrate more on remembering the posts associated with specific usernames. I'm not very good at it.
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Re: Am I crazy or do others do this?

Postby Decker » Wed Jan 06, 2010 1:54 pm UTC

Ah. Now I'm wondering how people imagine me.
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Re: Am I crazy or do others do this?

Postby JGefell » Wed Jan 06, 2010 2:11 pm UTC

I tend to picture everybody as being ideal at first. Fit, attractive, and well to do, until they prove me wrong. Saying dumb things, using horrendous grammar and poor tact deform my mental image of you. I also assume everybody is a single male 18-24 unless they say otherwise. I know that this isn't the category most users fall into, but I still do it.

I do this for books as well, every home is one I've been to, every person gets a look as soon as they have a name and it doesn't change regardless of the description the author gives.
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Re: Am I crazy or do others do this?

Postby Briareos » Wed Jan 06, 2010 2:39 pm UTC

Decker wrote:Ah. Now I'm wondering how people imagine me.
Per your avatar, I imagine you as Spider Jerusalem if he were turned into a bunny.

EDIT: this should be a general thread for "How do you imagine others on the fora?"
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Re: Am I crazy or do others do this?

Postby thicknavyrain » Wed Jan 06, 2010 4:27 pm UTC

Zohar wrote:Of course I do this. All the time! I imagine people's voices sometimes, as well. Avatars are poor indicators, but very easy to get used to. Ever since the avatarmy and the rest of the avatar games, I've tried to concentrate more on remembering the posts associated with specific usernames. I'm not very good at it.


Because I've heard your voice, I frequently hear your posts in your voice, it's an awesome voice. Also, yes, I totally use avatars as mental interpretations of XKCDians, For the longest time, I imagined Belial and Matthew from Sandman looking and speaking the same way I imagined he would. Also, I NEVER hear American accents in my head when reading, only British ones.
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Re: Am I crazy or do others do this?

Postby Cammy » Wed Jan 06, 2010 6:19 pm UTC

Yes. I've been at other fora where avatar's change frequently and I often remember most of them. Each one adds something on to my impression of the person.

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Re: Am I crazy or do others do this?

Postby Decker » Wed Jan 06, 2010 6:34 pm UTC

Briareos wrote:
Decker wrote:Ah. Now I'm wondering how people imagine me.
Per your avatar, I imagine you as Spider Jerusalem if he were turned into a bunny.

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Re: Am I crazy or do others do this?

Postby Izawwlgood » Wed Jan 06, 2010 7:02 pm UTC

Actually Decker, for some reason I associate your handle with a William Gibson protagonist (think Case).

A number of people have posted photographs of themselves at various places on the fora, so that's how I see them. Although, some of the images they posted stand out more than others; gms for example, is a blended image of his muttonchops grinning as his fist slams into my face (now with cufflinks!).

Other times it's snippets of what people have said that sticks out; Dream mentioned injuring his arm somehow, sometime, so I see him in a sling.
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Re: Am I crazy or do others do this?

Postby Silvyr » Wed Jan 06, 2010 9:34 pm UTC

JGefell wrote:I tend to picture everybody as being ideal at first. Fit, attractive, and well to do, until they prove me wrong. Saying dumb things, using horrendous grammar and poor tact deform my mental image of you. I also assume everybody is a single male 18-24 unless they say otherwise. I know that this isn't the category most users fall into, but I still do it.
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Re: Am I crazy or do others do this?

Postby Sir_Elderberry » Thu Jan 07, 2010 12:38 am UTC

I use avatars, but I don't really do voices I guess, beyond my normal reading-in-my-head voice.

Someone once said in the confessional thread that they read my voice as Arcturus Mengsk, which is alright because he has a cool voice.
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Re: Am I crazy or do others do this?

Postby podbaydoor » Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:35 am UTC

I've posted my facerity in the forums, but my avatar has always been strawberries in some form. I figure at least most people would remember the young Asian lady, nerds being what they are. Is this true or do I actually come off as a bunch of strawberries?
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