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I listen to music (mostly) for...

Lyrics / Ideas
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Instruments / Sounds
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I listen to music for...

Postby Brian » Sat May 26, 2007 1:35 am UTC

I've seen other musical threads roaming around the forum, but I'm curious as to why different people listen to music. I could clutter the poll up with quite a few different options, but it all boils down to two.

Personally, I'm a big fan of exceptional use of the English language. Especially when used to convey unique and deep ideas. Being a musician (set drummer), I also enjoy the more technical side of it, but to a secondary degree.

With your reply, post what you voted and your 3-5 favorite artists.


Me?
Lyrics / Ideas
1. John Mayer (Trio, solo)
2. Matthew Thiessen (Relient K, solo)
3. Blink 182 (Boxcar Racer, +44, A&A)
4. Dave Matthews (Band)
5. AFI

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Postby Peshmerga » Sat May 26, 2007 1:41 am UTC

I <3 vocals.
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Postby Berge » Sat May 26, 2007 1:45 am UTC

It varies for me. Some songs its definitely for the vocals, like most of Barenaked Ladies' stuff. But others its definitely the sounds...like Blue Man Group.

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Postby warriorness » Sat May 26, 2007 1:45 am UTC

Call me crazy, but I'm an instrumental-type person. Classical constitutes the biggest part of my music collection, and most of the rest of it still doesn't have vocals. I dunno why I'm that way; I just prefer no vocals.
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Postby Vaniver » Sat May 26, 2007 1:46 am UTC

While I have a healthy mixture of both, if there are vocals, they have to be good. I can live with bad instrumentals.
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Postby Thunderbird4! » Sat May 26, 2007 1:47 am UTC

I'm definately a lyrics guy.

1. BFF (Ben Folds Five)
2. Styx
3. Rush (Especially that song that goes "If we burn our wings flying to close to the sun, we will pay the price but we will not count the cost..." can't think of the name)
4. Can't think of the band but the song is Way of the World
5. John Soussan (Elderberry Trees)
6. Fuel (especially Bad Day, I feel like that a lot)
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Postby EradicateIV » Sat May 26, 2007 1:47 am UTC

This was so hard to choose, but I eventaully picked sounds. I realize that even though vocals are often time the lead of the song (yay for singing and growls), but the real enjoyment comes from the beat and flow. Breakdowns and energy in music make me want to scream.

Edit: Oh, and my favorite artists (which is incredibly difficult again):

I'd say John Mayer, Burzum, Circle of Dead Children, Tool, Converge, Reggie and The Full Effect, Wu-Tang Clan (lawls), and Dillinger Escape Plan.

I could just keep naming and those are in particular order.
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Postby davef » Sat May 26, 2007 1:49 am UTC

Melody, harmony, arrangements. I pay very little attention to lyrics.

Some exceptions:

Tom Waits
Nina Simone
Paul Simon,

but I listen to a lot of instrumental music, too -

Bill Frisell
Big Band music from the 40s/50s/60s
Bobby McFerrin
Oscar Peterson.

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Postby Drake Zure » Sat May 26, 2007 1:54 am UTC

i like to know the lyrics, but it's the sound that makes me listen.

where do i fit in?
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Postby Vaniver » Sat May 26, 2007 1:55 am UTC

i like to know the lyrics, but it's the sound that makes me listen.

where do i fit in?
Nowhere, didn't high school teach you anything? :P
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Postby niteice » Sat May 26, 2007 1:56 am UTC

The overall sound, which is generally defined by instruments, but in the case of some bands (SoaD, Bosstones) the vocals are pretty much half the battle.

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Postby Drake Zure » Sat May 26, 2007 1:58 am UTC

Vaniver wrote:
i like to know the lyrics, but it's the sound that makes me listen.

where do i fit in?
Nowhere, didn't high school teach you anything? :P
not yet, but i've still got a year for that lesson to sink in :P
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Postby Castaway » Sat May 26, 2007 2:07 am UTC

I say it needs to be a balence. I can't listen to rap because it has no quality instrumentals (imo). However, I also hate a lot of totally-instrumental songs because they've got nothing behind them.

My favorite bands:
Flogging Molly
MSI
Rolling Stones
Led Zeppelin
The Clash
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Postby kira » Sat May 26, 2007 2:11 am UTC

I love really great and meaningful lyrics (I think Conor Oberst from Bright Eyes does a good job with this on some songs) and I also love irreverent lyrics (like the aforementioned Barenaked Ladies and the Monkees <3 <3 <3).

However, the lyrics can be the dumbest and most obnoxious in the world as long as the song has a good beat (all of my guilty pleasure type songs -- Britney Spears, Avril Lavigne, one song from ICP, etc) so I went with the sound part.

That said, my top five are currently:
1) Dar Williams
2) The Ditty Bops
3) Jenny Lewis and the Watson Twins
4) Ted Leo and the Pharmacists
5) The Eels

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Postby EvanED » Sat May 26, 2007 2:15 am UTC

For most music, sounds is the clear winner. 3/4 of the time I can't discern most of the words people are saying anyway unless I have a lyric sheet or am actually paying fairly close attention to the music. (In other words, it just can't be sitting there in the background. I *will* notice sweet sounds if they are in the background though.) It's possible this comes from the fact that for a long time I really only listened to classical or other orchestral music (movie scores mostly).

The main exception to this is songs that are meant to be humorous. You lose most of the benefit of listening to, say, Weird Al if you don't pay attention to the words.

As for artists, no Pink Floyd fans? Sheesh. ;-)

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Postby Drake Zure » Sat May 26, 2007 2:34 am UTC

for me, it's the Beatles, Moody Blues, Newsboys, Petra, and Simon and Garfunkel.
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Postby Castaway » Sat May 26, 2007 2:40 am UTC

It would be funny if someone were like "i litsen 2 music so ppl no im kewl"
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Postby Brian » Sat May 26, 2007 2:46 am UTC

Castaway wrote:It would be funny if someone were like "i litsen 2 music so ppl no im kewl"
Only at intersections.

I'm kidding, of course... :shock:

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Postby MFHodge » Sat May 26, 2007 2:50 am UTC

Great lyrics can make a medium song good.
Great music can make medium lyrics sound better.

It is all about when everything comes together. If I like a song then I listen carefully to the lyrics and they tend to make it or break it.

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Postby Castaway » Sat May 26, 2007 3:06 am UTC

Yeah, i'm going to go out on a limb and say it's a yin/yang kind of thing. You can't have one without the other.
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Postby Twasbrillig » Sat May 26, 2007 3:11 am UTC

Classical music ftw.
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Postby Sandry » Sat May 26, 2007 3:35 am UTC

I listen to different music for different reasons.

I'm really partial to things in triple meters or uneven meters, and really, really partial to minor. Because of that, I listen to stuff like Cirque du Soleil, Garmarna and Tool.

I also really enjoy good lyrics that aren't trite and overchurned, so I listen to Assemblage 23, Thea Gilmore and Akhenaton.

I absolutely adore pointlessly dancing around the apartment, my room, the streets, and pretty much anything else, so I listen to very beat-driven music, like VNV Nation, Astral Projection and Apoptygma Berzerk.

I couldn't live without music to sing along to, so I listen to Tori Amos, Nightwish and October Project.

I am completely out of my flipping mind, so I really enjoy listening to modern classical, like Philip Glass, Steve Reich and John Adams. (There was this one day at uni after a really stressful night in pit orchestra for Die Fledermaus when I shut my dorm room door and put on Steve Reich's Piano Phase on repeat for about an hour and a half... eventually people started trying to bang down my door in order to kill me. Oops.)

And that's leaving out half the list, still. I'm a little messed in the head, confidentially.
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Postby apricity » Sat May 26, 2007 4:08 am UTC

I couldn't vote. On one hand, I never listen to instrumental music (exception: Explosions in the Sky) so I can't say it's instrumental that I like. And I do love being able to sing along.

But I'm a sucker for piano and guitar, and if the lyrics suck but it's a great piano piece I still love it.

But then I also love songs that have crappy lyrics and crappy instrumentals, as long as I like the vocals.

Honestly, I think it's just the overall sound that I like, and I especially like when the sound is dynamic. That's why I need the vocals, to break up the instrumental, but I love the simple guitar rifts or drifting piano in the background.

My favorites for vocals/lyrics: Clay Aiken, Brand New, Say Anything, Eminem, Kelly Clarkson
My favorites for instrumental: Ben Folds, Billy Joel, Dispatch, A Perfect Circle, Counting Crows
My favorites overall: Something Corporate, Guster, White Stripes, Dashboard Confessional, OK Go, Death Cab for Cutie
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Postby Nyarlathotep » Sat May 26, 2007 4:15 am UTC

Both?

I suppose more for the instrumentals, since those can give me ideas, but I prefer a little of both.
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Postby Peshmerga » Sat May 26, 2007 5:10 am UTC

For example, The Wallflowers - One Headlight is a perfect example of what I consider great music. I can listen to it for hours on end.
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Postby __Kit » Sat May 26, 2007 5:23 am UTC

Can't I be both? I listen for both.
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Postby Lani » Sat May 26, 2007 5:42 am UTC

Sandry wrote:October Project


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You've heard of them?!

You're the first person I've ever met who has. That's awesome. I got their CDs in high school and listened to them endlessly. I don't listen to them very much now, but if I need a good song to sing along to, I always go there. That's crazy.

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I listen primarily for sound, I think - appreciating the way a song for qualities other than lyrics allows for greater appreciation of music from anywhere in the world, anywhere in time.

And curse you for making me choose artists. I'm going to give a few artists that I think compliment each other well or are of the same genre as examples of music I like:

- Led Zeppelin, Stone Temple Pilots (grittiness)
- Henryk Gorecki, Debussy, Faure, Satie, Beethoven (<3 classical)
- Yann Tiersen (Amelie soundtrack)
- Count Basie, Asylum Street Spankers, Aretha Franklin, Lou Rawls, John Lee Hooker (stuff that makes me want to dance)
- DeVotchKa, Jeff Buckley, Nick Drake (kinda sorta folky/rocky)
- Gotan Project, Thievery Corporation (passionate vernacular music with a beat)
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Postby miles01110 » Sat May 26, 2007 6:28 am UTC

The best part about classical music is that each time you listen to a piece you can hear something different.

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Postby Brian » Sat May 26, 2007 8:14 am UTC

miles01110 wrote:The best part about classical music is that each time you listen to a piece you can hear something different.

I've thought that same thing many times while listening to a Red Hot Chili Peppers song.

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Postby Andrew » Sat May 26, 2007 8:19 am UTC

I like The Divine Comedy, and what part of it I listen for depends on what mood I'm in and what equipment it's playing on (or live). Sometimes I'll just listen to the words, because some of them are excellent. (He sometimes borrows from Wordsworth, and it's not always immediately clear when this is.) Sometimes, mood and speakers permitting, I'll mentally tune out the words and just listen to the tune, or tunes, playing behind them. Other times I'll just sit back and marvel at the technical complexity of the music and wonder how on Earth it was ever put together.

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Postby Rockapotamus » Sat May 26, 2007 8:49 am UTC

This is a tough decision, but I think I'll go with the instrumental.
I like a lot of classical pieces and film scores, and generally those don't have words. For some reason, I just really like instrumental songs (YYZ by Rush, most everything by Buckethead). However, I also like it when a song is really well written lyric-wise (like Modest Mouse for example). And then there are some bands where I go for the whole package (Mindless Self Indulgence for example).

Here be my 5 flavorite bands:
1. Red Hot Chili Peppers (Flea's bass playing is M-AZING!)
2. Modest Mouse (Clever lyrics and a solid sound.)
3. MSI (Punk rock/techno/hip-hop goodness with the most offensive lyrics ever.)
4. Tool (Superb song writing, and the drummer is phenomenal.)
5. Ween (Um... I don't really know how to explain Ween. :P)
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Postby chilibaka » Sat May 26, 2007 8:53 am UTC

I usually listen for overall sound, how different instruments are blended together to create the feel and mood of the song. When listening to music I see human voice as an instrument too. For example, when listening to Manu Chao I have no idea what he is singing because I can't speak Spanish or French but the way he is singing and the context with other instruments creates an overall mood for the song and lets me figure out what the song (might be) about.

Currently, I'm listening to:

Rabih Abou-Khalil
Glen Velez
Jonas Hellborg
Trio Globo
Roberta Flack

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Postby Toeofdoom » Sat May 26, 2007 8:54 am UTC

I listen mostly for the music, but I like the lyrics of most songs I listen to and some songs are there just for the lyrics.
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Postby Gelsamel » Sat May 26, 2007 9:50 am UTC

Both.


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Postby Ren » Sat May 26, 2007 10:44 am UTC

Both. Especially in combo!

Lyrics/vocals: Paul Simon, Tom Waits, Regina Spektor

Instruments/the music: Shostakovich, Tallis, Chopin, Pat Methany, Bela Fleck

Both: Andrew Bird, Final Fantasy, the Postal Service
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Postby Jauss » Sat May 26, 2007 10:48 am UTC

Man, I so can't choose one.

There are songs I love primarily for the lyrics and songs I love primarily for the sound, but for most songs I usually end up loving both. And then there's vocals, which can kinda go in either/both categories.

Here's a short list on what I focus on in the continuum of mainly lyrics/vocals to very much everything to mainly music/vocals:

A) Ani DiFranco, Bright Eyes, Mountain Goats
B) Elliott Smith, Now It's Overhead, Sufjan Stevens
C) Death Cab for Cutie, Decemberists, Weezer
D) Brand New, Thursday, AFI, Gym Class Heroes, Modest Mouse, Jimmy Eat World, Arcade Fire
E) The Cure, Placebo, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Coheed and Cambria
F) The Faint, At The Drive-In, Kings of Leon, Radiohead
G) Menomena, The Velvet Teen, Led Zeppelin, Sigur Rós.
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Postby jestingrabbit » Sat May 26, 2007 10:50 am UTC

What if I listen for emotional impact and to dance to? what then, huh? huh?

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Re: I listen to music for...

Postby peter » Sat May 26, 2007 1:10 pm UTC

Brian wrote:Me?
Lyrics / Ideas
1. John Mayer (Trio, solo)
2. Matthew Thiessen (Relient K, solo)
3. Blink 182 (Boxcar Racer, +44, A&A)
4. Dave Matthews (Band)
5. AFI

Does blink-182 really fall under lyrics?

blink 182 wrote:Unless your Dad will suck me off
I'll never talk to you again.
Unless your mom will touch my cock
I'll never talk to you again.
Ejaculate into a sock
I'll never talk to you again
I'll never talk to you again


Lyrics / Ideas
My top 3:

Maroon 5 (It Won't Be Soon Before Long is amazing)
Red Hot Chili Peppers
Rise Against (especially "Ready to Fall")

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Postby Nonmus » Sat May 26, 2007 1:18 pm UTC

I'm a fan of the instuments/sounds. I can enjoy a song with stupid lyrics or bad vocals enough if it still has a nice melody, but the best lyrics in the world can't save a bad song. There are also plenty of normal songs that I think I would like more if they were instrumental.

Lyrics/vocals: Relient K, MxPx, The Fray

Instruments: Ratatat, Ryu*

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Postby Torn Apart By Dingos » Sat May 26, 2007 1:30 pm UTC

Instruments/sounds, but it's important that vocals are there. I see vocals as an instrument, and I stopped caring about lyrics many years ago.

edit: Oh, supposed to say what I listen to. I listen to grindcore, goregrind, death, screamo and stuff. Favorite band's Agoraphobic Nosebleed.


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